Very good numbers. I have a third floor, 2bd room in Tavros. Across fromTela Performance. I pay: rent 150€, building fee 70€, internet 20€, Netflix 10€, electric 80€ 2 months, water 35€ 3 months. Shop at the Lidl for about 100€ a month. Take at least 5 coffee out each day, see movies, have lunch out total is 150€ each month. Fly round trip from Phoenix $750. A damn steal to live in paradise..... 550€ a month to live...$750 to fly...
I went for vacation and stayed for 2.5 months with $3500 and that was with renting a car for a full month. and Airbnb'ing everywhere. and eating out every day. So affordable on US Salary!
Advice as a Greek : if you really wanna move here skip Athens. I know there are more job opportunities but the stress and hectic lifestyle is unprecedented. Moreover it's just a concrete, dirty, ugly jungle at this point. There are far more beautiful, liveable and cheap places in the country, both on the islands and the mainland.
The rent prices in Athens in a decent neighborhood are so high!!!! And wages low. I am looking for an apartment in Athens right now and it’s crazy how expensive it is. I am thinking maybe I should try another country. Airbnb has ruined housing in Greece. Such a shame. And landlords seem greedy. The places are not that nice. AND most the time there is an agent fee! If you go in the common websites like Spitogatos and inquire about a place, you meet the owner and the agent at the apartment and you have to pay the agent one month rent!? It’s insane, and they barely did anything.
Hello and congrats for your video. Some updates. First of all the basic salary now is 700€. The electricity depends hoe big is your apartment and if you take any help of the gov. For example mine is 40 mq and in summer is 15€ and winters 25€. The most convenient hitting is a gas stove tgat cost you 300 the cheapest. (30€ a bottle/monthly). Food cost you about 150 to 250. Taxis in the day start for 3,40 and in the night is double. Smoke per packet is 8€. Drink in a bar is 8€. Coffee depends, for an espresso 2,50 (im half Italian and im struggling). For clothes, tools, gadgets, home wearing and accessories in Greece is not convenient and probably y need to bring from abroad. I put a cooking vent in my suitcase because doesn't have anything here and isn't cheap. The cat probably cost y 30€. I hope y have the health insurance otherwise y need to pay s lot in docs and hospitals. Gas now is 2,40. Everyone os using cars but complains every sec. Y forgot to say good luck with the greek shitty mentality 🙄. Im 🇬🇷🇮🇹.
I totally agree, considering the salary you get the cost of living it's way too expensive, everything costs a lot. I mean say that the average wage is around 1000 euro monthly, net of course, it's still a damn lot. a nice apartment 50 sqm, is about 600 euro in a cheap area, food 200 euro, electricity as you said, the internet around 25 monthly, at the end of the month you're left with few quids, and if you want to go out well be prepared to fork out 10 euro for a cocktail and not in an exclusive area... What I found strage is that usually where salaries are very low some products are cheap, as the price of goods is tailored to the minimum wage. In Greece it seems tailored to the western Europe average but it's blatantly ridiculous and even more ridiculous is the fact that it's tollerate by politicians, syndicates
Actually prices in Greece are relatively expensive because there are many wealthy Greeks that push the prices up, foreign 'investors' from other mostly European countries, personal interests (considering corruption is very high for an European country), apartments are going to get sold out by local/foreign investing companies in order to put them on rent, heavy production is almost absent and most products have to be imported, while mostly tourists bring revenue to the country etc.
greece is unlivable!very few jobs,bad paying ones,bad working conditions combined with expensive supermarkets and very expensive and bad quallity houses,problematic internet in most cases.....so sad!i would safely say the cost of living as a descent human being in greece is 1000-1200€ and the vast majority of wages are about 550€
@@GetawayJamie i was searching for similar videos about Netherlands that i intend to migrate after this shitvirus settle down and i was curious to see if anyone is mad enough to come to my country!and sadly i agree that it will get worse as time passes.you see we were problematic as a country years before and joining euro and the so called crisis of 2008 and what was forced to greece by eu was disasterous and just postponed what must and will happen.the country will default in the future as it should have done
I've got a job offer paying 1100€ /month gross to live in Athens. But my wife only speaks Portuguese (BR) and I think she would not get any job. I believe the net income would become something around 850€ / month. Would this be enough to have as a decent human being ? (In your point of view, of course)
According to an online calculator this is 884€ net. If your wife works too, then it's gonna be quite alright. But for 2 people I think you're going to barely make it. That's based on my standards though.
@@standardlatinohumanwithout greek language i don't think there are a lot opportunities to find a job.i don't even know how easy it is to find one speaking only english.if you both could make this income you would be alright!but honestly greece is only good for vacations ,i wouldn't recommend it.best of luck
Γειά σου Jamie, εδώ ο Carlos από την Κόστα Ρίκα. Living in San José (capital of my country) can be even more expensive than living in Athens. Of course, it depends on where you decide to settle down. There are many places where the monthly rent goes absurdly up to more than $1000 for a tiny one bed appartment. But there are other places where you can get a nice 3 bedroom house for half of that. And please don't talk about buying an appartment... I have seen 1 bedroom small ones in about $186000!!!!! and you end paying about $700 - $900 per month for about 30 years + maitenance fees... that is impossible to pay!
@@GetawayJamie Αλήθεια λες! That's an ongoing conversation in certain sectors of the government: how to make house buying accessible to middle class. But three hasn't been a real willingness to solve it. Middle class isn't poor enough to receive government subsidies but it isn't rich enough to classify at the banks to get money to buy/build one. We are trapped!
Well, it's around 1.60 - 1.70 for Athens. At dinner islands it's around 1.90 - 2 euros!!! And you really have to consider the salary differences we have we Sweden. Then you'll see it's a rip off!
@@GetawayJamie You are very correct, I didn't think of the salary difference! My bad. Anyways me and my gf are moving to Athens, that's the reason I found your channel. You earned a subscriber and a like from me!
@@GetawayJamie this is the only way, or work in near by euro country during off season and come back for summer time. Too many decades of corrupt politicians selling off greece and stealing billions and ZERO jail time. Papandreau and mitsotakis family and others of course.
@@GetawayJamie Also brother, can someone explain to me why the Greek Government is not spending more money trying to mine precious minerals and materials from our rich waters and mines? It would enrich the Greek people and economy!
It's the same deal in Turkey, komşu. It's so sad that you guys have the same problems too. Outsiders say the same thing here too which it appears that they don't know how the economy works in capitalist systems. The general population's wealth determines the costs generally. Looks like these problems are some kind of Mediterranean thing which the same patterns somewhat happening in Italy and Spain too, especially in the Southern side of Italy. And Spain somewhat has trouble with its real estate and unemployment rate. They are still better than us though. Anyway, I hope both of our countries will be better in the future!
I'm sorry that that's the case in Turkey too. I've visited Istanbul last year and though everything was cheaper than in Greece, I can't imagine what your salaries are and how expensive everything may look to you. 😟
@@GetawayJamie well it still depends to the regions in Istanbul because it's a huge city. You can find every kind of price in there but with some downsides obviously. But for instance, i live in Yalova City and minimum wage in Turkey is 2.825 Turkish lira (which not every job will pay you that and working hours is super long in here generaly). Houses are generally in between 1500 to 1800 again it changes with region. For instance there are houses under 1000₺ and around 1000₺ in this City. And in the East side of country, you can find really cheap prices something like 600₺. But in Istanbul oh man if you wanted to live in a good region, you need to pay at least 3000 ₺ (which almost all of the great jobs in here). But there are still great regions with great prices in Anatolian side of the city i'll give that. Our economy suffers from inflation (that's the main problem in here. Bigger than real estate and currency problem because from electricity to food, this effected prices horribly which main drive point for currency crisis too) to currency crisis (which that's why it felt so much cheeper to you guys and also make things hard for us. This makes oil prices super high with luxury products. For instance i gave 400₺ for a "budget" 50 dollar mouse just four days ago) with Corona's great hit to our Summer touristic revenue. Which i believe it happened in Greece too. + Unemployement rate is really high. Somewhere between 12 to 14 and it was always like this, before the currency crisis too.
@@GetawayJamie sadly yes. There's no better way than hope that future holds better things for our countries, region and in general the world and pray for that.
You can enter the country with a negative test as well. The only thing that the vaccination passport is necessary so far is for indoors dinning or drinking!
For fully furnished either Airbnb or spitogatos.gr (the latter has all kinds of houses). But don't expect to get good deals with fully furnished since unfurnished is the norm.
How to find private landlords, to lease a part of their house, or maybe a one-bedroom apartment. do you know of any website like Craiglist? from Athens, Greece?
I rented a one room apartment on the roof of a house in Kaminia. No need to pay for heating in the summer, it was so hot I couldn't stay inside and often had to sleep on the terrace. Actually does anyone pay for heating in the summer?
How much is the tax if you have your own house, for example 2 bedroom 60m2 in suburbs, and how much is tax or basic insurance for an average car? In Serbia I pay 350e for all expenses on average living in my house with a car and the salary is 350 - 400e for most people. The yearly registration, technical check and insurance all in one is about 250e for cars up to 2000cc and 500 for cars above that
I guess that by tax you mean the cost. Weirdly enough the suburbs are most times more expensive than the city center due to the fact that many neighborhoods in the city of Athens have been depreciated and become quite unsafe to live in. But considering the cheaper suburbs, I'd say that a 2bed apartment would cost about 350 - 400€ (maybe more), car insurance about 250€ per year, the yearly car tax would be around 240€ for a 1400cc car (cost increases or lowers depending on ccs) and the bi-yearly inspection would be around 70€.
@@GetawayJamie not rent, by tax I mean the council tax or whatever it's called, the thing that you pay to the government/municipality for owning a property when you are the owner of a house. As for neighborhoods, which of these would you choose, Kineta, the Lagonisi/Anavissos part or Rafina/Artemida? I am hoping to become a programmer in the future and if I get a remote job, these places look like where I would love to live, but I'm not sure about costs, I think Lagonisi is a bit more expensive, that Rafina is a bit too far and without good road connections, so maybe Kineta is the best choice because it's connected with a highway?
It's a yearly tax of about 150-200€ but depends on the area. All areas are quite far away from the city center, especially Kineta. I would probably prefer Lagonisi but not my cup of tea either.
@@zeljkothegreekserb lagonissi/anavissos areas are perfect for what you seek. These areas are very close to Athens area, it's a 40 minutes drive to the city center, and 20 minutes to the cool seaside suburbs of south Athens! The job you want to have is ideal, if you are not employed and taxed in Greece. Try to be employed by an EU company outside of Greece, and you can have some great tax incentives, and of course a much higher wage than the average greek, which will let you live with a very high standard
Just got back from Athens. Almost nobody wears a mask outside. In museums it’s 100% mandatory. Public transit is maybe 95% masked. Restaurants and shops is less than 50%. Overall it felt very normal! Spent 10 days in 4 different cities and tested negative for COVID.
i don't belive such things...if rents rise it's impossible salaries go down...this is a market rule. of course there are young people with 550 euro salary but i belive there is a lot of black market or there are peoples who have higher salaries.this is the market rule. if you see flats with 700 euro rent it means there is someone who pays for it,when you see all tavernas full...all bars full...i can't belive people live with 100 euros per month...something doesn't turn..
Don't forget the big Greek economic crisis that occurred in 2009. Since then salaries have taken a downfall but haven't recovered yet to their previous amounts. The big rent price rise had occurred the last 2-3 years due to high Airbnb demand, which in turn raised the long term lease demand. The 700€ rent price obviously isn't for everyone and usually is for families with kids in good areas. As for the salaries, of course there is some black market, but don't expect many older people getting paid more than 900€. That's why many still live with their parents even at the age of 40+
I think 'black money' is the norm. But so many Greeks still getting help from their families. Older people have small pensions, but no bills. They help their kids....
There is a relatively big percentage of self employment in Greece , so the salaries are not good but quite a few Greeks make more money than a salary. Also many young or middle aged people live in houses they have inherited, because luckily the older generations built and bought a lot and couples share the bills of course! But for young people who have an average salary, live alone and have to rent, it is very hard lately because many owners want to turn their apartment into Airbnb and the prices go up.
