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How much to refit a sailboat? In the final of our total sailboat refit revisited mini-series, we reveal the total cost of a sailboat refit. We also discuss what went wrong, what worked and what we would do differently.
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00:00
02:15 What worked
05:36 What went wrong
15:15 Managing the project
19:05 Costs
21:43 More expenses
26:40 Bloopers
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@neemguy81 4 года назад

We miss Patrick, and Millie. You guys are great! Keep on keeping on.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We do too. 😔 Liz

@DStrayCat69 4 года назад

Awesome video :-) I've been following Patrick and Rebecca for a couple of years. The last video to date was named "Patrick's last storm". I was crushed. I had to pause it several times to dry my eyes. I could feel Rebeca's grief. The poor girl is lost and I expect she'll be that way for some time. It's wonderful that you dedicated this episode to them. I'll shut-up now...

@followtheboat 4 года назад

It's so awful. I couldn't get to the end of her video, but will watch it when I'm feeling stronger. Liz

@HandyMan657 4 года назад

Wow, thanks for the mention that was pretty cool. Also thank you so much for the tribute to Mr.Childress, he and I spent much time chatting and sharing information, he was quite the fellow. I will miss him dearly. As I mentioned earlier I will mourn Millie with you. Cheers to you both.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

So sad. Thanks for the kind words. We're missing Millie terribly. Liz

@nobody46820 4 года назад

Love the vid!🙂👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I saw Patrick had sailed into the sunset, I've been a subscriber of his for some time now, he even replied to my comments.🙂 I'm still missing Millie.😸 Prayers to you and Rebecca.🙏🏻

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We miss her terribly. 😔 Liz

@Ron-zr6se 4 года назад

That refit / rebuild was very economical and the level of workmanship quite satisfactory. All in all, she is a fine little ship and will serve you well for many more years.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks! Liz

@FeelItRising 4 года назад

you two are always so well prepared for these videos. Presented beautifully covering a ton of information.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Liz 🙏

@sailingwiththeerros9139 3 года назад

Your honesty and self discussion are gold for any want to be sailor/traveler. Cheers.

@twistedrace6885 4 года назад

I truly enjoyed what both of you had to say about the rebuild and I liked what I saw when the boat was finished . I was always curious about having it done in New Zealand for Thailand and now I know ... New Zealand for me. Enjoy the New Boat.. Robert North Star

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! Liz

@ABeriault 4 года назад

Thanks you so much for the friendly thumbs up! Your two are a great couple. We are all of us RU-vidrs quite depressed with Patrick’s dire end to covid19. Hopefully Rebecca will get back to her sailing life! Her clip was quite saddening and forced us to look at the whole world drama quite differently! Go safely...cheers.. oh and very sorry for your own cat loss!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Too many deaths recently, it's hard to bear. Liz 😔

@rabukan5842 4 года назад

I just restored a 50' Riva MY in Japan. This was mainly about replacing old equipment (generator, chargers, navigation equip., a/c, auto pilot, vhf, cleaning out the cooling system, replacing batteries, and overhauling the injection pump, adding a bimini and sun canopy) as the the hull is like new and the engines have less than 500 hours on them, and what you paid to rebuild your yacht was ridiculously cheap. To do what you did in the US would have been double, and even more here. Pretty amazing.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Good to know! Should be in Japan early 2022 if all goes to plan (would've been next year, but the virus or an end to that plan). Liz

@rabukan5842 4 года назад

Sailing followtheboat Yes, no tourists can come in, and we can’t go out. But, we have had 0 cases here in Okinawa in around 12 weeks. Hopefully by 2022 we’ll be over this pandemic and you can come visit Japan.

@feedyourhead7464 4 года назад

Glad your back. I’m a new fan and a future boater. I have learned a lot from you both in a short amount of time. Thanks for doing what do on RU-vid!!!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

That's a lovely comment! Thank you and welcome aboard! Liz 🙏

@beckydesancha3164 4 года назад

Thanks for your honesty about prices. We are re building... not re fitting... an Edel Cat 35. While also still working and building a house. ... to give extra income when we set sail. We started great keeping track of costs but have since lost track!! Doh!! Our problem is on a budget we are trying to do all the work ourselves but with 'day time jobs' time is our biggest problem. We set sail in October 2022 so feel there is time, but now pressure is on! Time flies!! I so enjoy watching your channel and gathering great info. Hope to meet you both somewhere in the World when we set sail. Your travels are how I hope to travel.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We have friends who've been rebuilding their 435 themselves for years! I hope you make the deadline, it creeps up fast… Liz

@themarketapprentice 4 года назад

Another fantastic video guys! My wife and I are 8 years away from selling up still and going off sailing the world! Your channel is one of our inspirations

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thank you, to inspire anyone is a blessing. 👌👍 Liz

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Wow that was a great summary, especially liked the bit about what you would do differently with hindsight. Thanks.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! You gotta be honest and we've had long enough to think about it now… Liz

@saylaveenadmearedead 4 года назад

Thanks for the tribute to Patrick Childess, and yes he did no nonsense videos and a rebuilding of Brickhouse that Rebecca can be safe and cozy with for many years. I had my worries about how Patrick was operating without a life vest and harness in his last video and some of the other things he advocated but also made full disclosure of it being his way.... In the end of the day, we are the lucky ones who can move around the world mostly by our own design!!!

@barbroevanderlindquist4128 4 года назад

Liz, your shirt/frock is marvelous! Barbro Sweden

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks! It's Finnish designer Marimekko for Uniqlo. 😁 Liz

@sailingbronco9869 4 года назад

Clearly you have done an outstanding job with your rebuild. Our first rebuild of Bronco was in Philippines where, like Thailand we found wonderful people with tremendous enthusiasm at a very reasonable cost. But they also had limited experience, inadequate resources and absent supervision they would often have to repeat projects at some additional expense. I wouldn’t recommend any refit or rebuild in either location without onsite management by an experienced owner. And even with that, you will most likely find that some of the work will need to be repeated at later date by experienced shipwrights. Yes more expensive but where reputations carry weight, mistakes are not tolerated. Since most owners have time considerations, having confidence that accomplish work was done professionally and at appropriate standards may be worth the extra expense. In either case, do your homework first so that you know ahead of time what the chosen path will most likely entail. Otherwise you will not enjoy your refit experiences.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thailand is a different ball game to the Philippines, there's a lot more expertise. Cheers, Liz

@allied1394 4 года назад

By the way I think u guys did an amazing job the boat is absolutely beautiful and given the craftsmanship and attention to detail you got every penny of your money’s worth in the USA this rebuild would’ve easily been 150,000$ to 200,000$ all in you guys made out really well

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks for the vote of confidence! Liz

@AW9531 4 года назад

Liz & Jamie - I have been doing a lengthy rebuild/refit, mostly be myself. Here in Canada, away from the major sailing centers, it is almost impossible to hire professional help. And when I can, the labour cost is CAD90 or GBP60/hour - very good quality and fast, BUT EXPENSIVE! When I bought the boat in the US/Chesapeake good work was readily available but the cost was even higher! For the scope & quality of work in Satun, I believe that you did very well!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! I think Thailand is one of the best places to get work done, the work ethic there is excellent. And it's a great way to get to know and cherish a new culture. Liz

@hoperules8874 4 года назад

Wow! You guys have such great content! Checking out Patrick's sight, too! Fair Winds!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks! Liz

@atakancivan22 2 года назад

I think Turkey is a really good place to get that kind of jobs done. Enjoy your boat. It looks amazing.

@denniscollins2032 4 года назад

I'm very sad on the passing of Millie. The same with Patrick. Good show, well designed. Sticker shock as I have to update my viewpoint to adjust for inflation.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We're still inconsolable about Millie. Sad times. 😔 Liz

@pnwesty7174 4 года назад

I'm absolutely no expert, but based on all the cost videos I've seen for refits, I can't see how you wouldn't crack $100,000+. Maybe the guy was right about worker efficiency in NZ, but cost of living in NZ for a flat would probably have been three times, for half as long? Add transport, travel, and food? I can't see it. Thanks for the work it took to summarize 13 months into 4 videos. I can't imagine. Hope you're both holding up.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We're doing OK, just sad at the moment. Yes, we think the labour costs and living expenses make it pretty unbeatable value. Liz x

@mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643 4 года назад

That's a good point about cost of living there.

@peterkacandes5905 4 года назад

Great review and summary. I’ve also been thinking of adding a drop down swim step, so good info on the spacing of the boards when it’s down.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yes, don't do it like us, leave nice, wide gaps. Cheers, Liz

@toms4123 4 года назад

Great series, not a re-hash but excellent summing up of the rebuilt. Very Good.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it, we hoped people would find some value in it. Liz 👍

@andersjakobsen9906 4 года назад

It’s so sad with Patrick and Milli ♥️♥️

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We're heartbroken. 😔 Liz

@maryetdave 4 года назад

Another thumbs up to you guys, RIP Patrick

@onawhim9079 4 года назад

That video hit the spot, answered all my questions and more, thank you.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Great! Thanks for letting us know. Liz 👍

@antayat123 4 года назад

So sorry to hear about your friend Patrick losing his battle. I'll check out his channel.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thank you. Liz

@jamelweatherspoon363 3 года назад

Absolutely impressive and informative series. True RU-vid resource.

@followtheboat 3 года назад

Cheers, glad you enjoyed it. 👍🙏 Liz The entire series, with detailed coverage of the jobs and life in a That boatyard, is here: ru-vid.com/group/PLoE3FmplhAXNsNWWZ6iTMzYYwKVtDanCr

@davidclarke7728 4 года назад

Another great vlog , very honest. RIP PC, Rebecca is a very brave lady.

@Ahm.nae-fou 4 года назад

I am afraid the quality of the work tradesmen in Europe deliver has deteriorated massively over the last 20 or so years whereas in Thailand it seems to have gotten a lot better, I have a lot more confidence when have work done in Thailand than in Germany or Switzerland. Friends in the UK even flew the tradesmen in from Thailand and the woodwork they had done is fantastic.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Wow, we haven't had similar work done in Europe, so can't comment, but we're happy with how it turned out in Thailand. 😁

@SVImpavidus 4 года назад

A great summary. So much information. Patrick would be smiling, adding a comment or two for sure! Sail Safe Guys, Ant, Cid & the pooch crew. xx

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yes, he often commented. Such a sad loss. 😔 Liz

@otherside2k3 4 года назад

Guys for the countertop consider Corian, if installed correctly it's extremely durable and you can keep buffing it up forever, stains scratches anything can be repaired with a bit of buffing. You can use it even for your cupboards and other areas.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yes, we looked at Corian at the time, but just couldn't afford it. We might go that way in the future. Liz

@darrenj3267 4 года назад

That was a really interesting episode. with regards to labour, you were paying £12 a day, back here in UK a relatively competent carpenter will charge £15 and hour and a good shipwrite will charge £25/hr so the UK version would have to be significantly more efficient than their Thai counterpart to make them more cost effective. My the time you have crossed the pacific to Japan and then pootled down to New Zealand, via Australia Esper may be ready for another refit so you will be able to compare the two centres and see which one makes most sence. Having said that you can't put a price on the peace of mind you get working with crafts people you trust and respect and the value you placed on the likes of Tong and Tui is pretty obvious. I know that one little heart beat has fallen silent on Esper and hope that you guys are finding comfort in looking through your old videos and remebering all the good times with Millie

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Working with all those people and becoming immersed in their culture was priceless and something we'll never forget. I don't think I could face (or afford) another refit of that size! There a big hole in our hearts, we are inconsolable, but thanks for the kind words. Liz 🙏

@jaquigreenlees 4 года назад

LOA 43 One Way Lift $201 Per Day Rate $40.77 Monthly $749 six months $498 These are Canadian, usually only 50% of the pound but you need to add 12% for taxes. The actual yard cost here would be less than you paid at PSS. The labour and materials, way higher at $100/hr or more per worker. $50/mo per person to live on the boat. power is metered, shower and laundry etc is available on site. Large supermarket not too far away and it is a marina, one of the lower cost ones in the area. 75 ton travel lift rates are what I posted, I didn't think you would be interested in the 250 ton travel lift rates. ;) It is a bit off the beaten track but fairly accessible. No problem about answering the questions, specially when I see them before you do.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! Liz

@bryanwatt9751 4 года назад

Thanks for the update on Sonbat! Well done for helping out his family.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

He's a wonderful fella. Liz

@scottskirrow1611 4 года назад

hey good on you guys for mention of Patrick's channel !!! I was a follower of his channel, hopefully she'll continue with it ! I totally enjoy your channel also !!! cheers Scott

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Visible news about Patrick. Thank you for enjoying our channel. Liz

@blueeyes532 4 года назад

Great video as usual, very informative as always 👍 And thanks for the tribute to Patrick Childress. Some months back I started to check out his videos on RU-vid, really a great guy. I am sad he is now gone.

@otherside2k3 4 года назад

Regarding cost, if you were to do it for example in Greece it would have taken twice as long, twice as expensive and half the quality you got and that is quite an industry here... I would imagine anywhere in Europe would have been insanely expensive... but i think for the whole project if it wasn't for your management style i would not have turned out the way it did.. you guys are stars

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thank you! Even in the best places, I think we'd want to be in site all day, every day. Cheers, Liz. 🙏

@svbarryduckworth628 4 года назад

We completely reupholstered the saloon with all new materials in the winter if 2017-2018 and after two years of full-time living aboard it is completely knackered. Lounging daily in extremely warm climates often with a lot of bare skin, sweating bullets all over it, skin oils, and just the wear and tear of sitting down and getting up multiple times a day and skootching around just beats it up something fierce. It is all getting threadbare. Ours is a small 35-foot sailboat and there just isn't a lot of different places to hang out inside. Our sitting and lounging spots get used constantly, every day. We spend some time out in the cockpit and on deck but because of bugs, heat, and sun it is often more comfortable inside the boat where it is cooler and bug-free. In the evening here one will get eaten alive outside once the sun goes down. Then over the last couple months of being in isolation for COVID-19 on anchor put the nail in the coffin. We were literally always home. The upholstery got no rest. There is no rehabilitation or cleaning of the upholstery but I believe the new foam can be reused when we redo the settees and nav desk cushions soon. We will use better material next rime bur I fear no matter how good it is reupholstery will be a regular job for us every few years.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yes, we recovered the foam, not a huge or expensive job. The new fabric is hardier and in a textured grey/brown doesn't show the marks too badly. Cheers, Liz

@svbarryduckworth628 4 года назад

Do you ever use any slipcovers over any of the high-traffic cushions? My wife hates the feel of polyester fabrics and often will put a sarong or towel on her side of the settee. If anything her side is more threadbare than mine where I do not bother. Maybe a fitted cover would work better, and could be washed regularly. But at that point why bother reupholstering anyhow if it is always going to be covered? When we started cruising the wear and tear on cushions wasn't even on my radar. On land furniture often lasts decades. We never realized how in a smaller space the few nooks and sitting spaces would so much more harder used. We made a custom-fit padded mattress pad cover on each cushion in the sleeping area of the V-berth as well as a couple sets of fitted sheets. We refoamed those cushions too but were able to save the original upholstery covers from 1976 and they still look pretty good now too. That adds credence to the thought that slipcovers are the way to go on the settees. Time to get out the sewing machine again.

@andrewmedeiros655 Год назад

4 ought steel wool for the stainless. Works like magic on brushed, polished, chrome, aluminum

@Bradley_Clark 4 года назад

This was the perfect ending episode to this series. Very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing! Thumbed

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thank you, I'm glad you found the series interesting. 👍 Liz

@bartwesp4303 4 года назад

Great mini series. I watched most of the original content and found it generally informative. Fine work.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the retrospective. Liz

@LowtideLarsky 4 года назад

I’d say off the top of my head it would cost you at least double to have that done in a professional boatyard here in BC Canada. Excellent work all of you 🤙🏽

@followtheboat 4 года назад

This seems to be the consensus, I'm sure you're right. Cheers! Liz

@smartmonkey777 4 года назад

The capacitor(s) is used to limit current , led's can take quite a wide range of voltages but burn out with too much current.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

You're right, we could have discussed this in more detail, but didn't have time! Cheers, Liz

@smartmonkey777 4 года назад

@@followtheboat haha, its ok thats why i added this...

@saylaveenadmearedead 4 года назад

I purchased 2 under counter indirect lights of multiple bulbs and wired them directly to the battery bank but they get quite hot. Should I put a rectifier, regulator or capacitor on each?

@zed6067 4 года назад

Watched your whole refit series and others which are great. You mentioned the new engine and there are videos on new sails, Code 0, lithium batteries, dinghy and other replacements so I would be interested to know how much these cost too as these add the investment in your superb new home.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

There's a video on the price of our sails and I think we mention the cost of our lithium set-up in the episode on going lithium too. Most of these are upgrades or replacements, though, and many other smaller items which wear out having to be being replaced too. It's an on-going project!

@dazthesailor6363 4 года назад

Based on my costs of “upgrading” my 12 year old Sun oddessey , rigging , through hull, some electric upgrades etc I think you did really well ! As liz said it was a rebuild which is more extensive than a refit .. love you guys keep up the good work ❤️

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thank you for that. Liz 👍🙏

@rosiesails3947 4 года назад

Thank you so much! You have given me so many things to look at and ideas for my refit. My boat is on the hard in Trinidad and I am thinking of doing all of my mechanical and rigging there and then going to Thailand for all the fiberglass, carpentry and painting. I will be documenting our refit on RU-vid as well, if nothing else something to look back on. How do you think the 6mm of teak has held up in the cabin? Different subject - do you know Celestial Navigation? If not do you both want to learn? I have an idea that we can trade some skills if your interested. I also finished the entire shipyard/refit series, one good thing of being in isolation, lol. Very sad to hear about Patrick I subscribe to their channel as well. Thank you again! Jim

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks for commenting! Yes, the teak had held up, the only problem has been where we've dropped things on it, so now it has 'character'. 😆 Other than that, it still looks beautiful. Liz

@Rama_Guru 4 года назад

thanks so much or your honesty... wish you the best.... this makes me think I would be better to buy a new boat or an old Indonesian one that has value. thanks so much for your work!!!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Your welcome! We'd never buy new (unless we were rich). 😆 Liz

@69yearsago97 Год назад

What a beautiful boat, inside and out 😍👍 Is she referring to the office as a "boffice"? 😂👍 I'm going to steal that

@followtheboat Год назад

😁

@alansailing1387 4 года назад

As long as the Thai workers are more than 1/8th as productive and a New Zealand worker you are ahead getting the work done in Thailand.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We're pretty happy with our Thai workers. 😉 Liz

@DappaDogs 4 года назад

Hi guys. My wife and I have been watching a number of your videos and been very impressed. We have a Sunbeam 44 and in the next few months we are about to embark on the start of our journey. I have a quick question. As you have spent most of your time overseas and not resident in the UK, did you become liable for the country's tax laws, or does it work some other way? Look forward to hearing from you, Tom & Kim

@followtheboat 4 года назад

You can choose to pay tax in any country you reside, as I understand it. We continue to pay taxes in the UK as we still have ties there.

@davidfrost1428 4 года назад

Awesome info, thanks, this is a great channel. So shocked about Patrick but he leaves us with all his awesome info also. I’ll be learning from him for a long time.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

🙏👍😔

@tarivard 4 года назад

I’ve refit two boats on my own using the expertise of a yard to handle projects out of my scope of knowledge. I would struggle to get the same quality of work and attention to detail that you managed to achieve in Thailand based on your budget. Well worth doing it there. I’ve only sailed once there on a friend’s Bruce Roberts 44 and loved it over there. I’ve been back a couple of times but not sailing.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

If you get the chance to sail over here, we'd recommend it! 🙏 Liz

@saylaveenadmearedead 4 года назад

@@followtheboat what are the possibilities for picking up a good used sailing 40 foot sailboat in that area?

@jeremymitchell995 4 года назад

Very interesting guys...one thing you did not mention (you may have covered this below already...sorry if you have) is you need also to offset your yearly costs you would have had without the refit. Great job though and thanks for the video.

@bayanicustodio3998 4 года назад

I get the feeling the trade off is over the variable of time. Which is a big factor whether you have it or not. NZ or the Med might be fine if you want things done fast since parts are more readily available but if you have time to wait and source parts all over the world for bargains I would go with cheaper labour costs and possibly lower parts cost. Not to mention the ability to be more immersed in the local culture. 👍🙂

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yes, we still think it was cheaper in Thailand, even though it might have been quicker in Europe. But immersing ourselves in a new culture - you can't put a price on that. Liz 🙏

@michaeltillman1147 4 года назад

Wonderful video as usual. Listening to you guys talk of the expenses I have to wonder if it wouldn't be a close call at minimum or better in the long run to just get a new boat? Especially if , like me you are thinking of getting an older boat to refit/rebuild for living aboard. 😎

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We laid out the reasons why it would not have been possible to get a new boat at the same spec as Esper in Part 1, also in the blog post (link in description). Cheers, Liz

@acadeca8006 4 года назад

solid video, thank you for the crash course!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! Liz

@philiporourke7896 2 года назад

Great vid, thanx.

@simonhantler8062 4 года назад

im a tradesman in NZ and cost for skilled carpenter is $650 a day compared to $25 in thailand. i would say NZ would be twice the cost but less headaches and world class shipwrites.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks for the info! Liz

@mikehortin9964 3 года назад

A wonderful result Did you notice many steel vessels being worked on at PSS?

@followtheboat 3 года назад

Plenty. They're more than capable of helping out with steel boats.

@DriftfishCo 4 года назад

17:28 Yay! Thanks for the mention!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

You're welcome! Liz

@MonkPetite 4 года назад

If you have a victron mppt there is a second out put , one you can programme to give exactly the output needed .

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks for the heads up. We know the Victron mppt is really good kit and would have bought one of we hadn't already got it current model. Maybe something to think about for the future… Liz 🙏

@jeffpargetter9038 4 года назад

Lovely tribute to Patrick 😘👌

@followtheboat 4 года назад

🙏😔

@gavingrantham136 4 года назад

Liz & Jamie, a RU-vid channel "Sailing Lady Africa" that bought an old Dean 365 in South Africa, did show their progress from start to finish as they gutted and rebuild their Cat, over a two year period (11/2017 - 02/2020) with the costs at the end in the region of $110K.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing! Liz

@clayfarnet970 4 года назад

Well done, that was an incredible job.Thanks for sharing your detailed info with us. Now I’m really depressed. 😂😂👍👍

@followtheboat 4 года назад

😁😃😆

@paulharriman1901 4 года назад

Copper is antibacterial so a good choice for the countertop and handles

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yes, but it would be too much for me I'm afraid. Love it, just not as a large work surface. Liz

@davidncw4613 4 года назад

Thank you so much for the shout out to Patrick and Rebecca.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

So bloody sad. Liz

@SailingDecorum 4 года назад

thanks for sharing all the little details

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Your welcome! Liz

@stangiles2001 3 года назад

lovely work by good people

@Yacov 4 года назад

RIP Patrick

@followtheboat 4 года назад

😔❤️

@R.E.HILL_ 4 года назад

Was it worth it...? In addition to you guys saying it was... it made a lot of very cool videos for us to watch... 🙂👍

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! Liz

@mentonish 4 года назад

ANOTHER GREAT REVIEW

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! Liz

@trevhedges 4 года назад

Thanks guys!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

You're welcome! Liz

@lkm5462 4 года назад

Also another way to look at it is how many years before you have to do this level again. I believe the yearly price is fairly small when you look at it like that. 62k decided by six years mean a 10k cost per year. That’s pretty small. If it last more years the number goes down more per year.Yes I know there will be other things to fix. I’d rather live in Thailand than most other places in that area anyway. No matter the cost for the boat your not living that cheap in most other parts of the world for that length of time and I think that is not debatable. Love your show and the info you provide

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks! We've been giving serious thought to ending up back in this part of the world of we ever decide to settle on land. 🙏 Liz

@sebell69 5 месяцев назад

you guys pretty much bought a new boat! at 61,485 pounds ($78,415.82) and that's in Thailand imagine if you had done the refit in England/Scotland or the USA (I dont think they are that capable maybe in the NW coast)

@dreadnoughtb3364 4 года назад

Another great video thank you two for sharing this amazing journey. Keep it up

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks! Glad to have you aboard. Liz

@scottgenius9189 4 года назад

Your rebuild would have cost a lot more in the Uk and the quality of carpentry work is top notch in Thailand awesome rebuild !

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Cheers! Liz

@mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643 4 года назад

I don't know if I'd call that a refit, but far closer to a rebuild. I haven't rebuilt boats, but I've built enough homes to compare that to gutting a house and rebuilding within the bones and refinishing the outside. The finished job looks great. It always amazes me how live aboard sailors can take an older boat gut it and rebuild it while absolutely put the original interior designer to shame.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

It was a 'rebuild', that's for sure! Cheers, Liz

@carlosd.atkinson4832 4 года назад

Awesome episode, thanks for sharing!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks! Liz

@stangiles2001 3 года назад

great wiring job

@AthelstanEngland 4 года назад

I can't see how costs in NZ, Europe etc would be even close... double seems unlikely more like four or five times as much I would have thought. If you are paying £12 per day as opposed to perhaps £120-£200 per day even accounting for more efficiency it seems unlikely. And then £80 per month for accommodation! It's not even close. Great mini series. Only just found your channel from a post about losing your cat Mille - very sad. :(

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We're still mourning Millie, she's left a big hole. We agree that when you take everything into consideration, we're glad we did all this work in Thailand. Cheers, Liz

@alienemperor 2 года назад

Just found your channel today, what a wealth of great content. Fascinating to be able to jump between 15 years ago, 8 years ago and today. I‘m curious, do you have a video about buying the boat in the first place? I‘d love to know the price you paid for it, and the state it was in at that point.

@followtheboat 2 года назад

Hello and welcome aboard! You've got a lot of videos to get through, including all the extras in our playlists! Unfortunately we only started videoing in 2014, but our blog goes all the way back to 2002, before we bought Esper and before Liz and I met! Check out followtheboat.com/

@followtheboat 2 года назад

We made a video about boat buying which might be interesting? Liz - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PQyn02VT1jY.html

@alienemperor 2 года назад

@@followtheboat wow! I just scrolled through and found tons of interesting stuff that I‘ll have to read. However, I didn’t find anything about buying the boat. I‘d be happy with a rough estimate of price and age. It‘d be interesting because with the rebuild she‘s practically new, and I think that’s an absolute bargain.

@alienemperor 2 года назад

@@followtheboat thank you, I will take a look!

@michaelcalvert-smith4583 Год назад

This is very interesting, and a bit late but... how much knowledge did you have before the refit started. You are obviously very knowledgable but I wonder how much was picked up along the way. Once again, excellent vids 😄

@followtheboat Год назад

We knew nothing! Common sense and plenty of general business sense probably helped? Liz

@slavek033 3 года назад

24v led strips are very bright about 15W/m and they can be dimmed

@quoctrinh6064 3 года назад

Can you show us your new boat inside out . Thanks

@bobrose7900 4 года назад

You've made me weep with how cheap it was - I would say you could have multiplied the costs by 10 (yes 10) if it had been done in the Solent, and had a much worse job. So well done!

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Blimey, I had a sneaking suspicion it would be more expensive in the US, but 10 times a much? Wow! 🤔 Liz

@peternorton7665 4 года назад

that blouse looks nice on you Liz

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Awww, thank you! Liz

@lnewbyliveca 4 года назад

The stainless alone in Canada would be 30+ CND

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Yeah…it'd look good though.😉 Liz

@englishrose1122 4 года назад

I’m confused as I watched a refit you did a while ago. Is this a second refit? Just got notification MILLY has died. Please explain the timeline if you don’t mind. How many refits have been done? xxxx from the UK

@jaquigreenlees 4 года назад

This is going over that original year long refit and giving a summary of it.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Correct! Thanks, Jaqui. Liz x

@TheRealSasquatch 4 года назад

£61k for all that work at that quality - incredibly reasonable.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We agree. Liz 🙏

@peterkacandes5905 4 года назад

A quick dab of KiwiGrip will give you non-skid at the mast base.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Thanks for the heads up! Liz

@bryanwatt9751 4 года назад

Wow, that's some serious dosh! Did you consider a fresh start on a newer boat?

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We weigh up the different options in Past 1, it was never a possibility to do that. Cheers, Liz

@ramosmceligot6223 2 года назад

THE CRUST ON HIS MOT

@lydiaajohnson 4 года назад

I had no idea Patrick Childress passes away. I am so so so sad. He was a worthy old salt who used his channel to mentor us. I will miss his videos. Seems unfair that his life ended due to a stupid tiny microbe. My heart goes out to Rebecca. She will continue to be an elder in this amazing community of cruisers. That said, the two of you are worthy elders as well. Patrick would probably appreciate you taking his mantle along with Rebecca. This comes as quite a surprise.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

Sad times. Liz

@kevinfisher1345 4 года назад

Is it cheaper, meh really difficult. As brought up the time or efficiency of time, the costs of importing, etc will likely offset this. There is also the factor of simply easier networking and obtaining items is so much easier in your own country and language. So would not be surprised if it is a case by case basis in which could be or could not be. HOWEVER, the quality of the craftsmen and work imho makes it all worthwhile. Sure you can get good quality elsewhere as well, but not at that labour cost as you will end up paying even more then the standard rates for such quality. So many places simply does not have the vast amounts of many of these trades anymore to such standards in larger numbers. What I can say is you got a good deal for all of that work, in which yes I am sure could be done elsewhere as well, but regardless you got a good deal and quality work that anyone should be happy with such results.

@followtheboat 4 года назад

We're happy with the results and believe they did a good job. Cheers, Liz