We also saw a new form factor, the Surface Studio, with Windows 10 Creators Update (Windows 10.2 if they did point releases). Each feature update is technically a new major version of Windows without a user-facing new number.
Just take: Surface Go + ARM eg 8xc or Nuvia = "Surface Go AIR" 1. Thinner, Lighter (450g perhaps with 10.5") 2. Longer Battery Life 3. Iteration of GUI for 2-in-1 (detachable typecover) 4. Aggressive pricing People want such a secondary device that's extremely portable and light and able to use for media consumption and if needed work on the go. Given Apple have left this NICHE WIDE OPEN... then MS just look at the business case and then fit the hardware which is there now. Foldable stuff is going to be expensive and prototype so less good business case. You're right WIndows 12 will go more in line with Nuvia/ARM ie WOA.
@@WarAlex16 I got an SPX and the typecover is a good size thought it's still inferior for typing. With that said, it's usable and I think the Go typecover is usable as well. A good idea imho is a bluetooth accessory keyboard that's also portable so that would solve the need for a much more "heavy-duty" requirement for keyboard use if produced? The fact it could be detachable and the screen arranged at variable distance is also a nice feature to consider too.
Love this series, thanks guys! I’m excited by the possibilities of Windows 12 paired with a more mobile form factor. The question in my mind isn’t if Microsoft has the talent to do this, but rather, do they have the commitment to see a complete vision through?
In the intro, You still call ARM competition “Apple’s M1.” The umbrella term is Apple Silicon, which is a moving target, getting faster every year or two and available in multiple power classes at many different price points. The way you phrased it, it’s sort of like saying “When will Windows on ARM compete with Intel 12th gen?” If the answer is anytime after 13th gen comes out, it’s the wrong question. And even before 13th gen arrives, it still doesn’t ask about a specific class of chip, so the answer must go in order: U series, P series, H series, HX series, null series for desktop, and K series for desktop.
2024's Windows release will definitely not be another Windows 11 update. They may very well want to adopt the "new year, new number" scheme by then when they see Apple releasing macOS 15 and iOS 18. Windows will seem so behind in 2027 with Windows 13 when compared alongside macOS 18 and iOS 21. Maybe they can compromise and increment the number by 3 every 3 years.
Microsoft needs to update the design on their laptops ASAP. The bezels need to be trimmed down to 2022 standards..Dell did this what like 5 years ago or more with their Infinity displays on their XPS 13..I bet they would have got more than half of the XPS sales if they did that..apart from getting rid of the thicker bezels the rest of the Surface Laptop design is fine…maybe just get rid of the Alcantara BS too and just have a metal finish on all the color options…I am not sure if they can match Apple in terms of performance as Intel and AMD have a lot to catch up to…but Microsoft still has the x86 software compatibility advantage…just update the design already please…I need an update to my Surface Book 2..😏
I must say. After getting a Samsung S22+ and that phones remarkable screen brightness. I woul realy low to see a laptop with a screen sow usable outdoors as the S22+ has. That would make outdoor work a breez.
Microsoft has been doing half baked jobs for many years. I have no hope in them for hardware any more. If it's done real good, it'd cost an arm and a leg.
@Jay D it's good they suits ur needs. But we have seen a lot of problems and a low price-performance ratio. I don't agree with ur copycat analogy because that's exactly Microsoft strategy by setting up a general design template for other manufacturers to follow. Microsoft wants to build up a standard to regulate the PC / hardware market. The surface tablet is the prime example of a blueprint. Microsoft wants to be Apple but their products have an even lower price performance ratio when compared to the Mac line. (I'm not an iSheep btw.)
Windows 10 will still have 1 year of support left when Windows 12 is released in 2024. They may force-upgrade those users to at least Windows 11, just like how they've been force-upgrading users to a supported version of 10.
Windows is reportedly moving back to a 3-year update schedule, so since we had Windows 11 in 2021, we're expecting Windows 12 in 2024. However, since Windows 11 22H2 is technically also a new version of Windows, Windows 12 might not launch until 2025 (3 years after Windows 11 22H2). Then again, Windows 8.1 technically being a new major version of Windows didn't push 10 back to 2016. 8 -> 8.1 -> 8.1 Update -> 10 in 2012-2015, 11 -> 11 22H2 -> Moments -> 12 in 2021-2024.
Windows 12 will likely just be another cote of paint that comes with a needless system requirements enhancement. It will likely be more like a Windows 10.2
I wouldn't expect a system requirement change every time a new major release comes out--no one expected that with Windows 11 and has never expected that with Windows.
