Could This Be The BEST Standup Grappling Style? 

Most definitely. It hurts and is effective. I've learned to appreciate the art over the years and respect the amount of work it takes to perfect the throws.

In my experience, Shuai Jiao is extremely effective. Especially once you learn how to interrelate and set up the techniques, like Master Lin demonstrated. Also, once a Shuai Jiao technique begins, it's very difficult to counter.

Absolutely! It is definitely worth checking out !

I would say even more than Judo,it looks like an hardcore version of it.

Absolutely. These take downs and throws are definitely worth learning

😂 I immediately pictured Kevin getting a gun pulled in him "Ooh nice!"

That's how it is when you love technique. You get joy out of seing it expressed whether you are executing it, or getting your butt kicked with it 😂

@@fhmstudios3884 agreed! It is a little distracting in the midst of an application, however.

@@fhmstudios3884 that's a fact

It's almost like watching anime when they be speaking during the fight 😂

I hate even saying that I practice "kung fu." It's such a huge umbrella term. I just say Northern Longfist or Xing Yi.

​@@arbogast4950often the people i know who say it just use the umbrella term because it saves a long attempt at explaining it before the guy just calls it kung fu anyway

Admittedly I've never practiced a Chinese martial art, but as far as online goes, people need to know about Shuai jiao and sanda to know Chinese martial arts aren't all worthless delusional chi manipulation

I just know it too

This is copy cat judo.

Hi, could you share some insights on what are the biggest differences between judo and shuaijiao?

They have brown belt in Jiu-Jitsu?

@@EpiphanyMindChange yes it’s the belt right before black

@@hangover4833 things I noticed is the grips because of the jacket style are different and also judo has newaza the ground work (submissions and pins)

@@hangover4833 also Chadi has a great video breakdown of the differences of Judo and Shuai Jiao

This. After all the bashing done ever since MMA was popularized it's good to see these traditions actually have a lot of value.

No doubt The problem is when Mao took over China, he suppressed the martial arts and basically focused on replacing them with yogic exercises without combat applications that are obvious But the absolutely traditional Chinese MA is deadly and so on. Very combatives based

@@thegamephilosopher2214 because communism ruins everything.

@@alexanderkappelhoff2819 no one bashed Chinese martial arts. They did it to themselves with those fake kung fu masters.

The dude literally just showed 2 basic sweeps on his willing opponent. He's not demonstarted any capabilities of his "art". Put him in a

Neurologically that is how we humans learn. First every part of a motion is a seperate step as we need to grow a neurological pathway between the cells in the brain. Then like a path on a patch of grass the more we go there the wider and more defined it gets. So neurological pathways that is repeated in use gets thicker and thicker and hence get quicker and quicker and used with less effort. After a while of repeating the seperated steps get copounded into a chain of steps that is initited by a single impuls in the first step. It goes from each step being a deliberated choice processed by the concious desicion making part of the brain, to just the first initiating step being conciously processed and the rest of the steps then runs in the background. The combination have now become fully automated. This is why many martial arts have exercises where you isolate specific set of predetermind motions and then repeat them over and over again. However long chains of combinations that makes you locked in to a predetermined set motions that needs to be finnished before you can initiate a new one are not benifical in the long run (think OCD). So the next step is to break this chain down and create places where it is possible to branching off into other chains of motions - forks in the road. This is so you can adapt the chain depending on the new information that comes in while the chain of motion is executed. Done right this creates a web of possible routes, possible combinations of motion that are no longer processed by the concious decision making part of the brain. Now you can adapt the chains of motion and apply them on the fly to new situations. This is why more advanced practioners often go back to basic after a while and break down the basic moves into step-by-step moves once again; to correct previous misstakes, increase control an create "forks". The more you do this the stronger the "forks" becomes branching of (adaptations) is done with less effort. When this has been done enough even the forking off will become automated and run like a "background process" and you can flow through the chains of motion with ease, adapt as you go without much concious thought. We all do this. This is how we learn how to crawl, walk, run and jump (and fall). In the begining each correction off the balance was a seperate step, later on it is done effortless without much afterhought. However it can also from a martial arts traning be broken down into four steps: 1) step-by-step learning 2) Automation 3) Variation 4) Adaptation Or in a Japanese context: 1) Kihon 2) Kata / waza 3) Henka / ura waza 4) Randori Some bake that into the ki-ken-tai-ichi or ken-tai-ichi-yo (mind, weapon and body as one) concepts but that can, depending on who you ask, include more or less 😊

in learning piano you can tell a beginner since they overemphasize each note instead of playing the whole phrase of a melody as a continuous flow. Same principle. It's like how the whole is greater than the parts.

​@sirseigan a more modern break down of the levels, is the crawl/walk/run progression. Most bullshido seekers only want everything to be at run. But when see something working at run, complain it is not being shown at crawl so they can learn it.

@@sirseiganthis was by far one of the most in detail and great comments i’ve seen. earned a subscriber from me please spread this around!!

they call it muscle memory. i call it tendon and nerves reflex.

Yessssss!

It was shit tai chi and shuaojiao is just shit. He won’t find a good chin na guy either . He does not appear to have a discernment for who or what is good. Take it for empty RU-vid calories not “nutrition”

Chin na is less a seperate art and more a sub part of the chinese grappling.

@@ehisey yup. Most systems have some sort of Chin na.

I think Kevin is missing out if he dosn't try it for us.

Can you tell us more about the Wudang tournaments? I'd love to know more!

Stop the cap. Boy not one person there could do bagua or taiji well, wingchun is beyond useless, bjj 😂, wrestling is good. Y’all just doing a circle jerk in that room.

Wudang is one of the most interesting. Seen them doing lightness Kung, where they runn up a 10 foot wall an kick a bottle off the top, jumping off high drops. Cool stuff

This is it! Master James Lin is the son of Master David Lin, who was one of the top students under GM Chang Dongsheng!

@@KevinLeeVlog Awesome! GM Chang was a friend of my teacher. Small world.

@@KevinLeeVlog Where can one study with Master James Lin?

@@PracticeTaiji His father was in Atlanta. I don't know if he's still there?

@@nospam3327 That seems to be the case. I found him of Facebook. Thanks.

Yeah based on the moves shown only, if someone told me he was a Judo guy, or a college wrestler or a Sambo guy I would have believed them.

Chinese martial arts influenced Japanese martial arts historically

. Judo & Jiu Jitsu "and others" ARE WUSHUKUNGFU! It comes from kungfu, it comes from Shuai Jiao and Qina etc's... #Wushukungfu.

👍Judo & Jiu Jitsu "and others" ARE WUSHUKUNGFU! It comes from kungfu, it comes from Shuai Jiao and Qinna etc's... #Wushukungfu.

China's Shuai Jiao is descended from the Manchurian's style, it is like judo without sacrifice throws, it is still a popula sport in beijing.

Its getting more popular in china as well, they have states teams but for regular people if you are not from certain regions it is not easy to find a place to learn

l bet you'll love Vietnamese traditional village wrestling ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zTAvRe1RLMo.html

it is, but it is also a martial art with weapons and stuff.

@@superfatbobtail depends on the style of shuai jiao. Some are from Manchu Boke like the beijing style while others are from Mongolian Bokh style and others from old chinese JIao Di and Kuai Jiao(fast wrestling)) or Shanghai style which is a fusion of all three.

Does it have ramming (Zhuang)?

This shit is like an insect attractant for kungfu nerds who will come in here and start naming their great knowledge of Chinese words and old Chinese men But no videos of them even throwing someone

@@RAPEDBYBLACKS aren't you often under Inside Fighting? He did make a video on Shuai Jiao,showcasing his effectiveness. If you are talking about us,i don't think you will see a video of me throwing someone any time soon.

@@junichiroyamashita Studied under a student of Chang Dong Shen , taught his Shuai Jiao techniques and his form of Tai Chi.

So the original Chinese "jujitsu" shuai jiao came from.

As suggested by some posts, old style SJ was a 'dangerous' combat martial art, not a 'competitive' style. Today, I know there are competitive -style SJ School in Columbus Ohio , and elsewhere. I'm sure you might Google to find one nearby, if it exists. In addition, you might explore Chen style Tai Chi. Note that most Tai Chi schools teach exercise or competition Tai Chi. Self Defense and Combat style Tai Chi, even Chen style are difficult to find, or even to get people to talk about.

There is already a striking curriculum in Judo. Look at Kime no Kata; Kodokan Goshin Jutsu; Judo Taiso; Kime Shiki; Joshi Judo Goshinho; Seiryoku-Zenyo-Kokumin-Taiiku.

Lol, it exists in mma, sambo.. for YEARS!!

A lot of traditional styles did this. But it lost emphasis over time, partly because boxing made striking popular. When Japan imported Okinawan karate, the grappling aspects were diminished because they wanted something vastly different from judo

Find a very traditional not so sport focused Judo school. Old judo still had the basic striking stubs (very basic strikes) and blocking system to lead from blocks and parries in to throws.

Thank you!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Predates the Shaolin temple by thousands of years. Even predates the Buddha

@Ontonaut Yes, that is very true. Taoism/Confucianism and Chinese folk religions were the chief religious and political philosophies predating Buddhism in China.

It’s real trash tho 🤷🏽‍♂️ shuaojiao in general not just your lineage. Happy to prove it if you take any issue with my statement. In Seattle fyi. Happy to show you how shuaojiao should be done

Please don't diminish yourself. Wushu is absolutely "real" kung fu. It's an amazing art and is as much kung fu as is shuai jiao or bajiquan or wing chun

don't say that wushu is some of the hardest training ive ever done it is real kung fu

Wushu is used as a modern term for ProFormance kung fu/gymnastics but people forget it is the literally chinese word for Martial arts Wu(martial) and Shu(arts) in the past.

@@LewisCho Wushu isnt a martial art style/system it is the generic chinese umbrella term for all kung fu systems. Wushu means Martial arts.

@@teovu5557 In the West, Wushu specifically refers to the specific non-combat-centered, more acrobatic discipline of kung fu

NO! Judo & Jiu Jitsu "and others" ARE WUSHUKUNGFU! It comes from kungfu, it comes from Shuai Jiao and Qina etc's... #Wushukungfu.

Thank you!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

lie on their back

👍. Judo & Jiu Jitsu "and others" ARE WUSHUKUNGFU! It comes from kungfu, it comes from Shuai Jiao and Qina etc's... #Wushukungfu.