Cool Cars For Young People: The 2009 Honda Accord i-DTEC 

Agreed.

Be great! 👍

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YES! Please include cars that can be bought in the EU also.

Yep, I am a young person, I would love to know what cars are cool for us youngsters before putting my money in

They're shit.

@@jakemalatesta9592 You clearly know 'shit' all about cars! 😂

The diesel isn't too bad, just a bit expensive if something goes wrong.

@@MattBeardless i don't personally like turbos in general and even get frustrated when a petrol only revs to 6k. So not a big fan of any 4k rev limit with a turbo

2.4 i-vtec

@@chrisogrady28 my other car revs to 9 😌

Had a 2008 2.0 petrol. One of the finest handling family cars. Lacked in power so would've liked to opt for the 2.4.

I kept mine for 10 years! The 6th gen was beautifully made car and was great great fun to drive.

Proper K24Z engine too

It's actually on 350Z GT RAYS now, @mattbeardless on IG if you want a look.

@@MattBeardless I'm sure it looks great but I'm that one person in the world who doesn't take part in social media😋

@@klasseact6663 you are on social media RU-vid

turner yeah I know but it's not like FaceSpace, Twits or Instagratification, you know what I mean🤔

Manufactures make versions and exclusive models for the American market to appeal to Americans even though we got bought the North American spec Honda Accord and Acura TSX. I actually like both.

Agreed. Honda in a different league.

I think I know what James means. Personally, although I respect Honda as a highly trusted company who's record on reliability is amongst the top tier of car manufacturers, I consider them to have a very on/off existence with thier cars. They either go all out Banzai on it with screaming engines and flailing knives, or they let some very old men in very beige shirts and a tie design it instead, as if passion and excitement is a rare commodity to be rationed out to only something with an R at the end of the name. There doesn't seem to be any kind of middle ground. Because the majority of the volume produced cars sold are the more "regular" type, people see the staide, beige imaged everyday Honda like the Jazz and think "they're the same sort of thing as a Fiesta or Corsa". Consequently, Honda are not as premium in image as they probably deserve. People like and respect thier reliability and thier safe choices whilst also seeing them as a little overpriced. Ultimately Honda lack the width of mode ranges to really be able to put enough of the produce in people hands at a price that matches the price or the expectation of some. So we find Honda in this weird stuck elevator level, not as attainable as a Vauxhall, but not as lusted after as a BMW.

Good call......

Had one. Oddly the boot is smaller in length than the saloon. Trust me, I measured. And less bootspace than a civic (not the new ugly one) But do I miss it? Apart from low rev lethargy, price of parts and a few other things... Absolutely.... I understand that the diesels are absolute belters though!

@@drd6416 genuinely adore it.

@@drd6416 I think it's because the wagon has this rounded rear end. Sort of fastback styling which is cool but then robs boot space. It's a trade off of style for space.

BMW only 6cylinders motors upwards are worth buying..

Reliability and low running costs have tended to be the the draw cards for Honda and Toyota. However I'd have thought the Honda Legend would be closer to a 5 series. 🤔

@@projecthowto Cheers I'll bare that in mind 👍

@@thomas316 Yeah it was the reliability that attracted me to the Honda. Dont see many legends around mind, plenty of Acccords at decent prices tho 👍

it is not reliable for honda standards. Too much vibration from this engine. N16 was so bad that toyota's 1nd-tv engine fared better even though it was also not upto mark for toyota diesel standard. Both of them were developed for 3rd world market. Mainly for south east asia.

Do it.

Did it have these wheels? Those are from the civic fn2 type r

Hang on... you guys don't have the Accord? You should check out the Accord we get over here in the states. It's a true beaut. Shame you guys don't get one!

@@aviatorsdream4686 No sir! I believe they stopped production of it a few years ago (I'm sure someone on here will be able to tell you exactly when). Oh I'd love to man, what a car.

2014 I believe. I had the 2011 Type S. Sold JUST prior to Covid due to clutch last year. 100K(96,445) on stock parts... quality of product that is such a rarity these days..! Beware the DPF... you've been warned!!

Same as all Accords. It baffles me how underrated Accords are in Europe, considering how big success they always were in US. But, it has some pros too - there is much lesser chance of spotting same car on the road. They are rare enough to stand out in a crowd. And good looking too ;)

@@PlayTrickBLOGSPOT its really because BMW has a better brand image than Honda in Europe at that price range. More badge lookers than actual need for a car but that's reality. It's the same with Mitsubishi too, except for the Evos and Monteros, everything else they have are regarded as "crap" but they really aren't that bad, not bad at all. But again that's brand image.... 🤷

@@aaryeshg.6526 I know, right? I often heard an argument that Hondas are too expensive, but when I actually compared dealership prices myself - audi and bmws were significantly more expensive, because to get all the stuff EX Honda comes with as standard, in bmw and vag you have to tick off optional extras. And suddenly cheaper base becomes 3k more expensive than similarly equipped accord.

@@aaryeshg.6526 Don't forget the 10% tariff on cars imported from Japan! That makes imported Accords like these, Subarus and Mazdas all price uncompetitive in the UK. Honda could price the Civic and CR-V more realistically as they were made locally in the UK.

Toyota & Lexus, Honda & Acura and Nissan & Infiniti are all a lot more popular in the US than they are in the UK! :)

Funny story, the Legend would've been what I'd have bought but when I bought this I was doing 130 miles a day. It now has front 4 pot callipers from the Legend on 350z discs though.

@@MattBeardless You still have a really nice car Matt. My partner is on the hunt for an FN4 Type S, as her first foray into sporty hatchbacks so I've got a lot of respect for the badge and the history behind it.

@@paul1978g appreciate that, my mum's actually got an FK3 Civic, the four door diesel FN2 era...quite a fun car to drive once you get over how odd the interior design is.

what do you drive at the moment? i drive a 1.2 polo but am looking to upgrade to a 1.6 ep2 civic

@@AriesUmbra At the moment I'm driving a 2003 1.4 Fiesta. Bought the car for £500 in September 2019 but our mechanic reckons the head gasket needs replacing so its not worth fixing. I only have 1 year no claims at the moment but I find that these bigger saloons are cheaper to insure than equivalent hatches and have more kit aswell.

@@AriesUmbra I'd reccomend taking a look at Mk3 Mondeo Ghia X's on autotrader. You can get a good one for less than £2k and they come loaded with kit (how much of it will still work is another thing entirely)

I came from a B18 Swapped Civic to this, wasn't bored.

Many dont even want cars at all

Many don't know what a car is

Hondas can be proper pricey for insurance. I've always had USDM models here in the UK and they are so expensive to insure because the parts are just insanely priced. Someone crashed into the rear quarter of my EJ coupe and the insurer wanted to write it off because Honda would only supply the rear bumper already painted from Ohio. I managed to save it from being written off by agreeing to accept that rather than having it colour matched

Get a stage 1 remap....

@@anthonyrobinson2694 it was 2006, I had the car for around a year, company car... Not worth it. I have remapped other cars I've kept longer though

type r?

Yes. Jay has done a review on them before. Check his vlogs

I've driven an ATR, honestly if it wasn't for the mpg and rust issues the CH1 has I'd probably have sold this one for a CH1.

Not in this generation, the Euro R is the 7th gen. The fastest versions of these are all mapped diesels unless you boost the K24s.

@@MattBeardless Yes,i think you are right.The one I saw did not have the wide track like the gen 8. Have not seen a diesel accord in N.Z yet.

I have a 7th gen manual 2.4 type s too, I just had the ECU reflashed recently and it is absolutely brilliant to drive now. Vtec has dropped to 4600 to 7800rpm. More torque between 2000rpm to 4600rpm. I believe BHP is around 205 now, with new intake manifold and header you can get about 225bhp. Pretty decent for a FWD naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine.

Yeah dropping the VTEC is probably the single most important thing on them. OEM is VTEC at 6100 and revlimit at 7200 so kinda pointless. Local Honda tuner put K20 oilpump (no balance shafts), 50 degree vtec actuator, good header and K20 intake and got about 240hp with E85. The head flows well its the stuff before and after holding it back. And the less-degree vtec actuator for the 2.4

@@bingoberra18 woah that's some awesome gains. I am planning to do more tuning to it soon. Here in the uk minimum octane petrol is 95 and 99 octane is premium fuel.

@@mrwaqy But you probably have E85 as well? It´s 104 octane. But I wouldnt run E85, as it creates a bunch more headaches. If you want it a bit more responsive you can put the flywheel from the K20 aswell, its rather a bit lighter.. Basically everything bolted on the engine of a Civic Type-R is a great upgrade to the K24. You want the same specs or better but keep the 2.4 longblock.

@@bingoberra18 oh ok. So you mean parts from the fn2 type r?

Is that the slightly bonkers awd v6 saloon that almost looks like a Citroën but is mega rare?

@@drd6416 it is!

@@drd6416 2.4l 4-pot, sadly.

No one makes a fun diesel, they just aren't fun engines. Not saying they can't be good or even fantastic, MK1 Fabia vRS was just awesome, but not fun. A Honda with a diesel just goes against everything I think of and desire in a Honda, their petrol engines are the absolute polar opposite to a diesel

@@psions555 I’m going to get you to disagree your statement. Mk4 golf TDi 150 as the classic 1.9 really kicked. Many preferred the TDi over the gti in its day. That reversed by the mk7 where GTD was lane versus GTi. Just a thought. I’m 44. Old ish.

@@psions555 yes spot on the Fabia VRs was totally the same. Same drive train transmission just lighter. This was almost fun though rough aurally.

@@psions555 I’ve always hated the Honda and Nissan diesels. In the motor trade they sound like nothing else. They almost hiss. It really is a wierd engine. And the petrol 1.8 civic returns 50 mpg anyway. Old boys love the 2.4i Auto Hondas. I drove back an IS200 auto today. The mk2 diesel 2.2 they used from Avensis woeful and mega unreliable. As a car trader we typically hate diesels and their problems.

If you don’t mind asking, how much does it cost a DPF for these accords?

@@ruinunes8251 its ussualy arroun 750€ + labour, so it can get up to 1200-1400€, and for some its not a permanent solution, if its being driven on short trips then it can clog up again. Usually its okay for 20 000km with the new one.

@@nurrar4485 That is the reason why I didn’t buy a diesel one. Very expensive to replace a DPF and the sort of usage we give to our car, it would clog up in no time.

@@ruinunes8251 exactly, i managed to go arround that coz not all countries are the same.

Legitimately we do. My front grille went to a good friend of mine in MA. - I'm the owner of this CU3 'TSX'.

@@MattBeardless Oh that's excellent, I'm glad to hear that. My favorite version of this is when European owners want the look of US-spec sealed beam headlights on cars like the Saab 96 and Jaguar XJS, despite their inferior lighting properties, while the US enthusiasts want the Euro-spec lights. Grass is always greener and all that.

German isn't that unreliable if you do your homework and get the right ones. I have an 11 plate A4 Avant which has 140k miles (from 50k) and it's never let me down. I have been looking to maybe change to one of these as servicing is more expensive but I can't really fault it despite being warned it would bankrupt me.

I would've but at the time I had one blown

This one makes more power than the type S

@@MattBeardless Type-S has all the features, including full leather seats, premium audio, HID lights, etc., and not just extra power, whereas all other models are missing something.

@@lmtliam I'm missing the full leathers...but also making 191hp and 300lbft. Can't say I mind.

@@MattBeardless I tested a 150BHP car and it was fine too. The buyer of my Type-S said he was going to knock out the DPF and get the power up to 210-220 BHP.

@@lmtliam yep, dpf deleted they do make a bit more money for a couple of minor adjustments between the B1 and the B2. Either way they're both reasonably quick. The basic unmapped 150hp is a bit tame though...

This is a far superior engine to the Mazda 2.2.

Dmf and clutch was a £1400 job.

Honestly, I test drove both before buying this...the 8th gen is worth the extra.

Good luck finding one mate ;)

@@MattBeardless ha tell me about it, very rare.

Do they offer the v6 in Europe/England?

@@thechillywinds5810 no unfortunately not! The only V6 we got was the Honda Accord coupe (3.0 v6 200bhp) 1997 - 2002 Or the Honda Legend kb1. Shame really as a high revving v6 would be lovely in a honda shell

@@anthonybelton-ford3124 yes very rare, majority 2.4s are autos and I wanted a manual. I owned the 2.0 vtec which is great so really wanted the 2.4. I finally found one searching for over a year.

You killed it there👍 They would drive away in a Passat or an Audi.

@@ruinunes8251 Yes or an Audi