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Corporate Counterfeiting: A Race to the Bottom of Quality (ft. SK Adjustable Wrenches) 

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A short rant about what I’ve started referring to as “corporate counterfeiting”. Often now legacy companies with a good reputation for quality are trying to compete in a crowded market and increase profits by putting their name on inferior products and passing it off as being the same quality we’ve come to expect from that brand.
The unfortunate victim of my ire in this video is SK, a legacy American company recently bought out by a Chinese conglomerate. They’re still happy to advertise being an American company when they sell you a Chinese product (because they keep their headquarters here) but many of the products are now produced in China and the profits go back to China.
I am not sponsored by any companies. The tools shown are purchased by me with my own money and the opinions are mine.

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@lordleonusa
@lordleonusa Год назад
Gone are the days when companies were proud to put their name on a good product and stand behind it.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Год назад
I think with Irega we do get that- sad it isn’t the old US made Western Forge based stuff, but Irega does seem to have the technical experience and quality control to make high quality adjustables. I’m really starting to like my Spanish wrenches.
@spec-fx1
@spec-fx1 3 месяца назад
This is precisely why I now, when searching for tools I need or don't have, look only for vintage tools made pre-1980's by any of the old made in USA or West Germany brands.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 3 месяца назад
Not a bad strategy, but there are still excellent tools made now. The difference is they are sometimes from brands unfamiliar and from places unexpected. I actually have come to really like my adjustable wrenches made by Irega in Spain. I was loyal to the US-made Proto adjustables for years, but these Irega ones I might actually prefer now. The handle is a bit wider so it is more comfortable to my palm when using a lot of force. Even Snap-On is having their adjustables made in Spain. My go-to ratchet is a GearWrench 120XP from Taiwan. The small head, fine ratcheting mechanism, minimal back drag, easy servicing, strength of the mechanism, and intuitive direction changes make it a real winner. There’s no ratchet I’d rather use. Basically the entire lineup of Knipex out of Germany is high quality. Great pliers. Their miniature bolt cutters are very handy, also. The Engineer screw extraction pliers from Japan are a sort of niche tool, but they come in handy. Klein hand tools are mostly made in the US still and work well. Some of the Klein tools are now sourced from Germany, Spain, or Taiwan, but the quality is excellent. There are good tools out there but it just takes some investigation and sometimes being willing to pay a pretty penny.
@marcmckenzie5110
@marcmckenzie5110 2 месяца назад
Licensing a brand is like changing wives who each have the same first name, and expecting the kids to not notice.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 2 месяца назад
I love that. Gave me a good chuckle. Thanks.
@20_below
@20_below 11 месяцев назад
SK tools was acquired by a Chinese company over a year ago. It is now what I call a zombie brand. The tools available on the website are what's left of their US stock. (Source : I'm a mechanic who has used SK for about 20 years.)
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, it’s sad seeing a legacy company get bought out like that. Just a shell of its former self. I’ve become a little bit protective of my US made ones now. They stay in the tool box most of the time and Wright branded wrenches by Irega in Spain have become my workhorses.
@TradeWorks_Construction
@TradeWorks_Construction 2 месяца назад
SK was sold to a large Chinese company and they are being manufactured without the “made in USA“. my guess is that the Chinese company is producing those SK wrenches with bottom of the line shit quality control and planning to ride the SK name all the way into the ground by deliberately shortcutting the bottom line costs, but enjoying the SK reputation
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 2 месяца назад
It’s unfortunately happened to many legacy companies.
@avernvrey7422
@avernvrey7422 Год назад
Thx for the vid. This has a long history, with many different branches on the core concept. But yes, absolutely, firms have for a long time realized that they could bring in higher margins by slapping their name on lower cost to manufacture stuff and selling for significant profits based on brand recognition (or goodwill). There is a risk, of course, of destruction of reputation, and that's why in the last 40 years these types of actions have mainly been seen after an acquisition by a more, short-term profit, focused groups or funds. Sometimes even it will be a hostile acquisition. Essentially, the acquirer believes the name brand firm is available for sale for a lower price than their goodwill with consumers. So, the acquirer leverages that public goodwill, floods the market with relatively low cost, but high-margin and lower quality, products and draws down on the public goodwill. Eventually, people wise up and start viewing the brand as "junk these days," but by then the new owners will have made back their purchase price and much more. They often dump the hull of the famous firm, sometimes the next buyers are "turn-around" funds. This strategy affects all kinds of famous brands, in many industries, from fashion (ie, Ferragamo) to industrial tools (ie, the great vid above).
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Год назад
That states it perfectly, and is what happened in this instance. A financially struggling legacy brand gets scooped up by a huge Chinese conglomerate and they can sell bottom of the barrel dollar store wrenches for the price of high quality European wrenches. As long as they can keep the charade going for a few years that’s all that matters. They all had to do something when Western Forge closed down, but it’s very telling about company culture when you see who moved production to Europe (especially Irega in Spain which has more than a century of experience manufacturing adjustable wrenches) versus going the cheap route and moving production to China. Contrary to what it might seem, I am not opposed to buying products made internationally. There are companies around the world with extensive experience and attention to quality and having them manufacture a product that is their specialty is often a logical choice. It is a complicated situation for sure.
@paulb4496
@paulb4496 8 месяцев назад
IREGA is a tool company in spain that only makes adjustable end wrenches. You will find made in Spain markings on a lot of rebrands produced by IREGA...Great wrenches.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 8 месяцев назад
I love their wrenches. A Wright branded wrench made by Irega (recently abducted so I no longer have it) is one of my favorites. I also have one branded in their own name as well as Klein, Wiha, and Bahco. It appears Snap-On is also made by Irega in a similar pattern to the Bahco. Only thing to look out for is Ingersoll-Rand, Westward, and Proto look very similar in general shape and style but I think they’re actually made in Taiwan. Seem to be decent wrenches, but not quite on par with Irega.
@akawireguy1197
@akawireguy1197 2 месяца назад
Nothing you purchase today can be taken at face value. This goes far beyond tools. Brand names are bought and sold every day so even a name you trusted last month can't be depended on to be the same this month.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Месяц назад
Absolutely true, and as these buyouts happen the new owners are seemingly happy to use that brand reputation to sell lower quality and maximize profits for a time.
@smokefast90606
@smokefast90606 2 месяца назад
Bought by Chinese lots of companies have gone that way then the Chinese make them cheap basically demolishing the American tool industry and people will say meh harbor freight is the same which it isn’t
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 2 месяца назад
One thing that I do like about Harbor Freight is they have developed their product quality more and shifted lots of their tools out of China. They offer a lot from Taiwan now, and the fact is some of my Taiwanese tools are among my favorites. I love my Tekton wrench rolls, and the GearWrench 120XP ratchet is definitely a favorite.
@alandesgrange9703
@alandesgrange9703 11 месяцев назад
I collect vintage tools. I can buy an old American crescent wrench at a flea market for a few dollars. 5 minutes on a wire wheel, some clean up and oil, and you've got something better than that new crap. I must have around 50 of them. Can't pass them up when the price is right.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 11 месяцев назад
There are definitely deals to be had on used tools for someone who can seek them out and is willing to invest a little bit of effort. I think it is important to have tools of high quality still manufactured, though. Obviously things don’t last forever being one reason, but also in instances of a company purchasing tools it is much easier to have them order from Grainger or Amazon than trying to get reimbursed from a flea market purchase. Stuff like you’re talking about I keep at home for my own uses and enjoy the nostalgia. For work wrenches I have mostly settled on Wright brand wrenches made by Irega in Spain.
@chuckfischer7202
@chuckfischer7202 3 месяца назад
The practice you describe here is called 'shitting the nest'. So many once respected brands have taken this route. Is bummer.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 3 месяца назад
I like that term. I’ll be using it.
@lordleonusa
@lordleonusa Год назад
My best adjustable wrenches are by Channelock, made in Spain!
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Год назад
Pretty sure those are almost identical to Bahco/SnapOn. Haven’t seen one in person to be certain, but they look very similar.
@anond2015
@anond2015 11 месяцев назад
The company that makes those, Irega, has made nothing but adjustable wrenches for over a century. They're very good, and they now make wrenches for Bahco, Snap On, Klein, Chennellock, and I'm sure many others. I have yet to get my hands on one, but they are supposed to be the best.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 11 месяцев назад
@@anond2015 Irega is awesome. I have another wrench video where I talk about some of the various wrenches I’ve picked up to try out. Irega, Bahco, Wright, Klein, etc… all made in Spain, presumably by Irega. Really nice wrenches. The Bahco wrenches are a bargain when you realize they’re the same wrenches as SnapOn with a different finish and handle color.
@rowan1able
@rowan1able 2 месяца назад
It's All smoking mirrors! Run Forest! Runn
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 2 месяца назад
Trickery afoot.
@simpleton8148
@simpleton8148 2 месяца назад
I have all USA SK. But you have to understand. The company that made that original wrench is out of business. And they never even chromed it. Unlike what is the cheaper one. That’s funny actually. But if SK didn’t use overseas manufacturing it to would be out of business like Western Forge and many others. Take notice the tool trucks are getting less and less. As people fill their snap on box with Icon and Tekton. Let’s hope greatstar can bring it.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Месяц назад
That’s ultimately what it is- a Chinese buyout of a failed brand. SK didn’t weather the storm. I buy Irega wrenches now from Spain. It seems most of the quality brands are now sourcing from them, including SnapOn, Klein, Wright, and others.
@JakePlisskin12
@JakePlisskin12 4 месяца назад
Man i dont even use anymore adjustable wrench unless its over 2ft long. I just use the knipex plier wrenches now.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 4 месяца назад
Are you talking about those parallel jaw ones with the fine adjustment button? Chrome plated? If so, I do have a pair and like them. Great for installing AR15 trigger guard roll pins. lol I like them, especially for their ability to hold nuts in place to receive a bolt in area difficult to reach my fingers into, for not dropping nuts being removed in that same circumstance, and the large range of adjustment. I don’t like how expensive they are, and that I can’t beat on them with a hammer as effectively (such as in loosening or breaking off highly corroded fasteners) due to the nature of the design and the expense associated with damaging them. The nature of my work is also such that bringing a full wrench roll up to elevation is impractical or burdensome, so a pair of adjustable wrenches and a pair of adjustable pipe pliers either by ChannelLock or Knipex satisfies most requirements with minimal weight and bulk.
@paulb4496
@paulb4496 8 месяцев назад
Another example is Craftsman...their screwdrivers from the 1970's and earlier were forged and the slotted ones (their Phillips were never any good) were indestructible, I would use them as chisels and I still have quite a few.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 8 месяцев назад
For screwdrivers I am spoiled by Klein. I do break them occasionally, but it’s usually because I’m doing something I knew I shouldn’t have been doing. Their #2 Phillips is actually very resilient and resists rounding better than most I’ve tried. Usually for a Phillips I end up using either the Klein or Lenox ratcheting screwdrivers with replaceable bits, though, since it is convenient but also gives me my common nut driver sizes.
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 6 месяцев назад
@@ColterBrog-- The Vaco line which is now part of Klein is excellent.
@Nick87899
@Nick87899 5 месяцев назад
The Western Forge are nice got a few vintage Craftsman WF that are just bulletproof
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 5 месяцев назад
I don’t have any left. Ended up breaking my last Proto.
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 6 месяцев назад
I like that term. That S-K would employ this scam is shocking. S-K used to be a professional quality brand. Putting the name on a consumer product devalues it. S-K is dead as a professional brand, except for vintage tools. They can't be trusted. I'm glad I bought a couple of Diamond adjustable wrenches when I did.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 6 месяцев назад
Well, it isn’t so much trusting S-K or not, as it is S-K as we knew it no longer exists. They got bought out by a Chinese firm, and now the Chinese are wearing the S-K name like a freakish skin suit to peddle their inferior tools.
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 6 месяцев назад
@@ColterBrog-- That's another way to put it.
@Bjm21703
@Bjm21703 8 месяцев назад
Gone are the days when a quality tool was in calloused hands. This world is so soft. Western Forge days are gone.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 7 месяцев назад
Fortunately there are still good wrenches out there. I am very impressed by the adjustables made by Irega in Spain. They have a long history of making wrenches, have excellent quality, and I’m happy to purchase well made products from other NATO countries as opposed to funneling even more money into the CCP.
@tcurrid8059
@tcurrid8059 9 месяцев назад
I 'collect' proto, mac and craftsman tools from Western Forge. Its very unfortunate that them dropping their contract with Sears lead to them both going out of business essentially. I mean Sears was headed that way anyways (there's still one open near me but its strangely empty, I can't believe its still open.) Specifically their adjustable wrenches are my favorites, though the satin chrome does chip relatively easy.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 9 месяцев назад
I loved my old Proto adjustables in black oxide finish. Really sturdy wrenches (same style as the old SK). I hate to admit it- but the US made SK wrench in this video is one of two I bought at the same time to the tune of over $100 for the pair. I don’t think I’ve used them more than once. The handle is narrow so it doesn’t distribute the load across my palm well, the jaws don’t open as wide as other wrenches of very comparable size, and they’re so expensive compared to other wrenches I like more that I subconsciously tend to guard them I think. The “Wright” branded black oxide finish wrench made by Irega in Spain is the one that tends to get put in my back pocket at the start of the day, and has seen by far the most use of any adjustable wrench I currently have in the toolbox. It feels good in the palm, has no plastic or rubber to worry about chemicals on, grips well because it doesn’t have slippery chrome, and if it gets a little surface rust I just clean it off with a stainless steel wire brush and a bit of oil. It has done well as far as toughness goes, but in the instances where an awkward angle has caused it to slip the jaws have not deformed. It still adjusts very smoothly.
@khiaraslaw
@khiaraslaw 7 месяцев назад
That counterfeit is/was in Lowes for 3 for 19.00 better quality than the one you have but very much the same but not the same quality of the past
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 7 месяцев назад
Good information, and that really emphasis the point so thank you for pointing it out. The trend is to take the cheap brand… then just slap a respected name on the same junk and charge more, to the detriment of the customer.
@Nick87899
@Nick87899 5 месяцев назад
Vintage SK was nice stuff, I’ve been buying Wright Tools for a few years best value for the money, Wrights adjustable are quality made in Spain by Irega afaik
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 5 месяцев назад
Wright is currently my go-to. As you said, made by Irega in Spain. Really nice adjustables.
@gmpny3945
@gmpny3945 10 месяцев назад
Very informative. Thank you. It's a shame SK is another sellout to China. I started buying USA made SK tools in the 1970s which I still have today. But I will not buy an SK tool made in China. I'd rather go to Harbor Freight and buy Taiwan made tools with a warranty at a fraction of the price.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 10 месяцев назад
I have another wrench video where I compare some of the brands available now, specifically including many of the more premium options. I’ll eventually do a follow-up video reviewing the wrenches after more use, but for now I’ll say the Wright brand 10” wrench (made in Spain by Irega) is my favorite. Very nice wrench so far.
@1morbidangel1
@1morbidangel1 Месяц назад
They call it “pro-Sumer” All the Taiwan tools that they are going to put in retail stores
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Месяц назад
I am usually happy with tools from Taiwan. GearWrench 120XP is one example. Best ratchet made, in my opinion. Now, Chinese tools, from the PRC… I don’t like their “business model”, and the tools have routinely been disappointing. I try to avoid those.
@1morbidangel1
@1morbidangel1 Месяц назад
I agree the stuff made in Taiwan isn’t bad stuff but it’s not the same professional grade tool truck quality that SK used to be known for
@JakePlisskin12
@JakePlisskin12 4 месяца назад
Apex tools the best. And yes proto williams. And i like cornwell.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 4 месяца назад
I haven’t tried Apex or Cornwell that I can recall. I do like Proto, Williams, and, as you’ve mentioned, Knipex. I like my Engineer screw extraction pliers from Japan. A couple tools out of Taiwan I really have come to like are the GearWrench 120XP 3/8” ratchet, and their sockets. Small head, fine ratcheting, strong, and relatively easy to disassemble for cleaning, lubrication, and rebuild kits are available if necessary. Along with that the Tekton open/box wrench sets in the Velcro closure rolls are really convenient and have held up very well for me over the past couple years. Since they’ve already seen heavy use and show some wear and tear I actually tend to grab them in favor of my newer Proto set.
@JakePlisskin12
@JakePlisskin12 4 месяца назад
@ColterBrog they use to sell tekton at miejers. I'm betting they don't anymore becuase people might think there some off brand. They didn't sell everything they made but they did have combo wrenches, also chrome and impact sockets. There really good stuff and the warranty process is crazy easy. Take a picture and they send you a new one. It's the same with sk. Easy. Granted you had to wait a couple days but I'm sure most people have something else that will do in the mean time. I really like the gear wrench ranching wrench too. Plus they sell them at home depot. So easy warranty. Which Husky impacts are really good too. I like there ratchets I have the black ones. Proto I don't think they warranty most stuff but alot of the times you won't need too. Apex stuff neither, never even broke one. ( it's not the apex they at home depot, although the parent company makes them). They are expensive. You know what there is so many companies out there that make top notch stuff. I guess it's what ever brand you think looks the best in your tool box. Haha. Yeah and Williams great stuff. Proto apex and Williams are what they use in factories so it's made to last.
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 4 месяца назад
@@JakePlisskin12Yeah, my day job is in industrial maintenance- this RU-vid stuff is just a hobby because I’m a gun and tool geek. We have a company-owned Williams impact socket that is probably getting close to 20 years old now. It just keeps getting passed down and passed around. It’s a big one, something like 2 1/4”. That thing has taken an absolute beating. For power tools I use Milwaukee almost exclusively. Lincoln has an excellent battery operated grease gun, though, so that’s the exception. I like quality tools but wouldn’t say I’m a snob. I have found certain brands that I’ve had good experiences with, but whoever has what I need and it works, I’m happy to use whatever.
@paintball130
@paintball130 Год назад
I've never been a big SK fan. I have some of the older SK-Wayne wrenches that i've gotten at flea markets that make for good beater wrenches, but their new stuff has always seemed way over priced for the quality you're getting. Its depressing seeing such an Iconic American brand go down the crapper
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog Год назад
I think my biggest complaint would be they haven’t innovated. A round head ratchet isn’t junk, but there are better options now. I love my GearWrench 120XP, and the GearWrench 90T is also a great workhorse.
@brianwittman5172
@brianwittman5172 4 месяца назад
@@ColterBrog The round-head ratchet is a workhorse of the industry. SK, shortly before they sold out to Greatstar, developed an 90 tooth, tear drop ratchet called the LP-90. It is very nice, but in a Snap-On design copy. If they would have kept the knurled handle and put the LP-90 head on it, they would have had something. I have used SK sockets for 40 years, and I have never broken a piece. I have a set of LP-90 ratchets, and like them, but still use the round-head as a go-to.
@DoctorMindbender
@DoctorMindbender 8 месяцев назад
Import is literally half the price. What were you expecting?
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 8 месяцев назад
Usually one would expect a brand with a reputation for quality to maintain that reputation. What we have now is names being bought out to peddle bargain basement junk at elevated prices until the wheels fall off the brand image… then the vultures move onto the next company to gut and pick the carcass clean. In this instance, it’s not even a US company moving production overseas. It’s a Chinese company buying up an American company, then selling junk under a familiar name. It’s more a commentary on modern business culture and practices than it is about these specific wrenches.
@DoctorMindbender
@DoctorMindbender 8 месяцев назад
@@ColterBrog It is competitive with other products at its price point and is in line with what a home user would expect. These are sold at Lowes, not off a tool truck.
@tedkenne
@tedkenne 11 месяцев назад
Have you been to WAL-MART Lately? All Kinds Of Corporate Counterfeiting. Selling Lesser Quality Name Brands Like LEE Jeans, REEBOK Athletic Wear Etc.. Name Brand Buy Out Selling To The Uninformed Public......What A Shame!!!
@ColterBrog
@ColterBrog 11 месяцев назад
It’s everywhere. Companies now are happy to slap their name on whatever junk they think someone will buy. It is tarnishing a lot of legacy brands.
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