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convert old bike to disc brake
thank you for visiting on my video and my channel. this time i try to convert rims brake to disc brake on my old bike. hope you will entertained with my video. please comment advice and critics.
#bike #bicycle #discbrake
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@johnthompson9602
@johnthompson9602 4 года назад
You converted a safe bike into an unsafe bike. The frame and fork pipes you soldered your caliper supports on, were NOT designed to handle the force the disc calipers will put on them ! It's pure physics. The braking torque applied on the wheel (when you brake) is about the same (disc brakes don't stop the bike faster than new & well tuned rim brakes). Torque = Force x (distance from the center of the wheel). But the disc brake pads apply the force WAY closer to the center of the wheel (on the small diameter disc), than rim brakes (on the big diameter rim). So at the same torque, the force applied by a disc brake pad on the frame, must be WAY higher than the force applied by a rim brake on the frame. Also multiply that big force by two, because a disc brake applies the force only on one side of the frame (a rim brake has brake pads on both sides of the wheel, so the braking force will be applied on both frame bars on both sides of the wheel). The same thing for the front brake. A fork failing while hard braking is really dangerous. My advice: If you can, revert quickly to rim brakes. If you can't, cut that bike in pieces, and throw it in garbage. Don't let your kid ride it. It's dangerous. I like how you sing, and how you love your kid, that's why I spent my time to write all this.
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
you are great explain in detail. thanks for advice
@jamesellis5549
@jamesellis5549 4 года назад
I could see that for forks but there is no difference in factory mounts for rear disc and his ,except that he arc welded instead of tig or mig.
@carlinanderson2605
@carlinanderson2605 4 года назад
@@jamesellis5549 it's not the welds that are not safe my dude. It's that the bike itself was never designed for the disks in the first place, like the fork legs themselves. What happens when a modification like this is done is that inevitably the fork will bend of break (same with the rear), and more than likely fuck up the user. It's totally possible it will be fine, but I wouldnt risk my life just because someone told me disks are somehow better on a bike like this than v brakes.
@chucknoob7041
@chucknoob7041 4 года назад
Carlin Anderson - I’m thinking about the leverage points and I think the three points to consider are: tire to ground, hub center, v-brake mounting point or fork/frame point. Seems that the forces will end up being distributed close to the same. With the kids weight and braking power, no problem.
@johnthompson9602
@johnthompson9602 4 года назад
@@chucknoob7041 you must be American. Only Americans think they are smart, when they have ABSOLUTELY no idea what they are talking about. Like Trump farting ideas about how to cure covid-19. Mankind laughs at you man. Those points you mention don't matter at all. The only thing who matters is the force applied on the fork (at front) and frame (at rear) at the caliper attachment points. I think your brain will finally start getting it, when you will see the following fork failure, caused by disc brakes installed on a fork not designed to survive the high forces disc brakes put on it - to get the same braking torque performance the old v-brakes were getting anyway ... since ages ago. This is the link: cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2010/10/braking-induced-fork-failure.html
@ginginthing
@ginginthing 3 года назад
I'm a retired aerospace stress analyst that analyzed every type of welded tube structure on aircraft. I also am a licenced faa certified airframe mechanic. Just by observation of this welded bracket conversion, I'd say it is a well done installation and the loads that are going into the brackets by the calipers during stops are directly into the centerline if the tubing with no offset bending moments. Therefore the backup structural tubes are more than adequate to react any braking loads over the 4" of distributed bracket loads. Since the rear brakes react about 30/49% of the entire required braking force, the bending load into the rear down tube at the rear bracket attach location would be less than 200 pounds by rough calculation distributed over the 4" bracket. Steel bike frames are typically made from chrome moly steel which have about 125 ksi FTU and about 100 ksi outside of the HAZ of a weld when annealed. The Fty an = about 60 ksi. The bending moment from worse case 300 lb at this location in the tube with fixed ends would be PL/12 = 300x 15"/12 = 375 in-lb. Stress = mc/I, where I for 1/2" tube with .050 wall = about 0.002 in to the forth. So stress= 375 x .25 / I.002 = 46,875 psi. Factor of safety = 60/47-1 = +0.28. yield. This conversion is good. The front forks have almost twice the bending inertia with 3 times the load of the rear bracket. Therefore good by inspection. This is your Lockheed style stress calculation factor of safety. So please don't say this is an unsafe conversion. If u do, plz show your calculations that prove other wise.
@fendipakeen7295
@fendipakeen7295 3 года назад
Great trusted calculation sir👍have done this to my old steel roadbike too, everything work good. And i still dont find any problem in my fork. (1 years used)
@ginginthing
@ginginthing 3 года назад
@@fendipakeen7295 Only thing you might want to consider is when you arc weld two pieces of steel together like you did with the bracket and the bike frame and the front fork, is to heat that weld area with a touch to about 800 degrees (dark orange glow) and let it air cool. The arc welding (at the weld and slightly outside of the weld ) has hydrogen embrittlement and is prone to cracking When the weld area is heated, it relieves this brittle area and makes the metal softer in that area less likely to crack at or near the weld. It's called metal annealing. It is much safer to gas weld steel tubing and brackets to it because the method incorporates annealing just from the heat of the weld.
@bobjonathon2669
@bobjonathon2669 3 года назад
Hate people like this like actually shut up man so many "experts" in the comments
@melcoeb
@melcoeb 3 года назад
damn. nice reply.
@Mabaz
@Mabaz 3 года назад
@@ginginthing Hello, if I might ask you a question. I'm considering learning to weld in order to start building steel frames for bicycles. I'm at the first stages where I'm doing research and found that vintage steel frames were welded together with brazing and flux. I searched around and found that it's a very messy process, and liked the cleaner aspect of TIG welding. So my question is, in your opinion, and as a professional who understands this kind of thing, which is the best method to ensure my frames will have the best quality welds? TIG, Brazing, or another one I haven't mentioned? Thank you in advance.
@ASHMAN750
@ASHMAN750 4 года назад
The song at the end felt kinda like the end of the world song of the people that's leftover and just happy to be alive and thankful
@1trucxhondamov589
@1trucxhondamov589 3 года назад
What I love about this post is the practical simplicity of it! Here I am, seeking to rent time on a cnc machine, making out measurements on a computer and considering buying engineering tools, all because *I love my bike* and I thought the switching to disc brake requirements was totally both unfair and unnecessary to a *loyal and dear old friend/my bike* ! Willing to spend $3000 on my ❤ than $1000 for a new one! 😀
@antokoer7822
@antokoer7822 4 года назад
Marahi kepingin . . aku .isih duwe frame Alpine STAR edisi tahun 1990 . . Kesuwun MasBro , sampeyan kreatip tenan
@picias0000
@picias0000 4 года назад
Magnífico trabajo. Eres un artista. Yo para dejar el trabajo bien fino aseguraría la camisa del freno delantero a la horquilla y quedaría mejor aún.
@chanthibcth9990
@chanthibcth9990 3 года назад
I pray who ever reads this becomes successful in life...
@rashmipal9454
@rashmipal9454 3 года назад
But why
@allex7615
@allex7615 3 года назад
Stfu
@servana2901
@servana2901 3 года назад
Thank you
@theejoeylee
@theejoeylee 2 года назад
Thank you. Touche
@glemarquider7544
@glemarquider7544 2 года назад
I love you
@carlodominiclu2609
@carlodominiclu2609 4 года назад
Nice procedure.... really liked this and you inspired me to do this on my old Trek,
@garbizzi6868
@garbizzi6868 4 года назад
Absolutely the best bicycle disc brake conversion video hands down .... Great job ! Ill be using the same exact technology for my motorized mountain bike ... Thanks
@dermomo3868
@dermomo3868 4 года назад
You should keep in mind though that a rim brake frame isnt designed for the forces disc brakes put through it. Especially on a motororized mtb the brake forces are pretty high. You might bend your seatstay and/or fork leg.
@SomeAngryGuy1997
@SomeAngryGuy1997 3 года назад
@@dermomo3868 The bending seatstay issue could be avoided by welding an extra support between the seatstay and chainstay. The metal he welded to the frame also seems too thin to fully withstand the stress from braking.
@jangidik6098
@jangidik6098 4 года назад
Mantap mantap mantap mas bro, jadi inspirasi buat saya nge restorasi sepeda federal jadul saya... Salam gowes dari Bandung mas bro....👍👍👍👍👍
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 4 года назад
Really enjoyed your video. Especially the part of you riding with your boy. And the music was great! Thanks for sharing
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
Thanks so much!
@ericgonzales854
@ericgonzales854 3 года назад
This is what I need to see today... very helpful and just grounded me. God bless you guys and Merry Christmas. Careful Lil Man😜
@corymatthewsno1
@corymatthewsno1 4 года назад
Super great thinking outside of the box! Much respect for finding a solution! Should clean metal before welding!
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
thanks for advice
@dastardlyman
@dastardlyman 4 года назад
amazing. subscribed. i have two bicycles that have been converted to ebikes - your video has answered my questions
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
Great to hear!
@b1gchr1s29
@b1gchr1s29 3 года назад
That welding on those mounts is the finest best ever welding ive seen, absolutely amazing, could hold ten ton of force no trouble at all
@renzoprias4157
@renzoprias4157 3 года назад
hahahaha
@williamaubuchon4739
@williamaubuchon4739 3 года назад
The material he used was like, 20 gauge thick and he welded with a stick welder. I think it will be just fine.
@b1gchr1s29
@b1gchr1s29 2 года назад
As someone who is qualified welder to 6gr standards im well aware 1 inch of weld will support 1 ton in weight if for one its good quality weld and not a load of snot and spatter clinging to a bicycle front fork tube no more than probably 2mm thick not designed to put up with braking forces, accident waiting to happen this pos bicycle
@johnbreza8968
@johnbreza8968 3 года назад
Cool - I need to put a front brake on a 1970's cruiser conversion to ebike and it only had 1 brake, this solves my problem. Nice production loved the chickens and the song at end.
@heriantomedan452
@heriantomedan452 4 года назад
Suwun tenan mas . . .wis entok elmu dikekke lagu maning . . uuenak tenan mas . . matur nuwun . . .siiip
@aliaulia3243
@aliaulia3243 4 года назад
Gara-gara sampean orang bule pada debat,keren modifnya om....
@1trucxhondamov589
@1trucxhondamov589 3 года назад
As far as any engineering dangers, I will simply weld a buttress from the chain stay to the set stay for *support* . Thanks, great video! 😀👍
@dimevans9543
@dimevans9543 4 года назад
Man! You are Great! Enjoy life. You deserve it. Regards from Greece.
@walasinternet
@walasinternet 2 года назад
your videos are great and gave me an idea for a new bike from the old frame. your ideas are cool.
@upward_onward
@upward_onward 3 года назад
Wow...Thank you so very much for this excellent conversion information. Indebted to you. I'm going to do the same.
@williammarshall4277
@williammarshall4277 3 года назад
This put a big smile on my face....well done.
@honingholes7026
@honingholes7026 4 месяца назад
I'm an Italian to English interpreter and I can tell you that those welds are OK, if they do happen to break during use the solution is easy, just weld them again.
@MrK67017
@MrK67017 4 года назад
At first the chickens were distracting but they grow on you . Very soothing song to wrap things up. Nice video.
@cameronalexander359
@cameronalexander359 3 года назад
Awesome job, dude. No more cooking your rims on long downhills or chewing out your expensive and inceasingly hard to replace caliper rims 👍
@hatbpto5180
@hatbpto5180 4 года назад
Thanks for this! Life is great, isn't it?
@vijayanchomatil8413
@vijayanchomatil8413 3 года назад
Outstanding job! I also changed my fork and hub and installed a disk brake. This is a great idea! I can solder, but I've never welded before.
@michaelmouse5210
@michaelmouse5210 2 месяца назад
It appears from the welding in this video that neither has the guy doing the conversion.
@vijayanchomatil8413
@vijayanchomatil8413 2 месяца назад
@@michaelmouse5210 But he did it and that makes all the difference.
@darwinjones924
@darwinjones924 3 года назад
Nice conversion, my frame is aluminum so I would wire weld (MIG) mine but the process is identical. I might give it a go. Thanks
@mwd21
@mwd21 4 года назад
Love the chickens squawking continuously in the background
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
thank you
@vijayanchomatil8413
@vijayanchomatil8413 3 года назад
Roosters
@tellocustomstellomacias395
@tellocustomstellomacias395 3 года назад
Que buena onda tus videos yo cuando hera niño mi papa me dio una vici igual a esa pero sin frenos de disco ovio jajaja y anduve igual que ese niño con una sonrisa de oreja a oreja muy buenos tus videos siga así 👌👏👏👏👏👍🙏 saludos y salud desde Tepic nayarit México
@ohgrijalva
@ohgrijalva Год назад
Excelente tutorial, rajin. Muchas gracias.
@angelcanetti8176
@angelcanetti8176 4 года назад
Good job makes your heart sing !!
@rorax42
@rorax42 3 года назад
Great video, and your work is excellent!
@zarkasizarkasi6162
@zarkasizarkasi6162 4 года назад
Padahal ono ragum, tapi ngebor e nganggo tang diidak, jos tenan😂
@vilgax55
@vilgax55 4 года назад
Best conversion video ever!
@santirtamartendano
@santirtamartendano 4 года назад
bangsaaat dancuuuuuuk !!! aku seneng video iki pooool!!!!!! Suara pitik dan closing pancen toooop!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@user-cd4kn7vg1l
@user-cd4kn7vg1l 4 года назад
very good job, well done. Hi from Belarus!!
@lancetah
@lancetah 4 года назад
Great build. You may use some cable ties to secure those loose wires. Nevertheless, good job. Mantap pak rajin 👍
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
Thanks for the tip
@jameslefleur1970
@jameslefleur1970 2 года назад
Nothing brings more satisfaction than giving new life to old things. Well done rajin!
@wilfredorobertohuamanafanc4876
Mis respetos maestro 😊👏👏 grasias por tus conocimientos
@Jonmc511
@Jonmc511 4 года назад
Haha! That's they way I've done my STEEL FRAME brake conversions! I used to use them eyelets and screwed them on the rear triangle. Works awesome too! 🤙🤙 Can't beat the $29.99 brake kit. I love them components. They are just as good as shimano..😊
@shahrilmohd7829
@shahrilmohd7829 2 года назад
Just by observing at the welded part , i barely consider the finishing quite impressive.. this man has proof he is competent n has completed his tasks very well... My thought maybe he was somekind like welder or foreman who experienced working offshore longtime ago...
@ECsponger2
@ECsponger2 4 года назад
I really enjoyed the song near the end. Very peaceful.
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
thank you @ocripcurrent
@johnq8758
@johnq8758 4 года назад
@@rajin99 more songs pls
@fauzianwararifin3824
@fauzianwararifin3824 4 года назад
Java language in this song. Fyi
@star27996
@star27996 4 года назад
Song : Tatu from didi kempot
@novantosagita8962
@novantosagita8962 4 года назад
love . song . java .
@isaakmartinez9784
@isaakmartinez9784 3 года назад
My respect for you my bro.. God blessed 🙏😉😉
@gaylorelchapo4750
@gaylorelchapo4750 4 года назад
I love this vieo. I'm in love withe the song at the end, it takes me to .. i dont where. But it's a good place !
@tjahjoprakoso1
@tjahjoprakoso1 4 года назад
@ indonesia
@novantosagita8962
@novantosagita8962 4 года назад
indonesia . java
@angelrojasaburto1739
@angelrojasaburto1739 Год назад
Me encanto ver el procedimiento del trabajo, y me gusto ver otra idea para mi bici por lo del cambio de velocidades ya que lo tengo con la rueda y no como la tuya, voy a ver si puedo hacerlo
@guillermolopez5261
@guillermolopez5261 4 года назад
me encanto el video... y mas aun el final con la musicaaa felizitaciones
@rifkiferliansyah8213
@rifkiferliansyah8213 4 года назад
Sing komen wong luar tok 👍👍👍😁😁😁 dasare jenius njenengan pak....
@tblue1904
@tblue1904 4 года назад
I remember the days when I used to ride a bike way bigger than my size , just like the kid at the end , those were good days
@gilboston20033
@gilboston20033 3 года назад
Me too, I had to go inside the frame to reach the pedals on my father's bike.
@robertkelly1590
@robertkelly1590 3 года назад
That ukulele playing was lit!
@salahapa8075
@salahapa8075 4 года назад
Konten yang mendunia kang.. Yg komen bule semua.. 👏👏👏👏👍👍👍
@gafxt4414
@gafxt4414 3 года назад
Q buen final!!!! !!! Saludos desde argentina!!
@paulosergiomacedo4114
@paulosergiomacedo4114 3 года назад
Tu és um GÊNIO .
@elhulero5851
@elhulero5851 4 года назад
😀😁😂 exelente trabajo amigo todo un artesano de las bicis
@HTibor
@HTibor 4 года назад
Simple but good work. And the singing is wonderful :))
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
thank you Tibor
@alexanderchang3707
@alexanderchang3707 4 года назад
Estaba buscando un video como este desde tiempo gracias
@tonyconnors1342
@tonyconnors1342 4 года назад
very impressive and looks great works perfect.
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
Thank you very much!
@siblack2336
@siblack2336 4 года назад
Ajiiiip...gowes ngga harus mahal ya om...yg penting bisa bikin kita sehat..
@donidone4759
@donidone4759 4 года назад
Apik mas garapan mu, mugo makin sukses mas 😆👍
@om.wepe_story
@om.wepe_story 4 года назад
Keren Om, bisa ngerjain sendiri 👍
@soesidpdp1900
@soesidpdp1900 2 года назад
Mantab,banyak pujian dr orang luar krn simple dan tepat guna.
@AK-um3us
@AK-um3us 3 года назад
Good! You are best mechanic, rider boy best, singer the best!
@NaufalYT
@NaufalYT 4 года назад
Mantaap bang, sangat bermanfaat.. Salam dari indonesia🇮🇩
@maximfadeev2012
@maximfadeev2012 4 года назад
Класс:))) малый на дискачах самый крутой на районе
@juanrendon998
@juanrendon998 4 года назад
buen trabajo si te quedo bien nomas que aplicando soldadura destiemplas el cuadro y lo haces fragil y se puede romper de ahi donde lo soldadte
@suradilikdi1915
@suradilikdi1915 4 года назад
apik tenan .....!!! sing mbarang ikut ngetop nih....
@h.j.channel51
@h.j.channel51 3 года назад
Keren om...yg komen banyak orang luar negri.....dan mereka terinspirasi dari orang indonesia....ga nyangka banget....
@espguitars2992
@espguitars2992 4 года назад
I really liked that part where the rooster said: errr er errr errrrrrrrr Good stuff very interesting 😂
@sidiqjamil4944
@sidiqjamil4944 4 года назад
Keren om, sangat kreatif dalam pengambilan video ada pengamen juga jd sangat menggambarkan susana desa yg ngangenin, salam dari Semarang om
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
terima kasih mas'e
@giovano2685
@giovano2685 4 года назад
Itu pake uk ban luar brp mas e kok kliatan besar ?
@veloatlas
@veloatlas 4 года назад
Cool, good job. I like it !
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
thank you
@madeincasa5347
@madeincasa5347 3 года назад
Saludos desde Ecuadoer!! work good!!
@MatthewBishopCounsellor
@MatthewBishopCounsellor 2 года назад
Fantastic job, mate.
@lennyaltamirano4637
@lennyaltamirano4637 3 года назад
Súper vídeo me encanto tu idea
@godfreytan1001
@godfreytan1001 3 года назад
Wah!! You are fantastic...👏👏. No Parktools here...o wait! maybe it was the welding equipment 😂😂
@elchaposexcitingadventures1674
@elchaposexcitingadventures1674 4 года назад
Best video ever. Very entertaining.
@x4mazing_
@x4mazing_ 3 года назад
Post more songs! That was awesome :)
@monkeyddrew6182
@monkeyddrew6182 3 года назад
Felicidades amigo buen video , saludos desde Perú🇵🇪
@1z4nagi67
@1z4nagi67 Год назад
What did you use for your fork? 31mm or the 22mm one
@tovaardhi2789
@tovaardhi2789 4 года назад
Chanel keren, sing komen wong luar kabeh😁👌🏻
@jamesrusselcaceres1810
@jamesrusselcaceres1810 4 года назад
Hi mate! Just want to ask. How much did it cost for everything, except for the frame and the fork? Thanks mate! Nice video, btw.
@BuddyLAR
@BuddyLAR 4 года назад
Mantab, kreatif teruss tanpa batas manfaatkan apa yg ada
@oliverviray7702
@oliverviray7702 4 года назад
Nice work i like this idea you so very geneus
@user-gs8wq1zq6b
@user-gs8wq1zq6b 3 месяца назад
super cool convert! I just have a question about the welding part, i dont know anythig about building bikes or welding, but could the heat from the welding affect other parts of the frame? , if it could affect the frame, is it possible to prevent it with like covering the frame with some wet ice cold towel or something?
@HarisMaulana14
@HarisMaulana14 4 года назад
Kualitas video mantul om, kirain dari luar loh, eh kok boso jowo ngomonge, mantul pokok.e om
@hosanar.881
@hosanar.881 Год назад
Muito bom. Quero converter à minha. 👍🏼
@aurelianoperez1837
@aurelianoperez1837 4 года назад
Exelente aporte Gracias por compartir Saludos
@suprax4135
@suprax4135 4 года назад
ono seng nyanyi lagune didi kempot. ambyar...tenan.
@jhovendelgado7690
@jhovendelgado7690 4 года назад
love the song i remember my childhood memories
@1Hamba_ALLAH
@1Hamba_ALLAH 4 года назад
Good job...salam dari minioners tangerang
@tacticaltbc1751
@tacticaltbc1751 4 года назад
Its perfect man so awesome we can just do it at home
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
good luck
@tiozaodabikespbr
@tiozaodabikespbr 4 года назад
Ótimo trabalho, vamos ver se o quadro aguenta a torção do freio sem quebrar.
@eveclopes6133
@eveclopes6133 4 года назад
Mas nas bikes mais modernas o processo é feito diferente?
@lostboy8495
@lostboy8495 4 года назад
Ele podia ter tirado os pinos do v-brake
@fernandofelipe4362
@fernandofelipe4362 4 года назад
@@eveclopes6133 sim a solda é bem mais bem feita
@nicklabelle9573
@nicklabelle9573 Год назад
Nice work I see quick and easy no messing around , same way I would do it , although I would add a brace in the rear triangle and maybe something more for the fork if I feel it needed it.
@nicklabelle9573
@nicklabelle9573 Год назад
And as far as people saying it’s not safe , good thing they won’t be riding it. Way safer than those cheap adjustable brackets on Amazon.
@MrBlowncat
@MrBlowncat 2 года назад
Excellent! 🌟🙌🏼
@memerwrld4097
@memerwrld4097 4 года назад
4:20 u should do gas welding for better pattern👍
@ferdian03
@ferdian03 4 года назад
Hasil.e rapih, mantep pak bro
@DAZLIN6
@DAZLIN6 4 года назад
Amazing 👏 well done
@rajin99
@rajin99 4 года назад
Thank you! 😊
@ak1920
@ak1920 4 года назад
Great work !
@anghellitoss
@anghellitoss 4 года назад
Muy buenas las tomas y buen mod
@ibusuriofficial
@ibusuriofficial 4 года назад
Bagus om ilmu nya mantap
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