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Converting A Lima Coach To NIR Enterprise Livery 

Galgorm Hall
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I needed a set of coaches for my Hunslet and with nothing being available on the market it was time to get out the paints and decals and redo a Lima coach. I show you my process from start to finish in this video.
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Комментарии : 127   
@LaytonJunction
@LaytonJunction 3 года назад
thank you so much for your subscription paul much appreciated enjoyed your video have a good weekend all the best al 😁🙋‍♂️👍👍
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
My pleasure Al and thank you for watching the video. Paul
@skel3110
@skel3110 3 года назад
Nice job Paul, that fleet of 5 is going to look really good behind the Hunslet, cheers Steve
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks so much Steve. Paul
@user-gs7ig6mv4h
@user-gs7ig6mv4h 10 месяцев назад
Looks great and a lot of fun to build 👍
@theangelsmodellingandrailways
@theangelsmodellingandrailways 3 года назад
Nice one Paul, they look really good, from Lima looking to not Lima looking, excellent livery application and the patience for those windows has paid off. Top Notch modelling. All the best. Brian @ The Angels.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks so much Brian. Paul
@FerryDierckxsens
@FerryDierckxsens 2 года назад
Thank you Paul for this great video. Nice to see the converting of these Lima coaches. Very helpful to see how to work with the new flush windows as I have a Lima project waiting to start with. Cheers, Ferry.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
I’m so glad it was of help to you Ferry. Good luck with your project. Paul
@bugler75
@bugler75 3 года назад
Great upgrade, looks 100 times better😊 Ian
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks so much Ian, I’m glad you approve. Paul
@wheezypalacemodels7726
@wheezypalacemodels7726 3 года назад
Great job Paul, very thorough walkthrough process, thanks for sharing..regards, Chris
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks so much Chris. Paul
@turnout999
@turnout999 3 года назад
Excellent Paul ..thanks for sharing😎🚒🚒
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you Geoff. Paul
@onnomulder9775
@onnomulder9775 3 года назад
Awesome job Paul! Well done. Cheers Onno.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you Onno. Paul
@brblue6839
@brblue6839 3 года назад
The coach looks well. One tip on the bogies. The Lima ones were the wrong away around so if you are adding a new coupling hook add it to the opposite end to where the Lima coupling was located. This applies to both this Lima 2B and their air-conditioned Mk 2s as well.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks for that too, I’ll remember it for future conversions. Paul
@kevinludlow7561
@kevinludlow7561 3 года назад
Clear, precise, and easy to follow should anyone wish to do the same---- subscribing now, thanks for posting
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you for the kind comment and the subscription. Paul
@johnodonoghue7381
@johnodonoghue7381 3 года назад
Great video yet again Paul , keep them coming
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks as always John. Paul
@daviemaclean61
@daviemaclean61 3 года назад
Excellent job Paul. I too am a fan of the alfresco spray booth! ;-)
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Haha Davie, it was too nice a day not to. Paul
@JPoulAndersson
@JPoulAndersson 3 года назад
Lovely work Paul - thanks for the video! Joachim
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Appreciate the feedback Joachim as always. Paul
@SpottingWithSam
@SpottingWithSam 2 года назад
Very good video. Over in New Zealand we use the MK2 carriage on our "Capital Connection" service, Runs from Palmerston North to Wellington (The capital city) and then from Wellington every week day. I'm planning on painting them in that paint scheme (with the addition of some mods) with the Lima MK2 (As its the best I've currently got) So very informative. Thank you!
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
Thank you MMT, these coaches get everywhere, good luck with your project. Paul
@rickytucker6832
@rickytucker6832 3 года назад
Brilliant this has inspired me to have ago myself . Looking forward to your next upload . All the best 👍
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Good luck with it Ricky and thank you. Paul
@henryrogers3821
@henryrogers3821 2 года назад
Got the engine, great video will now try to get coaches to convert.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it Henry. Paul
@medwaymodelrailway7129
@medwaymodelrailway7129 3 года назад
Like the update very much.Thank's.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you Dave. Paul
@danderhallrailway5140
@danderhallrailway5140 3 года назад
Very nice, good to see some NIR stock and how to go about creating it
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you Chris. Paul
@Justin-nir
@Justin-nir 3 года назад
Brilliant Paul, I just need the brake van too, so I can complete 🙂
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you. If you get yours done before me I’m open to hearing any tips or pitfalls. 😉Paul
@Justin-nir
@Justin-nir 3 года назад
And a buffet car 547 🙆🏻‍♂️
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Unless I pick up another 101 this will run as a five car set so passengers will be required to bring packed lunches with them. 😆 Paul
@TONYNORTHEASTERN
@TONYNORTHEASTERN 3 года назад
Great conversion Paul, there seems to be a lot people buying up the old lima stock and converting them. but is worth doing and not only that they look as good as new. if not better. thanks again for a great tutorial...........cheer's Tony
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you as always Tony. It’s by no means a comparison to a more modern Bachmann or Hornby offering but they’ll serve a purpose. Paul
@TONYNORTHEASTERN
@TONYNORTHEASTERN 3 года назад
new models are going up in price. even loco's now are hitting the £200 mark. all the best Tony
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
You’re not wrong but we still buy them. 😆 Paul
@murphaph
@murphaph 3 года назад
The spaghetti jar is inspired. Great tip and great video.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks Philip, I’d like to say it was mine but I just copied what another modeller, Eric at Harfield Road, was using. Paul
@murphaph
@murphaph 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall Well thanks nevertheless for passing it on and thanks for the IPA tip as well. I have loads of it and I was going to use brake fluid on some of these but I'll use IPA instead now. Looks to do a good job. Are you just putting the coaches back into the used IPA a few times Paul?
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
@@murphaph for these Lima coaches they got dipped twice. The second dip was really just a precautionary one to ensure I hadn’t missed any paint removal after the first one. Paul
@altube57
@altube57 3 года назад
Paul, I thought that was an attractive rake of MK II coaches behind the Hunslet a few videos back. I was very impressed to see how you transformed the Lima Mk II's into upgraded stock, with a striking livery. Very well done, and an excellent presentation! Cheers, Alan
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Hi Alan, thank you for the very kind feedback. Paul
@alexhill9169
@alexhill9169 3 года назад
Great video Paul. Great to see how you made those coaches, looks like a lot of work, but well worth it.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
I wouldn’t be making a production line service available but needs must to get coaching stock for the Hunslet. Paul
@alexhill9169
@alexhill9169 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall Needs must, they look good though, the flush glazing really helps. Alex
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Cheers bud. Paul
@marklittlejohn1457
@marklittlejohn1457 3 года назад
Brilliant work mate great video thankyou
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you Mark. Paul
@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 3 года назад
Good video as you always put up
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks as always. Paul
@paulbache3940
@paulbache3940 2 года назад
excellent work !
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
Thanks Paul. Paul
@Bassetvids
@Bassetvids 3 года назад
Great stuff...been looking forward to this video..👏
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
I hope it met your expectations Julian. 😆 Paul
@Bassetvids
@Bassetvids 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall Galgorm ' never fails ' Hall..... 👌👌☘️
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@aodhanmc3413
@aodhanmc3413 3 года назад
Excellent job Paul :), the coaches look really really good. Master class as always.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Too too kind Aodhan, thank you. Paul
@Sandlingjunction
@Sandlingjunction 3 года назад
Very enjoyable chum, liked that and learned some useful stuff along the way, cheers Paul at Sandling Junction.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it. Paul
@presidentxd
@presidentxd 3 года назад
Very well done.i use old mk1 triangs and paint orange and black.not prototypical but a cheap way to have 70s looking c.i.e stock. Great channel
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
It’s all about getting some decent coaching stock for the Irish locos. Whatever works is my approach. Paul
@presidentxd
@presidentxd 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall they go with my c.i.e hymek from 1976
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Oh I think I saw that on the Facebook group, am I right? Paul
@presidentxd
@presidentxd 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall im not on facebook
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Ah ok, it must have been someone else sharing their CIE Hymek
@kevmc249
@kevmc249 3 года назад
Great video, has given me the inspiration to give it a go. looking forward to how you do the driving brake trailer. Well done. Kevin
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you Kevin, good luck with your projects. Paul
@ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains
@ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains 3 года назад
What a difference the flush glazing makes. Fantastic like all your videos. Loved this. I have a faint memory of Irish Rail having similar stock running between Dublin and Galway and an even fainter memory of Lima actually doing these?
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thank you and you’re right, the flush glazing makes all the difference. Paul
@murphaph
@murphaph 3 года назад
Hi. Lima never did Irish mk2a/b/c stock. Murphy Models commissioned Bachmann to make mk2a coaches in IR and IE livery but there were only 4 prototype mk2a's. These as well as the rest of the IR mk2 air braked stock was made up of ex BR mk2b & c coaches (only around 18 in total). Like the NIR ones they have to be made from resprayed Limas. Some mk2as had the centre door plated over by IR so these ones need a Bachmann BR donor to be filled and resprayed. IR used rebuilt Werkspoor EGVs (converted from GSVs) in these trains which weren't as nice as the uniform look of the NIR rakes with matching EGV.
@Elvenhome
@Elvenhome 3 года назад
Interesting to see the process for converting the coaches. What a dilemma on the Hunslet; but is the dilemma whether you buy another Hunslet, or when? Stephen
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
I think you know the answer to that dilemma. 😆 Paul
@NicholassTrainChannel
@NicholassTrainChannel 3 года назад
Nice job Paul the coaches came up pretty well once you did the repaint im suprised no one makes one in RTR. Cheers and all the best. Nicholas.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks Nicholas, with the ever increasing interest in Irish railways it’s maybe only a matter of time before a RTR one will come available. 🤞🏻Paul
@alanrmurphy
@alanrmurphy Год назад
I have four of these coaches and have been afraid to touch them as I didn't know how they came apart! I'd love to try converting them to the old CIE black and orange, perhaps with a white stripe above the windows!
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall Год назад
Hopefully the video has helped. Just be careful taking that roof off as the plastic clips can break or worse you crack the roof piece itself. Paul
@medwaypeninsulaMR
@medwaypeninsulaMR 3 года назад
Great work Paul and you answered a question I had which was how do you get the roof off Lima Coaches. That looks a professional job on the coach re spray and it does not show at all that it has been re sprayed. Cheers Kev
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks so much Kev. The roof is a little fiddly and easily broken too if you go at it too hard. Slow and steady wins the race. Paul
@trainsontuesday
@trainsontuesday 3 года назад
They look great Paul. It seems that there is a lot to know about the Mk. II coaches. I have 1 Lima one and 1 Hornby in Virgin livery and 8 Airfix ones in Inter City. I'll have to look and see if I can find any real differences between them. Regards, David.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks as always David, the differences are small and could be something minute in their appearances. In this case it’s the lack of a central door on the coach that denotes it as being a 2b but their could be other differences too I haven’t yet noticed. Paul
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 года назад
Some very satisfying clicks as that coach went back together. It's always a reassuring sound as now you know it's in the right place. Did NIR not use cantrail stripes on their carriages? Every time I watch one of your videos, I realise just how little I know about the railways over there, so every one is educational for me. It's good to see these old Lima models being re-purposed but I agree with you; I think R-T-R coaches will appear - just a matter of time.👍👌😁
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
The clicking sounds were indeed satisfying. As to the contrail I found no evidence of them on this livery of coach, whether that was a budgetary constraint or what I just don’t know. Certainly later liveries have carried a contrail marking on them. Paul
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall I suppose I'm used to BR liveries, which usually did carry them. On the few photos I've seen of this livery, there's no sign of any. Anything that simplifies the painting or decals has to be a good thing though. Lining can be such a pain to get right and cantrail stripes are usually pretty narrow. Looking forward to you completing the rake.👍👌😁
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
@@2H80vids I’m glad I didn’t have to do them. If I do some of the older maroon stock or later wasp stripe variants there may be more masking required but that’s for another day. Paul
@nigelweir3852
@nigelweir3852 3 года назад
Great video , ah now how to get Lima coaches , lock down is main problem , Halfords here we come
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks so much Nigel. I picked mine up on eBay, you just need to bide your time to get a good deal and watch out for those HO versions lurking amongst them. Paul
@alfiejohnchester8108
@alfiejohnchester8108 8 месяцев назад
Hi, This was a very interesting video for me. I'm forever upgrading old stock, particularly old Lima stock. Opening up one of these Mk2 coaches has always been something of a mystery. I now know how to strip them down to their very basic components - thanks for that if nothing else. Did you ever get around to converting the Mk2 Guards Van to the Driving Brake Trailer an (I think that's what it's called? I've looked at the videos on your site but either I've missed it or perhaps it's called something else. Thanks again.
@henryrogers3821
@henryrogers3821 2 года назад
Hi Paul I have followed all in your master class, coaches look well. But when going to buy transfers I find the price for a set is costing almost £40 Unfortunately its at this point my converts have to finish. Points glazing etc were expensive enough but not prepared for the cost of transfers.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
Hi Henry they are a tad expensive however the quality of them is superb plus there are enough decals to do a number of coaches which does cut the cost considerably. I reckon when I break down the costs of all materials plus the donar coaches each one comes in at about £30 each for the 5 that I’ve done. In my mind that is still excellent value against an RTR coach. Paul
@FredWilbury
@FredWilbury 3 года назад
Nice one Paul , and there’s me destroying 2 of these for the model Railway challenge. Maybe I’ll restore them lol. regards fred ps love the spaghetti jar idea
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
You didn’t destroy them Fred, just repurposed in to something more magnificent. 😉 Paul
@FredWilbury
@FredWilbury 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall not the 37’s Paul , there were two Lima coaches as a static accommodation by Gary’s water slide . They had wooden ends and completely rusted and no bogies . 👌😎
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
@@FredWilbury I have no memory of that at all. 😂
@FredWilbury
@FredWilbury 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall they were not very visible in the show, thanks for your reply Paul
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
@@FredWilbury perhaps why I missed it. If I’m really bored I’ll play it back in catch up. 😉
@clivecobbold6815
@clivecobbold6815 3 года назад
Hi Paul another great video mate I really enjoyed it every interesting I have conceived lima mk2b coaches in to mk2c coaches as you know for my wcml layout set in the 1980s are you go converted a lima mk2b in to nir grill/bar In the future mate southern pride kits make a 00 kits of br mk2b/c coaches all types for £29 I have seen photos of them I have built there class310 mk2 emu kit it looks really good mate I am have problem with cataracts with my eyes at the moment so I am not working on my mk2c coaches at the moment until I get my eyes worked on paul stay safe and well mate goodbye for now your friend clive
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks a lot Clive. Sorry to hear about your sight issues, hopefully they’ll settle down and you can get back to some modelling work. Paul
@rhiwderinraytube
@rhiwderinraytube 3 года назад
Nicely done. Pity the new windows have to be cut, but they look great.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
Thanks Ray, it’s a bit of a faff cutting the windows out but small get in comparison to some aspects of the conversion. Paul
@rhiwderinraytube
@rhiwderinraytube 3 года назад
@@GalgormHall I looked up their website and they do a set for the Triang Blue Pullman, so I will order some and give them a try. I rewheeled mine to modern standards, so might as well go the extra mile.
@henryrogers3821
@henryrogers3821 2 года назад
Hi Paul Just found lima intercity coaches I for got I had purchased some time ago two guards and two carrodore. I suppose the transfers would be cut to suit on the guards coach? But gonna give it a go.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
I never got round to converting the guards coach as this should really have an end window as it was a driving trailer. Paul
@TATICMOOR
@TATICMOOR Год назад
Impressive mod to these old Lima coaches to give them a new lease of life in NIR livery. I may at some point give this ago for my Class 201 River Lagon to pull. I think I've met you at one of the UMRC Carrickfergus or Belfast Exhibitions during the early 20-teens?
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall Год назад
Thanks John, they are an enjoyable mod to do and with NIR stock a scarcity to purchase a worthwhile project. I’ve never done the Carrick show but certainly have attended the Belfast ones so it’s quite possible we have met. Introduce yourself the next time you see me, I’m always interested in a chat with fellow modellers. Paul
@TATICMOOR
@TATICMOOR Год назад
@Galgorm Hall Yes, IRM from Accura are a sure hit for RTR stock. Though it's mainly Southern at the moment. We need more Northern stuff. I didn't get to order the IRMs NIR or RPSI coaches before out of stock, blast it. Tho I do have the Bachmann Snail sets and MM Cravens to run. Love the Black and Tan livery, but my last loco was the Silver Class A. Now rectified with 2x 121s grey/yellows ordered today.
@TATICMOOR
@TATICMOOR Год назад
@Galgorm Hall PS: I must keep in contact with you then. Maybe take a train Belfast to B'mena for a coffee/tea and cake, with a chat thrown in. Do you remember Chris's converted 170 Turbostar into the NIR Caf, which was an outstanding mod DMU.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall Год назад
@@TATICMOOR a new team room at the station in Cullybackey too. What could be better? Drop me an email and we can exchange contact details to organise something in the new year. Paul
@TATICMOOR
@TATICMOOR Год назад
@Galgorm Hall That sounds great, Paul. Cully has a soft spot with me as a child on Craig's Rd. I'm sure you know Jim of Maine Models there at the school. Haven't been there for about 10 years. I hope Jim is well.
@henryrogers3821
@henryrogers3821 2 года назад
Paul any particular model of coach to look out for ie lima model number/product type?
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 2 года назад
The Lima coach to look for is the Mk2b 2nd open coach W5449. Alternatively you could wait until the end of the year for Irish Railway Models to produce their NIR coaches. 😉 Paul
@thescrapline4905
@thescrapline4905 3 года назад
I bet half the content of this video made up with plenty of "get out you b#!@%rd" with the odd 'F' word thrown in whilst trying to dismantle that coach! They don't make them like they used to lol. Great results though. Top stuff.
@GalgormHall
@GalgormHall 3 года назад
You’ve hit the nail on the head there, editing is my friend. 😆 Cheers Tim. Paul
@TATICMOOR
@TATICMOOR Год назад
Paul, I couldn't find your email address, I have mine (I think) on my profile, if not I'll add it.
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