Could anything change Carlsen's mind to play in the World Championship? 

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For viewer also less time & more game is interesting to watch, just look at world cup rapid tiebreak & blitz tiebreak has more view.

He doesn't want to get rid of it but to less the time so that pure talent and skill in chess will be played like what happening now, players tend to prepare based on computer suggestion not a natural preparation. What they do is to memorize or remember what the best computer suggestion on the next moves.

Does 45+45 mean 45 minutes plus 45 minutes after a number of moves?

@@themitickgamer 45 minutes starting time plus 45 seconds increment per move.

Slight correction. Rapid is 15+10

Even 45+10 is sufficient. 45 +45 more than sufficient I don't know why u need one half hours plus 30sec still ending up in time pressure then 30m again added. Best is 45+10 then may be adding another 15m .this will be better more fun .still this would last three hrs easily

Whatever your daddy Magnus say alright?!

@@aminesosa8676 no, I would actually love this format even if your mom proposed it.

@@Tx66 You're an old man get off Magnus' meat.. I know what they be calling you when you walk down the street.. "there goes the f@g!!"

There are other events for the audience but this one is to determine who's the best player in the world.

I honestly don't know how they would feel about that. Have any of them commented on it? If he was saying this as an excuse for losing, that's one thing, but he's saying this after winning which says a lot more.

@@lanceareadbhar No one has commented that I know of. My thinking is just that 2 classical games in the same day at the highest level would be extremely tiring. Even with 1 game a day, longer tournaments have multiple rest days in between.

@@lanceareadbhar what excuse he is five time we undisputed champion nobody close to him

with a shorter time control, playing 2 games a day will be much more feasible. shorter time controls + 2 games per day selects for the most talented individual with the most endurance. given that magnus has lost interest in classical chess, it is only natural for him to want a format that is more talent based with less preperation involved. in the current format, it is still up for debate whether or not he would even win the candidates.

@@kairon5249 At current classical time controls (90 min + increment), there are frequently games that last multiple hours. At 60 min + increment, there would still be multi--hour games, even if they might not be quite as long as they are now. No one is going to want to play another classical game against a top-level opponent after having already played a multi-hour game earlier that day.

Classical 9LX?

@@nicbentulan now that I think of it, it would be very cool to add a chess 960 day too

If such a thing existed, it wouldn't be called the world championship. The idea of the world classical championship is that it's the world classical championship. There is a world rapid championship and a world blitz championship, there is a fisherandom world championship too. Each of these formats has it's own, it only makes sense. If what you're proposing existed, it would be it's own thing.

@@rohan1864 in the beginning of the world chess championship time formats didn't even exist! It has always been evolving

​@@rohan1864 world chess championship has always been with classical because of the history, it's always the legacy that carries the title,with time newer championship got added up but it's time to make it all in one,One chess championship,the original one with it's history and glory and new format to include the changing times.

Why 100?

That's not what Magnus is saying technically, but it's understandable because Magnus didn't say anything about 9LX. The opposite of classical chess is fast chess OR classical 9LX OR fast 9LX. Fast = intuition Slow = calculation 9LX = talent Chess = talent & theory Fast 9LX & fast chess hardly have much difference. Magnus wants more classical 9LX. There's no prep, but there's still all the calculation of classical chess.

@@nicbentulan Good point!

Solid calculation is a skill

Well i don't believe that the WCC was boring as it had the biggest viewership ever. If Magnus doesn't want to play again, good for him. The world will go on and without him.

@@1001011011010 I didn't say otherwise.

He will not play he has won everything why will he waste time

Already just concluded fide world cup there this is good format

That's called a tournament. We have tournaments all the time. The WC should be a match.

I respect this opinion, but I disagree. Even from a viewer's perspective, the narratives and rivalries that come out of WCC matchups (Karpov-Kasparov for instance) feel much weightier and more memorable than what we'd have if the winner was crowned via tournament. Plus we would probably have more rotation between champions, which would dilute the tradition somewhat. I think the idea of simply reducing the games to an hour plus increment is a good one.

​@@michaellisinski2822The Kasparov vs Karpov rivarly was kinda a one time thing in chess history. Even though Kasparov got the better of Karpov in every championship, the matches were always so close and Kasparov won only by a game or two each time. The only one who came close to the level of Magnus was Fabio in 2018. In the other championships Carlsen was always the clear favorite.

@@michaellisinski2822 I rather have a format that avoids 1vs 1 precisely because modern engine preparation makes it really hard to be original. When you are preparing for several opponents the preparation is more a general preparation and different situations arise. Still its just an opinion.

No

​@@sdragon28yes

Yeah thats what the world rapid and blitz championships are for. Just watch that if you want fun gun blazing matches. But keep it separate from the good old classical chess.

I agree noone should be above FIDE.

@@helenawells3869 but Magnus brought lot of reputation fide can never bring

@@rajsub3884 I agree that Magnus has made the game so popular and has inspired a entire generation of players but still.

You do realize that Magnus didn't propose to give up on classical, right?

@@yusouph2002 Yes he only proposed a time control change for thr Candidates tournament because he is tired of playing against 20+ computer moves.

Chad? He literally said he does not put pressure on Fide whatsoever. In this regard and actually in every aspect I can think of Fischer had a much bigger balls to say whatever he wants.

You young kids are so soft nowadays, it seems even the slightest opinion someone have is like a sign of some huge mental power 😂

@@aleksdobrev1486 Fischer had a mouth, and it did not serve him well. They are similar in many ways, and one of them is being "done with chess" before they were dethroned. Magnus just doesn't care about the Title anymore, would rather play poker.

​@@aleksdobrev1486Fischer is extremely overrated because he's an American and played chess during the Cold war and when US and Russians had bad blood.

@@Josuke217 the man destroyed the entire soviet chess machine all by himself and obliterated the best chess players in the world 6-0 and you mister nobody say he is nobody. 🤡

that’s literally the world blitz championship and world rapid championship

But most of world champion are decided on shorter time control. Previous era is over nobody can be struck in past .Magnus is way strong . Tradition keeps changing those days engine not there these days there can't compare the era

u mean boring

I fell asleep

I sleep

Still classical result decided on blitz

​@@rajsub3884rapid

well i mean magnus isnt making any demads, hes just saying what he likes better since he was asked and i agree with you.

Magnus makes hell lot of money through his company

120 minutes, +60 minutes at move 40, +15 minutes and 30 second increment at move 60.

@@FlashGamer521 yikes

Most open tournaments use 90+30, it's just major events (like the World Championship) that use the classical.

No one cares, You don't spam hate on magnus anymore because everyone kept reporting you and you're scared your channel is going to be gone, HAHAHA. I was someone who reported you on every single one of my accounts, because you're crazy. You think Wesley So is the best chess player just because he's from the Philippines like you.

​​@@JasonHernandez-ix3ru Why do you say no one cares when Magnus wants more classical 9LX? Justin? Ian Nepomniachtchi is more talented than Magnus Carlsen in classical & rapid and is more talented than Wesley So in rapid. What's the problem? Nepo is Jewish single citizen Russian. I'm gentile Christian dual citizen of hk & ph. So explain that? Better isn't the same as more talented. There's no shame in admitting Nepo is more talented than Wesley So in rapid. Of course rapid 9LX is hardly worth as much to Bobby Fischer as classical 9LX. Even Magnus wants classical 9LX.Hahahaha pathetic Magnus fans. What a huge dilemma you have. What huge cognitive dissonance. You can't reconcile your overlord's failure in both classical and rapid 9LX with your overlord's favouring classical 9LX over classical chess. What do you say to that? How can you possibly discredit 9LX but be a fan of Magnus? I hate magnus all the time in my channel why not go there and report me? Magnus is a ra()st cheater and TALENTLESS patzer. I'm glad to know you hold me in such high regard in that you log in and out of all those accounts just for me. Thanks for being such a fan! But just because I hate Magnus doesn't mean I disagree with everything Magnus says. You know Gasai I don't even speak Tagalog, Filipino or Cebuano, and I wasn't even born in the Philippines? Lol. --- I'm often asked why I hate Magnus Carlsen and am obsessed w/ Wesley So & Bobby Fischer. Good questions. --- Why does Magnus play 3 gentile non-American cheaters Sébastien, Parham & Pranav but not Jewish American cheater Hans? Magnus even cheated many Jewish or American players. Bobby Fischer was friends w/ Mikhail Tal, Sam Reshevsky, the Polgar's, so... Magnus is worse than Bobby? --- SayNoTo2900 GodBlessAmerica GodBlessIsrael SayYesTo2800 Bobby Fischer would agree with me. We both are mentally unwell (I have ADHD-PH), hate chess & have many friends in the Philippines. Eugene Torre, Bobby's best friend, accepted my friend request. Wesley So would be Bobby's favourite. 31-MtiHrehk 31-MtiHrehk 31-MtiHrehk --- Dr Seuss: 'Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.' NNT: 'A single person with courage can bring down a collective composed of wimps.' I'm a dual citizen of Hong Kong & the Philippines, love 9LX and hate chess. Thus you can imagine how much I have bias for the US, Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann and bias against FIDE, Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura right? -bad guys: magnus carlsen, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, hikaru nakamura, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer -good guys: wesley so, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vladimir kramnik, hans niemann, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov -bad girls: wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, atousa pourkashiyan-nakamura -good girls: tingjie lei, janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, sara khadem -Like Bobby 'allies of evil' vs George Bush 'axis of evil' (ARNSi0cPu60) --- Note: 1 - Magnus is ra()st against Americans or Jews a little like Bobby Fischer. Bobby is against the governments. Magnus is a sore loser against Jewish or American players. 2 - Even if Bobby is immoral outside chess, Bobby is a moral chess player. Wesley So & Vladimir Kramnik are too. Veselin, Garry & Magnus are immoral chess players even if they are moral outside chess. --- You know Gasai how chess became more popular in the US, India & Norway because of when resp Bobby Fischer, Vishy & Magnus became WCC's? It's like that for me when Wesley So became WFRCC. Imagine how I feel that people are praising Magnus, Garry & Hikaru over Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann when Magnus & Garry are cheaters and when Magnus & Hikaru are fake world champions and baseless accusers. The people are not wrong. I am educating them. The ones who are wrong are FIDE, Garry, Magnus & Hikaru. Kind of a bad example that would lead to ad hominem attacks but when JOSS WHEDON was asked in an interview why e writes these strong female characters, e responded - 'Because you’re still asking me that question.' Ok back to nationality or ethnicity : It's like how Sergey Karjakin is Crimean and pro-Putin. Is that a coincidence? (Look up 'ugmopp'.) Or, would you be surprised if a Japanese person were a 'weeb'? But it's not largely about nationality. Someone told me in 2023Feb 'I haven’t seen a bigger hypocrite person than you in my life. 😂 I thought you are American bcoz you were taking sides of a cheater. Now you are taking side of someone who doesn’t even want to play under his real nation’s flag.' p1w4Rr-DE p1w4Rr-DE p1w4Rr-DE 1 - Wesley So isn't even Philippine anymore. 2 - I don't even speak Philippine. 3 - I don't say Bong Villamayor, Daniel Quizon or Janelle Frayna are better or more talented than Magnus. 4 - If it were Nepo instead of Wesley So, then I'd say Nepo rules, and Magnus sucks (w/c is true since Nepo beat Magnus in classical & rapid 9LX). I guess I wouldn't be so obsessed w/ Nepo though. Lol. 5 - The facts that Wesley So 5A - is American, like Bobby Fischer 5B - is, like Bobby, friends with both Eugene Torre & Lotis Key 5C - like Bobby and me, loves 9LX & hates chess. 5D - like me, looks up, to Bobby as greatest / most talented of all time (MTOAT) further fuel my bias. (FYI : Hikaru Nakamura, a US traitor for siding with Magnus over Hans, doesn't satisfy any of 5B, 5C or 5D.) . . . P.S. Please help get American Wesley So on Jewish American Lex Fridman's podcast. See: xcdhgq xcdhgq xcdhgq xcdhgq

He just won difficult world cup what patience

Magnus saying for benefit of chess he doesn't even care he has won everything always ego doesn't work nobody watch classical if u watch good for u

FFS HE LITERALLY SAYS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO THAT THIS IS JUST HIS OPINION AND HE IS NOT TRYING TO GET FIDE TO CHANGE ANYTHING DOES YOUR BRAIN WORK?

@@RoeShamBoe He says he won't play unless FIDE does it his way. That is a demand. Does your brain work?

Lol yes. But magnus and Bobby agree on 1 thing at least. Classical WFRCC is the only way Magnus will come back to play 2 hour per player games. I agree with Magnus which for me is rare. The only thing hindering fide is this ridiculous hypocritical rule where they have to play both colours of the same SP. Hence it must be done in the same day. Hence, this will take 8 hours a day! This is hypocritical because they fear white's UNKNOWN advantage yet they go about their lives with single round robins & single swiss events despite white's KNOWN advantage. Later FIDE is going to have the 2023 grand swiss aka the grand hypocrisy. Same as 2023 tata steel chess and a little like 2023 norway chess, half of the players just get black at random for no compensation whatsoever. There's no rating bonus if you win or draw as black. There's no time bonus for being black. You don't get assigned white for being the lower rated player. No one really has time or money for double round robins so ok fine. It sucks that Wesley So got black both times vs Magnus in the 2023 Tata Steel & Norway Chess but ok fine. Go on with your single round robins & single swiss, but don't let both colours be a hindrance for classical 9LX. Why are you afraid that a 9LX player might complain that their opponent got a strong white SP, but you're not afraid a chess player might complain that their opponent got white at all? More: p1w4Rr-af

Team Hans Vs Team Magnus : Which of these do you disagree w/? 1 I don't think Hans cheated Vs Magnus at the 2022 Sinquefield Cup. (Just absence of evidence.) 2 Furthermore, I think Hans didn't cheat Vs Magnus at the 2022 Sinquefield Cup. (Not just absence of evidence but really evidence of absence.) 3 Magnus committed defamation, not necessarily intentionally but could be like negligently or reckless disregard or something. 4 Hikaru made those comments on stream largely for views - not just initially at the Sinquefield Cup but even after eg 2022 USCC w/ Christopher Yoo. 5 Hikaru is a traitor to the US re Hans. 6 In politics, Bobby Fischer was a traitor to the US assuming Bobby wasn't mentally ill and had incorrect political views and assuming US never did anything illegal, immoral or unethical to Bobby (eg if they spied on Bobby & Regina, then pretend it was justified). 7 In chess, Bobby Fischer is the exact opposite of a traitor to the US. 8 Hikaru committed defamation. 9 chessc*m had no business stating those OTB facts re Hans. 10 chessc*m committed defamation. 11 This is suspicious : Chessc*m removes Hans from the 2022 CGC happened right after Hans after beat Magnus. 12 If Hans cheated Vs Magnus at the 2022 Sinquefield Cup, then it's less likely Hans did independent cheating like beads as compared to getting help from organisers, arbiters or sponsors like Chris Bird or Rex Sinquefield. -(For example - Maybe evidence of this is that Hans beat 2 non-Americans Shak & Magnus, lost 2 Americans Wesley So & Fabi and drew w/ everyone else.) 13 Thus, Magnus either hates American players or is correct about an American conspiracy. Same with Bobby Fischer who either hated Soviet players or was right about their collusion. I mean how else did Hans cheat besides help from Chris Bird? Or alternatively... ...Maybe Magnus doesn't hate Americans or Jews, but it's fun to think of Magnus as anti-American or anti-semitic. Plus, Magnus should have a taste of what defamation is like. 14 Agadmator is right in that in 2019 American Wesley So 'not just defeated' but 'completely obliterated' Magnus at 9LX which was created American Bobby Fischer. (American refers to their federation at the time.) 15 Magnus' accusation of AMERICAN Hans in 2022 is strongly related to that AMERICAN Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus in 9LX created by an AMERICAN Bobby Fischer... ...OR ALTERNATIVELY they're not related, but it's fun to think of Magnus as anti-American or anti-semitic. Plus, Magnus should have a taste of what defamation is like. 16 This is suspicious : - FIDE lowers WFRCC time controls from classical 2019 to rapid 2022 to lower AMERICAN Wesley So's odds wanting Magnus or traitor Hikaru to win after Magnus quit 2023 WCC JUST AS - chessc*m kicked out AMERICAN Hans Niemann of 2022 CGC wanting to please Magnus after Magnus quit 2022 Sinquefield Cup. 17 This is suspicious : Magnus plays 3 gentile non-American cheaters Sébastien, Parham & Pranav but not Jewish American cheater Hans. Magnus even cheated many Jewish or American players. Bobby Fischer was friends w/ Mikhail Tal, Sam Reshevsky, the Polgar's, so... 18 good Vs bad -bad guys: magnus carlsen, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, hikaru nakamura, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer -good guys: wesley so, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vladimir kramnik, hans niemann, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov -bad girls: wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, atousa pourkashiyan-nakamura -good girls: tingjie lei, janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, sara khadem -Like Bobby 'allies of evil' vs George Bush 'axis of evil' (ARNSi0cPu60) 19 The 'bullying cheating' that -Magnus Carlsen did to Anish Giri in 2023, Alexandra Kosteniuk in 2009, Alireza Firouzja in 2019, Danya Naroditsky in 2020 & 2021, Ian Nepomniachtchi in 2021 -Hikaru Nakamura did to Levon Aronian in 2016 -Garry Kasparov did to Judit Polgar in 1994, Vishy Anand in 1995, 'the world' in 1999 & Alexei Shirov in 2000 is at least as bad as the engine cheating that Magnus & Hikaru accuse Hans ... or ok fine at least really bad not just 'eh who cares'. 20 Magnus, Hikaru & Garry are hypocrites because they cheated yet they later accused resp Hans, Hans & IBM (Deep Blue) of cheating, EVEN IF and maybe EVEN MORESO that they had done bullying cheating while their accusations were engine cheating. . . . . . P.S. Please help get American Wesley So on Jewish American Lex Fridman's podcast. See xcdhgq xcdhgq xcdhgq xcdhgq

hahaha it's actually magnus who will destroy Fischer, in the era of magnus where computer power is getting stronger, magnus dominates among the best 🤭

I find those who compare between two guys who were born in different times the dumbest

True, beacuse if Magnus was born in Foscher's era, Fischere never reach the world championship title. The only that could be competitive with Magnus are Capablanca and Kasparov, not so sure for this last.

People majority are bored

he never said it was? just stated his personal thoughts. and he even said he doesn't pressure fide or anybody to change anything, it just isnt for him anymore

@mmapl7166 if dosn't want to make pressure on FIDE he should talk to them SECRETLY( in private. In my eyes it is obvious he want to change the format in his favour

@@rajsub3884 Last WC fight between Nepo and Ding was boring for the majority? I would assume the opposite..

@@travelowlnet he was asking a question he was asked in an interview... was he supposed to refuse to answer??? how are you this dumb????

This should be an interesting thread. Just here for the comments 🍿

wtf why do you think there would be more grinds?? shorter time control and more games will only allow more risk taking and obviously more exciting games, and on top of that it's clearly more viewer friendly by design. plus magnus literally does not care about playing the wc again. he's just answering the questions people are asking him over and over again and you're mad at him for it?

Tell me you're purely a hater without telling me.

@@xianweii he’s just boring. He’s so much better than everyone else, and he’s so determined not to lose, he just plays conservatively until his opponent makes a small inaccuracy and then he grinds them down… the Karpov of our generation… yawn

He bores himself - he said he was bored like 4 days ago 🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

Chess gaming pace became faster, before games could last days but our players thinks and memorizes more and make them last shorter. The actual classic setup last 2h+inc (so it can be 6h if you count both players time) and it came be really tense for the players because every moves have to be calculated before playing. Watching perfect accuracy game for 6h is boring, he wants to make funnier and harder with time control management (more random blunders who can spicy up games).