Correct Arm Movement

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Should you pull straight back or should you move your hand in an S shape? We know the answer. We also know it’s going to help you swim faster. But this is a decades long debate. So, we have to explain this as best as we can to convince you to try it. You will probably love it, tell others about it and then they will tell you that you’re crazy. You’ll send them this video and the cycle will begin again. Soon we will all be swimming faster and with a safer technique for the shoulders.
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00:00 - The debate
01:23 - My experience
01:32 - The Best Swimmers do this
01:40 - Three problems with straight back
02:27 - S Pull
03:02 - Main focus
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@SkillsNT 2 года назад

Follow this video series in order: 1- Swim with LESS Effort: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Wm0kyjtmaE.html 2- Is it really easier to kick less?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GMuYSlli3io.html 3- The Most Important Body Part In Swimming: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CxhHPhKEtSI.html 4- The Speed is in Your Hands: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qnk_W5rzs2I.html 5- Correct Breathing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DuYAuj7DkUs.html 6- Correct Arm Movement: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-16mF-BUQRfI.html 7- How to swim faster: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2KhqIa5ates.html 8- Beautiful Freestyle is the last step: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mID8Mu1_nKQ.html 9- 5 months to swim 2.5 miles (From zero): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C0uBYuBmvw4.html 10- The easiest way to swim: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F7yP2bcoRgM.html

@robohippy 2 года назад

Well, still working on this and trying to figure it all out. Gary Hall Sr. just did one on his channel about keeping the pull more straight line. Funny thing I have noticed is that it seems to fit with freestyle, but not with my over arm side stroke. The 'why' part is confusing, so I have to guess. Best guess is that there is an optimal position for the arm to pull and engage all the proper muscles. If I pull straight through from hand entry, on freestyle, I actually end up pulling slightly across my body. What the little outsweep does is to move my arm pull more in line with my shoulder, which I guess is a more ergonomically correct position. This is a very small sweep action, and at the top of the pull before I get to the power phase and even slightly before getting the high elbow/vertical forearm. With my over arm side stroke, I am entering the water at an identical angle so the side sweep is not necessary to get to that optimal position. This makes me think that maybe we need to enter the water with the recover arm slightly wider than we tend to do, so not on or close to the center line. It is easy to feel if I am pulling too wide with the freestyle pull. Still working on that in sweep near the middle of the power part of the pull. Other than it is a 'feeling' that makes me go 'rotate your body', I can't tell that it does anything. After so many thousands of laps pulling straight through, it doesn't feel 'right'. Still working on it.

@fatiemahjhawnie8320 4 месяца назад

Mashaallha

@Anonimowany1 2 года назад

The thing is when you are applying your technique right, then the "S-Pull" happens naturally without you thinking about it. Ultimately its not the S-Pull you should focus on, because that will make your technique worse. You should focus on the right-technique itself that will naturally move your arms into the S-Pull itself anyway.

@JacobLP07 2 года назад

exactly how it should be explained.

@speedygonzales9993 Год назад

Yes, agree. It should come NATURALLY! For those beginner swimmers, if you can't do an S-Pull, it is all right, don't worry too much about it.

@fenpsn7866 Год назад

Yeah, aiming for a clean entry and a comfortable exit while kicking your legs correctly will mean s happens, and whatever happens is fine. I am not a fan of saying the other form is dangerous, its how we climb up ladders a straight pull. I am sure there are straight pull strokes that can be done just fine with focus on mobility and how you remove your hand to restart the stroke.

@beargrylls7399 Год назад

Yes, I agree too.

@suaraku2108 Год назад

You're right

@ryand5580 2 года назад

I swim all 4 strokes and watched many many videos. You are so far the best overall instructor. Most scientific and practical and thourough.

@cal2780 Год назад

I started swimming (after years of not swimming) in February. Freestyle always frustrated me. Breaststroke was always my favorite. Thanks for clear instructions! I've made corrections and can now swim a mile in less than an hour. I'm 71 and used to be a lifeguard at the Y. Swimming has become my bliss💖

@Utkarshzo98 Год назад

He really be saying A-Aron like the substitute teacher in all the videos 😂😂😂😂

@tom-qj6uw 3 месяца назад

Thought of the same video! Well, A-aron can't voice his displeasure here ...

@hillbillyrose6026 3 месяца назад

I understood his name to be A-Aron., not Aaron.@@tom-qj6uw

@Lucky008aau Год назад

Agreed. Too straight is uncomfortable, hard to do, and not faster. Too much "S" is too easy and you're not pulling enough water, instead you're going around it, avoiding it. There is an appropriate "S" based on your shoulder flexibility (your catch), strength in your pull (pecs, lats, triceps), and how much you rotate your body/hips side to side.

@chrishodgko2789 2 года назад

I was in an amateur swim club in the 90s and had an old school coach who taught the S. we used to smash so many competitive swim clubs at carnivals, so much faster than straight arm.

@georgeswashington9761 2 года назад

As a professionnal swimming teacher I always said the same. S is biomechanically induced by the way the catching elbow! Thankfully a great explanation!

@embersandash 2 года назад

This has been experience - the S is a product of the catch, rotation, and recovery.

@user-ul8ju4iy3f 3 месяца назад

분홍색 비키니 수영복 @@embersandash

@josiahpaulthompson 2 года назад

I love technical breakdowns like this. Many other channels appear out of their depth when compared to the clarity you provide.

@bluntandy 2 года назад

I learned in the 80s/90s I've been coaching since the early 2000s. I was taught the s pull but since then and exaggerated S causes too much drag. These days I advise using your hand to create force to go forwards. If you think you're pulling straight you're still doing a form of S pull but I feel teaching the s pull tends to make swimmers slower

@MrDrmes 2 года назад

Yes right. In my swimming school in 70s the coaches taught us to pull straight but reaching far forward when entering with the shoulder shrugs. I think we're still doing a little s pull any way

@coach_dellano 2 года назад

I agree with you. The “S” pull only shows a natural path our hands follow when we are pulling back and the relationship between our arm and torso changes along the way. If you teach people to force a S shape pull the effect is the opposite to the desired. Plus, nowadays the theory that has better support indicates that what generate propulsion is the difference of pressure between the back and front of the arm along the pull. So at the moment my position about this subject is that teaching the S pull is not didactic and the scientific support of it is outdated.

@lakebum Год назад

I think is a good virtual for beginners

@LowDownLuke 2 года назад

Damn, as an amature self taught swimmer my body intuitively wanted to do the S all along and I've been forcing myself into a straight pull back...finished 4.75km inthe pool today and my shoulders are wrecked from it. Cant wait to get back in the Pool and give them some natural motion!

@quake2u 2 года назад

I think this is natural because I do it, most free divers and people that love being in water do it.

@blessedwithchallenges9917 2 года назад

Me too.

@josimoes3288 2 года назад

I totally agree. Experts can shed a lot of light and improve sports BUT in the end nobody knows our body better them ourselves. We listen and learn but the final decision belongs to each of us.

@richardswaby6339 Год назад

Excuse me for being a pedant but the word is 'amateur'.

@josimoes3288 2 года назад

Wonderful videos. Thanks for posting this and many others. I particularly enjoy your technical videos with lots of slow takes and your arrows and swooshes. I am learning a lot and getting awesome comments at the pool from applying what you teach, they say I am a super smooth swimmer thanks to you.

@MeneerHerculePoirot Год назад

Have applied this new to me arm technique along with constantly tightened abs, glutes and one straight legged kick per stroke. Instead of a flutter kick from the knees. Once everything was in place and after a time settling into and coordinating all these new techniques the results have been substantial. I do a combination of breast and freestyle as follows: 60, 80, 100, 120 laps depending on time available. Respectively, my minutes have dropped to 47-52, 64-68, 89-94, 1:09-1:14. As a reference 100 laps used to take me 1:20-1:26. This is a result of just 2 videos in this series and applying what I've learned. It takes a while to coordinate everything, but once accomplished one's body can't go back to one's former inefficiency. It just feels wrong...because it IS. lol Keep in mind I'm self-taught by observation of others, asking for tips, watching videos and body awareness. Have been swimming laps since my late 20s on and off. Turned 70 this year and am swimming faster than ever in my life. Next I'm going to learn to do a flip-turn. 😎

@markgrenier6787 Год назад

Flip turns decrease lap swim by 17% it's just not swimming therefore not technique building...lol

@praveenakilambi8030 Год назад

Congratulations sir, I'm 68 yrs young and I was taught to swim with the s pull. Did it for many years. Loved it but then came along the straight pull and all athelic swimmers were showing it as faster and better. I'm happy my trainers were right the s pull is best.

@uuaydin 11 месяцев назад

@markgrenier6787 Ok guys stop doing flip turns coz mark says so

@martinknows Год назад

There is a wide variety of pull patterns among the greatest swimmers. From what I have observed. The most important thing is to feel the most resistance against the hand and forearm as possible. And then incrementally increase the effort/exertion against the water. The other important thing is to attempt to present the smallest surface area to the water , ie . streamline as much as possible. Keeping the entire body up close to the surface. And using rotation around the spinal axis to generate power.

@hugo2572 Год назад

Your videos are amazing. They're instructive, funny, and you're not trying to sell anything. Best swimming channel ❤️

@zazugee 2 года назад

i good analogy for me during pool sessions, was to do same movements when i try to pull myself over the pool wall's edge using my arms to push on wall you use your body weight and rely on the big muscles, that's the max force you can produce if you use same muscles in water, you never get tired if in fact since i did that, my underwater speed using frog kick became so fast, i could beat most people at the local pool by going underwater

@giorgospapazoglou6106 Год назад

I swim alone in the pool. No coach, just yt videos and practice. I was dragging straight (that's what I thought at least, as from the comments and the video it seems that you can't really drag straight) one day a guy saw me, around 40, a former swimming athlete from Belarus and he told me to drag with my arm and forearm at 60^o degrees angle and not drag straight. When I argued he told me "Imagine you are holding a rope and you want to drag something that's attached to the rope, how would you drag it?" Of course, it is better if you drag it with an S form than drag it straight. So I changed my style. It's not that I saw major differences. I still feel that I should drag straight though, it seems more simple to me.

@petar-boshnakov 2 года назад

This is unbelievable. Where was that video 3 years ago when I started and to this day I had it all wrong until the day before yesterday when I reached to this conclusion - after watching so many bad angle shot competitive swimmers. People never stop learning! Thank you! Golden!

@mohamedsaeed1938 2 года назад

Really , i felt much pain when was swimming with high elbow , conversely i felt it more natural while using s technique

@hamadalkhalifa2323 2 года назад

S is in fact high elbow.

@hamadalkhalifa2323 2 года назад

S is in fact high elbow.

@theethinethou 2 года назад

I’ve tried NOT to S pull but it feels forced and uncomfortable

@electricalychalanged4911 3 месяца назад

I learned in the 90s too in Germany but never heard any trainer teaching the streight pull. I was really surprised you were taught differently

@kaelart5876 Год назад

I’ve always been trying to keep my arm straight despite having low mobility. After 4 days of my swimming lessons i felt pain in my shoulder and i assume it’s an inflamed rotator cuff based on my own research. I realized that at the end of the day, listening to your body is the most important. Whenever i overthink the technique too much, it makes it worse for myself. Edit: spelling

@karry_unplugged5369 Год назад

You are so right

@rentoz Год назад

I happened to do that yesterday by mistake and noticed a huge change in effort and maybe speed by pulling my hand towards my body. But I have to learn not to forget to do it. Now that I know it is a thing I will keep practicing. Amazing videos!

@SkillsNT Год назад

Yes! Exactly! Keep going and experimenting

@arthur...barros 2 года назад

Thanks a lot coach, excellent video

@shanony6365 2 года назад

Thank you for researching and explaining. Subscribed

@robohippy 2 года назад

Well, I learned in the late 50's. We were taught to enter the hand wide, at about a 45 degree angle down, and do a big ( or arc shape pull. Missed out on the S shape pull, but one lap pal was saying to do a couple of S's during the pull. I always figured that part of the inevitable S came as part of the rotation, and happened naturally. I see many swimmers doing a small wiggle/S pull in the middle of their arm pull. I know that is not efficient. Some thing else to work on in the pool today....

@robohippy 2 года назад

Well, I do need to see the next video, when it is out. So, short course pool, yards, not meters, and 500 or more laps later, and I am not sure what is really going on. If I don't think about it, it kind of happens all by itself. I am trying to figure out why. I think we all know, that except for the Olympian men in the 50 meter sprint, we need a bend at the elbow, some where in the 120 degree range, between upper and lower arm. I seem to remember Katie Ledecky having almost a 90 degree bend in one arm when she swims. This is a more advantageous lever than straight arm, meaning more power with less work. I have noticed two ways that the elbow gets bent. One, the upper arm stays in line/elbow does not move, and the lower arm bends in towards the tummy, and this is the deeper S curve. The other way is when the arm bends, the elbow moves out laterally and the hand follows more of a straight path. Not sure that there is any mechanical advantage to either one. Another thing I have noticed, and this has to do with how we, in theory, want the hands to enter the water at 11 and 1 o'clock, but they generally enter the water much closer to the center line. I figure this is due to the shoulder rotation, which is in the 30 to 45 degree range. Hands still enter the water about at shoulder width, but because the shoulders are angled, hands appear to enter the water closer together because the body is not horizontal. As you start to pull, your shoulders rotate to horizontal, which kind of spreads your arms farther apart. This would or could give an optical illusion that the hand is pulling outwards, or at least, some of that outward pull is due to the shoulder rotation. The body rotation also contributes to the hand appearing to move more towards your tummy as your hip on that side rotates up near the finish part of the stroke. This is some what easier for me to play with when doing my over arm side stroke since I can focus on one side at a time. The breast stroke pull out is a total pull out slightly, then scoop in, and then push out the back side.

@robohippy 2 года назад

Still working on this..... It is almost like learning to swim all over again. Can't really notice any difference in speed, and the S pattern is highly variable since it isn't habit to the point where I don't have to think about it instead of having to totally focus on it with each stroke. I have figured out that the inward part of the S happens with the body rotation rotating from low side/pull to high side, finish/recover. Still thinking that it is part optical illusion, and part planned path...

@robohippy 2 года назад

Well, after playing around with this for a few months, I have gone back to the more straight arm pull path. It just feels better.

@SOBAINNA 2 года назад

Thank you, really needed this!

@SkillsNT 2 года назад

You're so welcome!

@piotrplewka 2 года назад

I am an amateur self thought swimmer and been pulling straight back since I started and when become stronger and better my shoulder quickly let me know that there's something im doing wrong. Watched few videos relating to swimmers shoulder and changed my pull-back technique to the one you are talking about and so far my sholder is perfectly fine.

@andyphillips7435 Год назад

I’m a self thought swimmer as well. Can’t swim but certainly think about it a lot.

@TheKwadriga Год назад

I noticed the movements of my hand under water when I was swimming with paddles. I noticed that the movement is different from what I do when I swim without shoulder blades: the palm goes closer to the body and closer to the midline. I tried to fix this and row the same way as I used to row without paddles - straight back. And this movement with the shoulder blades turned out to be uncomfortable, and besides, after that, my left shoulder hurt for 2 days. That's why I think the S-shaped movement is more natural, it's just that when you swim without paddles, you don't notice it...

@glenngoysens8372 2 года назад

Curious about the shoulders shrug in the next video ! I'm a new swimmer with a tendency to shrug my shoulders when swimming. Focusing on not doing that took a lot of the strain off my shoulders.

@susheelagupta2331 2 года назад

Thank you, very useful video and needed one

@albertomuitofixolas3192 2 года назад

Hi, I recommend you get familiar with the concept of tensegrity (if you haven't already) it is a great change in biomechanics and I think knowing about it would benefit the way we look at swimming. Thanks!

@nikosu5912 2 года назад

Love these videos, keep it up!

@alicew7045 2 года назад

Good video. Thanks Coach!

@user-ed7wi6xn5n Год назад

Your videos of an outstanding quality! Awesome job!

@jackstoolreviews1519 Год назад

I love your videos! I can’t help but chuckle about your pronunciation of the name Aaron though 😂. Key and Peele did a whole sketch on mispronunciation of names. Hope you see it and get a good laugh in too 😊 Thanks for putting these educational videos on technique out there!! I’m new to swimming, and this is super helpful.

@FUFUFUFPV Год назад

Never even liked swimming until I bumped onto your content. Big thanks.

@Cachoeira1986 Год назад

Thank Skill N'Talents!!!! You answered one of my biggest question about swimming, Sir. Have a great weekend 🏊‍♂

@SkillsNT Год назад

Happy to help!

@skywind1403 2 года назад

This is what I've been waiting for. Thanks for this wonderful information. That's why I subscribed all my Gmail accounts to this channel.

@mayonna7080 2 года назад

I try to emulate this pattern. It works. U r the best dude

@charlesbromberick4247 2 года назад

thanks - I always wondered about that.

@Hastagnatacao 2 года назад

I talked about it on my channel two weeks ago, but you can always explain things in detail! congratulations on the video!!

@freddyray629 9 месяцев назад

Mostly focus on the hip driven kick rotation, and just a minimum focus on the S shape until it fixes in your movement, after a while the S shape will come naturally.

@iteach2swim379 2 года назад

I learned to swim technically in the 80's, only with James Counsilman's book....and it was good and motivating !

@Cichlidroid 2 года назад

Thx coach🙌🏼

@Aru_2019 2 года назад

hello coach, @2:30 "At the end of the stroke, they also use their lats to bring their bent elbow close to the body and get it out quickly" ---- isn't this squeeze happening right after arm is passing the shoulder line instead of at the end of stroke?

@ahmedzakaria1875 2 года назад

Good thanks 😊

@peterliljebladh 2 года назад

Turns out I was right from the beginning on my own. Naturally doing an s-shape to slow the stroke count down.

@edwarding4355 2 года назад

I came to the conclusion myself also when it felt neurologically tiring and impossible to maintain a straight pull. Your limbs are attached at joints as points and your limb motions are all a combination of arcs around these points. A straight pull fights your body's biomechanics.

@justinlim9626 2 года назад

Good video, my coach always tells to row my arms straight down but when I watch Olympians swim they do the swirly stuff. I can't really do the swirly movement long distance cause I notice my arms get tired fast when I do that but I think that's only me. Anyways great video I was always curious on this.

@yurykot9385 2 года назад

thanks a lot!!!

@allezvenga7617 2 года назад

Thanks for your sharing

@SkillsNT 2 года назад

My pleasure

@chatbud 2 года назад

Pls do a similar one for backstroke!

@gianoliveira7461 2 года назад

Sheila's book is the best! Great video!

@jackmasonen 11 месяцев назад

Agreed. Long time ago, I converted from straight pull to S-pull, and never look back.

@elonmusk699 2 года назад

Thank you

@NealosMetropolos 2 месяца назад

Small s-shape combined with correct body rotation results in straight arm path relative to the black line.

@viking6246 2 года назад

Thank you for the tips. 💖 🇱🇰

@sandipsheta19 9 месяцев назад

Nice information

@omarihab4569 9 месяцев назад

We need a seperate video for 50m sprinters or a video on the deep surf catch/straight arm pull

@CESAR-io6ob 15 дней назад

This video is awesome! Muchas gracias hermano. Except for hearing A-arooon a lot. 😬

@CaneSugarCane 2 года назад

Looking forward to the next video as always! 🙌🏾

@SkillsNT 2 года назад

Coming soon!

@user-cs4bt3cx5d 2 года назад

@@SkillsNT how to make your breath right in the crawl so that one eye is in the water? I need some exercise

@joshlyanneubu924 2 года назад

Not sure which one is correct coz some coach says otherwise but I want to protect my shoulder. How about flexibility and body rotation when doing straight back? Of coz I wouldn't dare to do windmill..m not an Olympic swimmer who has good mobility and flexibility

@robohippy 2 года назад

Well, some many miles and laps later, I am still not convinced that either method has any advantage. I will stick with the slight outsweep coming from the shoulders being rotated when the recover hand enters the water, so your hands are pretty close to that center line rather than at 11 and 1 o'clock. I figure best angle for the arms to pull would be in the super man position, so that is why there is a slight outsweep. Not sure why this seems to be necessary in the fly though. As for the curve inwards, in watching countless freestyle videos, and people in my pool, it seems that some move the elbow outwards to get the arm bend, and some keep the elbow in closer to the body so the hand moves more in towards the body center line. I still don't see any advantage to either method. When I swim freestyle, I tend to move my elbow out more, but when swimming my over arm side stroke, I can't move my elbow away from my body since my elbow would be coming out of the water. The finish part of the arm pull remains identical.

@Skandalos 2 года назад

Way more interesting than the shape of the pull i always found the depths of the pull. How deep should the hands go? Closely along the body? Deep down? Somewhere in between?

@OneAdam12Adam 10 месяцев назад

It's great to see the techniques we used in the 70s and 80s are being used again. Please emphasize after workout stretching. Still not done enough.

@YoussefCherqaoui 2 года назад

You Done Messed Up A-Aron! I love it

@xuchenglin6256 2 года назад

I'm another victim of the "straight pull" myth. Yet just discovered that the straight pull is not mechanically possible. During the first half of the stroke, with a perfect EVF, the whole arm is actually like a beam compass ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_compass ), body is the center, the forearm is the pen, and the upper arm is the beam. The only possible route to push back, is a circle. If you try to force a straight route, it's either going deep into a straight arm deep pull (beam spin downwards), or prematurely lift the elbow (beam spin upwards, actually "dropped elbow" in swimming, with a much shorter path and can't exert force). Unfortunately neither of that is ergonomically/mechanically efficient. Thank you to speak it out. Hope this analogy/explanation helps.

@rogerverwey966 2 года назад

Love it! I’m guessing the two computer simulations A-a-ron and Bel-a-ke are both from the inner city. When is their friend Ja-queline going to make an appearance?

@Krishways55 6 месяцев назад

Thanks buddy 🤝😊

@SkillsNT 6 месяцев назад

Welcome 👍

@Krishways55 6 месяцев назад

@@SkillsNT stay safe healthy strong and keep smiling always 🤝😊

@mahmoudabouhager 2 года назад

how is it done in butterfly?

@derincosguner3050 2 года назад

Good video!

@dysob4119 2 года назад

Ur swiming dab is amazing

@alicew8760 2 года назад

So I’m not a big fan of wide S. And I think a narrow S is a natural thing

@Ivadasmr 2 года назад

Im an amateur swimmer and a couple days ago my coach told me to do the straight arm motion and I was using a boey in between my legs to only use my arms. Ended up getting a slightly injury on my shoulder from it. Idk how to tell him that his technique is wrong now lol

@eduardocavanagh 2 года назад

Both are correct and simultaneous: from the body reference system point of view, the arm does the S shape naturally, because of the rotation of the body and the catch, subsequent high elbow position, etc.. From the water or swimming pool reference system point of view, the hand moves in a quasi straight line.

@omarihab4569 10 месяцев назад

Can we get a video about the straight arm pull (deep pull)

@TruePhil 2 месяца назад

1. s pull better. 2. bent elbow 3. wide pull bad, not using pecs and lats 4. keep vertical hand and forearm when pulling 5. anchor forearm and hand as pulling. catch a little wider and pull elbow in keep shoulder shrug at begining

@ngdawgs1 2 года назад

A-Aron 🤣🥳!! Thanks for all the great vids.

@davebaker8362 Год назад

Hi does this apply to butterfly

@Jupe367 7 месяцев назад

My arm has a natural “s” pull movement but I always thought it is wrong because of the way the pull feels. I try to change it to do a straight pull because I always thought that is the correct way. Watching this makes me realize that I was doing it correctly the entire time and didn’t realize it.

@florameng521 2 года назад

I’ve never seen how I swim but I notice I always pull the arm towards my belly and then push to the side , it’s definitely a S , by doing this , my shoulders feel better , I don’t have enough strength to do a straight pull anyhow .

@juanpablovargascardona1370 2 года назад

Escuchar sus observaciones así como poder ver las simulaciones en los videos, son ambas muy importante. Por ésto, preferiría poder escucharlas en español.

@SkillsNT 2 года назад

En nuestro canal en español se puede escuchar en español 😁

@juanpablovargascardona1370 2 года назад

@@SkillsNT Muchas gracias ¡! 😊

@company3076 2 года назад

Отличное видео!

@zulkifalahmad2347 9 месяцев назад

I an A aron. But a bit behind , still working on my legs

@jawshua100 Год назад

Hard to understand this S curve. If rotate the shoulder slight wouldn't it help to protect the shoulder unless u pull straight and the shoulder is flat?

@malgorzatachp 7 месяцев назад

That's how I've been tought to swim in 2000'!

@yannicksarton4686 2 года назад

Brillant video

@Couchtotriathlete 5 месяцев назад

Tried the s pull today and feels like I can push myself a little further!

@sandyhossman7771 2 года назад

Taught in the 60s to use the S pull. Anytime I don't I have shoulder pain and I feel like I am fighting the water

@inz_uzi 2 года назад

What about Be-la-ke? Does he do the S-shaped stroke to?

@xpearrow5697 Год назад

Thats why we do diving we do S form in below the water

@vLef1 2 года назад

This video is exactly what I was searching for yesterday

@eseniabushmina5873 2 года назад

Sammeee

@TheVosseler 2 года назад

très bien

@mariustresorus942 2 года назад

HELP ! Do you think doing the S can lead to tennis elbow ? I was loving it but I can’t swim any more because of that since 10 years ! I’m 54. (One tennis elbow at each arm…)

@pdigirol1 6 месяцев назад

Distance per stroke along with rate of stroke will determine overall speed. Good swimmers tend to have arms appear to move slower than weaker swimmers though their body is mover faster. They make it look easier because they are more efficient. The perfect race is swum one perfect stroke at a time!

@mariano_353 Год назад

Wow... It is indeed a matter of debate... Found this video while searching for straight vs S after reading the first chapter of "science of swimming faster" where they favor straight pull because it generates up to 18% more thrust. Don't know what to do now. Gonna have to try the straight pull to see if I swim faster.

@SkillsNT Год назад

Try both. I have read that book too but they don't consider the anatomy of humans. Even the people who try to do straight arm do the S shape pull. But also exaggerating an S motion is not good. Ultimately, how much of an S you do will depend on your level of shoulder mobility and strength

@mariano_353 Год назад

@@SkillsNT I think you're right. Gonna do just that and try to time the results so I get an objective comparison. Thank you for your time and your channel. Very valuable and rigorous info

@amirpanahi7653 10 месяцев назад

So which one is better?

@vuthanhtruong6327 Год назад

I think it’s depends on the distance ! For 100m you can use straight pull and for longer distance you can apply S pull.

@puma7171 10 месяцев назад

Totally agree. In my experience, swim form must change with different speeds, depending on how much energy you need to spend.

@user-sd1tf1dn2n 7 месяцев назад

Depends on push up

@marshallnongbet7752 Год назад

The whole body movement is difference from one person to another, if it is dancing, karate, boxing, gymnastic, or etc. It depends

@alicew8760 2 года назад

Don’t do the S pull on purpose. If you pull your arm, it comes a curve naturally. It’s not possible the arm draws a straight line when pull your arm.

@alicew7045 2 года назад

So I'm not a fan of wide S, and I think a narrow S is a natural thing

@speedo1105 2 года назад

i tend to agree with you. years ago we were taught to find the still water for your catch............im[possible. there is no STILL water in a pool or ocean or lake etc. i was in that controversy in 1970-71n as a graduate student at springfield college. the war between counsilman ansd red sylvia was a bit of an ego thing. of course they taught the sylvia theory... the S pull which takes into consideration lifting forces, a bit, finding the place where slippage or massaging the water is minimal, and of course protecting your shoulders.

@alicew7045 2 года назад

Thank you for the comment

@speedo1105 2 года назад

@@alicew7045 the wider you go, the morethe shoulders rebel.

@wordupmybrotha 2 года назад

I agree. The mindset should be to pull straight in order to avoid pointing the hand outward during the catch and the "S" happens naturally when we squeeze the elbow close to the body during the power phase.