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Cortés Meets Montezuma // Cortés' letters // 8th November 1519 

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In the early Sixteenth Century a force of hundreds overcame an empire of millions.
This is the story of one of the most momentous events of the Spanish Conquest of the Aztec Empire - the meeting of Spanish leader Hernán Cortés, an obscure career soldier from the Castilian badlands, and Montezuma, the ruler of the Aztec Triple Alliance, a man revered as a god upon earth by his millions of subjects.
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@12345678900987659101
@12345678900987659101 5 лет назад
I am sure the Spanish and Aztecs will have excellent relations lasting centuries.
@giovannithiene8744
@giovannithiene8744 5 лет назад
flyingkoopa45 me too
@tacleohjoe7577
@tacleohjoe7577 5 лет назад
Uh-oh
@northwest2647
@northwest2647 5 лет назад
ya they banged each other and it worked out.
@johnjoiner8102
@johnjoiner8102 5 лет назад
Mojados still worship any European lineage they may have.
@dasherhunter434
@dasherhunter434 5 лет назад
Caesers Legion you loveeeee it
@jacobvanderhoeven1008
@jacobvanderhoeven1008 5 лет назад
Interesting he calls their temples mosques
@rodolfogonzalez724
@rodolfogonzalez724 5 лет назад
Thats because it was a term used by Cortés to describe the temples. It was, anyway a document redactes by either Cortés o Diaz del Castillo to explain the new world to an spanish audience
@CaptainHaddocck
@CaptainHaddocck 5 лет назад
Wrong. The spanish had just ended the Reconqista a few decades ago and had been used to fighting savages for centuries. The name mosque were just the name for non Christian religious buildings.
@derrengui
@derrengui 5 лет назад
It was the easiest way to explain to his compatriots back in Spain that the temples were dedicated to false gods
@MrJethroha
@MrJethroha 5 лет назад
The idea that the new world was connected to Asia somehow had not yet been totally dispelled by Cortez's time, and the Portugese had reported that there were Muslims in the East Indies by this point. Magellan's voyage (sans the explorer himself of course) wouldn't definitely prove that America and Asia were different continents until 1522. Amerigo Vespucchi had theorized this earlier, but most cartographers continued making rather ridiculous maps with no pacific ocean until Magellan's crew told them their captain had died in it.
@morgott13
@morgott13 5 лет назад
@Scott Levy savages is an accurate descriptor. they were literally practicing human sacrifice. candy coating it is just subversive.
@thebrocialist8300
@thebrocialist8300 5 лет назад
“Spanish or Vanish.” -Hernando Cortes
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 лет назад
It's usually rendered as Hernán, although it is the same name as Hernando.
@thebrocialist8300
@thebrocialist8300 5 лет назад
Luis Aldamiz 🤫
@bertilfaux4194
@bertilfaux4194 5 лет назад
He was a badass. I don't care what anybody says.
@alex-qh9ds
@alex-qh9ds 5 лет назад
"Both" -Montezuma
@Blackknight1212
@Blackknight1212 5 лет назад
@@bertilfaux4194 he was a pussy and died a miserable loser. God knew he was a piece of shit and thats why he got what he deserved in the end. Thats also why Spain is a shit hole now and constantly going bankrupt.
@FakeSugarVillain
@FakeSugarVillain 5 лет назад
When Cortez describes what Moctezuma said sounded like a line from a sonic fanfiction "And then Sonic came to me and said, all of my things are yours and I'm your servant"
@DoctorM42
@DoctorM42 4 года назад
To be fair Montezuma had armies of all the tribes he pissed off (which is ALL OF THEM) on his border, rallying behind Cortez, no wonder he was ready to give up everything and tell anything to save his life.
@ericspencer8093
@ericspencer8093 4 года назад
@@DoctorM42 No, Moctezuma was speaking of an Aztec prophesy, which foretold that their chief god would one day return from the east. He believed that the Spanish were fulfillment of that prophesy, and that Cortes was a representative sent by the god.
@skyworm8006
@skyworm8006 4 года назад
@@ericspencer8093 There are two layers to this, culture and hard politics. It's likely he intended to strike back or carve out a place for himself afterwards and only did this to buy time, later betraying Cortes. His native opponents would eventually take him down with or without the Spaniards and with the Spaniards' arrival it gave his opponents the perfect person to rally behind.
@karebear9230
@karebear9230 4 года назад
Kind of like the U.S now, the world is tired of U.S dominance how history repeats itself.
@danimotherofchickens479
@danimotherofchickens479 3 года назад
Steel King Benjamin it was their prophesy though, that they came from another land to Mexico and someday the one who fled would come back. So it was quite the coincidence. The Aztec account is similar in that regards that they thought it was a long lost ruler returning.
@Stupoider
@Stupoider 5 лет назад
Cortes: It's free real estate
@vinny9868
@vinny9868 4 года назад
Montezuma: It's free real estate. Cortes: Stonks
@user-uw3fi2zg4t
@user-uw3fi2zg4t 4 года назад
@biggs949597 s stop talking as we and they, this was 500 years ago and most probably you are not cortez descendant, get over it
@darealmvp1977
@darealmvp1977 4 года назад
@biggs949597 s he conquered with the help of many of the aztecs rivals and states that hated paying them tribute. Ur a fool if u think he did it with only Spanish muscle. Plus theres others like the yaqui and chichimeca(and others) who were never conquered by the Spanish and so a truce had to be done. In some respects Cortez is like hitler. Some love him and others dont but both carried great acts of violence during their respective time
@darealmvp1977
@darealmvp1977 4 года назад
@biggs949597 s it was ballsy but the help he received from the multiple rival groups cannot be understated. It was probably the most critical reason his invasion was successful. Also, Motecuzoma being superstitious and his belief in the Spaniards as gods also screwed the Mexicas.
@tiny2315
@tiny2315 4 года назад
biggs949597 s I’m *Astonished* something like your comment is so upvoted, you went full Nazii... maybe thats the demographics of this channel, sad.
@zhbvenkhoReload
@zhbvenkhoReload 4 года назад
You keep putting images of palm trees, but that region has pine trees... Lol
@christianpotter164
@christianpotter164 4 года назад
zhbvenkhoReload got em
@DavidHernandez-oz4me
@DavidHernandez-oz4me 4 года назад
Yes its was forests and lakes
@0x0404
@0x0404 4 года назад
That is a good interesting detail that is fairly important actually. Especially for something history focused.
@Ernireg3
@Ernireg3 4 года назад
I’m no expert but it may be because of the discovery of the new world in the Caribbean in 1492.
@mr3366
@mr3366 4 года назад
Talk about giving the kingdom away. Cortez must of been salivating hearing this and trying to stay composed
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 4 года назад
I'm sure he was. He was being pursued by the Spanish authorities and trying to figure out how to entrench himself and now had the opportunity to present them with whole empire on a silver plate.
@Gerald.69
@Gerald.69 2 года назад
Love to see all the keyboard historians in the comments debating a first hand account of the person who was there. Lol.
@vitabricksnailslime8273
@vitabricksnailslime8273 4 года назад
This must surely rank as one of the most self serving accounts of all time.
@ralphtroan
@ralphtroan 4 года назад
Yes, rank it is. History is written by the victors. Good historians don't just accept what is written but dig deeper. This sweet-sounding acount reeks of cultural propanganda, and is based on just enough snippets of actual events to seem true. It's just a story, that's all. Good idea not to just believe anything you hear because it sounds good. Graham Hancock wrote a series of books --War God-- on the clash of the cultures and ensuing disaster for the native peoples of what is now Mexico and surrounding areas. He researched well and wrote a fictional story that resounds with more 'truth' than this glamorized account. Apparently there were close to 30,000,000 inhabitants in that rich land when the Spanish arrived. Twenty years later approximately 90% were wiped out by disease and thousands were enslaved. . .I've read that in a number of books, so I can't verify it personally, but you can check for yourself. That's my two cents worth for now. . .
@goodaimshield1115
@goodaimshield1115 4 года назад
Actually, no. Aztec version is quite similar, though of course it does talk about moctezuma's secret intentions to lure the Spaniards (possible enemies) close. Better keep your enemies close so you can control them and see what they're doing. But obviously, Spaniards wouldn't know about it.
@islandnites
@islandnites 4 года назад
When _The Epic Loosers_ are introduced to us in few short months - we will find ourselves in the shoes of Montezuma and the Aztec people of antiquity. Will we behave as they did in that time? Will we have learned a valuable lesson from history?
@qus.9617
@qus.9617 4 года назад
Let's be honest here. When it comes to Spanish accounts of the Mexica, Inca, Maya we are *never* going to get an honest account. To make things worst, they burned down all their written documents, basked in the glory of their conquest and near virtual annihilation of their culture. In this context, Cortes was an expert of law so expect him to lawyer himself up plenty to write up the best version of history to present to the King and the Spanish people all perfectly as 'legal' as possible.
@user-uw3fi2zg4t
@user-uw3fi2zg4t 4 года назад
Good he burned all that crap that made people superstitious and willing to make human sacrifices
@tumblrcat7256
@tumblrcat7256 4 года назад
Why does Montezuma look white in every pic I see of him isn’t he Native American
@abrahkadabra9501
@abrahkadabra9501 3 года назад
Montezuma's account to Cortez about the origin of the Aztec gives some weight to the Atlantis theory IMO. The Greeks chronicled stories from the Egyptians that they were descendants of an great island civilization who fled because of an earthquake that destroyed their home. The Aztecs and the Egyptians had many similarities but the most prominent one was the building of four sided pyramids. I'm definitely not an expert on this subject so don't go crazy if I've got a detail out of place and I'm aware of the controversy of the Atlantis theory regarding the Egyptians and Aztecs.
@markhedger6378
@markhedger6378 4 года назад
Read Cortez and Montezuma ,the description of the battle at the end is terrifying!
@teambridgebsc691
@teambridgebsc691 2 года назад
Cortés made it up for Spanish ears, you think?
@Jay121
@Jay121 5 лет назад
More, please.
@kaashee
@kaashee 4 года назад
Are we sure they let them just have everything? I smell A rat
@EtownSosa
@EtownSosa 2 года назад
My last name is Cortes and my family is from Jalisco Mexico
@degrelleholt6314
@degrelleholt6314 4 года назад
This part of history is fascinating so much more so because we do not know precisely the events and motivations. I am sure there is some truth in the letter of Cortes to the Spanish King Charles, but I often wonder how much was distortion, ambiguity, and lies. Cortes's translator Malintzin (or whatever her real name was) is often considered suspect in her translating of Nahuatl. The language of the royal court, I believe, was rather different than Nahuatl spoken commonly. And Cortes himself is hardly above suspicion.
@crimson1453
@crimson1453 3 года назад
You can read the Aztec account on this matter and it's pretty similar how the story goes.
@englishgrammar3298
@englishgrammar3298 8 месяцев назад
Kings Charles V was not the King of Spain! No, he was the Roman, or Holy Roman, Emperor. Charles V was born and lived most of his life, in Belgium. He ruled Mexico and Spain, and the rest of the Roman Empire, from his grand palace in Brussels, the Palace of Coudenberg. Spain was just another lowly province, or colony, of his Roman Empire, where he happened to retire to, and where he died.
@terryfuldsgaming7995
@terryfuldsgaming7995 4 года назад
Funny how nothing has really changed since the start of recorded history. We just have fancier toys now.
@ratatoskr1069
@ratatoskr1069 4 года назад
"Nothing has changed" you clearly have no idea how life used to be like.
@Vercingetorix.Fantasia
@Vercingetorix.Fantasia 4 года назад
The Spanish just so happened to fulfill a prophecy the Aztecs were waiting for. A light skinned ruler would show up for them. It's unfortunate that they trusted the Spaniards in this way
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 4 года назад
They did not trust the Spanish. The Spanish had amassed a large allied army and had just stomped over several Aztec vassals. Several countries in Europe also immediately surrendered to Hitler as they knew a war was futile. Moctezuma was likely following the age old maxim of keep your friends close and your enemies closer. And the Spanish did not trust the Aztecs either or entirely believe Moctezuma's story, regardless of what they optimistically reported to the Spanish crown - they suspected they were plotting to assassinate them. That's why things went south very quickly.
@wellimeantosaywhat
@wellimeantosaywhat 4 года назад
I always wonder how long it would have taken them to establish a functional basis of communication. There would be no interpreters, no lingua franca to rely on, nothing.
@cpmenninga
@cpmenninga 4 года назад
From the start, he had two interpreters. Aguilar, a Spanish castaway who learned Mayan. And marina, Cortés’ slave who spoke Mayan and Nahuatl, the language of the Aztecs. Once marina learned Spanish, she became his sole interpreter. She also had kids with Cortés.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 4 года назад
The Spanish intermarried pretty readily with native people. Aguilar was one of the two castaways who had become integrated into a Mayan village. The other was so integrated that he refused to go with Cortés, complaining that with his facial markings and ear piercings he wouldn't be accepted anymore by the Spanish, and preferred to stay with his Mayan wife and children. Also, priests were generally pretty persistent about learning new languages as their primary goal was to evangelize and translate the Christian bible. Within a few decades of contact you often found priests all over the place.
@wellimeantosaywhat
@wellimeantosaywhat 4 года назад
@@mikicerise6250 thank you for your reply, that is fascinating!
@spg1794
@spg1794 4 года назад
A totally convenient story to be told by a conqueror. Nobody knows what actually transpired between the two of them, but id bet anything it wasnt anything like that. Im going to go with Bullshit
@johndavenport8843
@johndavenport8843 Год назад
I am highly disappointed that no dancing girls were offered. Surely this, and not some lust for gold, is what brought about the downfall.
@wasyertakeawaythaturmadeofcorn
@wasyertakeawaythaturmadeofcorn 5 месяцев назад
What a horribly frustrating thing to watch. People try to call folks crack pots for saying things like "There's pineapples in art because people used to go to the Americas" or "King David (I think) used to go to the Americas." Cortes is saying Montezuma said he and his people ARE the foreigners that mated with the natives... This isn't the first time this channel has provided me with a "Why is this a thing to argue about? It's written down!!" moment, but this has to be one of the worst. I want a video with all the writings of that Padre who let me know pozole used to be people soup. (Sorry, I, apparently, think I'm at the drive thru..) The native (Peru?) did not tell the Padre that the viracocha who saved them from underground... told them to do this. Only that upon his departure to the north (that's why I call THAT one Santa) they started making statues of him "OK," killing their enemies"...hmm O..K?" oh and then we make soup out of them "..." (I'm not sure if those responses are mine or a very, very sad Santa viracocha.)
@hscollier
@hscollier 4 года назад
The winners right the history.
@dman7425
@dman7425 4 года назад
How little we truly know.
@elely1973
@elely1973 4 года назад
Several natives of all the Americas have a similar story about a visitor from a far land with different skin and teaching them and telling them that there will come a day when he will return and be the King of Kings...he didnt say he will come and kill them with diseases and steal from them.
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 3 года назад
You misspelled Moteczuma. You obviously didn't watch your own video, as it is written on one of the paintings.
@edeliteedelite1961
@edeliteedelite1961 2 года назад
You also misspelled it. It is Moctezuma. Montezuma is the americanized version.
@T25de
@T25de 5 лет назад
Now THAT is Southern Hospitality
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 5 лет назад
y'all come back now yer hear.
@oghaki5097
@oghaki5097 4 года назад
lolol
@T25de
@T25de 4 года назад
Remember how they brought those germ blankets? Remember how germ theory wasn’t invented yet 😃
@BodywiseMustard
@BodywiseMustard 4 года назад
@@T25de Completely out of place comment you made, and you're also a complete idiot. Just because individual germs weren't known about, diseases were definitely known
@T25de
@T25de 4 года назад
David Hillman No u
@sambland3903
@sambland3903 4 года назад
Montezuma: we think you were sent by God. Cortez: Yes.
@sambland3903
@sambland3903 4 года назад
@John Newman That doesn't detract from the irony.
@Cassiuswasright
@Cassiuswasright 4 года назад
@John Newman source please? I just finished listening to a lecture series on pre columbian mexico and the myth of the feathered serpent and a conqueror who sailed to the west and vowed to return was discussed, obviously "they thought they were gods lol" is an exaggeration but the aztecs certainly had an apocalyptic prophecy involving someone coming from the west, plus aztec scholars pre-cortez were already writing about how the prophecied end time was coming up.
@jamesburke1039
@jamesburke1039 3 года назад
It's a myth invented a century after the event. There's no proof Aztecs believed in deities that took on human form.
@adrean3693
@adrean3693 3 года назад
😂😂
@bubasingh4680
@bubasingh4680 3 года назад
Montezuma would have known the difference. He was a man of wisdom, fully enlightened. Do you really think he would have actually made such a mistake? Montezuma was more a god than Cortez rarely even bathed
@Locedamius
@Locedamius 4 года назад
Sounds like Montezuma really wanted the Spanish on his side in the upcoming war.
@heinuchung8680
@heinuchung8680 4 года назад
Big mistake lol
@dickbison
@dickbison 4 года назад
@@heinuchung8680 It would work if one of his own people didn't kill him with a rock
@sebastiant.3588
@sebastiant.3588 4 года назад
He was scared to death about losing His throne
@assassinaria
@assassinaria 4 года назад
They were all fucked from day 1 lol. If I went back in time to the Aztec lands with a bulletproof vest and a handful of men with guns, I'd definitely take over too. It would be easy to tempt anyone with that sort of power.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 4 года назад
D. Francisco de Almeida was a veteran Conqueror in several wars against the Muslims, yet a small engagement with KhoiKhoi ended with his death. Never underestimate the power of fire-hardened sticks!
@censusgary
@censusgary 5 лет назад
Cortes wrote that Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital, was as great and fine as any city in Europe of the time (about 1520).
@cv4809
@cv4809 4 года назад
@@floydlechner2445 yes, Europe needs to be purified once again
@JamesTaylor-on9nz
@JamesTaylor-on9nz 4 года назад
@@floydlechner2445 I like the way you think
@mike_nolan
@mike_nolan 4 года назад
@@floydlechner2445 I bet you would quiver and piss yourself should such conflicts arise again
@asteroidkatfacts1036
@asteroidkatfacts1036 4 года назад
It was better than Europe in everyday specially cleaner
@asteroidkatfacts1036
@asteroidkatfacts1036 4 года назад
ETB Agreed. Norse, Celts, and Romans all committed human sacrifice.
@while.coyote
@while.coyote 5 лет назад
I suspect Montezuma said something completely different than what he thinks he said.
@vinny9868
@vinny9868 4 года назад
It is said that it was all metaphorical and he just tried to be a good host, but Cortes took him literally and just accepted the fact that he is not the man of gold nor is the city made of gold. Instead, they were all made subjects of the Spanish empire.
@mcdoogs3037
@mcdoogs3037 4 года назад
Actually, Nahuatl, had a reverential mode in its language. The speaker is often obliged to say the opposite of what is really meant. Montezuma would speak in code, which is cultural tradition in which the powerful projected their status through elaborate false humility. So Montezuma would speak of himself as small and weak, to draw attention that he is esteemed and powerful. This whole scenario was an actual draw of his own power
@sonnyocad287
@sonnyocad287 4 года назад
@@mcdoogs3037 That sounds interesting. Is there a video or article you can recommend on the subject?
@programSense
@programSense 4 года назад
@Alex F The Broken Spears book is a good start.
@The_Crimson_Fucker
@The_Crimson_Fucker 4 года назад
@@mcdoogs3037 There's a video on this exact channel where it details how the Aztecs initially thought the Spaniards were gods.
@dsala2614
@dsala2614 5 лет назад
MONTEZUMA SHOULD HAVE BUILT A HUGE WALL...
@deanbuss1678
@deanbuss1678 5 лет назад
Bigly
@ebervaliusahau2289
@ebervaliusahau2289 5 лет назад
Indeed he should've
@Popperite
@Popperite 5 лет назад
And Mexico would indeed have paid for it.
@strongback6550
@strongback6550 5 лет назад
Orange man bad
@N.Jordan3579
@N.Jordan3579 5 лет назад
And Spain would pay for it 😂😂😂😂😂 #Mexicans keeping the Spanish out
@feral7523
@feral7523 5 лет назад
Bit similar to Caeser saying the Gauls 'Invited' him into Gaul!!
@Drobexxx
@Drobexxx 5 лет назад
He very clearly says that he helped an allied Celtic population (of which I don't remember the name) to repel another population from Helvetia who was migrating through their territory. If I recall correctly that population was allied to a Germanic tribe (the Boii, maybe?) That decided to aid them against the Celts and thus Caesar found an excuse to meddle into Gallic politics and subjugate the area. But you could say that some Celts really did invite him over😂
@Picassoturtlenumba5
@Picassoturtlenumba5 5 лет назад
Both Caesar and Cortes had native allies. Caesar even put Gauls in the Senate.
@hulking_presence
@hulking_presence 4 года назад
Because they did.
@Andre_Servetus
@Andre_Servetus 4 года назад
35slayer, Another ignorant snide remark from someone who thinks they know something but really needs to educate themselves by primary sources. It was common for dignitaries of civilizations to host one another respectfully and it is also common that men understood and expected rivalries and competition to exist among all. There was also because of this understanding a certain way of behaving toward new powers with deferemce and respect just as they had vassals and subjects thry understood that they may become the vassal of greater power
@hulking_presence
@hulking_presence 4 года назад
And if they didn't, so what?
@skipjackjohnson5528
@skipjackjohnson5528 4 года назад
They were flashing their gold to the spanish explores. That was a big mistake. How would they know thougb.
@sergiofernandez4566
@sergiofernandez4566 4 года назад
The gold was important as the Spaniards were not soldiers of the crown but entreprenaurs: all of them from Cortés to the poorest soldier BUT also 1 they were very religious and wanted to spread the faith and Cortés grow up with Anni al and Alexander the great
@estacion7386
@estacion7386 4 года назад
Gold was not even the best or precious thing for the sztecs
@Cuauhtemoc3
@Cuauhtemoc3 4 года назад
Gold wasn't a big thing to the Aztecs.
@chrisg1621
@chrisg1621 4 года назад
no des papaya
@silveryuno
@silveryuno 5 лет назад
Thank you for another amazing video. Listeing to it I could not help but wonder what Montezuma actually meant when saying those words. Nahuatl (the azetc language) is a very "poetic" language, and the words of Montezuma were being translated by Malinche. Who know what Montezuma actualy meant to say.
@MajoraZ
@MajoraZ 5 лет назад
Precisely, the variations of Nahuatl used in diplomatic contexts was oozing with specific symbolic phrases and figures of speech which make translating it iffy; if you look at Aztec records of the events in question, the translation is very different and it doesn't have the same connotations of giving over the kingdom or dknowleding Cortes as a lost god as it does here. There's a section of the book "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest" entirely comparing different translations of this specific exchange.
@pfefferfilm
@pfefferfilm 5 лет назад
I'm absolutely certain that there was a good deal of "generously" subjective translating
@GeoGyf
@GeoGyf 5 лет назад
Maybe that he considers the Spaniards as blood-relatives, distant cousins or descendants of Quetzaloatl. Cortes believed that the Aztecs thought him as Quetzalcoatl reborn/avatar, but maybe thats Spanish exaggeration at play. Quetzalcoatl tought the Mesoamericans arts, craft, farming tricks etc & is thought to have arrived from the sea. Possibly ancient Greeks made the voyage. There are a lot of similarities between Mesoamericans/Incas & Ancient Greeks (mainly Myceneans/Minoans) mostly in meander designs, architectural stoa designs, and musical instrument resemblance & there have been a couple joint-effort cultural/historic/diplomatic relations between Greece & various S.America countries. Certainly the hints are there, but without absolute proof who can say.
@sittingstill3578
@sittingstill3578 5 лет назад
Insightful comments. The Penn Museum did a lecture series titled “Great Beasts of Legend” that provides some more insight into the worldview. Hearing from primary sources is really essential in an age when most information is abstractions of abstractions. Great Beasts of Legend (Penn Museum): ru-vid.com/group/PLsnLPcXMHBKMNxEZo9fQ-VTww_7l5W6AJ
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 4 года назад
@ibesweetp2 >Castilian Hitler lol
@davidchase9424
@davidchase9424 5 лет назад
Hippity hoppity, your empire is now my property
@sporefergieboy10
@sporefergieboy10 5 лет назад
David Chase chapo check
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
I find this interesting how, before war against the Spanish even began, Montezuma admits that two other cities are already rebelling against him. I'm going to make a bold statement now; I think that the Aztec Empire would have fallen around this time even if no Conquistadors arrived. For all their achievements, the Aztecs were despised by the people they ruled over - that's why their subjects were so ready to support the Spaniards.
@TheUrizen
@TheUrizen 5 лет назад
You're spot on. More than half of the army that stormed Tenotchtitlan were natives that had allied themselves under Cortez banner against the aztecs.
@sebastianramirez8380
@sebastianramirez8380 5 лет назад
If im right in the precolombian Mexico there were rules regarding the wars, one of them stated that if a city had been defeated, then the army and resources of that place should serve from that moment to the winner part, that was the way the mexicas(aztecs) got the control over many cities and also how Cortés acomplish to
@sebastianramirez8380
@sebastianramirez8380 5 лет назад
Acomplish to grow up his army with lots of indigenous cities armies
@gospaironija2762
@gospaironija2762 5 лет назад
There was white people existing there since the destruction of Altantis Spaniards speak about them as their own people.They could not destinct each other apart.Cloud people that build everything there.They were children of people who come there to "give" civilization to Mestizos.They even talk about white gods coming and Aztecs were thinking Spaniards are gods.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
@@gospaironija2762Atlantis wasn't a real civilization, but rather a fictional society which Plato used as an allegory for the folly of hubris and pride.
@fakename8850
@fakename8850 5 лет назад
That was getting kind of weird when Moctezuma raised his robes
@MrFreakHeavy
@MrFreakHeavy 4 года назад
Moctezuma lifted his robe and repeated with a different intonation, directing his unwavering gaze at Cortez: "all of which I own is yours." And then shit got raunchy. -- Cortés -Letter to the King- Secret Fanfic, 1520
@dannyherrera2163
@dannyherrera2163 4 года назад
What part did he raise his robe? 😂 Like what minute mark? Lol
@cpegg5840
@cpegg5840 4 года назад
Because he was a savage pig and he got what he deserved.
@goliathtigerfishes
@goliathtigerfishes 4 года назад
Sword fight!
@goliathtigerfishes
@goliathtigerfishes 4 года назад
Danny Herrera about 6:00
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 лет назад
And then Cortés took him literally... and took everything he posessed and made the country his own. Moctezuma: oops, I didn't meant that so literally...
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 5 лет назад
Don't ask me to defend the Horrible Castilian invasion, but to be fair, it was not like this. Moctezuma was really in favor of befriend the Spanish, they killed all of his enemies after all, so they had been quite usefull, and Hernan Cortés also thought that having the Triple Aztec Coalition on his side would be a good thing (At this time, he was a rebel, and the Spanish King already had sent an army to catch him). Unfortunatelly, next year of the event described on the letter, Moctezuma died by a rock thrown on a procession (Aztec people was not specially fond of the Spanish coalition), and his brother Cuauhtémoc (Part of the uncomptent) was elected as the new king. He attacked the house were all the Hernan Cortes command were hosted, and Hernan himself barely escaped. Then he took revenge, and quite a bloddy one.... The rest is history.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 лет назад
@@framegrace1 - That's not the version I'm familiar with at all. AFAIK, Cortés allied with the Tlaxacaltecas, one of the peoples systematically oppressed by the Aztecs and these made up the bulk of his army. It is true that, scared, Moctezuma tried to appease the Castilians and set some form of alliance but this was mostly because the Castilians were actively taking over Tenochtitlan by brute force. Then it happened as you say: Moctezuma was killed and a replacement was crowned in the "Noche Triste", when the Castilians barely made it out of Tenochtitlan.
@DioBrando-mr5xs
@DioBrando-mr5xs 5 лет назад
@@LuisAldamiz Almost like you were lied to. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 лет назад
@@DioBrando-mr5xs - Not really. I know a lot of history and prehistory. I am sometimes wrong, like everybody, but I don't think I am in this case.
@InvisibleHotdog
@InvisibleHotdog 5 лет назад
According to his own words, he did mean it so literally
@yushothu201
@yushothu201 5 лет назад
Remember kids only the winner gets to write history.
@yushothu201
@yushothu201 5 лет назад
@Benghali In Platforms I feel growing up in a western school we were lied to about the other party constantly by the people writing the history books.
@unnamedshadow1866
@unnamedshadow1866 5 лет назад
the Aztecs never had time to write their version. And even if they did, it was burned by the Priests that arrived after the Conquest. The Mayans though, they were able to write. And it gives us an interesting depiction of the invaders. I hope we get a narration from their side as well.
@JP-rf8rr
@JP-rf8rr 5 лет назад
Tell that to the Vikings
@yushothu201
@yushothu201 5 лет назад
@@angelarevalo6903 why do you think we are all here watching this video...?
@blueboylugos4920
@blueboylugos4920 5 лет назад
Woe to the vanquished
@daveybernard1056
@daveybernard1056 4 года назад
"If you like your Aztec Empire, you can keep your Aztec Empire."
@KingDanny9
@KingDanny9 3 года назад
LMAOOO
@outdoor044
@outdoor044 3 года назад
That line never gets old.
@deedeekay1642
@deedeekay1642 3 года назад
swear!
@samwell707
@samwell707 2 года назад
Nice
@darbyohara
@darbyohara 11 месяцев назад
Barak obamatec 😂
@trugrit7210
@trugrit7210 3 года назад
"In the early Sixteenth Century a force of hundreds overcame an empire of millions." First sentence and already wrong. Cortes had made alliances with local groups that were tired of the Aztecs lording over them. It was an army of thousands that took on the Aztecs. Cortes couldn't have defeated the Aztecs with only his Spanish troops.
@brycekillian1096
@brycekillian1096 2 года назад
@@Nnnnn636 Thanks' for not having a point.
@NoahBodze
@NoahBodze 2 года назад
There’s no history anymore. It’s history of history. If someone says something different about the past later, they repeat that “later” and don’t dare looking at the source.
@haydeen6535
@haydeen6535 2 года назад
The force of hundreds forged alliances, and together with the alliances they managed to forge, they defeated the empire of millions. So yes, the force of hundreds did defeat the empire of millions, they did this by forging alliances. Stop trying to sound smart nerd.
@trugrit7210
@trugrit7210 2 года назад
​@@haydeen6535 I see you're not a fan of the English language.
@denistardif6650
@denistardif6650 2 года назад
@@trugrit7210 Cortes was Spanish....... And for the other one he is trying to push the moral of weeeell technically the Spanish did not defeat the Aztec when all other accounts tell us other wise Spanish get on coast bada-bing badaboom no more Aztec what do you call that?
@leonelmartinez5361
@leonelmartinez5361 3 года назад
There are writings of how handsome and brave Moctezuma was but I never hear it in English version. There are books from spaniard on how magnificent and clean the city of technotitlan was and other facts that are not discussed or have I heard in English. The last time Montezuma and Cortez met was more interesting. For you Spanish speakers I recommend NOPAL TIMES on youtube.. They specialize in telling Mexican history from mayas, Aztecs, past presidents and other interesting topics
@psallen5099
@psallen5099 Год назад
@leonelmartinez5361 Try reading Bernal Diaz’s book The History of the Conquest of New Spain written in 1541 by the last surviving conquistador who served under Cortez
@kevinhatchett2021
@kevinhatchett2021 3 года назад
interesting that the baby eater is pictured as benevolent and the Christian is depicted as evil. we live in bizzaro world.
@jan-willemvankaathoven914
@jan-willemvankaathoven914 5 лет назад
Lucky Cortez, he just happened to be the prophesised heir to the empire he discovered! If I were him I would be the first one to tell everybody about it as well ;)
@davidkelly4210
@davidkelly4210 4 года назад
Mesoamericans and Inca did in fact think their gods/progenitors would 1 day come from the east, white and bearded.
@le-chevalier-renaud
@le-chevalier-renaud 4 года назад
Cortez was never gonna "keep" Mexico, it was always gonna belong to the Emperor of Spain. The most Cortez hoped for was a title of nobility and fief in Spain itself.
@elmaster7465
@elmaster7465 4 года назад
@@davidkelly4210 this is a myth made up by the Spaniards that wasn't ever mentioned until decades after the conquest, in reality at the time of contact the Spaniards recorded an instance where they couldn't tell apart one of their own men (Geronimo de Aguilar) from Mayans, which isn't surprising considering Spaniards aren't exactly the "whitest" with their Moorish admixture. Also, light skinned Amerindians exist which disproves the "white" gods myth.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 4 года назад
Elmaster, why the Spaniards need to fabricate a myth after successfully conquering both the Incan and Aztec Empires? It doesn't add up! Did the Native Peoples of the Americas knew about whiter peoples than the Spaniards? It seems you follow Martin Luther description of the Spaniards as《sunt plerunque Marani, Mamelucken》in 1537. Unmitigated racist humbug!
@delamoxica
@delamoxica 4 года назад
@@elmaster7465 And the moors weren't exactly the swarthiest with their vandal admixture and so on ad nauseum. It woud be fun to see you correct these mexicans, perhaps along the lines of "the spainards dont really look like slavic or irish people hence calling them "white" despite them being paler than you and european is somehow not correct, maybe you'd even dare call Cortez a half moorish bastard though I doubt it.
@TheeDrGroyper
@TheeDrGroyper 4 года назад
In Mexico, for those who don’t know, there’s a saying: *A Mexicans greatest enemy is another Mexican* I strongly believe the conquest of Mexico really messed them up. Cortes took advantage of the fact that the Mexica hated each other and he was able to conquer them by easily dividing them. That division *STILL* exists till this very day.
@Artemisarrowzz
@Artemisarrowzz 4 года назад
This is a problem in all of latin america. The most hated country by latin americans is usually their own, which doesn't really help to make things better.
@thecashmaker1994
@thecashmaker1994 4 года назад
Yep. Northern Mexicans hate southern Mexicans. And vice versa. Also, urban Mexicans hate rural Mexicans, and vice versa.
@nahidbethehonoredone
@nahidbethehonoredone 4 года назад
Oh my goodness, that's the same thing here in the Philippines Given that we are an archipelago, we are even more diverse and divided, and the hate still exists up until now especially between the North (Luzon, especially the Tagalogs) and the South (Mindanao and Visayas, especially the Bisayas). And also the main reason why the Spanish conquered us so easily (Cortez did it in Mexico, well Legazpi finished Magellan's unfinished work and conquered the islands of Visayas and Luzon. Mindanao pretty much became untouched as Muslims reside that area)
@TheeDrGroyper
@TheeDrGroyper 4 года назад
ComradeSam1994 Not only that, but it’s very tribal and a Mexican seems more loyal to their specific region before their motherland. I’ve noticed here in the US it’s slowly becoming that way too. So many states hating each other. I’m in California, and over here the South despises the north and vise versa.
@frazierduran71
@frazierduran71 4 года назад
That's the way it is around the world. It's nothing special. The difference is some people know how to stick together when an outside force comes.
@leslielutz1874
@leslielutz1874 4 года назад
Every thing I own is yours said no man never ever to another man.
@IudiciumInfernalum
@IudiciumInfernalum 4 года назад
Well this guy did, he was at first convinced the Spanish were Gods. I guess if literal Jesus showed up at your front door you might be extra nice as well.
@NewNecro
@NewNecro 4 года назад
@@IudiciumInfernalum yeah people forget that to the natives Spanish were literally aliens from a mothership that could blow up rock and trees to rubble and fire thunder from their staffs. Imagine not wanting seemingly literal gods on your side in a religious society.
@IudiciumInfernalum
@IudiciumInfernalum 4 года назад
@Just thoughts really Jesus believes in property rights, i know this. I've asked Him personally.
@assassinaria
@assassinaria 4 года назад
Actually, one thing that carried over from ancient Persia to this day are those exact words. Persians always say that to guests that arrive in their home even though they only mean for a span of a couple days and rely on the guest to be polite enough not to take everything.
@squakrock
@squakrock 4 года назад
Some dudes give up the booty cheeks
@j.m.w.5064
@j.m.w.5064 4 года назад
Did you actually yawn at 1:18 when he descends from the horse? 🙃
@vinrusso821
@vinrusso821 4 года назад
It was the allied tribes of Cortez that was able to subdue the Aztecs. Aztecs were the dreaded enemy of the neighboring tribes, and Cortez had 50,000 to 70,000 warriors. There were only 300-500 Spaniards, 100,000 Aztecs.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 4 года назад
The lineage of Moctezuma is alive, wonder how many Native Peoples lineages were respected by the British Crown, such as the Tasmanians.
@goodaimshield1115
@goodaimshield1115 4 года назад
@Marcelo Henrique Soares da Silva Thing is, it was not even about devide. It was more so the opposite. Cortés united several tribes against a common enemy.
@George-ur8ow
@George-ur8ow 4 года назад
@@joselugo4536 didnt cortez impregnate montezuma's daughter, but would not marry her? I think that's how the lineage survived?
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 4 года назад
Not only with Cortés, Isabel de Moctezuma was married several times, there are two thousand descendants.
@George-ur8ow
@George-ur8ow 4 года назад
@@joselugo4536 interesting! Ill look more into this. Thanks!
@scoringbox2176
@scoringbox2176 4 года назад
To think that this happened 499 years and 364 days ago, making tomorrow the 500th anniversary of this exact day in history. Isn’t it amazing how far we’ve come? I know we still have our flaws today, but so much has changed in such a short amount of time. And believe me, about 5,000 years of recorded history means that this happened at right at the start of the last tenth of it. The technological, military, and political advances made in the last 500 years alone by humans eclipsed those made prior to the 1500s tenfold. I know it sounds crazy, but I would be surprised if mars and moons of outer planets aren’t colonized before I die at the current rate of advancement. It’s too bad there’s just so many people alive today who choose ignore all this knowledge of how we came to be where we are today. If one minor detail in our history didn’t occur the way it did, we wouldn’t be here. That also means right now, we are choosing every day with the choices we make what our future will look like. Just think, what will our day and age look like in the history textbooks of the future after we’re gone? What will our untold descendants say about us? What will our generation’s legacy leave behind for the next to improve on?
@ericspencer8093
@ericspencer8093 4 года назад
Civilization collapsed around 1200 BC, followed by a 400-500 year dark age, then rose bigger and better than before, followed by another collapse in the 4th Century AD, and another long dark age. Going by history, I'd say we're do for another collapse and another dark age.
@jerres9585
@jerres9585 4 года назад
@@ericspencer8093 I definitely think so too, although I'll add this, in the previous declines of civilization and the 4th century AD civilization collapse in Europe is a great example, the world wasn't as connected and small as it is today. In more practical terms, we didn't have one global, multinational economy as we do now. So when the Western Roman empire fell and Europe succumbed to the Dark Ages, the civilizations in the Middle East, China and India were doing alright for example and kept on going.. This time if it happens, it'll be global, a direct consequence of the Global Village as they call it, that all our advancements have brought to life
@Wasteland88
@Wasteland88 4 года назад
@Yashaya Yaquab 144 I see you found your tin foil hat that your mom threw in the garbage.
@Wasteland88
@Wasteland88 4 года назад
@Yashaya Yaquab 144 Yea I actually have seen planets, not in person of course, but through this very powerful instrument I have that's called a telescope. You should try using one sometime instead of believing that there is some sort of global conspiracy to not tell us the truth about outer space.
@alexabihabib8215
@alexabihabib8215 4 года назад
@Yashaya Yaquab 144 go outside of your house, away from cities and look in the sky. It might shock you but there are these things called stars and planets, you can see them with you damn eyes. Use a telescope and you can see individual planets. With some camera lenses you can even take photos of the ISS passing in front of the moon or other planets. All very real my guy. The ancient Sumerians and Greeks wrote about this. And the Europeans aren't liars, they are the founders of one of the world's greatest civilizations ever.
@ieatcrayons408
@ieatcrayons408 4 года назад
Aztecs: HERE, HAVE OUR COUNTRY Cortés: well that was surprisingly easy And then no one dies
@MrGollum1996
@MrGollum1996 4 года назад
Chickens? Chickens didnt exist in the Americas before the arrival of Europeans. But I guess turkeys would be called chickens by the Spanish who didnt know turkeys yet...
@alejandroojeda1572
@alejandroojeda1572 4 года назад
There's that weird moment he calls some buildings mosques
@alejandroojeda1572
@alejandroojeda1572 4 года назад
Interesting fact Spain was named by the fenicians as "rabbit land" and that name is where name "Spain" ultimately comes from. So Here's the thing, There are rabbits in Spain, lots of them, the only problem is....the phoenicians wouldn't know, lebanon, their homeland has no rabbits. They have hyraxes....which with a bit of imagination almost look like rabbits. So Spain name could be a mistake.... just like calling turkeys....chickens.
@estacion7386
@estacion7386 4 года назад
No way you believe a guajolote is the same as a chiken
@alejandroojeda1572
@alejandroojeda1572 4 года назад
@john doe the latin name was hispania and It has the same ancestor as "iberia" which IS greek in origin.
@roblockhart6104
@roblockhart6104 4 года назад
Sort of ironic considering how around 1492, the Spanish had just been fully liberated from more than 700 years of Islamic rule by the moors and berbers in Europe. Something a lot of Europeans don't like to talk about. It seems the Islamic conquest of Africa, Asia, the mideast, and Europe left a lasting impression on them.
@H0DLTHED0R
@H0DLTHED0R 4 года назад
Yea that Islam is evil and must be dealt with right away. Somebody tell france and England
@crimson1453
@crimson1453 3 года назад
Wdym? Here in Spain we literally go over the history of Al-Andulus extensively to the point that it's part of our university exams 🤔
@grishy8203
@grishy8203 5 лет назад
The luckiest conqueror ever: "Alright guys we're looking for a tough fight here. These guys won't go down easy." Moctezuma: "Oh hey we've been waiting for you, what are our king's orders?"
@duckhawkninja3614
@duckhawkninja3614 Год назад
It’s kinda sad how so many people take what historical figures wrote about themselves at face value. I’m not denying that it went down somewhat along these lines but it’s always a good rule of thumb to be skeptical of anything someone writes about their own actions because things that make the writer look good will be embellished or sometimes even made up and things that make the writer look bad will be downplayed or sometimes even left out entirely.
@hansupk8155
@hansupk8155 10 месяцев назад
Totally Agree.
@bencopeland3560
@bencopeland3560 8 месяцев назад
I don’t dispute this point in the abstract however, without sufficient rigor and precaution, this sentiment opens the door to revisionists whose sins are far greater than that of literalism
@duckhawkninja3614
@duckhawkninja3614 8 месяцев назад
@@bencopeland3560 It’s not necessarily revisionism that’s the issue. When done properly, revisionism is a necessary response to new findings in archaeology, anthropology, and history that contradict the current narrative. In history the narrative must fit the evidence not the other way around and if new evidence doesn’t fit the current narrative adjustments must be made accordingly. It’s when revisions are made without any evidence to back those revisions up that it becomes a problem.
@bencopeland3560
@bencopeland3560 8 месяцев назад
@@duckhawkninja3614 The latter type of revisionism you mention is the type I'm referring to. That's what I meant by "without sufficient rigor and precaution". Most typically, what we see along these lines is revisionists who apply a modern intersectional political ideology that bisects all historical events into a narrative of oppressor/oppressed and views their role as a historian to "remedy" the past rather than merely report on it. On this topic someone like Matthew Restall is a good case in point.
@duckhawkninja3614
@duckhawkninja3614 8 месяцев назад
@@bencopeland3560 Thete certainly is some of that going on with the woke movement. That being said I wouldn’t say that the curriculum I grew up with was all that much better than the 1619 project. If anything it seems 1619 is the result of people taking college history courses and learning about things Americas overly patriotic public education system intentionally didn’t teach them. Certainly not a good way of correcting the half truths and omissions that were spoon fed to us in the name of patriotism but I get how it came to this and it seems the 1776 Project that’s been proposed as an alternative does nothing but double down on all the problems that led to 1619 in the first place.
@elely1973
@elely1973 4 года назад
Montezuma bathed twice a day...the Spaniards wrote...and the people of a King follow the Kings habits....while at the exact same time frame in Europe the king of France was noted to have taken 2 bathes during his entire reign..so who was more civilized ??
@thecook8964
@thecook8964 Год назад
So your definition of civilization is taking two baths a day🤔?
@jasonpalacios1363
@jasonpalacios1363 5 лет назад
The Aztecs/Mexica got their karma for oppressing the conquered tribes around their empire because if they would have been nice to those tribes,then the Aztecs would have easily form a unity with those tribes and would have easily kicked the Spanish asses.
@ingwiafraujaz3126
@ingwiafraujaz3126 4 года назад
But for how long? Until the Spanish sent their armies.
@deliverfrance5937
@deliverfrance5937 4 года назад
Maybe The Aztecs called this upon themselves by performing human sacrifices
@cpmenninga
@cpmenninga 4 года назад
You mean like burning innocent people alive? Then why didn’t all the Spaniards drown on the trip to the Americas?
@deliverfrance5937
@deliverfrance5937 4 года назад
@@cpmenninga Because in their philosophy they don't have to sacrifice 200.000 people annually, neither were they cannibals.
@favelado3408
@favelado3408 4 года назад
lol imagine being this ignorant
@deliverfrance5937
@deliverfrance5937 4 года назад
​@@favelado3408 What is the knowledge that you have, that I have not?
@cpmenninga
@cpmenninga 4 года назад
barefoot arizona but until then the dictatorship had been keeping the empire together, Cortez was a wild card. It would be like telling Hitler to stop enslaving conquered countries.
@heathenfire
@heathenfire 5 лет назад
I don't know , but some parts of this, sound like they were cooked up by Cortez to justify their conquest. Montezuma sounds a little too subservient isn't it?
@juanmam.2113
@juanmam.2113 5 лет назад
Well, welcome to history
@rodolfogonzalez724
@rodolfogonzalez724 5 лет назад
Yup, but not only to legitimy the conquest, but also to demostrate to Charles V that he was doing a "correct" procedure in order to reclaim Tenochtitlan for the spanish crown
@slyrooster1241
@slyrooster1241 5 лет назад
So I've read both the Aztec and Spanish version of how all this went down. It is correct that there was a certain wayabout making this legal for the Spanish crown to vassalize the Aztecs. But also Moctezuma was genuinely interested in the Spanish because they got to the Capitol despite moctezuma's lavish bribes to make them go away, and the Spanish ability to defeat the rebellious vassals what's such a small amount of manpower. I really love hearing about how the new world met the old world it's probably one of the only instances where a civilization came into contact with another civilization at this level and scope.
@cv4809
@cv4809 5 лет назад
It does sound suspicious but I've heard that the Aztecs actually believed that they were descendants of foreigners who had come there from east
@hrantk2060
@hrantk2060 5 лет назад
Sounds like it; however he could have been trying to deceive Cortez into letting his guard down and later on be attacked by native armies within the confines of the city
@jackgraeme3557
@jackgraeme3557 4 года назад
Almost sounds like this historical account was written by a conqueror.
@tach1794
@tach1794 4 года назад
There are two histories about this meet, Aztec and Spanish, both say the same history, the unique difference between both is the way that Montezuma die.
@jackgraeme3557
@jackgraeme3557 4 года назад
I did hear another version that had a bit of difference to it. It showed signs of trepidation on the part of Montezuma, but submission just the same. Cortes, of course, wouldn't bring that up. If you show up anywhere with overwhelming violent technology and demand obedience, you'll probably get it. And, the "spoils" system says that if you submit without terms, I'm legally entitled to all your stuff and get to tell you how to do everything from now on, including writing your own history.
@ReapingTheHarvest
@ReapingTheHarvest 4 года назад
@@jackgraeme3557 Exactly, took me a while to find a comment from someone aware of how obvious this is.
@jackgraeme3557
@jackgraeme3557 4 года назад
Michael A Well, it can be hard for innocent-minded people to understand how power works.
@chevychase3103
@chevychase3103 4 года назад
Almost! LOL
@sporovid5856
@sporovid5856 2 года назад
Very convenient that Montezuma immediately recognized the Spanish as the “rightful sovereigns” of the Aztec Empire. Let us not forget who this account was written by…
@Obese_Pterodactyl
@Obese_Pterodactyl 2 года назад
True. Also the part about him saying they were descendants of another race who interbred with the indigenous. True or false it's crazy. I was under the impression that the Aztec's official origin story according to them was them coming out of a cave in the north and migrating south till they founded Tenochtitlan.
@anirudh177
@anirudh177 2 года назад
@@Obese_Pterodactyl yeah, the 7 caves of Chichomoztoc in Aztlan. From which supposedly the Xochimilca, Tepanec, Colhua, Tlahuica, Tlaxcalteca, Mexica and the Chalca emerged and migrated.
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 5 лет назад
Only moments ago I was pondering Cortés and Montezuma in contrast to Leopold in the Congo, and like magic this video appears in my notifications.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 лет назад
Cortés was much more corteous than Leopold. He even "liberated" the Tlaxcaltecas and AFAIK cut nobody's hand, just some heads.
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 5 лет назад
@@LuisAldamiz he certainly was.
@thisisgeorge2117
@thisisgeorge2117 5 лет назад
If you think it... google/RU-vid knows? I do know that if I speak something out loud it usually shows up pretty fast in my feed. 🤨😵
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 5 лет назад
​@@thisisgeorge2117 noticed that just talking to someone in my contacts who is carrying a smart phone triggers the feed on my computer. It's getting ridiculous.
@simonestreeter1518
@simonestreeter1518 5 лет назад
@@KowboyUSA Holy shit.
@olirayner5129
@olirayner5129 4 года назад
This channel is just beautiful I cannot get enough of it.
@-__._._.__-
@-__._._.__- 5 лет назад
How did they speak to each other, how did they find translators that spoke both languages
@dedlede777
@dedlede777 5 лет назад
Via La Malinche
@JuanRamos-yw6me
@JuanRamos-yw6me 5 лет назад
Spanish conquistadors sometimes took natives and taught them Spanish so they could work as "lenguas", translators to aid them in diplomatic affairs
@Valebare
@Valebare 5 лет назад
Cortes was accompanied by a woman who understood the Aztec language, she would translated to Mayan, and then a Spanish man who knew Mayan would translated to Spanish.
@juanbermudez6489
@juanbermudez6489 5 лет назад
Valebare Not Mayan. Aztecs spoke náhuatl. Mayan was spoken by the Mayans located south of Mexico. Two different cultures.
@mistah6898
@mistah6898 5 лет назад
No, he's right she did at first report back in Mayan to a man who spoke Spanish and Mayan who reported in Spanish to Cortés. Eventually that translator who spoke Mayan and Aztec learned Spanish as well and the Mayan/Spanish speaker was cut out of the system
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 3 года назад
I feel like I can't be sure if anything Cortez claims is true apart from the meeting happening... can't imagine him to be an honest person
@prigual2901
@prigual2901 3 года назад
Hi, and why not ? Alexander the Great or Caesar were then honest ?
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 3 года назад
@@prigual2901 Ha I am quite certain they inserted lies and distortions in their accounts
@iksarguards
@iksarguards 5 лет назад
You never tell my boy Hernán that you got gold. Boy, you fucked up.
@sergiolobato1798
@sergiolobato1798 4 года назад
In Catholic school, one of the nuns was Spanish and she used to tell us : Thanks to us you're wearing shoes! we were always puzzled by this assurtion because we had seen drawings of Aztecs wearing sandals ! We dared not ask for clarity for the possibility of reciving a smack in the mouth by her saintly cold hand. Ah simpler times!
@_ata_3
@_ata_3 3 года назад
Que triste que tantos años después algunos sigan pensando que ellos mismos (en este caso la monja) son superiores. La monja seguro no inventó nada, ni siquiera podría haber hecho unos zapatos aún con instrucciones.
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 5 лет назад
montezuma was a very courteous host then... that's very nice
@darknation6174
@darknation6174 5 лет назад
Not so nice for the fortune of his people
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 5 лет назад
If he was less of a slimey asslicker there would be more Atztecs today...
@supremeleader9440
@supremeleader9440 5 лет назад
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 he had too since the empire got so big and they did diplomacy
@ebervaliusahau2289
@ebervaliusahau2289 5 лет назад
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 It wasn't his personal fault. He was just following the traditional Nahua etiquette and protocols. Of course, it didn't end well, but Montezuma was a very qualified ruler (before becoming an emperor, he was a Calmecac teacher and also a general), much more than we give him credit for, because the conquest fiasco damaged his reputation very much.
@Popperite
@Popperite 5 лет назад
I like your moniker
@iksarguards
@iksarguards 4 года назад
“Bring the gold or I’ll bring the pain” - Hernán Cortés
@maztermonzter9764
@maztermonzter9764 4 года назад
5:38 Montezuma believe Cortés was a human like him not a god, another myth destroyed
@sergiofernandez4566
@sergiofernandez4566 4 года назад
Mexican spies have confirmed to Moctezuma the human nature of the Spaniards by the method of capturing some and cut them Into pieces...
@estacion7386
@estacion7386 4 года назад
The massacre of tlatelolco
@Jay_Sullivan
@Jay_Sullivan 4 года назад
Did you not hear the one from Montezuma?
@potita24
@potita24 Год назад
Cortes told Moctezuma "My people have a desease that can only be cured with gold"
@secretamericayoutubechanne2961
Did montezuma have light facial hair??? So your cover photo is false from the start
@nonyabeeznuss304
@nonyabeeznuss304 4 года назад
montezuma: "hey fam, me case su casa, take whatever you want, its all yours!" cortez: "what if I just wanna kill you and sack your city?" montezuma: "wat...." cortez: "nothing, forget I said anything.... Hey, Is that real gold?"
@jeffreysalvador7076
@jeffreysalvador7076 4 года назад
Yea I doubt he said that... remember history is written by the winners
@JamesTaylor-on9nz
@JamesTaylor-on9nz 4 года назад
@Quodlibeta Based
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 4 года назад
That's why we ONLY know about the destruction of Jerusalem from the writings of the Babylonians. Oh, wait.
@dickbison
@dickbison 4 года назад
You can hear his own account on this very channel. My understanding hearing both is he was losing power, his empire was crumbling and becomming a vassal would give him powerful allies to crush the rebels.
@joaquinandreu8530
@joaquinandreu8530 4 года назад
There are several accounts of several witnesses. You can read them if you can overcome your bigotry and hate, Jeffrey.
@jeffreysalvador7076
@jeffreysalvador7076 4 года назад
@@joaquinandreu8530 those are some serious accusations sir. Mind your mouth.
@randomvintagefilm273
@randomvintagefilm273 4 года назад
Your voice and style of narration is excellent and takes me right to the event!
@erikm8372
@erikm8372 Год назад
Human sacrifice aside… look at the kindness shown to the Spaniards. All that hospitality and goodwill from Montezuma… yet, what’s the phrase-“give someone an inch & they take the whole damn ruler”? Lol. Or _become_ the ruler.
@liquidsnake6879
@liquidsnake6879 Год назад
They were not as kind to other Native people's which is why some aligned with the Spaniards in war against them. They were welcoming to the Spanish because as mentioned repeatedly they seemed to have thought that they were otherworldly beings of some sort and the Spaniards played this up deliberately
@zacktube100
@zacktube100 4 года назад
Montezuma's speech about his subordinates rebelling reminded me of Evil Betty from Kung, "People say that I do things that are not correct to do."
@cordovalark5295
@cordovalark5295 5 лет назад
There's one thing that confuses me; is how Montezuma thought the Spanish were gods? They weren't the first Spaniards the Aztecs met, that belongs to a Conquistador named Juan de Grijalva who met the first Aztec delegation from Montezuma in 1518, surely they went back and told of the encounter to Montezuma since they exchanged goods when they met and after that Juan de Grijalva left and went back to Cuba. That's how Cortes learned of the location...
@jokuvaan5175
@jokuvaan5175 5 лет назад
Also take into account that this is Cortez's version of the story that he probably told back in Spain so... he might have colored the story "a bit"
@Rajj854
@Rajj854 4 года назад
Cortes was apprehensive that the next ships from Spain would carry a warrant for his arrest. He did not want Montezuma to surrender the kingdom to him as that would make it easy for Spain to replace him. He wanted a violent confutation that would give his allies a hold on Aztec territory and make his own position as a holder of the reins on power secure.
@WillyOrca
@WillyOrca 2 года назад
Montezuma: *lifts up robe* LOOK at me. Cortés: Okay, that's enough. Guys, get the handcuffs please.
@yusuf7556
@yusuf7556 4 года назад
Montezuma known as the Moorish king is a fact Google it. My question is doesn't that mean America is Morocco
@sadface9661
@sadface9661 5 лет назад
This was beautiful
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs 4 года назад
If the translation was indeed accurate and unbiased, I find it fascinating how humble, down to earth, and human Montezuma was in his dialogue with Cortes, unlike the pompous and holier-than-thou European rulers.
@funkyfiss
@funkyfiss Год назад
I would recommend you read plutarchs book On the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon, often called simply De Facie. It goes into detail how Ancient Greeks would go to Brittan, Ireland and Scotland every 30 years before they would make the trip to Greenland. Greenland according to the ancient Greeks is the place where Cronos is buried. From there they would island hop and make it all the way to Canada. Yes! Greeks were visiting the Americas before the Vikings got there. Plutarch writes it so. According to Plutarch the trip could only be made every 30 years because that is when the stars would align correctly to be used for navigation. They would dig for gold and copper. Which coincides with the "copper culture" found in Canada's lake superior. They said the people were followers of the old religion that of Cronos which also included human sacrifice. And every 30 years a new high priest needed to be brought to them. Could have Montezuma based on the information that was given to him mistaken the Spaniards for the Greeks?
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 4 года назад
I somehow ship them now...
@grantshearer5615
@grantshearer5615 3 года назад
Why then conquer and kill them? Sounds like Cortez could have asked for a few engineers to come over from Spain, and became an emperor in his own right, and with the resources and people at his disposal, he could have very rapidly built a fleet that would have rivalled Britain.
@MORE1500
@MORE1500 5 лет назад
Multinational corporations are playing the same role today.
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 4 года назад
Except they aren't and it's a fallacious analogy.
@demiansolis
@demiansolis 2 года назад
"Even though in the 16th century the majority of the population of Spain was illiterate, they understood that when Cortes conquered Mexico, a new empire had been born..." I think this phrase taken from the Spanish film "1898, the last men from the Philippines" summarizes well what the conquest of Ancient Mexico got to represent for the 16th century Spaniards: the cornerstone of their global empire. When Cortes founded Mexico City on top of the ruins of the Mexica capital (Tenochtitlan) his master, the Emperor Charles V, granted Mexico City the nobility title of Imperial City. By doing that, the Emperor Charles acknowledged the superiority of the Mexica Kingdom over other indigenous peoples recently conquered (like the Taino people from the Caribbean) and the relevance of its former capital, Tenochtitlan. It is important to highlight that Cortes did everything in his power to prevent the destruction of the Mexica capital at the hands of his indigenous allies. He could not stop them. They hated the Aztecs way too much.
@englishgrammar3298
@englishgrammar3298 8 месяцев назад
@bvillafuerte765 Charles V was not Spanish, he was born and spent most of his life in Belgium. He didn't even speak a word of Spanish. Spain was just a lowly colony, a rather backward province, of the much larger Holy Roman Empire. Cortes was a Spanish servant of that Empire, one ruled from the Palace of Coudenberg in Brussels. When Charles retired in 1517, to enjoy the warmer climate of Spain, the centre of power was still in Brussels. The backward Spanish would never have been able to conquer the Aztec and Inca Empires so quickly without the resources of the Holy Roman Empire behind them. On Charles' death the Holy Roman Empire was split into two, between his son and his brother, and so only then was the Spanish Empire, or Western Holy Roman Empire, born but that was after the main conquests in the Americas. It was Roman Empire under the Habsburgs who conquered the Aztecs and Incas, and definitely not the Spanish .
@rfjohns4452
@rfjohns4452 Год назад
Bernal Diaz Del Castillo a soldier with Cortez wrote the defining book covering well exactly what happened as he was there whereas other writers were inaccurate. Diaz long life made him realize that truth no matter how bad it was must be heard. Guttenberg site has his writings.
@darbyohara
@darbyohara 11 месяцев назад
Probably one of the best accounts of that period even if it is potentially tainted by selective omissions
@tomwhitworth1560
@tomwhitworth1560 4 года назад
Jesus christ when cortes heard that dollar signs must have flickered in his pupils
@mrrandom1265
@mrrandom1265 4 года назад
Spain: I've heard you have some gold, I'm bringing you some Christianity USA: I've heard you have some oil, I'm bringing you some Freedom
@rosslehman4875
@rosslehman4875 5 лет назад
Cortes has this strange English accent
@Jfreek5050
@Jfreek5050 4 года назад
To think, had initial greetings gone better, the Aztecs would probably have conquered all of Mexico backed by Spanish weapons that were traded for gold.
@Civsuccess2
@Civsuccess2 4 года назад
That's F up. Montezuma literally said, my ancestors were from Europe and they married locals. We always know you will come to claim your throne. You can have entire Mexico since it's always been your.
@dickbison
@dickbison 4 года назад
It's easy to give what you don't have. His empire was crumbling, becoming a vassal would greatly enhance his power.
@clumsiii
@clumsiii 4 года назад
"Look out mama there's a white boat coming up the river" - Neil Young, "Powderfinger"
@mrrrokas
@mrrrokas 5 лет назад
Montezumas account of their desendence is so knowledgeble
@Magformerbattlebots
@Magformerbattlebots 2 года назад
In the end,we will still never know what his revenge truly was 😔
@DM-vt9xb
@DM-vt9xb Год назад
Lets not forget the vatican sent them to find and retreive gold. Thats why all those people dided.
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 4 года назад
This is highly doubtful and mostly bogus. Hernán Cortés hardly wrote anything which is available in Spanish history. Further, most of the documentation from that period are from Pánfilo Narváez and Alvaro Nuñez 'Cabeza De Baca' which have lasted till date. Cortés actually spend years trying to convince the smaller tribes surrounding the Aztecs to revolt, to rebellion and cecede from the existing empire. After subduing the neighbouring territories he laid siege to the Aztec imperial city itself, conquering it street by street until its capture was completed on August 13, 1521. Bullshit white historicism aside, these savage assholes known as 'Conquistadores' were aimlessly looking for gold and silver, based on age old whim and rumours spun by Columbus and the first wave of conquistadores who arrived in the West Indies.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
His letters were published in the 1520s. Sooo...
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 4 года назад
@@VoicesofthePast Really? Where can one see or read them? Link? University? Since I live in Spain, and have studied a fair amount of Spanish colonial history, there is close to none documents (in Spanish) written by Hernan Cortés.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Unless this is a truly elaborate hoax... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_letter_of_Hern%C3%A1n_Cort%C3%A9s_to_the_Emperor_Charles_V
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 4 года назад
@@VoicesofthePast thanks for the link - will cross check it with spanish teachers here
@goodaimshield1115
@goodaimshield1115 4 года назад
@@AudioPervert1 "there is close to none documents (in Spanish) written by Hernán Cortés." I can assure you, Hernán wrote in Spanish, and Las cartas de relacción are widely known, really, that's just like the first hand chronicle everyone interested in the Spanish Empire knows about XD
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