Even from the burnout and lineup you can see the C7 driver knows what he's doing more than the other. Shows how important the driver actually is more even than the car itself.
@@Gma7788 not sure what you mean. Theoretically the C8 should be faster off the line since it's, as you say, designed for it. But unless you know how to take advantage of that as the driver it doesn't really help.
Remember everyone, all of the C8 videos you're seeing is just a base C8 Stingray vs the higher end of other cars, ie Hell cat, gt500, ZL1, etc. Once that Z06 drops, it's going to murder the game stock for stock.
high revving, high HP, low torque engines (which it is) usually aren't especially good for launches/racing. The Z06 isn't going to be that much faster than the older Z06 (barring whatever benefits launch control provides). Expect perhaps 1/2 a second quicker, but basically the same trap speeds.
@@EagleScoutmano huh has absolutely nothing to do with low end torque (engine) I'm sure it will get off the line just fine with it's extremely short gearing, Ferrari Lambos has been doing low torque launches forever now
@@mrmete you have not provided any sort of counterargument whatsoever. In general a 600 HP car with 750 lb/ft of torque is faster in acceleration than a 600 HP car with 450 lb/ft of torque. While there are some cars which buck this trend, it doesn't invalidate it. Also, 670 horsepower isn't all that much more power than 650 is, and there's very little fundamentally different about an FMR vs an MR layout, for performance purposes.
@@EagleScoutmano let just wait and see when its realised and someone Race the 2 "Older vs New". I hope we will all come back here and Conclude The Debate.
@@v_stands_for_value124 Yes this is right, but there is also a factory option in the LT5 that has 755 horses and 715 pounds of torque @4400 rpms. This is a hands down competitor to the C-8's new competition which it can't catch up to. Plus the 7 looks damn good.
I have owned and have run a C7 Z06 and a C8 at Bandemire - 6,000’ elevation. I ran a 11.2 in the Z06 and a 12.5 in the C8 with full launch control. Boosted motors aren’t affected by altitude like NA motors are. About a 20% drop in hp (down to 400 from 495) on the C8 while maybe a drop of 30 hp down to 620 hp on the Z06.
1” of manifold pressure per 1000’ of altitude So you’ll be left with 22’ of manifold pressure at 6000ft of elevation from the 28’ you had at sea level.
Altitude might play here but i wonder about the times of both cars near sea level. However i would prefer a C7 Z06 compared to the C8 Z06 as well or both ZR1 trims in order to be fair.
I'm a fan of all these cars, but this video is biased against the C8 Vette. Only 1 of the C8s were using the launch control (its primary weapon). You can't compare 650 supercharged hp to 495 n.a. hp without the weaker engine having a couple advantages (like mid-engine AND an amazing launch control). As shown with the 1 C8 that was using launch control (hear the engine revving before the start), it was MUCH quicker off the line, increasing the time for the 155hp more powerful car to barely reel it in. Impressively quick for having less than 500hp.
So this video is biased because vette owners did vette owner stuff? I'm sure every time you're offended by something you want to speak to the manager too eh? Video shows what it shows.
There are two ways to look at this: Either from a purist point of view and based of power alone . Or. If there are other tricks in order to compensate like mid engine and launch control. Both are viable because both are valid solutions for the same problem. The real test is around a track under the same conditions. Launch control is only good once the launch is over but the extra power will dominate the longer it remains active, then there is handling, traction, aero, the transmission, center of gravity and even the quantity of fuel both cars can carry into consideration. This is one generation to the next with a while different approach. No bias here, simply different mentalities.
@@mtjeeves1234 it doesn't matter either way to me, I've got no dog in the fight! I just think every car should use every advantage the car was built with in each circumstance, especially a short drag race. But I want to speak to your manager!
@@adrianbrown2957 a man after my own heart😂😂😂😂😂. I've felt like I'm the only person on the planet that doesn't like this car until now. For me it has always looked like chevy took a 2005 modena 360 and just updated it basically.
0:50 - Thats bloody good, for what looks to be absolutely 100% stock ! In the mid 90's, i was doing slightly slower quarter mile times (12.13 best) at Santa Pod, UK (for 'standard' non-turbo, no-forced-induction, road legal, over 4 litre, class) . . . but, with a much higher terminal speeds (134+mph) . . . . . & all with just 357bhp - TVR Cerbera 4.2 AJP V8 (& with 'skinny' 1990's, 235 width Pirelli S0-1 rear tyres!) - Its all about gearing, i guess (& the benefits of modern rubber & traction technology!)
@@Odin851 the cars weight was 1,090kg (2400Lbs?) and was glass-fibre composite - it produced 333 ft Lb of torque. The engine was the TVR made AJP (flat-plane-crank )a de-tuned version/copy of the Judd V8 apparently, which they copied for their road cars)
OK, the elevation makes sense. Another factor is only one of the C8s were using its primary weapon, launch control. That makes it much quicker off the line, and the 155hp-advantaged opponent took the whole track to reel it back in.
I've driven both for months at a time, the c7 is an amazing car, I love everything about it but the c8 is a whole different experience. I'd get the c8 over the c7 but honestly, I'd be just as happy with the c7 because it's that good of car.
Nah, by the time I typed this comment I realized I'm a fool because I misread your comment AND didn't finish the video before replying, And nope that wasn't me, My C8 is white and I don't live in the US.@@timfixinstuff
These are not fair comparisons. The C8 Stingray has a 460 HP engine. The C7 ZO6 and Camaro ZLI both use the supercharged LT4 engine that puts out 650 HP.
No matter how you look at it, the C8 only has 495 horsepower, compared to the ZO6, it has 650 horsepower. And, the C8 has and will have overheating problems. GM still hasn't worked out that issue.
I'd actually expect that Front engine rwd setups are better for straight line speed Mid engine rwd is better in use at a race track or raceway taking corners... 2 totally different cars here other than badging and brand and some interchangeable parts I'm sure
On a drag strip, where grip isn't an issue, of course the car with less weight and more power is going to win... C8 would probably win on a regular road until a certain point.
Geez not a good value i have done 12.10 in a stock ScatPack challenger for half the price. Obviously the guys learning but im like gimme that Vette ill show you how to launch!
It’s nice 😊 2 see the C7 Corvette rwd beat the C8 Mid Engine. I can’t understand why GM couldn’t make 2 Corvettes. The Mid Engine C8 made in limited numbers which is called Zora and the C7 live on modified
Wait is this a c7 zo6 vs a base c8 ya apples and oranges let’s do zo6 vw zo6 and see and what looks cooler plus the base c8 I got a 2.8 0-60 how much faster do u need?
It was the rear wheels, the C-8 never got good burnouts. Actually, you get more torque when it comes from the front of the car. Or am I wrong about this?
Performance aside (I'm aware these are not apples-to-apples comparisons), I am just not a fan of the C8's looks. The C7 and C6 are my favorites. (I'm not an owner of either, btw.) I hope the C9 (or maybe a future C8 revamp) looks better.
Agreed. The C8 looks like two halves of totally different cars were welded together just behind the doors. And it looks even worse in person. A miserable fail…
That red c8 with high wing has something wrong with it. Might have that transmission issue that some c8s have. Its to slow the red mist one seems good took the c7 zo6.
I think it's quite obvious the ones involving that car is at elevation. banners says stuff like mile high. An NA car is due to suffer more than forced induction C7Z and ZL1
So in other words, equivalent trims have about zero generational improvement? A last gen Stingray could run about the same time as this one at the same altitude.
Ima guess the C8 is going to get off the line first but the C7 is going to catch up and finish it Edit… the first C8 didn’t take off quote like other C8s have.. did they not use the launch control.? Edit again, the second race is what should “always” happen. The C8 has a great launch control? It’s what keeps it on the board compared to everything else. But, since it’s the base model, having the lower HP it just can’t keep up at the end of the track. It should take off great - better weight balance and launch control. Then get passed, as it’s “lacking” HP.
Personally, I can't live without a Proper 3rd Pedal 6 Speed Manual Transmission . I would take a C7 or a GT350 any day. If the C8 or GT500 cost $50,000. I would spend $20k or upto $80k for the 6 Manual Transmission. I lived for 7 years with my 2016 Performance Pack Mustang. Never again. 🙋👍🏎🏁 This proves a less restricted Manual Transmission is Faster. Porsche Cayman 6 speed in Road course beat an M4 Competition Automatic Transmission By 0.4 of a second. Allows Redline. 2 weeks ago I Bought the only White Mustang with a Proper 3rd Pedal 6 Speed Manual Transmission in California 🙋👍🏎🏁 good share
reading the various educated comments here tells me dont by into all the C8 hype and stupid rip offs in price. I had a 21 corvette HTC . just a regular car enthusiast and have had many sports cars . I had 2 encounters on highway strait away with Ford Rapter and Landrover supercharged SUV . both stayed right with me in fact slightly ahead up to 110 at which point I said ain't worth the ticket great cars but not at 10, 20, 30k over sticker.
The 150k ZR1 755HP LT5 2019 VETTE C7 wasn't talked about much . Dont see many videos on it .but as a previous corvette owner and how mine performed. That last C7 ZR1 is capable of beating anything stock thats out right now .its the demons nitemare.as far as the video the C7 ZO6 with 650 hp whoud beat the first gen.C8 .The new C8 ZO6 is a different story. The C8 in 2024 is finishing with a ZR1 AWD hybrid Twin Turbo with a 5.5 flat plane crank 800 hp That will be the last , fastest, and Quickest stock corvette ever made. then there going to all electric.like the C7 the ZR1 will end the C8 the same way. Thats the plan.
Why is the c8 so expensive but easily gets own by other cars like Mustang gt500, c7 corvette ? They just selling you the looks and because it’s a mid engine car
I get that altitude makes a difference. However, a 12.7 is REALLY bad! People have done 12.7 seconds for the 1/4 mile in STOCK Kia Stingers. I would at least expect the Corvette to stay in the 11s no matter what the altitude was.
I happen to own both a C7 Z06 and a C8 Z51 they are totally two different animals. The C8 is not a down turn in design. The mid engine car was a must to compete with the Euro supercars. Once the C8 Z06 and ZR1 are out it will be a different ball game. Stock Stingrays are just base cars it ridiculous to compare them to the top configurations of the other cars.
what I don't like about these videos is a lot of these cars aren't stock, so it's pointless whether it's a 2020 vette or a 2012 camaro like none of that sht is relevant once people start modding. So no point saying it's x car vs y car...doesn't matter if it's a minivan if it has a different engine, twin turbo, and all this other sht done to it
and to think some people say the C8 Stingray is or is close to a supercar.......... I thought supercar means being able to beat almost every other car.
@@havoc5872 lol then please enlighten us on what a supercar is. Is it one that barely gets below mid 11 sec quarter mile in 2022, like the C8? This car struggles against something like an M4/M3 comp
@@ShinyBlackRims It's a car designed for very high-performance and to go over 200 MPH. Not all supercars are designed to rival other supercars. The C8 was made for aerodynamics and high-performance.
@@shawncrawfordamerica1776 the C8 Stingray does not have high performance compared to Lamborghini, McLaren, or Ferrari. That is why it's not a supercar. It's a premium sports car. Most of its performance metrics are marginal improvements over the C7 stingray. The only thing it does a lot better is 0-60, but that is due to being mid-engine. C8 does not get 200 mph top speed. It does not have the power or aerodynamics for that. The Z51 package actually lowers the top speed. I'm a Corvette guy myself, so I can't believe you're claiming any of what you said.
I have no dog in the hunt. But the subject Corvette driver seems to be a novice. I suspect there is more in that car than he knows how to drive. I don't know if he would be that much faster. But the car is not getting it's full potential used.
lol bro i want a manual z06 but i cant get a hang of it. i am most likely gonna cop a auto 19 one and just wait until the c8 z06 is more avaliable. the c8s are nice but i think this is better to throw headers on with and go crazy lol