@@scottsullivan7129 i don't think so wilt chamberlain is the one who bended down and stared mj in the eye and said Until they start changing the game to stop your greatness then you can call yourself the G.O.A.T
I LOVE that handshake between young Shaq and Wilt. Shaq is used to being the biggest and strongest guy around and the look on his face is like "What the fuck just got hold of me!?!" Some men are just strong on a different level and Wilt was one of those guys.
@@ilikefreespeech3565Wilt also had multiple rules change for him. The reason you have to wait as the free throw shooter to move is because of Wilt. He could basically dunk from the free throw line.
11 and 2 of them as player/coach. This why championship are only one factor in greatness. Lebron is the best to ever do it. 9 appearances in 10 years against the best teams to ever be assembled. His stats were better when he lost, as opposed to when he won. He would average triple doubles in final losses.
Its true, as time go the game gets softer. Back then you could touch one another. In the future you problem will not be able to breathe on one another.
The game keeps spreading out so there will be less contact. Back in wilts days there wasn't even a 3 point line. The paint used to be super condensed so people would get hit alot more. Now you can't even stand in the paint for more than 3 seconds.
Over 7ft tall 2feet from the basket. Who was his opponent guading him in the paint? Chamberlain wants to believe he was the goat but he couldn't do what MJ did. No sir.
Except MJ was 6 times Nba finals mvp 6 championship. The only player that had better numbers in playoffs than regular season and even more better numbers in finals than playoffs. Respect to Wilt. But Jordan Era was the best no doubt.
People don't understand Wilt was a superhuman. People look at Dwight Howard or Zion Williamson and think their athleticism was amazing. Wilt athleticism was through the roof.
A lot of people can't comprehend it even after they have seen the film. He moves so gracefully for a man that size it eludes the eye. On top of that, he was stronger than Shaq. Perhaps Wilt was too nice to bully his way on the court... but maybe he should have.
@@gersonFls7 yes, he could bench 600, shaq could only bench 450. When wilt was 59 years old. He could still bench 465. Plus wilt had a 50' vert and he was almost 7'. Theres a video where his fingers touched like almost a foot above the backboard itself. He was something else, imagine giannis nowadays times 5 ish
@@youtubeyt5694 nah it was recorded sum like 48 im pretty sure. But theres a legend that says he could jump 50+ bc of the fact that he could reach above the backboard but idk so ur prob right but it was around 48 inches that he could jump
The three second violation rule was created because of Wilt Chamberlain… in Europe there is no three second violation …that’s why it is so easy to score . In comparison to wilt 1 million players could wait in the paint for him to get there but they could not stop it
Not too hard when you are about 6 inches taller than everyone and you just sit under your hoop all game. Theres a reason they made a 3 second rule. Nobody likes a sandbagger. Lazy mfers.
Wilt would be shocked to know that some people stupidly do not put him in the top 5. Wilt led NBA in scoring in 7 of his 14 seasons averaging 40 points per game shooting 51%. In the other 7 seasons he averaged 21 points per game while shooting 62%. He could have won 10+ scoring titles if he shot just a little more. Wilt let NBA in rebounds in 11 of his 14 seasons averaging 28 RPG. In the other 3 seasons he averaged 21 rebounds per game. Wilt even led the NBA in assists one year.
If he just shot a little more? He has the record for most FG attempts. The only reason he scored so much is he took such a massive number of shots, just ridiculous amounts. Here is a lit of the most FG attempts made in a season (some of Wilt's seasons only had 80 games): 1. Wilt Chamberlain* 3159 1961-62 2. Wilt Chamberlain* 2770 1962-63 3. Wilt Chamberlain* 2457 1960-61 4. Wilt Chamberlain* 2311 1959-60 5. Charlie Scott* 2305 1971-72 6. Wilt Chamberlain* 2298 1963-64 7. Michael Jordan* 2279 1986-87
Jordan’s career field goal percent was .497. Wilt’s was .540. Wilt shot a lot in his first 7 years but chose to shoot much less in his final 7 years. He averaged 30 shots in his first 7 years and 14 in his last 7.
Well said DaddyGamer..well said.....when I hear some of these hard core fans who say things like Walt Frazier could not play in today's NBA....or Kareem wouldn't be effective....say what!,,,PEACE
@@shanestanton4489 Remember that despite being lean muscular, Wilt was around 310-320 lbs whereas Giannis is 250-260, so yeah I’d say about 60 lbs heavier
Me swearing on my life Gianni has a jumper and can shoot mid ranges better. Not to mention could absolutely slap wilt 1v1. Don't ever "hint" that wilt is better than the Greek freak himself.
Wilt is still literally the closest thing to 'superhuman' that has ever existed and he was in his prime 50 years ago, it's mind boggling to think what he could have achieved with the benefit of modern sports science and nutrition.
His stats are massively inflated because he didn't have to face up against a Shaq or an Olajuwon, or a prime Kareem, or a Ewing, or a Robinson, so there was hardly anyone to defend him... He did however constantly face Russell and the Celtics, who constantly beat him.
Wilt was always considered the best or second best in nba history. Then social media came and flipped everything upside down and created revisionist history!
What Wilt Chamberlain said about "they asked me to do other stuff, I stopped scoring and if I hadn't I could've averaged..." that is also exactly the same case for Dr J...they asked him to tone down his game for the 76ers which he willingly did but everybody who played with him or watched him play in the ABA all say he was way better/more dominant and could've done the same in the more slower watered down NBA which he did in spurts... Jordan was allowed to be Jordan when the league developed into a cash cow but Julius Ervings ABA game saved both leagues through the merger because everybody especially the NBA wanted to see him in the televised NBA where the money and more fans were...sucks that he and Wilt had to be asked not to be the dominant players that they were despite how much it benefited the league especially later on.
@@FoobasSports 💯 I watched him in the 80, 82, & 83 NBA Finals and some conference Finals...I watched him blow my mind further in the 83, 84, and especially the 87 NBA All-star game's...I'm not even gon elaborate, just SMH 😌
Doesn't that show that there was no competition for Wilt? I mean, being so big, strong and tall...ofcourse it's easier for him to dominate. Jordan had to work his ass off with his skills to win the game. Can be seen in all the close calls Jordan had to win, he had to be exellent in his play aotherwise he would loose the game, where Wilt Easily could score 100 a game.
With only 10 teams in the NBA at that time. I will never say Wilt isn’t one of greatest to ever play. But if you put a prime Shaq against 8 average centers and throw in one Hakeem Olajuwon. Shaq will destroy the league but always lose the the Dream. That’s hidden secret the nba never talks about. It was only a few teams and wilt had only one true rival. Wilt vs Bill and we all know who won those battles.
@@ivanflores3249 Let's be honest. A average person now could have easily averaged 15 PPG in his era. But what's so mind blowing is that he was born into that era and was still averaging 50 points PPG for a entire season.
Wilt: ‘I don’t like Jordan calling himself the best player’ Jordan: ‘I don’t like LeBron calling himself the best player’ LeBron 15 years from now: ‘I don’t like _____ calling himself the best player’ This argument will never die
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese he's the best in the league since 2012. 4 MVPs. 4 FMVPs. 4 Championships. 8 Straight Finals Appearances. He had no business being there in 2007 and 2018
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese he's not the goat. But the 2016 Cavs and 2020 Lakers aren't superteams. And who's best if it's not LeBron? KD? Who joined Currys Team after blowing a 3-1 lead to him, a 3-1 Lead that Bron came back from. Oh and it wasn't rigged, just because lebron won. That KD who joined a superteam? Or is it Curry who has 0 FMVPs? LeBron was the best player of the 2010s. And is still the best player in the world. And I'm a Bucks fan. He's top 3 All time, Behind MJ, and you could argue for Kareem, but your blind hate for LeBron isn't letting you see witness his greatness. And if you reply to this with moments he's come up small I can do that with any superstar you throw at me aside from MJ.
Wilt was hands down the most dominant and overall greatest player all time. Jordan was the best talented player and probably the player that made the NBA the most popular in his time. I just honestly believe that the all time greats like Wilt, Russell and Kareem played, no players after could physically take the pace and beating they took and even finish the game. With that said, todays players are more shooting better and would never try and go to the paint to score. That’s my opinion.
I think you have it slightly off. Wilt was the most dominant, but MJ was the greatest. Talented is hard to say. I respect your opinion though, Wilt was unbelievable.
@@TheHubeef that’s the biggest argument against him but titles aren’t necessarily the indicator of the greatest individual playing in a team oriented sport. Wilt carried a lot of the teams he was on. Robert Horry has 7 championships, is he the greatest ever?
It took Steph Curry 13 years (with all those 3 pt shots made) to top the points charts, in Golden state history. Previous record was held by Wilt, who spent 5 years with Warriors. The greatest of all times.
He was great but notice when he is asked who would win prime him or prime MJ he kept saying he would beat him in his era cos wilt damn well knew he could never beat mj in his era
Hello question about wilt I want to know what’s his workout routine or what workouts did he do without equipment what was his persona like and any books or websites u recommend so I could learn about wilt?
@@getoff84 Wilt was better than Mj but not the chosen Baphomet for the Nba. If you think Jordan's 6 for 6 never passed a game 6 was natural, you buggin..Jordan can have the rep and logo and all that but he doesnt lead in Stats. Doesnt lead in Chips, doesnt lead TEAMS OR TEAMMATES [PERIOD], and inwas being facetious my forst sentence cuz Wilt was untouchable. Lifted Arndold S. like it was nothing. Jordan couldnt even pay kf a gambling debt and someone had to die for it and he was forced to retire to save Nba face. Or maybe you believe Magic really had Aids. And if you do the you have to also believe the white man telling you that a black man had sex with a monkey which created the "virus". Mj was not the best at everything and never led a team by himself anywhere except a first round exit. He is the #1 puppet like Brady. You either see it or you don't but I'm not tryna shatter your dreams
WILT was the most Dominant Player the game has ever KNOWN. he was unstoppable on BOTH sides of the ball. NO PLAYER will ever score 100 Points or grab 50 rebounds in a game. NO ONE.
@@cavsfan5236 I don’t see how he has a low work ethic if he was in amazing shape. At his weight and size he ran a 40 time less than 5 seconds. Bench pressed more than NFL defensive lineman.
@@roronoazoro4713 he could idiot. Unfortunately they played 5 v 5 instead of 1 v 1. This isn’t tennis. Yall are delusional judging a team game this way. Russell had the better team. Wilt the better player. Kinda like Bron v Warriors. They always had a better team but Bron always the best in the series.
I firmly believe Wilt was the best. He had the conditioning of a truely elite track and field athlete, could compete favorably in strength training against all but struck power lifters, and had to hold back on so many occasions to avoid hurting other players. The game changes with time, and while I think the playmaking strateg, footwork, and shooting skills of todays players is above where Wilt was in his time, those are learned skills that I have no doubt Wilt could also learn if he had been born half a century later. Wilt will probably always be the goat. There are only a few deserving consideration for the title, and Michael is on the list along side Labron. It is those two and Wilt. Without question Wilt has it. Media attention and crazy sponsor deals make Michael and Labron bigger names, but I’d rather have Wilt on my team if I could only choose 1 of those three players.
You gotta respect his confidence tho. After all the records he has, the stats, has a 50 inch vert, crazy fast, can bench press 500lb, 7’1, 275 pounds. Wilt chamberlain seems like a myth, this guy was like super man back then
TBH, He could've scored multiple 100 point games, average 50+ pts his whole career and play until he was 50 if he wanted to. Wilt is a monster. The world took him too soon. RIP to the legend.
Listen to what he said in the interview... Until they start changing the game to stop your greatness, you can't be considered great. So... He saying he changed the game literally.
@@wingedhussar1453 Exactly, and Wilt has the nerve to bring up the big men in his era when Jordan played against the best center era of all time. The 80's and 90's centers and PF's were way better than in the 60's.
I highly doubt Jordan would've scored a 100 points just by 2's. Three pointers free throws help these player now of days. Wilt was a Beast! If Wilt & Jordan played in their prime... Then my monies on Wilt.
Arnold Schwarzenegger said that Wilt could life him like he was nothing, the guy was an absolute beast physically. He could’ve been the best of all time if he was interested in scoring more than he was in assisting
@@ChingelBopDingelFlop wilt wasnt a team player he was so despised as a teammate that one great lakers team with Elgin Baylor and Jerry West voted 9-1 not to add him because the knew he was just a stat chaser. His indifference, immaturity, and selfishness (all of which is well-documented) made him a bad player. He wanted to chase records, women, the beach and wanted people to think he was cool and amazing. He didnt care if he would win.
@@dlow4872 having the best statistics of all time makes you the GOAT imo, people look at Pele, Messi, CR7 numbers and think "oh shit thats fucking amazing" but people look at wilts stats and think its a lie, simply because they were so great
@@ChingelBopDingelFlop thats fair but basketball is a team game not solo wilt didn't make his team mates great he actually hurt them by only focusing on his stats and trying to be the coolest guy on the team. Jordan learned that and actually passed the ball to win the game instead of hogging like in his early career and losing to the pistons and Knicks. Stats don't make you a good player what you do for your team makes you good. Stepping down from being the best to help your team shows you gave respect for your team and are selfless. If the Lakers didn't want him at all you know their was a good reason. If he however worked on his teamwork and pushed himself and his teammates he would have undeniable been the best. But he didn't care about any of his teammates.
Michael Jordan; 12 NBA records. Wilt Chamberlain: 73 NBA records. You can't argue against Wilt's domination as a player. They were changing the NBA to stop Wilt. Bringing brand new rules in, to curb his aggressive play. Like Wilt said; _"Mike? The NBA were on your side. The NBA were against me."_
Dude just watch NBA games from Wilt's era. It's like watching modern basketball in slow motion. Shit was so obviously very proto stage and it was probably easy street for any talented player compared to modern era basketball which Jordan ushered in. It's amazing to me anybody could jump through the mental hoops to convince themselves any of those guys would stand a chance against Jordan
@@dariusleonard4658 He wasn't. Do you realize Michael Jordan did the exact same thing Wilt Chamberlain did and cut back his points and for the same reason. Wilt had size and used it effectively. Michael Jordan couldn't do the exact same things Wilt because of his size. Wilt had no life that's why he had to make sure at all times people knew how great he was.
The widened the lane to take away Wilt's dominance inside. They banned the DUNK for Kareem. They eliminated backing a player down once he is set to stop Shaq, and they, they, uh, they began the flagrant foul so you can't guard Jordan hard. LOL.
This must have been said prior to what was literally called the "Jordan Rule" by Magic & other players of his era. Because they made excessive or rough fouls 'flagrants fouls'. To try and curb that "defensive" approach everytime MJ would 'air' into the paint. This is interesting to watch knowning similar arguments are being made btwn Jordan & LBJ. Who is a true hybrid of the two - a 'Strong' Big & 'Fast' Guard aka Point-Forward. Regardless of who ppl think is the GOAT, I ain't never seen a player like Lebron. Who's still making a good argument for himself & his career isn't even over yet. #Facts
@Ked Taczynski yeah those players have those qualities but none to the extent LBJ has shown & his numbers prove it. The only one that comes close is Magic & even he admits Bron is better. But to each his own, we can agree to disagree.
@Ked Taczynski dude I just clarified & acknowledged your point - it's not that serious lol Like I said we can agree to disagree. It's just the comment section not an exhausted commentary on NBA history 😉
Never forget this about Wilt. He holds more individual records then anyone in ANY sporting event in history. Let that sink in. Any athlete in any sport Wilt has most records ever. Period.
@@secoTheSonicFan this dude is using the same wrong argument in every comment lol anyone that has ever read or researched basketball would tell you otherwise. Go educate yourself and stop spreading nonsense
YvngGoat ...Why should Jordan take it personally? The latter wasn't around when Wilton Norman Chamberlain entered the NBA. Before the latter arrived, William Felton "Bill" Russell was in the league. The Jim Crow policy was still law at that time. I'm certain that Michael Jeffrey Jordan was grateful.
Jordan never said he was the greatest or the goat cause it would be disrespectful to the one that came before him. Even kobe, bird, magic never said any of that. Only lebra said it, not once not twice....lol
Delusional. MJ has said, to summarize, it is NOT fair to claim GOAT status when there is no opportunity to compete against the greats of each era of the game.
Admittedly, as fan of MJ/Kobe/LeBron and all these modern guys, it's really hard to imagine how good Wilt was. We see guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Giannis, all these giants that are great athletes. And the numbers as far as vertical/bench press/etc just seem ridiculous in any athletic competition. That's why I don't like the idea of 1 GOAT of a team sport anyway. But did yall notice 3:40??? That's Shaq and Patrick Ewing, with Wilt throwing the jump ball. Not only does he make them seem regular size, watch the hand shake and how Shaq gets pulled in. Maybe some of those Wilt stories are true 🤣
@@abel78750 what? Do you not know how to read? You've seen HIGHLIGHTS of Wilt. You haven't watched full games day in and day out LIVE like we can watch now. Seeing HIGHLIGHTS is not the same as being able to see a player live for a whole game. Obviously he was amazing. But the few minutes of him actually playing does not tell the whole story. And it certainly help that in what little footage of Wilt that exists, he's playing against guys that wouldn't even be bench-warmers in today's NBA. So the footage of Wilt that is available still doesn't make it any easier to compare him to today's players.
@Vey8ron lol give me a break. Today's USA players have alot less skill then in the past. That is why the slow Europeans and teams could mop the floor with today's USA players cause they are much more skilled. The NBA is not as respected or revered as it once was in the past. USA fundamentals suck which is why nobody is watching anymore hence the crappy ratings. Get out of here kid.
@@abel78750 you obviously know nothing about basketball and only repeat what you see on social media. ZERO Euro teams can beat an NBA team. It would take a whole European All-Star team to even be competitive in the NBA. You are delusional if you think otherwise. Besides Luca Doncic, the only Euro stars in the NBA are 7ft+ (Giannis/Jokic/Wembenyama) and even Luca is big for his position. You are either completely ignorant or delusional and should never waste your time speaking about sports again. The only time International competition even seems fair is when the US sends a bunch of High schoolers and collegiate players because the good players are resting. The NBA is, always has been, and will continue to be the BEST basketball players/teams in the world.
@@chemquests exactly. The thing that got me was the fact that he said “we shouldn’t judge a players greatness based on their rings”. This is arguably one the the greatest to ever do it and if he is saying that then I think the whole who is the G.O.A.T argument is stupid. Also, ppl tend to be bias especially when talking about Mike.
Odd editing job aside, Wilt's right. There's nothing Jordan can say "they didn't stop me from doing it, I just stopped doing it" about. When Wilt decided to lead the league in scoring, he did; to lead the league in assists, he did; to lead the league in rebounds, he did. There is no more unstoppable force in the history of the NBA than Wilt.
Unstoppable in different ways though. Wilt had power, height, and size that Jordan simply didnt have. That allowed Wilt to post up and back anyone down. Jordan was unstoppable in a different way, with his speed and accuracy. I actually didn't like Jordan all that much while growing up, but as an adult I definitely see the argument for Jordan being GOAT... One of the major things I hadn't realized as a kid was that Jordan didn't really shoot 3 pointers. That says a lot to his skills and style of attacking the rim when he has such a high career PPG and FG% but got there with only 1/4 the amount of 3 pointers that Lebron James has.
@@CallMeBezzy My granddaddy said Wilt used to roll his opponents up into a ball and dunk them through the hoop. But me I just look at the numbers, and the numbers say he was unstoppable.
Wilt wasn't that good in the postseason though, and that's where michael jordan takes the edge. Nobody remembers jordan's regular season stats, they just remember the titles and the insane postseason dominance.
@@idontexist1681 Agree completely. And even though Wilt was a lot bigger than Bill Russell (RIP), Russell's team beat Wilt's team like 75% of the times they played each other! No question Wilt was one of the best of all time, I just have never seen how he qualifies as THE best of all time!
Most of us didn’t watch Wilt Chamberlain play in his prime. So it’s hard to say he’s the GOAT. But Wilt was the most freak athlete to ever walk the face of the earth. To be 7’1 with his speed strength and skill. He probably could destroy MJ in 1v1.
Dude was a freak of nature. 7 ft, 280lbs. He ran track, high jump, played like a guard. I think he is the only player not impressed with MJ and openly let him know 🤣. He has a point though. They changed the rules to stop him because he was toying with the league. He was a man among boys. Even in his later years he was in tip top top shape too he could have played into his late 40s/50s. Too bad he had heart trouble. Didn’t know he was such a cool personable guy too.
The NBA took a different approach with MJ, they wanted him to succeed, and it helped the league when he did, imagine if they had taken the same approach with Wilt.
@@forgottenstreets Bull shit, have you ever heard of the Pistons and the brutality they brought to the game? Guess you just saw the last 2 games of MJ's career.
What’s crazy is that he REALLY would average 40ppg till he retired😂 man was still at top shape even in his 50s Ps.. I’m talking bout if he chose to just score only, not play-make & all that other shit
And, is that the best way to describe it? Because, looking at video, it seems like Gus fell, and dislocated his shoulder on the floor. The contact might've been all ball, which might make it ok to describe the block did the dislocation.
Wilt is one the greatest iconic legendary athletes of all time has been and will always be 100 points in a game WOW the best athletic ability in the world sensational all around the globe and then some.
Michael referenced this in his latest interview, people are always going to think the best player from their era was the GOAT. Wilt is highly underrated though
Bill Russell doesn't get the same respect while being in the same era as Wilt. Even Wilt wanted Bill to be respected more. Look how quickly he brought up Bill's 11 rings.
@@wh_kers Yeah it's kind of funny that the "plumbers and firemen" and "rec league" disses only come out against Russell and Cousey, I guess Jerry West, Wilt, Elgin Baylor, Bob Pettit, Nate Thurmond, Gail Goodrich etc must have been not so great plumbers, accountants and firemen to have had to plat basketball for a side job.
To be fair, he would have scored less points with a 3 point line. He couldn't shoot from range. Even if he could he couldn't get the put back. The put back was where he got a lot of his points. With people shooting from further away the ball would bounce off the rim further and it would be harder for him to get the rebound
@@saucegodnas7318 dude can lift 600 pounds, even arnold talked about him so i'd say he's stronger than shaq for sure, mans also did track and field, long jump and high jump, dude's crazy athletic for his size
Faster? Yes. More athletic? Yes. But stronger? No way. There were 2 or 3 guys hacking on Shaq and he still dunked the ball. He broke the whole backboard. Nobody could back Shaq down in the post or stop him in the post if he gets angry.
Wilt: "They changed the game to help you Michael. They changed the game to hinder me". When anyone doubts or questions the greatness of Chamberlain, just remind them of this quote. Enough said.
@@JesseChasteen Jessie. Let an ol fellas drop you some knowledge. It's a GAME played by TEAMS. In a game Jordan would have ample opportunities to go at Wilt, but the bottom line would be, what TEAM won. If your argument is who won more championships, (Wilt vs Jordan) I would graciously bow down. But that's not our focus. Look at the numbers. Look at how many rules were changed because of this man. Study how his influence shaped the entire way the game was & is played. (The only other player that has had that kind of cultural impact is Steph Curry. Another conversation for another time) One year he played MORE than 48 minutes a game. TRANSLATION: He played every minute of every game, including overtime. If you still have a question, my retort is:100. This man scored dropped 3 digits vs OTHER grown a$! MEN. And before u say the guys he played against were bums, do me a favor: Go in your neighborhood, get 5 kids, get another guy to be on your squad, then go to the park and play. You and your boy shoot, rebound play defense and run up & down the court til YOU score 100. Shot free throws if you want. Just score in 3 digits. I can all ready tell you, brotha, you gotta be working your butt off. Oh yeah the year he hung a 100 on the Knicks , he AVERAGED 50 points a game. So if he scored 25 tonight, he had to score 75 the next game.. JUST TO BE ON AVERAGE. Let that sink in for a minute. And that's not taking into account rebounding, passing , setting scenes etc. The point is: There has NEVER been, in the history of the NBA, a greater physical force then Wilton Norman Chamberlain. Full stop.
@@jefferysimmons4501 lol thats why Jordan still holds the most ppg in the league? Playoff ppg too? He didn't average 50 points a game lol and he played against 5 teams full of plumbers. Old guy? How old are you? You sound like one of these ignorant millennial
A lot of people don't know this but Wilt had been scheduled to fight Mohammed Ali until Wilt's agent talked him out of it. And had Wilt obtained an Olympic track coach, his speed, endurance and long legs were such that he would have won the hundred meters, 200 meters and quarter mile all in the same Olympics. In fact, a lot of people don't know this but around the1980s or 1990s Wilt was coaching a women's track team. That is how much he loved the sport.
He is, that is because he is a conservative. Have you noticed that all back conservatives are pretty smart? Liberals like BLM NBA stars only repeat what they see on TV.
@@Emk315 well that was a stupid comment. Tell me, why do more educated people vote Democrat In most elections than Republican, even after accounting for inner city and “urban” votes? (Not saying those are unintelligent people by any means, but they have a left lean and don’t always have the same secondary school education opportunities as others, in general.) Regardless, vote on the person, not the ticket - that’s just stupid.
I think people got hyped on MJ in the 90’s and don’t want to let go for the same reason people say Jimi Hendrix or Eric Clapton is the greatest guitarist of all time. Nostalgia.
Rubio russel and shaq are better. Yeah sure he has all these individual accomplishments but it was against barely 6 feet white centers and bill russel destroyed him
@@woshixijinping3778 he literally had a 55 rebound game vs bill russell... the celtics starting 5 being damn near all hall of famers in a era where there was no free agency for wilt to build a team is why bill has 11 championships, not to say russell isnt great too, but 1on1 wilt owned him many times
Knowing how wilt was he probably woulda called you a bitch for crying. Also apparently my dad was about in tears as well being a 17 basketball super fan (I was born 5 years later)
I remember buying a basketball magazine back in summer 1999 and just read the news "Wilt has passed away blabla...", he was my teenage years hero, and the first time I read something about him in a magazine was about his dead, I was devastated.
I remember reading the sports page in Australia in 1999. I didn't know much about him then but I felt the impact of his death. I knew even then he was a larger then life figure.
Mike was promoted so much by big corporations and the NBA. Surely he was amazing. But Wilt is making some incredibly profound points. I just think people are beholden to Mike being the GOAT, simply because people say so, not based upon demonstrative facts.
Wilt makes some valid arguments. His FG% argument being the most important. Not to mention the way he could affect the game with D. on and off the court!
How tf his FG% argument is the most important when this mdf was a CENTER who was shooting 95% of the time from 0-3ft and Jordan was a SHOOTING GUARD shooting midranges all day lmfao
@skyh2394 how the fuck? Cuz the dude could just toss the ball in 60% of the time or whatever his fg% was while Jordan had to work harder and shot at a lower clip. Want to even the playing field? Make a 20-foot high hoop.
During MJ's first 3-peat, Olajuwon's Rockets defeated the Bulls 5-1 in the regular season. Jordan officially said to a reporter: "It's a good thing they can't get out of the West because we have no answer for that Monster. I don't know that we can beat them." Hakeem Olajuwon's stats in those 6 games: 20 pts, 13 reb, 2.7 ast, 2.3 stl, 4.0 blk. Now replace Hakeem with Wilt ...
'The difference between you and me is that they had to change the rules, so I couldn't dominate. They changed the rules for you so that you could dominate. **
The 4 sport records likely to be the toughest to beat, if ever are: [1] most points in an NBA game - 100 scored by Wilt Chamberlain. March 2 1962 vs NY Knicks. 2nd highest is Kobe Bryant with 82. [2] fastest 50 goals in NHL - Wayne Gretzky scoring 50 goals in 39 games. The 2nd fastest 50 goals is Mike Bossy in 50 games. [3] Most assists in NHL - Wayne Gretzky 163 in 1985-86 season. 2nd most assists is also Gretzky with 135 in 1984-85 season. 3rd Gretzky 125 assists in 82-83 season. 4th also was Gretzky with 122 assists in 1990-91 5th, you guessed it Gretzky with 121 assists in 86-87 season. The only person to come close to Gretzky, if you can call it that is Mario Lemieux in 6th spot for most assists in a season with 109. [4[ Most points in NHL season - Wayne Gretzky with 215. 2nd most points goes to Mario Lemieux with 199. Now I bet this list can be added to but when it comes to records in NBA to stand the test of time they’ll come up more Wilt than Michael Jordan. Wilt was to the NBA as Gretzky was to hockey. And I already see 1 post below by @11DNA11 to prove this point: MJ scored 50+ points 31 times in his career. Wilt scored 50+ in 45 games of ONE SEASON. Gretzky & Wilt were and still are the Goats of their sport and league.
Wilt has a great argument for the GOAT status. I wrote and published a 471-page book called In Search of the NBA GOAT 2022 that seems to agree with him.
That last line “until you’re so great that they start changing the game to stop your greatness, then I don’t think you have the right…” that hits on another level of truth.
@@GavriloPewPew Really? Because Wayne Embry, Zelmo Beatty, Walt Bellamy, Kareem, Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, and Bob Lanier all went to D1 or D2 schools and dominated
@@lankz458 everyone is scrubs in the eyes of wilt, mj, lebron, shaq, kareem. They make it look ez. Its just now the nba knows how to give scrubs more trophies and different stat lines to make them look good 😂😂
Wilt played in an era that had 70+% white American born players in it throughout his career that’s not the NBA. For example, there are 5% white American born players in today’s game. That’s a gigantic drop off. The first black person wasn’t even aloud to play basketball till 1950 and even after racism plagued the sport. Wilt was a finesse player who was defended by one person. Wilt never had to match up with so many African Americans and never with European players. The average height and weight was shorter/lighter back in Wilts era. Shaq was so good they changed the rules in 2001 like front court players being able to play zone and implementing the def 3sec rule. I have never seen a player once he catches the ball have two guys immediately on him the way Shaq did. The 50’s, 60’s and 70’s is the ABA era the real NBA started in the 80’s 90’s 2000’s. I’m not saying Wilt couldn’t play 90’s & 2000’s basketball but to think he would be as great as he was when he played with the Sixers I’m sorry your crazy. Back when Wilt played you could shoot the foul shot then immediately go get the ball smh lol Shaq would’ve loved that easy money.
thats the way it should be but people are brainwashed into taking shots at him and the older players calling them "unathletic" and saying it was easier for Wilt. If it was easier it was only because Wilt was better.
Not older enough to have seen Wilt, live in person. but I will say Wilt was the most naturally dominant player ever, more so than Shaq. He was so intimidating, that other teams, fans, and the league wanted to get him out. To me he is like Messi, the most naturally gifted athlete, while Jordan is more like Cristiano Ronaldo. Jordan worked harder and his mental strength was above everyone else, but Wilt was naturally more gifted and dominant then anyone else who played the game. God gave Jordan less but he made more out of what he was given.
@@ryanwaziki8403 Yes but, Wilt jumps higher, he is faster, stro nger, has more stamina, he shoots the ball better, (his fallaway jumper, he was incredible with it).Giannis is probably just slightly better from FT line. Wilt is better defensively, offensively, better team player.
@Christian Voros mj real vertical wasn't even measured the 2002 kings vs lakers is a mystery everything is a mystery so we'll just have to trust it big o triple doubles too
Just look at the record books. Wilt should be on the level of Babe Ruth. Though Wilt was a far better athlete but no less dominant for his era. As much as Wilt worked out when no one else really did, today, better training and workouts, he would still dominate like no other...
@@valentinyi3987 - Maybe not as a ball handler or shot creator but Wilt's influence on a game was greater. Offense and Defense. MJ to me had the greatest killer instinct. Kobe was more skilled offensively but not a better defender than MJ. and MJ had more natural ability.
Wow, I’ve seen a little bit of Wilt’s argument before but I’ve never seen him lay out all his points like this before. He made many beautiful points like his speed, and the fact that he stopped scoring like he did in the past.
Bill Russell is an all time great Centre and widely regarded as the best defender the game has ever seen. He played many head to head with Wilt. You know what’s the highest number of points Wilt ever scored on Russell in a head to head game: 62 points! Highest rebounds grabbed against Russell in a game: 55 rebounds!
@@markfrost2707 November 24, 1960 - against Russell and his Boston Celtics. You only need to do a simple search online. You can’t even be bothered to do that???????
@@mikeyshanghai9801 I looked it up as well since I was curious who won that game. The game that Wilt broke the rebound record with 55; he actually lost against Russell. But that same game he only scored 34 points. What game and date did Wilt score 62 on Russell?
"If he played the game when we did" will always be used as an excuse it seems. I hear people say the exact same thing with the LeBron/Jordan debate today
@RandomThoughts I think you are missing the point. He saying people are using this same argument against Lebron. Its just ironic thats all. Each era will always believe their guy was the best.
@Robert Johnson not weaker. Each era puts more emphasis on skill. As a result, the previous era tries to discredit through current era by pointing how well they fouled people and shortened careers.
Man wilt was a big guy 1 had vertical 2 can control the ball 3 can shoot with accuracy 4 had mobility like an athlete not sluggish big guys clearly had good twitch and long endurance muscles no wonder the game had to be changed for him he would of set unfathionable records others after would of not reached when he shook shaqs hands shaq felt something that was different in power and hand strength i love jordan but wilt is the father of basketball
At 50 years old there was a pick up game with Wilt with some second rate college players on his team taking on Magic in his prime with some really good pros. Magic liked to stack those pick up games. It came down to game point each. Wilt blocked Magic's shot. Magic called goal tending. Wilt said it was not goal tending. After a few minutes of arguing Wilt said lets start from zero then. That game ended up 11-0 & Wilt blocked everyone of those shots at 50 years old.
@@wiltisdabest That pickup game BBBYpsi is referring to with Chamberlain & Magic happened in summer 1986 on the campus of UCLA at the Pauley Pavilion gym!!!!!
@@2kmichaeljordan438 It's not moronic if you know Wilts personality then obviously you will know he was a very competitive person. He also ripped on Kareem for not being a better rebounder/defender. So of course he would say he was better lmao.
@@user-be9pm4tj3c Jordan was a competitive person. Did he say he was the goat? No, he was humble. Wilt could’ve been humble, but he wasn’t, and he said he was better than Jordan.
Wilt is certainly a top 3-5 all time greatest players - arguably #2 behind Jordan IMO, though he was physically more dominant and ahead of his time. Much like Lebron. But some context is needed in evaluating Wilt, as a Center, versus other Centers. Then adjusting for comparisons to guards or forwards. From an athletic standpoint, Wilt was undoubtedly the greatest athlete the NBA has ever seen, and was way ahead of this time. His rebounding and shotblocking was off the charts as a result. But his offensive skills were very rough, especially early in his career. The other aspect to this context is the lane width changes. Wilt played 6 seasons for Warriors from 1959-65. The lane used to resemble a "key", which is why they called it the key and it was only 6' wide up until 1952. George Mikan was a great player, but he certainly benefited from the 6' wide lane ... i.e. in the low post, he was less than 3' from the rim on either side. So when Wilt started playing the NBA in 1959, the lane was 12''. So in the low post, he could set up less than 6' from the rim. However, per below stats and link, Wilt shot just 50% FG his first 6 seasons. And once the lane widened from 12' to 16', he did get smarter/more selective in his shots taken and by 1966 was definitely passing more a few years into his Sixers stint. But if you look at Wilt's ppg and FG % after the lane was widened from 12' to 16', his scoring numbers are very comparable to Shaq, who was shooting around or above 60% FG his entire career ... not just the 5 years Wilt did it. So Shaq shot 58% FG for his entire 19 year career playing with the 16' lane. So scoring wise, Shaq was every bit as great if not better across his whole career. Though he was not as dominant a rebounder as Wilt, nor the athlete Wilt was .. compared to rest of league. Though Shaq started as a great athlete, just couldn't keep the weight off. But Shaq could argue the rules and the game changed a lot since the days most centers avg'd 15-25 rpg ... the rules favored traditional centers in the 60's and 70's. So centers could hang around much closer to the basket and snag more easy rebounds. PLus very few centers could ever stretch the floow to 15' much less a 3 pt line. Look it up ...lots of centers avg over 15 rpgs in 60's and 70's ... very common for guys you never heard of nor are hall of fame or even all stars. Getting 15 rpgs in todays game/rules is far more difficult, especially with what the 3 pt line and defensive 3 seconds as done to the game to spread the floor. Bottom line, Wilt is way up there, arguably #2 or 3 GOAT. But noone won and dominated all phases of the game, offense, defense, transition. Plus combined that with great athleticism and nonstop effort, amd lastly played with no fear of any moment. Stat junkies have done analysis to prove Jordan (as a guard) was statistically the best ever .. take all stats relative to the position played. So when you consider all the Jordan tangibles and then the intangibles and the 6 rings, Jordan is the GOAT. Wilt couldn't carry a team to a championship like Jordan ... he just couldn't, or he would have. Team Games MP FG FGA FG% FT FTA FT% TRB AST PF PTS Warriors 429 47.2 16.8 33.3 .506 7.8 14.1 .555 25.1 3.0 1.9 41.5 ... 1959-64, lane 6' from rim,, avg'd 41 ppg but shot just 50% FG Sixers 277 46.3 11.2 19.2 .583 5.2 11.4 .456 23.9 6.8 2.0 27.6 ... 1964-68, lane 8' from rim, avg'd just 27.6 ppg, but improved to 58% FG Lakers 339 43.7 7.0 11.5 .605 3.7 7.9 .475 19.2 4.3 2.2 17.7 ... 1968-73 lane 8' from rim, avg;d just 18 ppg, shoointg 60% FG www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html
Jay Dee and Blue Ray, Wilt was the better athlete overall, Ran a 4.5 40, had a 40+ Vert which probably was much higher, could bench a whole 500, and he was versatile and would dominate in any position he was put in. Want him to be a scorer? He averages 50 points a game in a single season, want him to be a good rebound guy? He averages 20+ rebounds his entire career. Not to mention his success playing other sports after his basketball career such as Volleyball. Jordan was the best of his time without a doubt, but if it came to pure athleticism and who is the GOAT both statistically and who was the more dominant player, Wilt towers over Jordan.
U have to remember that Jordan was at least 30- 40 more percent more skilled than the best players in wilts era. With hop's as well. It would of been a sight to see.
Look the record books end this debate. Secondly, when Wilt had good players and coaches he set records for league wins which ended in championships that still stand today. That doesn't discount the fact he took his teams to the playoffs every year. I can't say for sure what would happen in a one-on-one scenario but Wilt would block most of Michael's shots if he was inside the three-point line. Could Michael block Wilts shots? Not a chance. Like Closterman said, "in a different universe could Wilt have been Russel? Probably. Could Russel have ever been Wilt? Never. Not a chance. There is only one person who could have ever been Wilt and that was Wilt".
He was 7 ft 1, benched 500, ran track, played volleyball, god knows how many other sports, and had a 48-inch vert and outstanding defense. he is so underrated.
Okay, let's put that in perspective. The majority of NBA level players are exceptional athletes with superb hand-eye coordination. They would all be good track and field athletes or volley-ball players. As for the bench pressing and 48-inch vert, that is anecdotal and highly, highly unlikely. I have seen the footage of his track and field exploits. Impressive but not world class. Someone with his arm length does not bench-press that much and the 48-inch vertical, where was that ever measured? The highest ever recorded vertical was 46-inch. A 7ft1 player jumping 2 inches higher? Urban myth. He was incredibly dominant and still teams traded him in his prime. He was obsessed with stats but not necessarily with the one that mattered most, winning titles.
@@omnivorous65 lies jordan kilganon and john jordan both recorded 50 inch verts and just cuz ur arms are long doesnt mean you cant bench a lot. And remember how physically advanced( if that make sense) he was.
@@demah4063 Tbh I feel like in a 1v1 situation Jordan’s cooking Wilt. I think wilt was the first dominant player in an era where people weren’t athletic. So because of that people think he’s better than he actually was.
@@saucegodnas7318imagine a really athletic shaq who could run fast jump high and could actually shoot 3s(minus the fat). Thats basically wilt in a nutshell.
