Really? Baylor leading the way? Give me a break. Y'all are literally last place in desirability in the big 12. It goes 1. Kansas 2. Texas Tech 3. OSU 4. Kansas State. 5. West Virginia 6. Iowa State 7. TCU 8. Baylor
The Pac12 isn't taking any of those school because they aren't even close to their standards. But if they wanted 4, they'd take the 3 Texas teams and ok st
@@obeytheshark their standards? TCU and Baylor are in the 40s for top school in the country and even better athletically. Better than 3/4 of the Pac. Tech isn’t far behind and neither is OSU in sports. Could make the religious school argument which is fair, but the Pac-12 can’t do nothing because they are the lowest earning P5 and are themselves on the verge of becoming ousted or poached in the next TV contract years. So they need to add
XeNova well I meant academic standards because that is what the Pac12 is known for. But it seems like we even agree because I literally said that they could take the Texas teams and ok st
@@showmemoblues so glad I have an omniscient being like you to set me straight. I’m sure you perfectly predicted Colorado to the Pac 12 and Maryland/Rutgers to the B1G. You’re my hero.
@@showmemoblues you use a lot of words to say nothing. You also seem to miss that “Lord Rayden” is an SEC guy from a school with a worthless football team who trolls a Big 12 radio show because… I don’t know, like you he thinks he knows all there is to know about college sports? You should be a commissioner somewhere not arguing in the comments section.
@@showmemoblues You came here running your lips with nonsense and you got called out on it. Now you can't take it and cry like a little baby. Have fun taking your abundance of losses. Time to move on.
I live and grew up on the west coast. The PAC 12 schools are never gonna go for a pod system. The non California schools won’t go a system where there will be years that they don’t get to play a game in the state of California. The state is the recruiting base and alumni booster money base for all the PAC-12 schools and they set up the conference so that every team gets to play at least one game in the state every year. Adding the Big 12 schools wouldn’t be a big enough difference money wise to give up playing in California every year.
@@kyleorndorff1304 It can't be done with 16 teams and only 4 California schools. Best you could do is every other year. All of that hassle just for adding Ok State, Texas Tech, Kansas, and Iowa St. No chance the PAC adds any more teams.
I don't think Baylor is nearly as attractive a candidate as you guys think relative to the rest of the Big 12. I expect this because it's a Baylor show, but still.
@@daeers3516 ehh… i don’t know. TCU while a religious school doesn’t have the news on how religious they act with discrimination against women and lgbt like baylor has. I get being texas you might think it doesn’t matter as much as championships, but outside of texas, it’s not true.
Less than 5% chance for Baylor getting an invite from PAC 12. PAC 20 just do not make any sense. There just aren't TV money for those potential match ups. Current PAC 12 schools will make less $ if they were in PAC 20. Only chance for PAC 20 is somehow FOX feels it needs PAC 20 programming to compete against ESPN-SEC programs. There just aren't any interesting match ups if you try to insert Baylor or TCU except Baylor vs TCU (Baptists versus DOC). Big 16 or Big 20 with AAC schools makes more sense for Baylor and TCU. Big 16/20 with BYU will bring instant religious school clashes. PAC 12 or B1G or ACC won't take any Big 8 schools. Remaining 8 just do not provide any good football match ups. WV to ACC does bring old rivalries. Too bad its football sucked recently. Only chance for remaining 8 is to stick together and go offensive toward Big 16/20. It is delusional to think it can make $35 mil per year or thinking Baylor somehow will get an invite from any major conferences. Survive next 10 years and build programs and hope landscape changes where SEC decline a little which it will once Saban retires from Bama.
I am sure the folks in LA (UCLA and USC) and the rest of the Pac 12 are just jumping up and down at the possibility of adding Baylor to their conference. LOL
Best bet IMO: The remaining 8 stay together and keep the conference alive. Hold UT/OU to their contracts and GOR. Add BYU starting 2022. Sign a scheduling alliance with the Pac-12. Spend 2022-25 evaluating the landscape for further expansion including evaluating traditional and streaming media rights options. Add 1-3 more teams by 2025. Keep some space open for possible opportunities from the leftovers in the other conferences. Because... ...if your school is not a major national brand in the ACC, SEC, B1G, or Pac-12, you are on the clock. Some of you have a decade to 15 years. Some of you have like 5. But, unless something gets in the way of this movement, the major brands are going to consolidate. And some of you may be surprised to learn that your team isn't making the cut.
A lot is geography but for WVU it's even more about historical rivalries. WVU has played hundreds of games against current ACC teams like VT, Pitt, Syracuse, Miami, BC, Louisville.
I honestly think after 2025 big 12 is done once they get the full buyout the schools separate. Tech Kansas Ok state to Pac 12 with some other school. West Virginia to ACC. I feel the other four would separate K State and Iowa state to AAC Baylor and TCU to mountain west
@@obeytheshark well Kansas is an AAU and would help basketball for sure and for Tech and Oklahoma state they might be the available option if they realize they can't sit and wait. The sit and wait game will destroy a conference look at the big 12 right now.
And PAC 12 still isn’t going to pursue any of these schools. At best they would be neutral additions, but hard not to see them (and the travel commitment) as dilutive.
I don’t believe the PAC 12 commissioner meeting with the B1G and BIG 12 has anything to do with TX and OU. It was on the books before hand. He just took over the job a month ago and they had just finished PAC 12 media days. I think it was more of a way to meet and get to know the other commissioners and lol at options for future partnerships.
Baylor and Kansas' best fit is the ACC. Ultimate basketball conference. If Kansas had anything to offer the B1G, the B1G would have taken them a long time ago.
You think the ACC would take Baylor? Do you know where the ACC schools are? Imagine Syracuse having to go to Baylor, or Boston College, that’s just way too far, that will be a logistical nightmare and all their games they would have to travel crazy
Beating Clemson at most sports would be great! Beating them in football along with other weaker football schools, would be a much easier path to playoffs.
I keep hearing people talk about Baylor and BYU and the fact that they are religious institutions is a problem for the pack 12 or perhaps other conferences. Who can explain that to me? What exactly is the problem? I live in New York and this is the first time hearing this
I don't get it. The Big 12 does not lose power 5 status automatically because Texas and Oklahoma are gone. Leftover 8 stay together, add a few teams and get the autobid to the new expanded playoff. The money earned from playoff should cover what they lose in media rights value.
they will lose it if oklahoma and texas break 4 years later on contract negotiations. If you get them to leave early and invite your teams, you get some time. but that end of contract time is a deadline
“They aren’t going to change who they are to get in a conference” Well…. No kidding, it’s. It going to become a state school ……and the PAC 12 isn’t taking any of the big 12 leftovers. I think they’d wasn’t Kansas, but they are gonna end up in the big 10/14, and the only other one I though thst may interest then is OSU, but I don’t think their academic profile would fit in.
Baylor goes to American with Tech and TCU...Kansas to big 10...rest to various others, MAC, Sun Belt, or USA. Without TX and OK who cares about the rest, just reality sadly.
