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Could SMART Ever Come to Solano County? 

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Could SMART ever come to Solano County? Take a look at recent efforts to bring SMART to Suisun City!
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Комментарии : 27   
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video! Thank you.
@thatgirl899
@thatgirl899 2 года назад
these videos are so in depth and helpful! Than you!
@101N1
@101N1 2 года назад
They really need to build a spur into Vallejo. North Vallejo residents would have a really easy time using the American Canyon station, but everyone else in the city wouldn't have access. It seems like a major oversight.
@snoopyloopy
@snoopyloopy 2 года назад
There's also the potential that Capitol Corridor would be rerouted for a new bridge over the Strait that would provide better service to Vallejo from that standpoint.
@Brian_rock_railfan
@Brian_rock_railfan 2 года назад
great video
@Unmannedperson
@Unmannedperson 2 года назад
Great summary! Hope they build it ASAP - it would great to be able to route between Sonoma/Marin and the rest of the state without dealing with road traffic in either car or bus. Right now, there is no way to do that.
@tommyboy1653
@tommyboy1653 2 года назад
ADD IN I80 has no alternate route to go around traffic. Bart to Smart is the real thing if it's connected across the delta to south bay area .
@KJW-Transit
@KJW-Transit Год назад
I record trained as a zoom Fairfield every day always is an overpass I hope it really comes forward
@snoopyloopy
@snoopyloopy 2 года назад
Sounds good except for the tirade against an underpass. That's definitely spoken by someone who doesn't regularly use these types of connections at all.
@b3n583
@b3n583 2 года назад
Solano may not get BART, but getting SMART seems more feasible, connect all of the North Bay. There’s just one more loose end to tie up. North Bay to East Bay. A.K.A Solano to Contra Costa
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict 2 года назад
They can build a direct line to Vallejo
@adithyaramachandran7427
@adithyaramachandran7427 Год назад
SMART could connect to Contra Costa county at Richmond (Via the I 580 bridge) and take the CC tracks from there up to Solano. Also, Electrification and grade separation of CC from San Jose to Sacramento could also help create a new regional rail service from Sacramento to San Jose via 2 alignments, one passing through Transbay 2 to SF-San Mateo-Palo Alto and another along the existing Oakland-Hayward-Fremont alignment. These projects would have much more visible benefit than trying to spend billions on CA-HSR in the central valley.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 8 месяцев назад
Are you saying put SMART on the Richmond Bridge?
@adithyaramachandran7427
@adithyaramachandran7427 8 месяцев назад
@@davidjackson7281 Yes, it would be a good use of existing infrastructure. The bridge needs to be refurbished anyways.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 8 месяцев назад
@@adithyaramachandran7427Well a billion has apparently been spent on maintenance and a 2020 replacement cost was $8 billion. Extending SMART to Suisun City was estimated to be up to a billion dollars. That has merit and l could maybe support. The bridge should absolutely abolish the traffic causing useless and selfish bike lane. Have a designated bike day. Continued bridge repair and maintenance will enable it to last for many more decades. A high speed ferry could go a long way as a transit solution.
@adithyaramachandran7427
@adithyaramachandran7427 8 месяцев назад
@@davidjackson7281 I agree, the bike lane between Richmond and San Quentin is more recreational than practical transit. A bus lane would have been a great short term alternative while regional rail funding & routing is being discussed. On a side note, all cross bay freeways need to have mandatory bus lanes to get people off cars and onto transit. This is low hanging fruit that could make express buses a more preferred option instead of driving across the bay. Express buses and regional rail are the true replacement for freeway traffic, not bikes.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 8 месяцев назад
@@adithyaramachandran7427Yes, frequent, comfortable express buses could be a solution. l feel for commuters stuck in traffic on that bridge. Wasn't like that until the connecting freeway replaced the slow Richmond drive on Hoffman and McDonald. lronically, the transit time is back to where it was prior. ls there now an HOV lane on the bridge? GGT buses use HOV lanes. Still it's way too hard to try to read much on a motion sickness inducing, swaying bus for me. l think improving the connection from Novato to Napa and Solano would be a higher priority than a new bridge. Also, l do not see the need or worthwhile benefit of a pricy Transbay 2. The CC ridership would need to increase atleast ten-fold to justify. Perhaps a new Dumbarton Rail Bridge would an alternative soluton to Transbay 2. The county with the most population growth in the Bay Area may be Solano. Thus, good transit investment there could get the highest return on investment.
@fatviscount6562
@fatviscount6562 2 года назад
This video puts the cart way too far ahead of the horse, and way behind reality. First, SMARTs ridership has been abysmal-under 800 daily riders in 2022-01-a decade and over $500 million since voters started funding the system. Fundamentally, both Sonoma and Solano counties are so car dependent that the car is the only practical means to travel point-to-point. This explain why SMART ridership is so low, why SolTrans bus connections to BART also have low ridership (but at far far lower capital and operating costs compared to rail), and why in spite of clogged highways between them, people won’t use public transit between Solano and North Bay. SMART project costs have run nearly double their most pessimistic projections. SMART has an abysmal record of connecting their services to other transit systems. After spending tens of millions of dollars to reach Larkspur, they don’t even bother to implement useful signage between train and ferry. In most of the world, trains and ferries offer coordinated connections that completes in 5 minutes, but at Larkspur, the connection takes an hour of longer. The counties should first try to connect Sonoma and Solano by bus, and if they can fill a bus every 30 minutes, then a train might have a chance. Even then, the cost of running a bus every 20 minutes would be far far cheaper, much more convenient, and can ge just as fast and comfortable as a train.
@snoopyloopy
@snoopyloopy 2 года назад
Except that given the traffic conditions, a bus wouldn't be faster. Also, "we're car-dependent so there's no reason to try anything to reduce that until we're less car-dependent" is a sorry excuse.
@THE_BATLORD
@THE_BATLORD 2 года назад
as a reminder Marin and Sonoma counties were built out along the northwestern pacific railroad interurban line that ran from sausalito to santa rosa. SMART already uses basically the same ROW that it used all the way back in the 1930s and on top of it, the whole line was electrified! weak ridership can be attributable to a number of factors that already plauge most interurban rail lines: low frequency , bad land use around stations, and poor scheduling for transfers with local networks. on top of all this these are very affluent suburbs which have a lot of WFH telecommuters so a commuter train to the City isn't really necessary
@fatviscount6562
@fatviscount6562 2 года назад
@@snoopyloopy Every bus passenger frees up a car space and thus enables everyone to travel faster. The ridership on the bus will easily prove whether its worth spending Billions of Dollars to develop SMART to Solano. That's the responsible way to spend money on Transit. Having seen SMART spent $500 million and get extremely low ridership, and advocating spending more to build the same failed model to serve far fewer people is an irresponsible waste of money.
@Rubycon99
@Rubycon99 Год назад
"...and can get just as fast and comfortable as a train" The rest of what you wrote... fine, maybe you're just being realistic. This however, no way :P As I've used BART more and more, I've come to realize how much I hate jerky bumpy bus rides that are constantly stuck in traffic or waiting at lights at horribly designed intersections.
@fatviscount6562
@fatviscount6562 Год назад
@@Rubycon99 Not all buses are equal: SolTrans runs buses with plush seats, and you don't even have to stand--which you do on BART at rush hour. Trains are not always more comfortable than buses.
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