TRY FIND BLOCK STATS I READ FEW YEARS AGO HE HAD 26 BLOCKS VS PISTONS AND AVERAGE ALMOST 7 BPG ENTIRE CAREER. ALSO ARNOLD NOT LIE BOUT 600 LBS , ARNY NEVER LIE BOUT BODYBUILDING CAUSE HE WON MISTER UNIVERSUM SEVERAL TIMES AND GYM IS HIS LIFE.
Simple reason Wilt would be a nightmare for Shaq and it’s what Bill Russell was saying: Wilt would force Shaq to run all game…he (and anyone else) would be so gassed they couldn’t keep up. There’s a reason he played the highest average minutes per game for a career. His most underrated physical trait was his inhuman endurance.
That wouldn’t effect him. Hakeem is on record in saying that was his goal against Shaq and he just ended up tiring himself out. Shaq had stamina… The issue was Shaq was all mental.
Exactly! The laziness of Shaq always perturbed me. Shaq would not have been that lazy in Chamberlain’s era, the coaches would have released him if he did not toe the line.
You got that right. Now if you were to limit Wilt to 30 mins a game like they did with Shaq, then they might play to a draw. But Wilt’s superior fitness would mean Shaq would have to be on the floor all 48 mins. And Shaq would wilt. Geddit wilt …
We helped build Wilt's house one year. I was delivering some doors to his house where each door weighed 125 lbs per door. I struggled with one, where Wilt grabbed 4 at a one time and carried them away. He was the strongest person that I have ever seen and a really nice person!
@@crosfrancis8239 benching is different than carrying 4 doors weighing a total of 500 lbs. When you are benching, you have the maximum possible force you could output since the weight is aligned with the direction of the force you applied. Carrying standard sized door that is 30 inches wide and 80 inches high and weighing 500 lbs in total is just different since you cant apply the maximum force unless you are carrying it over your head.
His fitness was already great. Came into the game a track star. Fast, agile, strong with incredible endurance. Imagine what he'd be able to do with modern sneakers.
Imagine Wilt playing with the same rules as Shaq - the thing Wilt said that was solid: Shaq basically committed an offensive foul almost every move to the basket- the defender, standing straight up , arms up and Shaq shoulders them out of the way is an offensive foul- the defender is called for a foul on this play- that alone is what allowed Shaq to play in the NBA
Imagine wilt with today's prohop/ extra step. He'd be unstoppable because he could jump farther than mJ with a shorter run distance and he could get above the backboard with a standing dunk. Some people claim that wilt couldn't get to the top of the backboard I saw him do it twice once almost there the other was in college he got his hand above the backboard.
robert wadlow was 8'11" tall, I never heard anything about his athleticism, and he would have been able to stand outside the key and score at will. average 80 ppg maybe? at some point you realize...basketball is the most flawed of all popular team sports, and about on the level of professional wrestling with the fixed games/corrupt refs/corrupt league
the only down side about Wilt ... is that he played in a era where there were a lot fewer teams and fewer superstar players and the season was shorter ... it would have been very interesting to see him play (in his prime) in the 70's or 80's or 90's
@@johnarcher9480 Listen to Arnold Schwarzenegger talk about Chamberlain's strength: "Wilt Chamberlain would be in the gym - we eventually ended up doing a movie together, Conan the Destroyer," Schwarzenegger said. "I was a big fan of him because he came to the gym, he would do a tricep extension - the big guys, the strongest guys would do 120 pounds, let’s say - he would come and do 150, 170 pounds. That’s how strong he was. I remember that he lifted me up with one arm like nothing."
@@TheHubeef Tall tale is right. Shaq was the most physically dominant player in the history of the NBA. He would not have to run after Wilt. All he has to do is stay within 7 feet of the rim.
Wilt’s weakness (if he had one, aside from FT shooting) was that he got bored easily. He always wanted a new challenge. Being the biggest, baddest strongest guy in the NBA would have been easy for him. He became a finesse player (most of the time) because it was more interesting for him.
Wilt Chamberlain was 1 of 9 children and was born to parents of average height . He stood over 7'1 without shoes and weighed 327 pounds of pure muscle at his heaviest weight ever recorded. He weighed 320 by training camp in 1963 when he was 27 . Wilt was a 7 foot track and field star. He was a 3 time high jump conference champion in college , a crack quarter mile runner and held the state shot put record in Pennsylvania by the time he was only 17 years old in 1953. There is a picture of Wilt pinning a ball at the very top of the backboard in college on a block . A 23 year old rookie Wilt had a reported 45 inch max vertical in 1959 with a max reach of 13'3 and with a standing reach of 9'6 barefoot . There is even a clip of Wilt in college snatching a shot midair cleanly with one hand off a standing vertical near the top of the backboard. Wilt is far and away the strongest player in NBA history. There are so many anecdotes and stories by people who knew him of his god given and supernatural strength. Wilt could effortlessly pick up grown ass men by the fucking armpits like toddlers just like he did to Red Buttons in 1976 when he was 40 on the roast of Muhammad Ali . There is a clip of Wilt in college fighting for the ball in the post in the mid 1950's and he hooks arms with one of the opposing players, lifts him off the ground and literally swings him through the air to his left with ONE arm ! I'm talking about a 240ish pound Wilt in college in his early 20's who wasn't remotely close to as strong or as heavy as he came to be. Wilt averaged 45.8 minutes a game for his ENTIRE 14 year career in the NBA while playing at the fastest pace ever , running up and down the court an additional 30+ times than he would today in Chuck Taylors and in a far more physical league. In the 1961-62 season even averaging more minutes per game than there are in a complete game at 48.5 for all 80 games of the season with ease . He did this while the Philadelphia Warriors solely depended on him to be the top scorer, top rebounder and top shot blocker in the entire league all at once. There is not another athlete in existence of the past or present that could EVER do something like that. Wilt was a pro volleyball player for many years after he retired from basketball at the age of 37 in 1973 and is a volleyball hall of famer . Wilt still was getting serious offers to play more NBA basketball until he was 53 years old in 1989 . Wilt didn't have access to 21st century world class state of the art training facilities , shoe technology , workout and weight lifting regimes , personal trainers , dieting , pampering , couldn't spend millions every year to care for his body and didn't use steroids and PED's . Just imagine if Wilt grew up in the 21st century and not in the 1940's and 1950's . What kind of further absolutely fucking FREAK of an athlete would we be talking about then in Wilt Chamberlain ?? Truly 1 in a trillion genetics. That man was a literal biblical like Goliath walking the face of the planet
Wilt is the biggest self saboteur in the history of sports. He could be holding every record there is to have and no one would catch him. But his mind was not that of a winner. He didn't have a winners mentality, he had a superhero mentality and that doesn't work in sports.
@@pocohax6552 I disagree, he was on teams he had to carry too many times. That was not is fault like it is today when teams form a new click every couple of years. When he had a 'Kobe' he won the title. Two titles with two incredible teams. Basketball is a team game and he actually played a great team game most years. He led the league in scoring, rebounding and assists at one time or another, many times the scoring and rebounding parts. Even Jordan would be languishing if he didn't have a Scotty, a Rodman, or even a John Paxson. And, BTW, Wilt still holds the most records by any single individual in NBA history with 72 records. And he retired over 40 years ago! He had 968 double doubles, 227 in a row, both records. You are saying perhaps the greatest athlete in team sports history is a disappointment? Well, I'd love to do so poorly at anything!
@@pocohax6552 When he actually had a good team in Philly, they set the all-time record for wins and destroyed my Celtics in the finals. When he had a good team in LA, they broke that record.
Wilt is so often remembered as the biggest and strongest center on the planet (which he was) that is easy to overlook how skilled he was with his shot and moves regardless of his strength and size. He could have relied exclusively on those and he would have been probably as much of a dominant force as he was but he took it to a whole other level of skill and athleticism. That was the lethal combination that made him unstoppable. It's almost literally like playing in a league of 10 year olds as an adult. Those 100 points start making much more sense after you watch a few highlights...
At 3:31 of this video when they first met and they shook hands with Wilt being well past his prime and Shaq as a rookie, Wilt almost yanked his arm out of socket. That was the strength of Wilt
More like a sad old man grabbing a younger guy really hard to tell himself he still has it. While Shaq was going for a nice leisurely friendly handshake.
Michael Jordan would average 50 today. Wilt would average 70. Today's game is a parody. There's not one player who could have gotten into an arena in Wilt's day, unless he was pushing a mop.
Even early on, Shaq couldn't bump and bully Wilt, it just wouldn't work - he only did this to smaller guys. Wilt was kind but could be dangerous if he wanted
Wilt was the only player to block Kareem Jabbar's sky hook first. Twice in the same play against Kareem Jabbar shooting for the basket on the next attempt.
I doubt Wilt was the only player to ever block it. That’s sort of a legendary type of statement. Most likely it was blocked by a few different guys at one time or another
Wilt gets overlooked in the goat discussion all the time. It's because his records and stats are so stupidly ridiculous, that some people question if they're even real.
We must remember that Wilt Chamberlain actually was real. That he's not some myth, because he sure seems like it. The man was unreal, superior in so many ways.
@@justmyluck9619 a lot of footage has surfaced that really puts it in perspective. Wilt Chamberlain Archive channel has some gems. The man was a freak of nature.
@@arthurmorris1813 I watched him play hundreds of games. Sometimes I had to rub my eyes because I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I watched an older Wilt tussle with a prime Kareem. At this stage, Kareem was a touch better. But there was game six playoff game on the road against the world champion Bucks and Kareem. I saw an older Wilt get totally fired up, dominating the game in the second half on BOTH ends of the court. The Lakers won that game and went on to win the championship. As a kid, I met him once, after the Lakers won game 2 of the Finals against the Celtics in 1969. Tallest, most massive man I have ever seen. To this day. He was really a sweet man, joking around with us boys. We never forgot how nice he was to us.
@@watchmanonthewall14 that's amazing dude. Wish we could've seen that. Question... do u think the NBA is more talented today than ever before? Like collectively? That's a hot argument I'm curious of ur take
Yeah. Seems like he held back a bit while in the league. I kind of wonder if Wilt would have been better if he had a guy like Kobe as his teammate. I feel like Kobe would have brought the nasty out of Wilt by constantly challenging him. I feel like no one challenged Wilt and that's why he never really reached the level he could have.
@@Jkev24 Wilt would have kicked Kobe’s ass and told him to STFU if he tried some of the $hit we’ve all heard about but Kobe wouldn’t have tried that with Wilt. First of all Kobe Bean was a Philly area guy and his father Jelly Bean, from Philly an NBA player as well educated Kobe about Wilt, THE Philly legend of all time, as probably did everyone else and Kobe is on record with big respect for Wilt as his GOAT. Some people get it twisted bc they really don’t know about Wilt. Nobody F’d with him. You think Kobe would? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oqo67-kp7-I.html
@@edbea2 Chris Childs is 6'2 ... Guy punched Kobrick 3 times in mouth and story since then is over for me. I saw enuf. Media try to sell jordan kobe lebronze ...presenting them like some gods...but in reality just google how MJ look down in floor ground when 1997 on 50 goat ceremony Wilt stare him in the eye and approach to him. Wilt is alnost 7'2 guy next to Shaq was like Terminator Machine body...when I saw clip how he shook hand of Shaq whole O'neal body trembles and eyes of Shaq told me he filled his pants and sox with fear.
Wilt would dominate even modern players. His strength and athletics and endurance were unmatched. He was large enough and strong enough to dominate anyone today. He was also by far the most athletic big guy ever. He has more NBA records than anyone. Records that are unbreakable.
Wilt would've learned to take Shaq away from the basket and work him out there. Wilt had an MJ-type fadeaway that was good. Wilt would've also had to deal with Shaq's weight, which would have worn him down as the game progressed. All of that what Wilt could bench and being so strong wanes when you have to lug 300+ pounds up and down the floor for 48 minutes.
@@aryavart296 bolt is faster at sprinting, that's it. Wilt literally beats him in everything else, including endurance running. We will see someone faster than Bolt in our lifetime. We won't be seeing another Wilt, maybe your great grandkids will.
Shaq is one of the few players who still mentions Wilt, and acknowledges his greatness, They BOTH dominated during their particular eras..By the way, BOTH are ( were ) super good dudes in person !!! I was EXTREMELY CLOSE friends with Wilt ( my Condo was in Brentwood, and I played Tennis with him on the Barrington Park Courts at least 30 times..) I was supposed to take him Furniture Shopping the day after he passed away... in my truck ..
what was he like as a person?.... in interview, he seems very perceptive & much more intelligent then your avg athlete. he also seems good natured. really miss he and russell.
Shaq was very athletic for a big man, but relied primarily on his bulk to plow over his opponents. Wilt was much more athletic, was stronger, had better ball handling skills, was much smoother and graceful and above all, had the physical endurance that could run circles around Shaq.
100%! Most people's recollection of Wilt was from his last playing days in the 1970's. I saw him play from 1967 on. The late 1960's version of Wilt was a sight to behold. He weighed almost 300 pounds (without any fat), but could still jump out of the gym and run all day long. It is laughable to think Shaq could have manhandled him.
@@isaacwittinger8617 how do you know that? I don’t know if Wilt could really bench press 700 lbs or whatever, but he was clearly very very strong. We have numerous testimonials from plenty of other people to support that.
Wilt held back, Shaq didn't. Shaq was very skilled, but relied mostly on physicality and that wouldn't go as far with Wilt. If Wilt can block a sky hook, he can block Shaqs jump hook. You just can't "out brute" Wilt, so you're gonna need skill.
If you truly think shaq wouldn’t “out brute” wilt, the conversation can end right there. You’re thinking with your heart and bias instead of logically.
@@herogibson Did you miss the 200 pound difference in benching... You ever go heads up against someone with 30% more strength and same height? because you don't sound like you have.
@@ISkipNeckDay I saw wilt chamberlain, in 1964, at the Old Sports arena, in exposición Park, next to Los Angeles Colosium. At that time in 1964, I was 13 years old, when I saw Him, play against Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and the Los Angeles Lakers. Then I saw Him each year at the spors Arena, until the 1968 - 69 Season when he became A Los Angeles Laker.
Can you imagine a prime 1960's Wilt playing with the 80's Showtime Lakers? Kareem was great. But he couldn't run for 48 every night. Wilt could. Man, that would have been fun to watch!
I wish Wilt hadn’t passed away in 99’. I feel like he was a figure that Shaq could look up to and keep pushing himself physically in shape. You can tell that Wilt is a bit jealous on the offense that someone like shaq could use in the 90s. Wilt couldn’t lower his shoulder, back people down, it was all considered a charge back in the day. Both of these guys changed the game for all centers following them.
Wilt didn't respect Shaq wilt shot his fadeaway 60 percent or more of the time to prove he was skillful and not just another tall guy. Shaq was a bully and shoulder charged people. Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't teach him because of it. Refs didn't let him do it. Wilt believed if your big enough to hurt them you beat them with skill not brawn. Shaq failed his test. Hakeem on the other hand had he asked I think wilt would've helped him.
@@choice12ozborne Wouldn't you be jealous you got a guy in MJ that doesn't own the record books can't jump higher and isn't stronger. Then the media always short changes your 3 point range. Then underrates the skills you learned from the globetrotters plus your natural ability. Then they all call him better than you and all he done was be born in a later era with more people and more money. In ways I think many older players are jealous of that, but they also realize the more money the young guys make the higher there pensions get so they take a back seat and let them talk there trash. Wilt didn't and rightly so. He felt he was the greatest NBA player and so do many others like me. That said I watched all Mjs games. I'm from Illinois there both great but Mjs not the athlete wilt was and he isn't the better overall player. People underrated wilts offense because he sucked at free throws. Today he wouldn't it would be something he practiced growing up. Wilt felt I can just dunk and slam free throws growing up so why perfect it would you I wouldn't.
@@dustincobb5718 I think Wilt had somewhat a sense of respect for Shaq cause he recognized the brute force of Shaq’s playstyle, Wilt had always came off as arrogant so maybe he doesn’t show or express his respect of others as much as others do
@@housesports000 no wilt was clear he didn't respect Shaqs bully game he respected skillful play. Wilt didn't have the luxury of no two hand checks and less stricter refs like Shaq. Wilt didn't have a three point line to showcase his half court hookshot. Wilt knew if he'd been a bully like Shaq he'd break bill Russell Kareem and others he chose to choose skill over being a brute. He did an interview about it. He also in a video showed why he wasnt allowed with others to play like Shaq.
@@choice12ozborne Fewer teams doesn't mean what you seem to believe it does. Back then the talent was more concentrated and the rivalries more intense as a result. The NBA since, with all the teams they have now, is a more watered down league, with watered down talent, which includes many players that shouldn't even be in the league, even though unlike back in the day, players now are allowed to make a mockery out of the rule book in that they can carry the ball blatantly, double dribble, and pick up the ball and travel their asses off while take up to 5 and 6 steps which you can see for yourself watching Harden and Curry taking step back jumpers where they never stop stepping back.
Wilt is criminally underrated. He would kill in any era. More so in those after his own. He was basically a solo act, imagine if he played in an age with isolation and spacing. His PG would avg 15 assists in his sleep.
I would put him with 4 shooters in today's game. And let teams choose between double teaming and let him rack up assists with kickouts, or let him score 1v1.
@@demonkingbadger6689 several seasons, Wilt had 6-11 Nate Thurmond F and 6-10 Wayne Hightower F, along with 6-0? Hal Greer PG and still put up monster numbers. he was indeed a freak of the game, never to be equalled.
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon yeah, i just thinking of what i would do with him in today's game. At the very least i do see him 25-30 ppg, 6-8 apg, and leading in rpg, and blocks per games by significant margin. Probably more that point wise, by i am trying to conservative. I would assume it to be MVP caliber, in any case. Not to mention probably a yearly DPOY candidate.
Back then I believe it. There really were a lot of weaker non athletic players playing. He literally could have broke their bones. Today players are much stronger and more athletic, and that's not to take anything away from WIlt, he was one of the GOAT in my opinion. What I said is just true though.
I'm old enough to have seen Wilt play in his later years. In his mid-30s in his final NBA years with the Lakers. Never have I seen such a graceful yet extremely powerful player with cat-like quickness and agility at his height and size, and never will I see another one again. This in his twilight years at that. With all due respect to Shaq, it's comparing apples to oranges. In my opinion, Wilt was the best natural athlete to ever play the game at center, and arguably the best athlete to ever play the game period.
I was born 1960 and enjoyed watching Shaq, Wilt and Kareem all in their prime. I agree. Wilt was the most athletic, Shaq was the most physically dominating (intimidating) but I reckon Kareem was the best center.
@@fishpants3877 how many rules did the NBA change to hinder the games of Kareem Jabbar & Shaq oneal! You might want to keep that in mind when you say who the greatest Center is!
@@fishpants3877 you are entitled to your opinion! (Even if the numbers & facts ain’t with you! Example: Kareem has the 29th best rebounding average in NBA history!)
Wilt was at least 60 pounds heavier than any center in that era and he used that to his advantage. In my opinion Shaq is more dominant than wilt by miles. Not even close.
@@itsmesteve1081 Dislocated his collar bone. Gus Johnson cupped the ball to dunk it in Wilt's face. Wilt grabbed the ball in one hand while Johnson still had it in his hand, and drove the ball into Johnson's (6 foot 6, solid muscle) Chest and both to the floor in one motion. Gus had dunked one earlier and showed off to Wilt. One of the few times Wilt actually took it out on another player. Gus was flattened and carried off the floor with a dislocated shoulder, only time a player attempting a Dunk had his shoulder dislocated. From Billy Cunningham, former 76's HOF player and later coach.
In general, any matchup between Shaq and Chamberlain in their primes would be pure joy to watch. It would be a close matchup, but I'd give the nod to chamberlain as well. I think it would go back and fourth often, but I think Chamberlain would eventually outlast Shaq.
Wilt played during a time when he was vilified for being so big. Shaq's time he was cheered for his size. Can you imagine Wilt playing while not being criticized but cheered. Wilt would dominate Shaq in any era.
@@sethdoddridge7806 Did he not just say that he was a better Laker than Wilt? There's more of an argument for that, 3 FMVPs vs 1 for Wilt for example is a strong metric. Also u can't really say who was more dominant bc there's a big eye test component to that and we have the tiniest sliver of recorded Wilt games to work from, so that's pretty much just Shaq's opinion not a concrete statement of fact.
@@lx4half751 I'm pretty sure he said he was the most dominant player of all time, referring to himself. I also would agree he was a better Laker considering he spent more time than Wilt did with the Lakers. But as to who dominated the league more, there is no question that Wilt Chamberlain dominated like no other. His records still seem untouchable, even 50 years later. Shaq was neither more dominant offensively nor defensively, as great a player as he was.
For those who don't believe Wilt would dominate Shaq - especially, defensively - I have two words: BEN WALLACE. Wallace, at 6'9", blocked Shaq's shots and bothered the heck out of him on defense. Wallace was a very good defensive player but he couldn't even come close to Wilt's defensive prowess. If Ben at 6'9" could block Shaq, imagine what Wilt could've done. I wonder if Shaq could EVER manage to shoot over him. Even Kareem had to resort to his sky hook - and Wilt would occasionally block those!
Nobody loves Goliath!!! The media would have torn Wilt apart if he played bully ball like Shaq. I loved Shaq, but Wilt is in the Goat conversation with Michael and Kareem.
I've watched NBA during 90s, my teen years, and Shaq was my favourite player then (and probably is now, as an all-time fav) and having said that I think Wilt would break him.
@@aztronomy7457 I saw Wilt play in the 1960's and remain a NBA fan to this day. I'm not saying Wilt was stronger than Shaq, but he was incredibly strong and clearly the strongest player on the court every time I saw him, moving other centers around at will.. I see no way Shaq could have bullied him, especially at Wilt's fully matured weight of 290-300 pounds in the late 60's.. As to skill level, Wilt had far greater offensive skill than Shaq. He had a very good fadeaway jumpshot and several clever moves around the basket. Wilt was also an incredible leaper for a 7 footer..much greater than Shaq. He has to rank as one of the top shot blockers ever. Finally, he never came out of the game...his endurance was super-human. Shaq averaged almost a full quarter fewer minutes per game.
@@doioioi-jw3cs Okay lets get REAL. A HUGE part of basketball is a FUNDAMENTAL SKILL called free throw shooting. Wilt SUCKED at it ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MATTERED MOST. Lets look at Wilts history of choking in big games. 1960 playoffs against the Celtics, Game 1, 8/14 from the FT line. Game 4, 6/11. Game 6, 10/16. 1961 Wilt got swept in the first round by Syracuse. Game 2 , 6/10, Game 3, 7/14. 1964 Finals vs the Celtics Game 3, Wilt goes 3/8 (38%) from FT line. 1965 EDF vs Celtics, during Game 7, 6-13 (46%) at the line. In 1966, the number 1 seed Sixers host the Celtics, and are trailing 2-1 in the series. Wilt only has 15 points, 1-4 from the FT line. In Game 5, Wilt missed 17 free throws (8/25) in an 8 points loss. CHOKE!!! Game 7 of 1968 Finals Wilt shot 6-15 (40%) at the FT line and lost. 1969 Game 7 finals, Jerry West drops 43-13-12, and the Lakers still lost. What happened? Wilt dropped only 18 points and went 4-13 (30%) at the FT line, and the Celtics only won by two points. CHOKE!!!! 1970 against the Knicks (no Bill Russel and Celtics to blame) Willis Reed injured, and Game 7, with the NBA Finals at stake Wilt goes 1-11 (9%) FT shooting and they lose. CHOKE again. 1973 finals. Game 2 - Wilt has 5 points 1-9 (11%) FT shooting, Game 3 - Wilt has 5 points and 1-4 (25%) FT shooting. Game 5 - Wilt shoots 5/14 (36%) Wilt was the greatest CHOKER in playoff history. That is what he is the greatest at.
@@doioioi-jw3cs Wilt Chamberlain vs Shaquille O'Neal - Best Regular Season Averages: Free Throw: 61% | 62% - Best Play-Off Averages Free Throw: 64% | 66% They both suck at free throws, but Wilt is worse.
I’m so glad you focused a bit on Wilt’s minutes played. I see so many basketball channels saying things like “If Giannis (or any dominant inside player) played for a full game, their adjusted stats would be the same as Wilt.” Key word: IF. No one has shown that level of cardio and endurance in NBA history, especially as a 7footer. Sure, you can play a guy that long, but would they be as efficient as wilt, especially when fatigue starts setting in? People just take Wilts cardio for granted, when really it’s one of the most impressive things about his career.
Hakeem Olajuwon from 1986 season to 1996 regular season avg from 37 to 41 minutes per game. David Robinson from 1989 to 1995 r. s, avg from 37 to 41 minutes, Patrick Ewing from 1988 to 1996 from 37 to 39 minutes and Dikembe Mutombo from 1991 to 2001 from 34 to 39 minutes. Nice efford from those gentleman. But I agree with you about Wilt 100%
@@vdLeo-je6os thank you for these minute breakdowns. My issue was, according to commentators, that if the only thing separating all star big men from Wilt’s numbers was minutes, then all the players you listed should have similar stat lines to Wilt. No doubt their stamina was impressive to play that long at a high level in the NBA, but what Wilt was doing was other-worldly. Much love to Greece!
I really wish Wilt had lived to see Shaq’s success. I think their relationship would have really gotten better the older they both got. Rest In Peace, Big Dipper. You left us far too soon.
I doubt it. Shaq is, to this day, an arrogant, egotistical punk who gets by on his size. The fact that he actually said he would have "whipped Wilt's ass" shows the depth of his narcissism and delusion.
I have Slam dunk magazine from october 1999 kept in my closet, I bought it when I was 15 years old, I already knew Wilt and he was my hero, when I read the obituary I was devastated. Wish I could have ever met him before died and take a photo and his autograph.
He would have gotten more bitter and seemed such a better old man in the 90s. Just after he died Shaq won 3 straight championships and an MVP Wilt would have hated that.
@@huwdavies-tallon3305 I don’t think that would have happened at all. In the last couple of years of his life, he was giving Michael Jordan the credit he deserved, so I think he would have done the same for Shaq.
I grew up watching Wilt's championship Sixers and Lakers teams. Today Wilt never averages 50, but maybe 40 pts a game in a fast break offense. He gets 20 rebounds a game. He never fouls out. He would run Shaq into the ground. Shaq couldn't dominate him without getting into foul trouble. Shaq would need to stay under 300 lbs to keep up with Wilt. Wilt would get more assists and blocked shots. Wilt's teams would win more games vs. Shaq's teams. Wilt was the superior player and athlete. Wilt could have been a competitive Olympic decathlete with four solid years of training and competition, but he would have needed to stay under 260 lbs to run the 1500 meters.
If you ever saw Wilt play live, particularly before the knee injury, (and I was fortunate enough to see him), the guy was incredible. Fast, strong and amazingly agile. Shaq would likely be competitive early, but Wilt would run him ragged by the middle of the second quarter and score at will against. Taking nothing away from Shaq, but Wilt was just that good.
Playing every minute of every game sounds mythical... Oh, and he did it while wearing Chuck's. Wilt is the greatest athlete of all time. Bo Jackson is in the conversation but Wilt was basically a god walking among mortals.
Secretariat was the greast athlete,then Wilt ,Bo Jackson & Carl Lewis ..Carl was competing & winning gold in all his events.Honorable mention Hearchel Walker & Edwin Moses & Muhammad Ali.
@@richardmorris7063 I didn't know we were including non-humans. I'd go with Togo the husky dog if those are the rules. Or maybe some random cheetah in Africa.
Wilt always going to be the GOAT in any era and that’s putting it lightly. I myself broke my hs record for 100 years leg press 1080 Lb leg press at 165 Lb and the whole football 🏈 team including the pe teacher was in complete awe and I thought that was something to leg press 10 45s on each side and 3 45s on the top center taking all the gyms weights in 45s but viewing wilts greatness and even greater to be nice about it as I was the same way was the hardest challenge and because of that many shoulders and body’s didn’t get broken be he held back like I did and I didn’t come from this generation 80-90s a era which will never be repeated again and eras before me I 100% respect not just in sports but in life in general! You want to look at greatness, look at the person on the court and off the court!
Imagine the things Wilt wpuld be doing if we dropped him in todays nba tho.. My god he would see what KD is doing and what Lebron is doing and all these other stars and he’d just go to work and add it all to his bag.. would be unreal
Wilt was Babe Ruth. One of a kind talent. Maybe Russell was a better team player and leader, but Wilt had talent like no other. Doubt we'll ever see the likes of him again. Larger than life in a game of giants.
@@chucknchar He would have been the GOAT, but he choked too many big games, mostly because of his appalling shooting from the line. 70% and he might have had a half dozen rings. The FTs cost lots of points, it allowed the opposition to climb all over him, and I think most importantly it demoralized him and his team. It's kind of like if Tiger Woods had blown a lot of majors by missing a lot of short putts. FTs are a part of the game like any other. His failure to solve his FT problem counts against him big time because it cost a lot of big games and championships. I didn't believe it at first, but if you closely examine the record it's there. Golf's my game, and he reminds me of Greg Norman and Tom Weiskoff--biggest talents out there, but with a block that kept them from closing the deal. All three famously nice and good sports about losing. Guys like Russell, Woods, and Nicklaus had a kind of ruthless self-confidence. Wilt didn't have that. A complex guy. Arrogant and insecure and a pleasure seeker. Cared too much about his image, how he looked. A lot of supremely talented people suffer a lack of grit. Think he could have solved that FT problem had he had more. He just gave up and it infected his overall game. Gave him a loser mentality. Still my favorite player. Had he had a tough, fatherly coach, I think he could have won everything.
I agree with this. Wilt is like Ruth because they set a standard and revolutionized their sports.They were glorified because there were non like them before they came along. But now...we've seen a lot of 7 footers doing crazy things....Maybe not the overall freak athlete like Chamberlain but close. We've seen a bunch of dudes being able to hit the ball a mile. They were the prototypes and made people rethink what a player should be. Great respect to both of them.
@@hoanpham4545 And probably like Ruth personality. I don't think Ruth was a particularly great team leader--he was just a supreme ballplayer and talent. He loved the spotlight and being the best--also a big time womanizer. But it was baseball, and his game didn't really have to integrate much with his teammates. He also had the good fortune of being with the Yankees and being in NY--the biggest media market. But he was arrogant and a party boy, got into lots of conflicts. But it being baseball he could get away with it as long as he brought that huge bat.
Wilt competed in all sports and he was great! He was fast, extremely athletic, and in his prime he WAS THE MAN! They Made rules to make it harder for him to compete! This man did it all in basketball PERIOD!
Thank you for the respect you give Wilt...he would be smirking right now seeing a young cat giving him the props he deserve. Wilt avg 48.5 minutes a game..his cardio & endurance was crazy. As great as shaq was and shaq was the man no doubt in his era after mike but prime shaq cardio was trash
Shaq was the product of NBA SuperStar Marketing. Take a guy 7’2”/325-400’ and give him have a dozen Offensive No Calls. His rebounding GOOD, not GREAT. Blocks, steals, assists.. EMBARRASSING. No shot whatsoever. It’s all about RATINGS. An alumni of City and Over 35 leagues I would mortgage my house and sell my kids to play Shaq a game of H.O.R.S.E. It’s all about ratings. They widened the Key/Lane cuz the players outgrew it. They won’t move the 3 point line, as they should have done years ago, because in today’s ridiculous RollerBasketDerby you don’t change channels cuz your team’s down by 20.
@@MellowMrMike the nba actually brought the 3 point line closer rather than farther to make it easier for shooters and bring more "excitement" to the game. They should bring back hand checking to offset that
Wilt is like Jordan. And even Like Lebaby. Players that are so great and so strong they would dominate in any era they would play in. Wilt was a freak of nature athlete.
Wilt is the most dominant and IMO greatest individual player in Basketball history. He doesn’t have as many rings as Russell or as many Scoring titles or Finals MVPs as Jordan, or the Psychological warfare skills or Basketball IQ of Bird, but no single player has dominated their competition on both sides of the ball so completely and set as many records (most which still stand today) in the process. When you take into account that the rules he played under forced him to play as a mostly finesse based player (despite having the physicality to steamroll anyone he ever played again had he wanted/been permitted to like Shaq was allowed to do), that he NEVER fouled out a single game in his career, and that he averaged nearly triple the blocks per game as the current official leader (due to Blocks not being an official stat while he played), you start to realize just how special he was and that he would have dominated any Center in the history of the sport. Thanks for the great video! ✌️❤️
In addition to his 2 record-breaking NBA championships with record-breaking teams (with help from Wilt), he also brought his teams, in his career, to the NBA finals several other times. This should be taken into consideration per Wilt's contributions to his teams.
I'm leaning towards Wilt. Just look at his incredible athletic prowess. A once in a century Athlete. Hearing Arnold talk about Wilt's strength is mind blowing.
Right. And superhuman endurance to boot. That's maybe his wildest attribute - to be that big, fast, coordinated and strong ... and have the stamina to dominate the entire game from tipoff to the end of the 4th. Doesn't make sense.
Wilt was special, no doubt. Never see a big man like him again in the NBA. However, taking on Ali in the ring lol? Wilt was wise to back out of the fight.
Shaq's game was limited, and that is why he always suffered against bigger players: Yao, even Rick Smits. Without the referee's favoritism, it would be no contest.
Chamberlain was a monster in his era but he only had 2 rings (1967, 1972) while Shaq was also a monster in his era but he was not alone, many NBA players in his era were also monsters. but even though Shaq has contemporaries who are also monster players like him, he still has four rings
Wilt was the first NBA player I ever met. I was just a bit taller than his knee at age 10. He is the reason I am a lifelong Laker fan. Nice man, and dominant on the court.
I met him after a Finals game against the Celtics. It cannot be stressed enough that he was a "nice man". He kidded around with us boys for a minute, with the biggest smile I ever saw. We never forgot that.
I've seen three NBA centers on the street in my life. Bill Walton riding around on his bicycle in the dark in Palo Alto. Tom Boerwinkle jogging with Jerry Sloan outside the De Paul University gym in Chicago in the early 1970s and Wilt Chamberlain alone outside a restaurant in L.A. at night getting something out of his car. Wilt had an ego the size of aircraft carrier but he was a man of the people too. He never forgot where he came from. That's the other thing about him. Who he was on the street and as a man about town in L.A. after he retired from the NBA. He had a little career in the movies and television too. His major Hollywood credit was in a supporting role in _Conan the Destroyer_ (1984). I was in an indoor pickup game with some NBA players in it once. One of them was a center with title ring, but he was not a Hall of Fame player. But that's another story. My time on the floor did not last long, but I did get an offensive rebound and a put back. No, I'm not tall. Average.
Wilt was the greatest athletic specimen ever to play the game.. 7'1, official Olympics vertical of 48", unofficially 52", beat jim brown in a sprinting race, and could bench 600 lbs.... never an athlete in history that had those stats especially at 7'1"...
Nah he prob had a 36 inch vertical at most some people like mj lavine and vince carter have a vertical of about 48 inches and they could jump much higher
Wilton Norman Chamberlain was the G.O.A.T. Shaq was good but no way is he as great as Wilt. The three greatest centers: 1. Wilt 2. Kareem 3. Shaq 4. Russell
Shaq is a great player. Wilt was a once in a century player, and we still haven't seen another one. I'm old enough to have seen both of them play in their prime; and at any point, both at the same age, Wilt would have run Shaq into the ground, gone around him like Hakeem did, not to mention, Wilt would have stayed out on the court while Shaq had to take time off to rest. Wilt was a freak of nature, incredibly naturally strong, fast, and to this day, no other player has played the minutes that he did, especially since in the 60's basketball was more of a running game. Shaq just wouldn't have been able to keep up.Rodman? Are you kidding me? Too short, not strong enough, can't shoot, can't play the minutes. Wilt would have blocked his shot and dislocated Dennis' arm just like he did Gus Johnson. That's never happened with any other player, the force of blocking the ball, extending down the opposing player's arm to dislocate his shoulder. Chamberlain's strength.
Would have loved to see Wilt in the modern era. Near Olympic level track athlete in the 400 meter dash, incredibly strong, incredible endurance, and great basketball IQ.
All that is true, but Wilts basketball IQ wasn't great at all, it was a big weakness of his. Wilt was not the type of player to make the right play given the circumstances. He made a lot of mistakes when the situation called for a better decision. It's hard to know that considering his other worldly stats, but it's true.
Shaq struggled with skilled big men like Yao, Smits, and Olajuwan. In my opinion, he would have struggled against Chamberlain too. Wilt could match or neutralize Shaq's strength, and then Wilt's cardio and skill would be too much for Shaq. We will never know for sure so it's just fun to conjecture
I couldn't have said it any better, Olajuwan consistently outplayed Shaq, and Yao more than held his own against Shaq. Wilt was more skilled, superb athlete, and arguably the greatest basketball player of all time. Shaq was definitely good, but not in the same league as Wilt. Shaq is too one dimensional.
@@quincebanks1732 Shaq was 17-11 vs Hakeem. Hakeem vs Shaq: 19.7ppg, 9.2reb, 2.9ast, 1.5stl, 2.1blk Shaq vs Hakeem: 24ppg, 12.1reb, 4.0ast, 0.8stl, 2.2blk. Shaq outscored Hakeem 16 of the 28 times they played. Out rebounded him 20 of the 28 times they played. Please nephew, explain to me how Shaq was consistently outplayed by Hakeem.
I'm old enough to have watched them both. Wilt wasn't just a big man, he was an all artist athlete who was a champion high jumper, runner and javelin thrower. I loved watching Shaq and I think he's a world class citizen but on the court, in his prime, Wilt was unstoppable.
I think Wilt simply in a pair of modern sneakers would put him over the edge vs Shaq. Anyone ever try running, let alone playing basketball, in a pair of chucks?
Dusty-I know the game of basketball and it’s history very well. Likely more than you do. Shaquille did not have the wide-ranging game that other great centers did, like Wilt, Kareem, and even Robert Parish and Bill Walton. Shaquille did score more than Robert and Bill but he didn’t have the perimeter and passing game that they did. Joshua-yes, I agree that he did have those other skills a bit, but not to the degree that the other more well-rounded setters did. Olojowan and David Robinson may have been more well-rounded as well.
@@joshuasussman4020 Being more skilled doesn't always make you a better player. Kobe Bryant is way more skilled offensively than Lebron James. Lebron is still the better basketball player with how he effects his teammates and making the team win. Hence Hakeem is way more skilled than Shaq but is he a better overall NBA player than Shaq career wise hell no.
Shaq was definitely a monster...but Wilt was WILT. His other wordly endurance, matched with his insane strength (when Arnold sais your strong ...your DAMN strong)...and Wilt actually played basketball, not just bully and dunk on everyone
Great history lesson from Larry Brown. A 45 year old Wilt showed up to run with the then "Showtime" Lakers in their Prime. Pick up game. Wilt blocks Magic's shot, Magic yells foul/game and runs off the court. Wilt asks to take the 2nd and 3rd stringers, and states no one scores in the paint again. Wilt shuts down the entire Showtime starters, and he and the subs beat the holy hell out of Magic and the rest of the starters and the Lakers starters make not one shot from inside the paint. Wilt blocks supposedly 7 shots, and intimidates many more, in the game to 10.
@@jdbhatts2912 majic johnson verifies it along with the rest of the hall of famers that wilt smoked that day. They tried to get him to come to Chicago Jordan was young. Wilt declined and it wasnt until Scotty showed and the reat history that story lol
@@markpagtama7954 What is your point. Shaq was held to 0 points in the 4th game of the 2011 Eastern Conf. Semis against the Heat, and scored 2 points in the entire playoffs, and was regressing since the 2005-2006 Playoff Season. See I can find bad stats for anyone too.
@@adamcruz7209 very true but if Wilt were a product of todays generation he would have been even greater. His physical gifts are just unmatched by any other player the NBA has ever seen. imo
Jordan played in a time when basketball was more popular and he built a brand out of himself. He's more popular than Wilt, so people give him the GOAT status.
Wilt was the most dominant due to his natural strength and his high endurance. He didn’t just beat them with power but by wearing them down and then overpowering them in the long run.
I like how you hear things being said about Wilt Chamberlain by former players play out by Wilt actually admitting it himself. Like for example people said Wilt could bench press over 600 pounds. Even says it himself. Then you hear people say he was taking it easy on opponents in the paint because he didn't wanna hurt nobody. He actually says it himself also. Thats actually what i been waiting on is for those words to come out of the G.O.A.T.S mouth. That makes those stories about him that more refreshing 😊
@@pdfbanana rodman held Shaq to 0 points multiple times. They also crossed paths when he was at the Pistons. When Shaq smacks Robertson in the video you can see Rodman in the frame 1:30
Also Ben Wallace and before that Hakeem. Shaq was a beast but if he struggled against the guys we just mentioned, imagine him going up against Wilt or Russell! For reference, prime Ewing was dominated by an older Kareem who was well past his prime. The same older Kareem also held his own against a prime Hakeem. On the other hand, an older Wilt held his own against prime Kareem! That and the stats themselves answer most of the questions as to how he would fare in any era! The only real question I have is would he still average so many minutes and 50 ppg in a season? Other than that I know he would dominate like no one’s business.
One thing about Wilt. Apparently he lifted with Schwarzenegger in his prime and he said Wilt was pound for pound with him. That kind of strength is next level and may have been enough to slow Shaq down.
We have to remember that Wilt wasn’t just a basketball player! He was a track and field champion! He performed the triple jump, he was a high jump champion, he threw the shot put and ran the 100 He both dead-lifted and benched over 600 pounds! Wilt was a four letter word STUD!! And don’t forget about Bill Russell! Also a track champion! He won 11 NBA championships! You could take Shaq’s titles and combine them with Michael Jordan’s and still not gave as many as Bill Russell won! Love Shaq! He’s a great player and human but my GOATS are Wilt and Bill!
Shaq was most dominant in his era, but the Stilts was stronger with better ball skills, shooting ability, and he ran down court to defend. I believe if Wilt played Shaq, it would have been much worse than the Dream taking Shaq to school in the 1995 NBA Finals.
@@dontkillme5332 💯 So many people discredit Rodman because of his antics, which was the reason I liked him, but he was solid in every way but scoring. When playing Shaq, Rodman always pulled out his clamps to shut the big man down.
The main difference between the two is that Wilt was a warrior for the full 40 minutes. Shaq picked his spots. Shaq dominated because the game was changing and no longer focused on the center position. So he had fewer centers to contend with, and the centers are now playing outside the paint. In Wilts days, the league was center centric. This said, Shaq would have held his own in Wilts' era. Shaq is bigger, quicker, and more athletic than some of the centers in Wilts era. But Wilt would have manhandled Shaq. Shaq wouldn't have been able to pick his spots, he'd have to bring it for 40 minutes.
O'Neal is a severely overrated, idiotic man-child and wannabe thug who needed tons of help from the officials to get his points. He displayed very little talent on the court.
No man in the history of team sport has ever impacted his chosen sport like Wilt. There will never be another like him. Shaquille O'Neal was great, one of the greatest of his time (along with Hakeem) but no way was he in the class of Wilt, may he rest in peace.
Wilt just wasn't much of a winner. Russell would get the best of him if they matched up in the finals. So, he was dominant, unless he had to play against someone with similar size and physical tools as him.
@@ericanderson7059 I personally would have said Barry Sanders and Gordie Howe. But in none of the 4 mentioned was the impact of Wilt Chaimberlain felt. They actually changed the rules of the game not protect him but to make it harder for him to excel.
@@beezum Bill Russell has explained this MANY times, saying that for the most part, his Celtics had the better TEAM from top to bottom. And that's why they won. In 1967, Wilt's Sixers had what is in the conversation for all time greatest single season TEAM. In that year, the Sixers crushed the Celtics in five games, then went on to win the championship.
Wilt moves differently than Shaq. He was a finesse athlete and more than 60% of his shots were fadeaways. Shaq’s shots are mostly within 3-5 feet from the ring and used his bulk to bulldose other players. Wilt is probably the greatest athlete to ever play, all sports included.
Wilt is arguably the greatest physical speciman of all-time. Whatever sport he got into he could've been the best at it. Unfortunately, he was at least a generation (or two) too early. It's very tough for any athlete from that era to be called the greatest because the competition wasn't even close. The money just simply wasn't there to attract the best of the best.
So how does anyone know what he'd do vs superior competition like Hakeem Kareem Shaq, Rodman, Ben Wallace. He was bullying a bunch of slouches except for Russell.
@@roastkingasaurus This is ABSOLUTELY false. He was not "bullying" anybody and they most definitely were not "slouches." Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, and (later) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were just some of the excellent competition Wilt faced. Check out highlights of their work on youtube. Not a slouch or weakass or unskilled player in the bunch. One example, for Thurmond: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HCaYyNvdFL8.html. Plus Wilt played in an era where TOUGH defense was played. Shaq, less so. LeBron MUCH LESS so.
This video blew my mind! The content... The unseen footage..... The editing..... The colorized black and white video.... The rare interviews ..... the that respect and love you are showing us about a forgotten Super Elite Athlete with unmatched strength... Endurance.... Dominance...... Respect for others...... Extremely educated and classy...... Articulate and charming......this video is better then any ESPN or Sportscenter" type" of network program, can accomplish........I love how u didn't bring up the fact that Wilt did score 100 points in one game.... Like nobody's business......loved by millions..... Peers... Sports announcers... Fans.... The league... Mainstream Hollywood...Shaq,Zo, Arnold Schwarzenegger loved him.... He only interacts with the World's finest........ And last but not least adored by millions of beautiful women and out of those,10k particularly, he made their dreams come true.... No pun intended!....... He should be on the goat debates at the least and should get more "roses" (I hate that word) from SAS and everyone on first take undisputed, pardon for your interruption! Hey ! Fans out there! Should they bring back Best Dam Sports Show Ever Period back?..... Much love to y'all! Balling 4 life! Go Lakers
In wilts eyes, Shaq's game style was bullying and not skilled....he said, "Any pro worth his name would have been gunning for Shaq!" What Wilt Chamberlain was hinting at was that he himself would have challenged shaq, and anyone who ever saw Wilt play understood that he had more than enough weapons in his arsenal to do serious damage to any opponent.... While Wilt relied on fineness when playing basketball, but when he opened up, he was unstoppable, and that's according to players who played against him....