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Could Suriname WIN The World Cup?

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In this Football Manager 2023 video I find what would happen if all the the players eligible for Suriname declared for them instead of the Netherlands. Could it be enough to take them all the way to a World Cup win?
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@seanpoole4026 Год назад

That was pretty cool. A suggestion for a future one could be what would happen to France if you changed all of their players to their second nationality? Could imagine the French squad would be a lot worse off and some African nations would improve vastly.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

That's actually kinda interesting as well, almost the reversal of this concept! I'd never even thought about that, really like that, expect to see that on the channel at some point :)

@seanpoole4026 Год назад

@@Secondyellowcard maybe it could lead to the first African winner of the World Cup. Will definitely keep an eye out for the video when you have chance to create it. Should be very interesting to see what happens.

@iampostcode Год назад

@@Secondyellowcard The likes of Algeria and a couple of the West African nations would be ridiculously good.

@JohnnyMaverik Год назад

@@Secondyellowcard If you try it and it produces interesting results you could also try confiscating all of the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish & Irish players from England over a period of time.

@ryanherbert4878 Год назад

Yup this would be amazing.

@rayenrudrasingh5287 Год назад

I am of Surinamese descent I've spent hours upon hours doing this in this past. We actually managed to win the World Cup once with Quincy Promes as the star man 😅

@stevenrussellhaime6626 Год назад

The Suriname League has a team called Robin Hood

@tutin4090 Год назад

DR Congo have a HUGE pool of dual-nationality stars, in fm18 I used the editor to switch all the Congolese players allegiances. Assombalonga and Lukaku had a sensational partnership

@yoiamgucci2743 Год назад

Love this. Done this on FM13 changing uncapped players to declare for Suriname and it was so much fun. One of my favourite saves. Also either done it with or considered this with Jamaica, Cape Verde, Mozambique and Guinea-Bissau. Some African nations have been fun but most are pretty established. If Martinique or Guadeloupe could qualify for a WC that would be a lot of fun. Might try Curacao next as they have been progressing IRL. Love the video Matt!

@ChipThompsonArseCrayonGaming Год назад

This was super cool! I feel like every year we see people doing the same experiments and it's great to see some different ones. More of this please!

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

Thanks mate! That means a lot :)

@kestamine1441 Год назад

cool video, similar to like other people have said, those with French first nationality being changed to their second and looking at several countries (like Guinea-Bissau, DR Congo, Martinique to name a few) could be a cool way to expand on the idea. keep these up, love the alternate universes/super agent stuff you've been doing :))

@mikorrhiza Год назад

Similar to Suriname, Indonesia also has plenty of dual-nationality player (most of it are Dutch). In fact, some of it are from European top flight league (e.g. Tommy St. Jago, Pascal Struijk, Neraysho Kasanwirjo [he also has Surinamese blood, seen in this video], Jairo Riedewald, Million Manhoef, etc.). Maybe u should do that as well for the next video.

@DjamieA Год назад

Manhoef plays for my local club, Vitesse 😂

@DB-gn6qd Год назад

None of those players would ever play for Indonesia just like the majority of Dutch players wouldnt want to play for Suriname. The money, the bureaucracy and corruption is just not good enough.

@Omniman-s8z Месяц назад

But Indonesia isn't recognized dual citizenship or dual nationality, only one nationality.

@mikorrhiza Месяц назад

@@Omniman-s8z ah yeah, my bad for phrasing it that way. it should be "half-blood", i think?

@joewood791 Год назад

I sign a wonderkid from Suriname, when managing Barcelona in the 2050s, who had played 22 times and score 6 for Suriname by the age of 19. He was a CB and was being used as a CM in the national team despite not being able to play there because he was their best player. He was sold to PSG by the AI after I left the job and I checked. He had 180 PA after coming from a non-descript South American team.

@jordanbright4887 Год назад

This concept is so good it made me subscribe, definetly more of this!

@infernocfc9038 Год назад

Interesting to see a good handful of the real players signing for Mexican clubs, as in real life there’s never been a Surinamese in Liga MX before. Taking away French nationality from those dual nationals could be really fun.

@marcostegenga961 Год назад

I want to see a ACoconut save, that has to be one of the best club names ever

@e_eyster Год назад

South America clubs have some absurd names. I always have been partial to the Tanzanian club Simba SC who are actually starting to turn into a bit of an African giant (made top 8 in African Champions League 3 of last 5 seasons) and are arguably the best African team not from North Africa right now

@este6169 Месяц назад

was it names or games ?@@e_eyster

@godking4118 5 месяцев назад

awesome video mate ,keep up the good work,we are actually hoping to qualify for the 2026 world cup, with the usa canada and mexico out of the picture being the host and all,we think we have a chance alot of good players have chosen to play for Suriname with are star player being the speed demon sheraldo becker who helped Union berlin reach the champions league for the first time in history

@Ciaranion Год назад

Great video. I think more of these style of one hit videos are great to dive into. I sometimes feel if I miss the start of a series it can be hard to jump in halfway through. These longer videos on one project/experiment are a lot easier to consume vs 60 part series.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

That's awesome to hear! It's a lot of the reason i don't do the long let's play series on the channel any more. They were too hard to keep up with over a long time :)

@Ciaranion Год назад

@@Secondyellowcard I do love the series. I came in at the end of outcasts to icons just as took over Roma but loved that. Wow I feel old that was fm15. Time goes too fast. Keep at it man, amazing you can create such quality videos for so long.

@TheMCArchitectTV Год назад

I have been subbed for a while, for some reason I don't watch that many videos of yours. But you are really underrated, great content and quality

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

Thanks very much mate :)

@NegaNekojin Год назад

I always wondered what would nations like Suriname and/or Curaçao fare if they were to keep their talent, so glad to see this experiment. .P.S.: After watching Jamaica reaching two Gold Cup finals in a row (and winning one) during this experiment I wonder how much would Jamaica improve if all the AngloJamaican players were to declare for the "Reggae Boys"

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

I'm thinking Jamaica could be a very good shout for the next one of these!

@MazeMouse Год назад

It's interesting because would all these Surinamese players have developed as well as they have if they weren't Dutch? Since a lot of them were born in the Netherlands to Surinamese parents, making them at the very least Dutch born. And I don't think it's unfair to say that Dutch clubs have beter developmental infrastructure than the Surinamese clubs.

@harrybeddoe8205 Год назад

None of these players were even born in Suriname

@NegaNekojin Год назад

@@harrybeddoe8205 Your point is? Nationality is more than a birthplace and if you were to take a look in the national team compositions is not weird to find a few players that fit this situation. And if you think that cases like the one on this experiment are impossible to see in real life, then let me remind you of the Albanian national squad for the Euro 2016: The overwhelming majority of the squad was not born in Albanian ground as they came from countries like the neighbouring Kosovo, Germany, Switzerland, Greece, Italy and even Spain. If a nation like Albania could do it in real life, why can't Suriname do it in a fictional scenario for a videogame?

@redakieboom5545 Год назад

Almost all the players are half dutch and are raised and born in the netherlands

@joeydiaz7707 Год назад

Appreciate the effort that this would’ve took, class video idea

@davidrobinson8304 Год назад

Amazing video! What a guest

@wossa5910 Год назад

great video matt!

@antising8834 Год назад

Thank you for this video. Nice to see where Suriname could go in a few years.

@Nigel4 Год назад

I had a save with Curacao and found a lot of players with them as a second nationality. They could be worth trying Another way could be choosing a nation like New Zealand or the UAE and setting the best youth players in the top 5 leagues, or even 5 smaller leagues (Austria, Scotland, Poland etc) to that nationality and see if you can build a squad from that

@alanatty4957 Год назад

Great vid! You should do the same with Congo DR, Ivory Coast and/or Nigeria

@glebpopov7246 Год назад

Uhh what’s the final state of Renzo?? Cool vid, hoping to see more of such soon!

@OddlySpecificGaming Год назад

Great concept for a video

@AntiAdd Год назад

It's a shame that Becker, Pinas and Haas never lived up to their potentials. They all had the chance to be great, but failed to make that kind of impact. With three additional players of 150+ CA the core of the team would be quite good. I wonder if additionally to bad luck with injuries and bad personalities they suffered from not being Dutch anymore. If I understood the method of editing them to be only surinamese correctly, you turned their Dutch nationality into Surinamese, therefore removing the EU-Player-Status, i suspect. Maybe that has a negative impact on their ability to play games, because of the registration rules. Normally they are even stricter in Youth Leagues and for second teams. Maybe it had no impact at all, but it was something I wondered from the start of the video and seeing so many top prospects never making it, I wonder if it did hinder them.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

I suspect that the rules would still be fine, as they would almost all gain home grown status in a few seasons, likely before they ever come close to playing for the first team

@MrReese Год назад

That Batman jingle from the 60s tv series is one of my favorite sounds of all time :D.

@DominikMalinowski95 Год назад

Great video as always! Only thing that was going through my mind was: what could have happened, if they changed their manager, because it was the same guy for all the time (presumebly unsackable due to the results and position). Maybe a better manager could've taken them even higher 🤔

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

They actually did change their manager, Winter retired after a while, but he was present for quite a lot time

@MrMeoow91 Год назад

In my current save with a big data base. Mali beat England 2-0 and won the 2026 WC.

@danielpalland37 Год назад

i tried as a part Surinamese guy. Too build the nation up but struggled with players choose for the Netherlands. But i loved it so much

@scarred_flamingo4085 Год назад

As someone who does an rtg on surinamese player becker, this was a great video to have

@GreenDayGA Год назад

What happened to Renzo Adelij? He is 30 years old in 2047 but wasn't in the national team.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

Just had a look, he retired from the nation team at 30 earlier that year after getting 115 caps

@Murtini2023 Год назад

17:50 "Spurs are here as well" made me spit my tea out ffs.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

It had to be done!

@e_eyster Год назад

Probably would be tricky, but could do some proposed/past Unions coming to fruition like EAU (DR Congo, Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda, Burundi, South Sudan), Sahel States (Burkina Faso, Mali, Guinea), Gran Colombia (Colombia, Ecuador, Panama, Venezuela), Yugoslavia (Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Kosovo)

@paulisebaert492 Год назад

Wouldn't it be possible to code a file to set all players to have their second nationality as their primary one. Would be interesting to see as it would probably mean that more countries become competitive

@wristbreak Год назад

This is a good idea. Would be very interesting to see this done with Jamaica or Nigeria

@farrasaj7314 Год назад

i like this series, maybe you can experiment with using Indonesia. Many players in Dutch (Netherlands) who also have Indonesian in second nationality (same as Suriname)

@celeda1 Год назад

Great vid - but where did you get that jumper???

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

You are in luck! It's from Shein and was insanely cheap, yet feels really nice! www.shein.co.uk/Men-Antler-Print-Thermal-Lined-Sweatshirt-p-9694853-cat-1974.html

@jameswillmert3589 Год назад

Or any of the French or US or English territories around the world that has population you should do this with each of the three countries today said

@FishoftheMun Год назад

This was very cool. I’m sure it’s been mentioned before but maybe do one of the French territories. Or possibly Angola dude to the Portuguese link.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

I'm working on one with Angola as we speak, there are some insane players they'd get the benefit of!

@rizky_nawan Год назад

Try Indonesia, cause we have similiar background as Suriname, but fewer players actually called-up by Netherlands.

@aidengallagher6681 Год назад

Absolutely superb video once again. I would love to see one where instead of getting a smaller nation. Simply get rid of all the half French players to their African nationality and see how far France fall

@KeremBeduk Год назад

Changing all the players that are eligible for Turkey could be good. They have many players in Germany, the Netherlands, England and Austria that have declared for those countries

@GreenOokami Год назад

I'd love to see this done with Ireland, since a lot of them with Irish as a second nationality seem to play for England

@martijnkosters9024 Год назад

Where did Adelij end up in the end?

@MazeMouse Год назад

A tip maybe. You were looking for Surinamese as second nationality. But it wasn't clear to me if you were also looking for players with Surinamese as their primary nationality (and Dutch or whatever) as their second nationalit who could later declare for their second)?

@tightfistedgoat5217 Год назад

Cool experiment, what skin do you use? Or anyone know?

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

It's SAS23, it's linked in the description :)

@jameswillmert3589 Год назад

You should do this with the UK and the British Virgin Islands and maybe France and reunion

@ahmedfathi3217 Год назад

-How good are you at football manager? -I can win the champions league with a coconut 😂😂

@user-tw6cu1js9n Год назад

you have to do Guadaloupe mate

@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 Год назад

I'd like to see one for Jamaica

@chiefhodge5916 Год назад

Try Ireland, I know most players like rice were born in England but it would be great to see what couldve been

@Tranquilz0r Год назад

What a great concept! I would love to see you do an African country, let’s say Ghana?

@LordArtzyX Год назад

What is this app?

@br4804 Год назад

This got me thinking of fardin

@jakovgrbesa6400 Год назад

" Nigel" got me 💀💀💀

@nickfury8973 Год назад

I guess if the newgens have dutch as first nationality, they will get potential based on Netherlands’ youth rating, instead of Suriname’s youth rating It seems all your high PA guys are created based on Dutch coefficients

@gregersfredenielsen6456 Год назад

Would be really cool if you did a video where every player with a split nationality chose to represent the lowest ranking nation:)

@P3TER_Official23 Год назад

Nowadays actually many Dutch players who had little or no success in the Dutch national team, declared for Suriname So this is a bit realistic as well (but not like VVD level players, but still known ones, for me at least)

@chiiv999 10 месяцев назад

They're doing horrible... I don't know why because they have a fairly experienced squad

@corgi_plus Год назад

I Have A Suggestion For A Video "Can San Marino Win The World Cup,, Or "Can A Team From San Marino Win The Champions League,,

@pedroo.marquees Год назад

you should do the same thing with guinea-bissau or cape verde

@ThreeRunHomer Год назад

A coconut! 🥥 Awesome.

@tafadzwagoreraza1547 Год назад

You can always do one for Zimbabwe

@air12234 Год назад

wsg our country is rlly small but anyway we gotta try to win!!

@bevloy7517 Год назад

I think you should leave reference very based Matt 😮

@tai6794 Год назад

If only they actually switched to Suriname instead of picking Netherlands😢😊

@Harkote10 Год назад

U need to do this with algeria

@HaStylez Год назад

How do you find a database where you can switch on leagues like Suriname?

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

I used Timo's databases, which can be downloaded from FMScout, usually by this time of year he has made most league's playable so it the perfect time for videos like this :)

@HaStylez Год назад

@@Secondyellowcard Thank you!

@cimbom35TR Год назад

What would happen to Turkey if all the players from Germany/Netherlands etc joined the national team? Great idea of a serie btw, love it

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

Turkey is one i definitely want to make, i reckon they could become a massive force with all those German players

@GewoonJason9 Год назад

its about time my surname gets noticed

@asfaltseksem7385 Год назад

Maybe do Sweden and Switzerland is the same country? Alot more regen switching, but not too bad.

@TheMrKrist Год назад

What if every player played for their second nationality team?

@hanzouwu Год назад

11:39 The best part of the video

@Goudhaantje1993 Год назад

You mentioned Denzel Dumfries. He's Aruban. As for video ideas similar to this one: - All Algerian second nationality players in France declare for Algeria - All Congolese second nationality players in Belgium declare for Congo.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

His mother is Surinamese and he literally has Suriname 2nd nationality in the game :)

@Goudhaantje1993 Год назад

@@Secondyellowcard Huh, weird. I just checked in my save on FM23 and it really does say ''Aruban''. In real life he's also played for the Aruban national team, but only a couple of friendlies so he could still switch to Netherlands later on.

@kostasxenakoudis549 Год назад

Albania and Jamaica could be interesting for a similar project

@ukfootballscore Год назад

16:35 you missed that they also won the nations league...

@tobiaswhaley7030 Год назад

Awesome idea, I'd love to see this repeated with some of the African and European nations nations too.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

There are loads of possibilities, people seem to like it so i should get a chance to do a few more of these :)

@tutin4090 Год назад

Love to see Boy Waterman with some representation, iconic for me back on FM08 :)

@Harry-Homan Год назад

Would be interesting if you did this with Ireland. To see jack grealish and Declan rice wear the Irish jersey…. 😂

@iancu10laurentiu Год назад

Dumfries has Aruba roots

@alternatehistorysports Год назад

Experiment idea: Saudi Arabia buys the 8 top rated clubs in the World, and brings them to the Saudi league. They can still play in their home ground. The question is, how does this affect the Saudi National team?

@TheGabrielPT Год назад

You could do this experiment with portuguese players with Angolan as 2nd nationality as well

@JohnnyMaverik Год назад

Mozambique, Cape Verde and Sao Tome & Principe are common secondaries for Portuguese players as well although I don't believe as many gen as Surnamese for the Netherlands. Angola is likely the most common (no data just running off my memory of briefly doing a Portugal rags to riches climb save).

@andymanser2523 Год назад

You could maybe do a san marino one, maybe some italian players that qualify and swap over. Get the worst European nation up a few steps.

@zainyy_amp Год назад

Can you do this with morocco! So much players have moroccan 2nd nationality.

@jblessedx3510 Год назад

do jamaica next

@linusdiko5546 Год назад

A Coconut yeah my team

@MrJeremySF Год назад

lmao @Enrico Tempo

@proplayermc6796 Год назад

Enrico Tempo is the only person that has fulfilled his name in the world.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

He is something we can all aspire to!

@danielekweaga216 Год назад

Could you do one with Nigeria

@olaoluwadaramola6828 Год назад

Do Nigeria next

@samfm5244 Год назад

Do a save where every team has a youth rating of 200

@SamHolmes64 Год назад

I think DR Congo and Belgians would be a really interesting idea.

@KingFahtah Год назад

I think enda story did some of these a while back. Dr Congo has to be an obvious candidate.

@tonyguyan9559 Год назад

Can’t remember if it’s Curacao or Comoros who have great players with dual nationality.

@Secondyellowcard Год назад

I nearly did this with Curacao instead, but they had less players currently playing that would switch, so i figured this would be a better one to start with!