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Could you make a Hamburger in Ancient Rome? DOCUMENTARY 

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Would it be possible to make a hamburger in ancient Rome? We seek find out using only ingredients from the time (with help from Max Miller of Tasting History) Check out Wondrium and start your free trial today! wondrium.com/Invicta
This history documentary seeks to recreate the 4 main components of a Hamburger: The Buns, the Patty, the Toppings and the Condiments.
We begin with the buns be exploring the sorts of breads which were used by the Romans. We sift through many kinds in search of one which matches our criteria of a hamburger bun with a light bread and sesame seeds. Next we turn to the making of a beef patty by looking at the meat industry of the period. We then explore the availability of toppings like onions, lettuce, cucumbers, bacon, cheese and more. Finally we conclude by seeing what kinds of condiments one might find in ancient Rome. Along the way we are joined by Max Miller from tasting history who provides awesome insight on the cooking process. Ultimately I think we come away with a quite tasty and authentic ancient hamburger recipe that could fit right in with ancient Rome.
Stay tuned for more How They Did It episodes on Roman cooking and daily life in the past. Be sure to also check out our friend Max Miller: / tastinghistory
Credits:
Research: Chris Das Neves
Script: Chris Das Neves
Narration: Invicta
Artwork: Beverly Johnson
Editing: Penta Limited
Music: Dreamnote
Bibliography and Suggested Works
The Loaded Table by Emily Gowers
Eating and Drinking in Roman Britain by H. E. M. Cool
A Companion to Food in the Ancient World eds. John Wilkins and Robin Nadeau
The World of Pompeii eds. John Dobbins and Pedar Foss
Daily Life in the Roman City by Gregory Aldrete
Shopping in Ancient Rome: The Retail Trade in the Late Republic by Claire Holleran
City: A Guidebook for the Urban Age by PD Smith.
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@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 2 года назад
Big thanks to Max from Tasting History for joining us once again! Check out our last video together on Roman Fast Food restaurants: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v5Qz00eUF5Q.html
@dukesilver702
@dukesilver702 2 года назад
"Could you make a Hamburger in Ancient Rome?" is the fundamental question that scholars have always been afraid to ask.
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy 2 года назад
Eggs and chopped-meat equal a meatloaf, not a burger.
@stickthesecond5085
@stickthesecond5085 2 года назад
HAMBURGIR
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 2 года назад
No thanks at all to "How to Make Everything" for making the original video this morning?
@TannerSwizel
@TannerSwizel 2 года назад
@@MajorJakas An odd coincidence, sure, but Invicta made this video with custom graphics, a sponsor to sign off on it, and it had a collaboration. You can't just smack together a video like this in 8 hours. Also, Invicta has been on the topic of Roman fast food ever since a fast food stand in Pompeii was unearthed, this is simply a follow up from that.
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames 2 года назад
"I have tried the most fascinating meal today. It is said to be a recipe for ground beef and cheese invented by a barbarian from north of Hadrian's Wall who goes by the name of Macdonald...."
@Alizudo
@Alizudo 2 года назад
It always makes me laugh when I remember that McDonald is a Scottish name. It seems so out of place!
@rahowherox1177
@rahowherox1177 2 года назад
@@Alizudo well the don part is latin.
@andryuu_2000
@andryuu_2000 2 года назад
@@rahowherox1177 yeah Donaldo is a medieval Italian name
@BrewPackBuck12
@BrewPackBuck12 2 года назад
Ronald Mcdonald
@thabomuso6254
@thabomuso6254 2 года назад
McDonalds didn't invent the hamburger though. He was great of industrializing food preparation and serving. On the other hand I find McDonald hamburgers untasty. I buy food there when I am in great hurry.
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory 2 года назад
Thank you again for having me on!
@MyHentaiGirl
@MyHentaiGirl 2 года назад
Hahaha glad you are popping up left and right !
@hndrwn
@hndrwn 2 года назад
Someday, I really hope you will open a historic restaurant. Let them eat history =D
@ImAnEmergency
@ImAnEmergency 2 года назад
THE RISE OF MAX
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory 2 года назад
@@hndrwn this sounds like a lot of work. Can I just maitre d’ and ask people how their meal is? 🤣
@jackcr3937
@jackcr3937 2 года назад
@@TastingHistory Hey Max! Is the video of you making the patties going to be released on your channel soon? Or have I missed it and it’s up already?
@carlramirez6339
@carlramirez6339 2 года назад
IMO, it wouldn't be too hard to make a Fillet-o-Fish in Ancient Rome either. Ancient Rome already had bread, fish, frying techniques, cheese and tzatziki.
@boujeecaveman3103
@boujeecaveman3103 2 года назад
Ancient McDonald’s Confirmed
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 2 года назад
Tzatziki absolutely is not tartar sauce. Nobody in their right mind eats tartar sauce by spoonful. I can attest to doing so with tzatziki
@Deridus
@Deridus 2 года назад
@@tbishop4961 ... I am glad I am not alone in this.
@KentuckyFriedChildren
@KentuckyFriedChildren 2 года назад
@@tbishop4961 Tzatziki gang
@SnozBerryQueen
@SnozBerryQueen 2 года назад
@@KentuckyFriedChildren gang gang. That shits good on EVERYTHING!
@meemeleem
@meemeleem 2 года назад
caesar’s grill would probably get you arrested for defamation, although “fortune flavors the bold” is legendary
@quetzadrake
@quetzadrake 2 года назад
"A true Roman hamburger" Well first you're going to need some true Roman bread for true Romans.
@Th3Nigma
@Th3Nigma 2 года назад
Made in a mass kiln from the Roman government dole.
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory 2 года назад
From the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers perhaps?
@malleableconcrete
@malleableconcrete 2 года назад
I think you mean trve Roman bread for trve Romans
@pipebomber04
@pipebomber04 2 года назад
Only the best from the miller guild
@einsjam
@einsjam 2 года назад
I see what you did there 😊😂😊😂😊😊
@jacobcantrell82
@jacobcantrell82 2 года назад
Now I want some Japanese light novel author to make a book about some chef being isekaied back to Ancient Rome and setting up a hamburger joint.
@westrim
@westrim 2 года назад
There is at least one restaurant isekai, structured so that there are doors in a fantasy world/s that all lead to a restaurant in Japan (where most of the foods are western, if sometimes filtered through Japanese culture, like Hamburg steak). It's called Restaurant to Another World.
@Knoloaify
@Knoloaify 2 года назад
It's not that, but there is Thermae Romae. Which is about a Roman architect being randomly iskai'd to Japan and thus discovering contemporary Japanese bath culture and implementing some of its elements into Roman baths whenever he's transported back to his world. It's quite funny.
@jacobcantrell82
@jacobcantrell82 2 года назад
@@Knoloaify Yeah Thermae is pretty good. Another great manga set in Rome is Ad Astra which covers the Second Punic War.
@wills.e.e8014
@wills.e.e8014 2 года назад
Izakaya Nobu anyone?
@amey_pathak
@amey_pathak 2 года назад
There's one manga called "Nobunaga no Chef' where a modern day chef gets isekai'd into oda nobunaga's time period and becomes his chef. Pretty good read.
@meilinchan7314
@meilinchan7314 2 года назад
The Spanish - especially the Catalans - claim that the Romans DID have a form of "mayo" - look at aïoli. They claim that it was Nero who invented it.
@andryuu_2000
@andryuu_2000 2 года назад
That's not invented by Nero. It's much older, and it's just a garlic mayo sauce, used in all western Mediterranean shores (Liguria and Catalunya mainly)
@solwen
@solwen 2 года назад
The ingredients for mayo have always been very cheap and common in Europe and the Middle East. There is no reason they did not figure out the recipe millenia ago.
@Alguien644
@Alguien644 Месяц назад
Nah thats not mayo, I'm spanish and yeah it kind of has a bit of similar flavour, but alioli isnt too similar
@parallelcircuit
@parallelcircuit 2 года назад
Since so much of what we now see as "Italian" food has New World ingredients, I think it would be interesting to take a look at how close you could get to a few staples like Spaghetti and Meatballs or Lasagna on the streets of the Mayan Empire.
@20firebird
@20firebird 2 года назад
see, that makes ME wonder how well you could make them in italy before europeans found the new world...
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn 2 года назад
Ok now you got me wondering if you can make pasta with corn flour Edit: YOU CAN
@octaviogutierrez9158
@octaviogutierrez9158 2 года назад
Mayans, Aztecs and Incas created and ate first a lot of global modern meals like Tomatoes, Corn, turkey meat, Potatoes, beans, Chili peppers, Pumpkins ,Chocolate, Tacos, Popcorn, guacamole or Pulque at the same time when they built their stone pyramids and cities.
@Yingyanglord1
@Yingyanglord1 2 года назад
@@ArturoLopez-ly2pnAlso instead of marnara there other cheese and fish based sauces
@gertvanderstraaten6352
@gertvanderstraaten6352 2 года назад
@@octaviogutierrez9158 There are beans in Eurasia, just different one. But it's still an impressive list.
@bigbadseed7665
@bigbadseed7665 2 года назад
"A street preacher in a backwater town of a distant province even made a parable about mustard seeds." Gee, I wonder who that could be?
@ryanbrown4053
@ryanbrown4053 2 года назад
Oh man can't believe I didn't catch that at first lol. Repping my man JC
@SM-zl4zd
@SM-zl4zd 2 года назад
"Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild idea, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was…I forget. But the point is…I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car."
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 года назад
that's just unfair. this parable reveals yeshua's hindu lehre. of course its a mystery lol. he was just some guy who thought EVERYONE is god right, and wrong, and so here we are.
@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822
@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822 2 года назад
@@QuizmasterLaw that’s nowhere near what he taught
@pjthehomelessmage
@pjthehomelessmage 2 года назад
@@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822 name checks out. 👍
@Luciferkragoth
@Luciferkragoth 2 года назад
>ancient romans thought butter was to be enjoyed only by barbarian peoples. My inner harlaus is screaming.
@Thirdperson820
@Thirdperson820 2 года назад
We're at war with four other nations. High time to go on a feast.😂
@karl-heinzgrabowski3022
@karl-heinzgrabowski3022 2 года назад
mfw butter is still the most important part of a sandwich in Germany
@mixermaster10
@mixermaster10 2 года назад
@@karl-heinzgrabowski3022 Same here in Estonia. I can't understand how people eat sandwiches without butter, I've seen so many people do that in US and it boggles my mind... like isn't it dry af otherwise
@thecheekychinaman6713
@thecheekychinaman6713 2 года назад
Romans weren't butterlords
@petrmaly9087
@petrmaly9087 2 года назад
Screaming "BARBARBARBAR"?
@chrismoreno7181
@chrismoreno7181 2 года назад
A guy named Magnum fumus in caesars chariot-thru: "I'll have two number IX's, a number IX large, a number VI with extra garum, a number VII, a two number XLV's, one with caseus, and a large posca".
@Jamhael1
@Jamhael1 Год назад
Sejanus: "Make it two posca."
@DragonballBlack
@DragonballBlack 2 года назад
Love Tasting History. Y’all should collab more :)
@Carnomus
@Carnomus 2 года назад
Blackscape wyd here
@ekoeko6994
@ekoeko6994 2 года назад
What's up checkmark
@chancethewrapper3557
@chancethewrapper3557 2 года назад
Knew you liked history
@evansenju5986
@evansenju5986 2 года назад
I wasn't expecting you to be here....
@joaqincastro5613
@joaqincastro5613 2 года назад
Let's call this burger Bigus Macus
@Deridus
@Deridus 2 года назад
Yeah, Burger Rex just doesn't seem... Roman enough.
@OverseerMoti
@OverseerMoti 2 года назад
Magnus Macus?
@TRG29338
@TRG29338 2 года назад
I have a good friend in Rome named Bigus Macus...
@Deridus
@Deridus 2 года назад
@@TRG29338 He has a wife, you know. Incontinentia... Incontinentia Taco.
@cpob2013
@cpob2013 2 года назад
Vopper
@marcello7781
@marcello7781 2 года назад
Burger Emperor, soon in every major city's forum.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 2 года назад
Burgures rex
@paw0960
@paw0960 2 года назад
@@Tareltonlives burger sex 😰
@joebidengaming5525
@joebidengaming5525 2 года назад
@@paw0960 😳
@Sleepy_Cabbage
@Sleepy_Cabbage 2 года назад
"the burgers are better at the roman empire"
@emmaphant02
@emmaphant02 2 года назад
15:54 "Mustard was so common, that a street preacher in a back water town of a distant province even made a parable about the mustard seeds, that we still know of today" - he's is talking about Jesus right?
@andryuu_2000
@andryuu_2000 2 года назад
Yep
@martytu20
@martytu20 2 года назад
“What good comes out of Nazareth?”
@glasscardproductions4736
@glasscardproductions4736 2 года назад
@@martytu20, philosophers, apparently.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
Took me a few to realize that too.
@kork3519
@kork3519 2 года назад
@@martytu20 mustard
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 2 года назад
German competition: Teutoburger. "Quintililius Varus, give me back my legumes!" Ps: Blessed are the cheesemakers.
@MrHodoAstartes
@MrHodoAstartes 2 года назад
Hum. What might go into a Teutoburger? I guess rye bread, as was the way of the tribes. Berries from the thick and dark forests, stewed into a sauce running red as the blood of three legions. Patties from wild boar meat, fattened with the butter so beloved by these barbarii. Decorated with gold flakes cut from the wings of stolen eagles.
@plt927
@plt927 2 года назад
Since Hamburg already existed in Roman times, you could still call it a Hamburger :D
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 2 года назад
@@plt927 Well, yes but actually no. The name Hamburg (or back then, "Hammaburg") only started being used in the 8th century. The romans only mentioned a place which may or may not have been located in the same spot as modern day Hamburg. They called it Treva. Thus, the proper name for the meal might arguably be Trevanum.
@donttrustnoone3921
@donttrustnoone3921 2 года назад
Blessed too, are the Greeks.
@blythesaunders3124
@blythesaunders3124 2 года назад
Blessed are the meek.
@Choppytehbear1337
@Choppytehbear1337 2 года назад
This channel has come so far from Total War battles.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 2 года назад
I do miss making battles videos but find the ability to cover subjects beyond military history to be highly liberating
@TheXarus
@TheXarus 2 года назад
@@InvictaHistory I think the culture and the everyday man type of videos are so much more interesting and useful for creating a mental image of Ancient Rome. Everyone does battles but your stuff is the best because you show us stuff no one else does
@jamesmichael5
@jamesmichael5 2 года назад
Wait this channel has battle vids..how did I miss that🤣🤣
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian 2 года назад
@@InvictaHistory There are so many channels that do military history, please stick to your more diverse approach! Military history might be beloved of pop history, but it's only a tiny part of the whole field. Modern historiography has found other things to study that are of much deeper importance to a society than the size of chainmail rings they used.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 года назад
i came for the "o god, what did we do, how do we stop that, what if it happens again" I DID NOT STAY FOR THE BURNT COWFLESH AND COWS MILK IS A GOD DAMNGED SIN
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 года назад
That was really intersting, but I'm disappointed that we did not see Max making this burger, I've really thought he would when we saw images of "patties" cooking XD
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory 2 года назад
Episode releases next Tuesday :)
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 года назад
@@TastingHistory Oh great :D
@williammunoz744
@williammunoz744 2 года назад
Max pulling through haha
@john98765333
@john98765333 2 года назад
Don't worry "How to make everything" Did a roman burger recently as well. lol
@yeoldedude7464
@yeoldedude7464 2 года назад
I hope he will make some "ketchup" sauce, and some sort of handmade mayo. Maybe cranberry/rapsberry sauce instead of ketchup?
@Null_Experis
@Null_Experis 2 года назад
The grape must sauce that Max talked about for the beef in caul fat could be mixed with vinegar and garum to make a passable ketchup substitute. It meets the flavor requirements of being salty, sour, and sweet.
@chriss780
@chriss780 2 года назад
try it you madman and tell us if its actually good lol, im curious
@magimon91834
@magimon91834 2 года назад
I really love how thouroughly max is integrating himself in the historical RU-vid community
@ericbozenhard2773
@ericbozenhard2773 2 года назад
As odd as it may sound, mixing garum and other spices in a burger might end up something like a worcestershire sauce flavor.... I would try it.
@ai6896
@ai6896 2 года назад
Worcestershire sauce tastes good in venison pattys I'm not sure about beef though
@ericbozenhard2773
@ericbozenhard2773 2 года назад
@@ai6896 I use it to flavor meat loaf, and it comes out nice. It would definitely depend on what way you wanted that beef to turn out though. Not for every recipe for sure.
@melody3741
@melody3741 2 года назад
That sounds fucking amazing.
@StonedWandererAZ
@StonedWandererAZ 2 года назад
@@ai6896 My dad puts it in our beef patties every so often and they come out tasting good.
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 2 года назад
@@ai6896 Its great in beef patties, once tried never again omitted ...
@UntoldHistoryAnimations
@UntoldHistoryAnimations 2 года назад
No wonder Diocletian became a cabbage farmer with all this hype about it
@Deridus
@Deridus 2 года назад
The origin of the screaming "My Cabbages!" Meme. Ave, Diocletian!
@kazemizu
@kazemizu 2 года назад
"My cabbages!!!!"
@alexandragamingronyno2275
@alexandragamingronyno2275 2 года назад
Ow, my cabbages!!!
@MegaTang1234
@MegaTang1234 2 года назад
7:19 Damn, even the Romans knew about the carcegenic properties of too much meat.
@iurilimaco2068
@iurilimaco2068 2 года назад
This has nice isekai vibes. Something like "That Time When I Reincarnated in Ancient Rome and Started a Burger Shop". It may be the past, but maybe it still counts as an Isekai, since the past is almost like another world.
@asurveillancecamera3392
@asurveillancecamera3392 2 года назад
What is isekai?
@222cristobal
@222cristobal 2 года назад
@@asurveillancecamera3392 Going to another world. Its an japanese term.
@juanjuri6127
@juanjuri6127 2 года назад
Try reading Therma Romae, it might be up your alley
@redoctane13
@redoctane13 2 года назад
@@asurveillancecamera3392 Literally "another world", a person ends up in another world/dimension/reality/time and then shenanigans happen, sometimes tragedy, sometimes comedy, other times both. Sometimes it's by some jerk god, others because of truck-kun, usually it's a one-way trip w/ some magical power/powers as a "lol sorry" apology from w/e being caused you to be there.
@machirim2805
@machirim2805 2 года назад
If this was set in the late Republic/early Imperial era, our protagonist would probably join forces with the Guild of Millers in making true roman hamburgers for true romans
@juandgm6171
@juandgm6171 2 года назад
Me waiting for the last part of avenging Varus Invicta: HAMBURGERS IN ROME?
@YataTheFifteenth
@YataTheFifteenth 2 года назад
Priorities amicus. Priorities.
@renkol123
@renkol123 2 года назад
GIVE ME BACK MY BURGERS!
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 года назад
Wait...there's a book from Roman times entirely about cabbage? I wonder if Diocletian read it when he started growing cabbages on his farm after retiring as emperor in 305.
@goosenuggets9693
@goosenuggets9693 2 года назад
I wouldn't be surprised.
@Sleepy_Cabbage
@Sleepy_Cabbage 2 года назад
Probably a personal favourite of his
@weed884
@weed884 2 года назад
11:11 you can hear him breaking up about the lack of tomatoes
@TNOBasedBatov
@TNOBasedBatov 2 года назад
Ah yes, answering questions nobody asked but everybody finds interesting
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 2 года назад
He saw the channel "How to Make Everything" put out this exact same video earlier this morning so he just ripped it off.
@JohnSmith-nh2te
@JohnSmith-nh2te 2 года назад
@@MajorJakas that doesn’t make any sense. So you’re saying he watched his video, then pumped out this script and art in less than a day?
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 2 года назад
@@JohnSmith-nh2te easy when you're just ripping off somebody else. I saw the other video this morning, then went and tore up and replaced an entire kitchen floor in about the same time. Don't even sit there and pretend as though this has a huge production value. ALL of the slides for this video could be made in seconds, especially for experienced creators.
@redrevise4668
@redrevise4668 2 года назад
​@@MajorJakas Then we shall praised Invicta for the speed of their uploads.
@earthknight60
@earthknight60 2 года назад
Answering a question we already know the answer to and even have recipes detailing: museumcrush.org/the-1500-year-old-recipe-that-shows-how-romans-invented-the-beef-burger/
@anthonybird546
@anthonybird546 2 года назад
THIS is what the internet was invented for. Answering the BIG questions!!!!
@matesafranka6110
@matesafranka6110 2 года назад
You might say this is a... whopper... of a question
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 2 года назад
"Mustard was so common that a street preacher in a backwater town made reference to it's seeds that we still know today" man that took a minute but then my laughter startled my neighbour
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 2 года назад
"we invited Max Miller from tasting history for this one" You now have my full and undivided attention. I love it when the history channels that I like are working together. Also, good burger I think
@whynot-tomorrow_1945
@whynot-tomorrow_1945 2 года назад
* steps out of time portal into a Roman street * "Boy do I have a business proposition for you!"
@VOTE_REFORM_UK
@VOTE_REFORM_UK 2 года назад
You mean: “Puerum enim habeo negoti propositionis pro vobis est”
@Maydaypayday7
@Maydaypayday7 2 года назад
@@VOTE_REFORM_UK unless it’s 476 Rome
@ampeyro
@ampeyro 2 года назад
"Bread light enough to float in water"... I don't think I've ever seen a bread that sinks. Even including all those weird artisanal brown bricks with random seeds.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 2 года назад
Then you haven't encountered flour spiked with powdered chalk or limestone...
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 года назад
@@SonsOfLorgar Ah yes, the White Cliffs of Dover Burger.
@paulohagan3309
@paulohagan3309 2 года назад
@@SonsOfLorgar Just shows you the delicacies we've missed since the introduction of food standards and safety ....
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 2 года назад
Just goes to show you how light and fluffy modern baked goods are that it was something to take note of.
@plt927
@plt927 2 года назад
My first baking attempts wouldn't float 😂 German Pumpernickel would also sink
@itshistorysenpai2895
@itshistorysenpai2895 2 года назад
If Invicta has time travel machine, he would be a very successful businessman in history
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva Год назад
if we could back-travel with the knowledge of today... we would become Gazillionares... which is why i think people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are time travelers
@Alkis05
@Alkis05 2 года назад
"What do you say about making money on banking?" "What do you say about making money on murder?" Bankers. Getting shit for the last 2000 years. XD
@nunoalvarespereira87
@nunoalvarespereira87 2 года назад
Based
@menschman1464
@menschman1464 2 года назад
The grillers guild, True Roman hamburgers for true romans.
@razormc954
@razormc954 2 года назад
Do Pulled Pork.. As pork was incredibly common in Rome, you wouldn't disrupt the timeline
@thenoble1
@thenoble1 2 года назад
I am screaming at the "you need eggs to keep a burger together" line. Slaps of someone who has never made a burger in their life.
@AlienFromBeyond
@AlienFromBeyond 2 года назад
Same, absolutely horrible and turned me off from the video and channel quickly quite frankly.
@spaceface124
@spaceface124 2 года назад
@@AlienFromBeyond Then unfortunately you missed the note around 10:23 which acknowledges that the Romans themselves didn't use eggs as a binder. They preferred breadcrumbs.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 года назад
@@spaceface124 you don't need either.
@Trieh
@Trieh 2 года назад
Y'all burger purists need to touch grass, it ain't that deep.
@user-ze7sj4qy6q
@user-ze7sj4qy6q 2 года назад
i was looking for this comment lmfao. i mean i guess u Could put it in, i guess, but "have to" is pretty fucking strong lol
@bowmaster619letschug6
@bowmaster619letschug6 2 года назад
One recipe I personally would like to see recreated in a Roman fashion would be Bao or pork buns similar to those in the Pixar Animation of the same name. It's one of my personal favorite recipes and I feel like the Romans would have easily had most if not all of the ingredients necessary for that
@Anglomachian
@Anglomachian 2 года назад
Please tell me Cato’s shop sold something called the Salted Porcius.
@OverseerMoti
@OverseerMoti 2 года назад
Wasn't it Salted Sus? (This is *not* a ref to a "certain game")
@HiHi-lh3ps
@HiHi-lh3ps 2 года назад
@@OverseerMoti when the imposter is crucified by Tit *sus* for overusing a meme
@l.pietrobon3925
@l.pietrobon3925 2 года назад
@@OverseerMoti AMONGST
@dazednotconfused1503
@dazednotconfused1503 2 года назад
Seeing max again put a smile on my face. Such a good guy
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory 2 года назад
Awwww, you're makin' me blush.
@PauaP
@PauaP 2 года назад
Oh shiz fam, max just replied. Sweeeet.
@xrayABooD
@xrayABooD 2 года назад
ahh yes, another dose of “a questions i never asked but i want to know their answers”
@conorcarolan6238
@conorcarolan6238 2 года назад
Hey, idk where you've heard that but you DO NOT put eggs in burger patties. That's what you put in a meatball. Love your channel btw
@Darryl_Francis
@Darryl_Francis 2 года назад
@@aidenc02 it's a very popular myth amongst food normies, a lot of people taint the patties with egg, breadcrumbs, onion, mustard (yes, I've experienced this), and add the seasonings into the mix before forming the patty - it's madness.
@mrrodgers0
@mrrodgers0 2 года назад
This is certainly true of a modern burger, but in this case, without refrigeration to help the fat keep its structural integrity during grinding and storage, egg mixed in and the caul fat wrap are probably necessary.
@Trieh
@Trieh 2 года назад
You know you can put whatever you want in a burger, right?
@conorcarolan6238
@conorcarolan6238 2 года назад
@@Trieh I mean, I'm a professional chef with a formal culinary training and over a decade of experience. You don't put egg in the meat. It changes the texture to that of a meatball. You can put whatever you want in a burger, true. But that doesn't mean you should. Burgers patties are just meat. Ideally, 75-80% lean beef. It doesn't need egg to hold it together. Just a hard sear and it'll be fine on its own. You then put whatever you want ON TOP.
@Trieh
@Trieh 2 года назад
@@conorcarolan6238 Nice degrees my dude, try mixing it up sometime, have fun with it.
@JustGrowingUp84
@JustGrowingUp84 2 года назад
Mate, I love these videos, about the lives of regular people. And food is such an important part of that! Even speculative videos like this are cool, since it's limited to the ingredients and techniques of the period.
@RikoJAmado
@RikoJAmado 2 года назад
You'll get the burger but it won't come with ketchup, tomatoes, or a side of Gaelic Fries.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 2 года назад
But we could have goat cheese
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 2 года назад
Mushrooms we could have those
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 2 года назад
At least no one mentioned "freedom fries" - the person who came up with that little gem is due a dose of rectal implement, hold the olive oil...
@RikoJAmado
@RikoJAmado 2 года назад
@@MrRourk I would love to taste the “Greatest of All Time” cheese! See if it lives up to its claim!
@RikoJAmado
@RikoJAmado 2 года назад
@@rosiehawtrey I know right? Eh he heh heh.....* quickly searches to delete that exact comment made in previous video about Fast Food in ancient Rome*
@michaeldean1934
@michaeldean1934 2 года назад
In research a few years ago I read about Roman street vendors with a variety of meat cuts from which the customer could choose which would be ground up. Also at this point nuts and other spices could be ground with it. This was made into a patty that would be cooked on a piece of slate with a fire under it. After being cooked, it would be put into a sliced piece of bread and wrapped in paper. I do not have the citation, however.
@Jacob562622
@Jacob562622 2 года назад
I'm really digging these cross over/collaboration episodes. Both you guys and Tasting history did a great job in both your videos. Thanks you both so much for the great content!
@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364
@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364 2 года назад
Me: waiting for the video on the conclusion of Germanicus campaigns against arminius **Invicta: Did Roman's have Hamburgers?**
@alexhurlbut
@alexhurlbut 2 года назад
They did had ketchup, it just wasn't tomato ketchup.
@torianholt2752
@torianholt2752 2 года назад
True...the original catsup/ketchup was made from mushrooms.
@sarkedev
@sarkedev 2 года назад
Catosup
@MegaTang1234
@MegaTang1234 2 года назад
Garum?
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 2 года назад
@@MegaTang1234 no. Go stand in the corner ;)
@NightBlado
@NightBlado 2 года назад
I came here to comment this, good job!
@nerner266
@nerner266 2 года назад
About the patty binding being made with bread crumbs and milk: we still do it like that in Spain, I'm sure other mediterranean countries do it as well. It's not that is not done like that today, it's just that you don't do it like that in the US. Same thing with the bun, we don't toast it in butter, neither oil generally. Rather we tend to like it plainly. Hope that helps
@traviswebb3532
@traviswebb3532 2 года назад
Now this is an amazing crossover episode. Love both these channels so much.
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2 года назад
I know this goes without saying but thank you so much for making these videos about every-day life. It’s a much more interesting topic than the endless discussions about military tactics and politics that most self-proclaimed history buffs engage in
@seronymus
@seronymus 2 года назад
Everyone should know history well, and it's a shame that the field is stereotyped and relegated to memorizing names and dates primarily of battles. It's far more important, crucial even, to understand cultures of the past in their wholesale, their saints and heroes, how they lived and worshiped and ate and died..sigh.
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2 года назад
@@seronymus Precisely. I don't sit here thinking about politics or wars every day. The thing that concerns me is being able to pay the bills and have fun with my friends and loved ones. I imagine the exact same thing was true of the past. I don't think the average Roman sat around discussing military strategy and the Roman Emperors constantly, he was probably also more concerned with being able to pay his rent and provide for his family.
@jusk8lp
@jusk8lp 2 года назад
"from a beautiful white loaf to grainy hard tack" My brain: *insert Max hard tack cutaway gag* XD
@NotMyGoogleID
@NotMyGoogleID 2 года назад
I honestly prefer these kind of "how they did it" everyday lives over wars and armies
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 2 года назад
"Burgers," hell! Based on this list of ingredients, I might have had better luck digging a barbecue pit and slowly cooking up some quasi-Texas-style brisket or pork: covered only in salt and pepper, with a vinegar-based dipping sauce at most. I just need to find the right kind of wood . . . and some way to wake myself up WAY early to start smoking!
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 2 года назад
Garum can be mixed with simmered vegetables and fruit and turned into barbecue sauce!
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames 2 года назад
It's so strange, I've been watching this channel for years, but I just found Max Miller a couple of weeks ago, and now he's here. I love when RU-vid sometimes reminds me how small the world can be.
@granddukethedan7029
@granddukethedan7029 2 года назад
Just you wait, Invicta is gonna create a fast food chain serving Roman food!
@jezusbloodie
@jezusbloodie 2 года назад
This is probably my favourite series on RU-vid now. I hope it delves deep into other periods and cultures, like knowing how and what all these individuals humans over the history of mankind ate feels like something special.. Kinda a peak into that transcending individual yet collective human experience
@intra9645
@intra9645 2 года назад
I normally don’t comment on videos, but I’ve really enjoyed the content this channel provides! Educational and intriguing content that helps me prepare for my time travel! Thanks!
@bonefetcherbrimley7740
@bonefetcherbrimley7740 2 года назад
Finally, someone asking THE REAL questions!
@georgecunningham9175
@georgecunningham9175 2 года назад
Finding well produced, clever and informative, along with speculative and inquisitive content such as this makes muddling through some of the trite and self-aggrandizing drivel that clutters RU-vid worthwhile. I already know how to match my lip colour with my well organized DIY bohemian spa bathroom, so finding something that entices thought, engenders hypothesis, and adds to my historical knowledge is just soooo satisfying. Thank you! PS I should have mentioned that in addition to all of the above this channel is also just plain old FUN and darned entertaining!
@Krebscast
@Krebscast 2 года назад
It's awesome that you collaborated with Max again. Love both your channels 💜
@Angelfeather100
@Angelfeather100 2 года назад
Yes, thoroughly enjoyed it! Very interesting, looking forward to the next post!
@sststr
@sststr 2 года назад
There's a condiment called "mushroom ketchup", which is similar to tomato ketchup, but uses mushrooms in place of tomatoes. They wouldn't have been making it 2000 years ago, but there's no reason they couldn't have, in terms of ingredients and preparation technique, just nobody thought of it.
@dashofsalt4359
@dashofsalt4359 2 года назад
I believe strawberry was used after that, which has been driving me nuts since I found out..
@MrHodoAstartes
@MrHodoAstartes 2 года назад
Well, the whole ketchup idea comes from Indonesian soy sauce, so calling it that goes right out the window. But a savory mushroom sauce of some description seems likely to have existed. Maybe like a relish with garum.
@LeoStaley
@LeoStaley 2 года назад
I didn't like how he concluded against using mushrooms. There may not have been quality control, but if you sell mushrooms, your life (economically and physically) depends on you being able to discern between types of mushrooms. Furthermore, the Mediterranean is home to fewer dangerous mushroom species than America is, and they tend to be less dangerous.
@redoctane13
@redoctane13 2 года назад
@@dashofsalt4359 o_o
@qdaniele97
@qdaniele97 Год назад
@@LeoStaley Moreover, even today the vast majority of mushrooms consumed in europe (and certainly the most prised ones) are naturally grown and hand picked from forests (good luck trying to grow "porcini" in an artificial controlled environiment).
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 2 года назад
The mayo (aeoli!) can be as simple as whole eggs, oil, salt and vinegar, with some elbow grease. I love a burger with it.
@gerard8203
@gerard8203 2 года назад
Aioli is with garlic too
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 2 года назад
@@gerard8203 Can be. It's a fancy name for mayo with no real distinction (I did the research on it a few years back).
@gerard8203
@gerard8203 2 года назад
@@jansenart0 no offense. It literally means "garlic and oil" in catalan "all" and "oli". Aioli (or Alloli) without garlic is not aioli
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 2 года назад
@@gerard8203 The origin of the word is disputed.
@gerard8203
@gerard8203 2 года назад
@@jansenart0 yes the origin of mayonnaise is disputed. But "aioli" is what it means and that's simply garlic and oil. There's no way to deny that, you just can't
@OptimusPater87
@OptimusPater87 2 года назад
Yesss another collaboration between Invicta and Tasting History, awesome stuff guys!
@vincentvassallo5727
@vincentvassallo5727 2 года назад
Love seeing videos like these where the animation rises to the level of the fantastic narration. Keep up the good work!
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 2 года назад
You do not need eggs (or anything but beef and salt) to make a good burger. Source: I make excellent burgers.
@Direxit
@Direxit 2 года назад
Yes. Also grinding meat in a mortar and pestle would destroy the texture, it would be better to cut it fine with a knife like Steak Tartare and then work it by hand a little until it binds.
@TommyGuy1111
@TommyGuy1111 2 года назад
@The Big Kiwi Yeah, that's the point. It stops being tender and becomes chewy. At that point you're not making a burger, you're making sausage.
@anguishedcarpet
@anguishedcarpet 2 года назад
@@Direxit just because some beef ground more than you prefer doing it it at home, it doesn't immediately cease being hamburger lmfao
@e_da_g2161
@e_da_g2161 2 года назад
actually, only beef salt does something with the proteins and makes the meat less tender
@Darryl_Francis
@Darryl_Francis 2 года назад
Truth!
@the_bohemian4536
@the_bohemian4536 2 года назад
Finally asking the real questions.
@chenoaholdstock3507
@chenoaholdstock3507 2 года назад
Max is back! Woo hoo! You two teaming up is the BEST
@HistoryOfRevolutions
@HistoryOfRevolutions 2 года назад
"I wonder at those who think about their body's food, but do not think about their soul's food. They keep away disturbing food from their belly, but fill up their hearts with destructive subjects.“ - Hasan ibn Ali
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 года назад
that's unfair. everyone must eat. not everyone even has the chance to think about anything other than that. see 1.
@vertigq5126
@vertigq5126 2 года назад
@@QuizmasterLaw But “man cannot love on bread alone.” God gives us purpose in life, if your only purpose was to toil away for food each day, why not just give up and die? Everyone must search their hearts and know the truth: Christ is our salvation, the only way to God our Creator!
@404Dannyboy
@404Dannyboy 2 года назад
@@vertigq5126 If your only purpose in life is a likely fictive and certainly unproven sky daddy then that is a problem. Life has plenty of meaning without religious faith.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 2 года назад
@@vertigq5126 you need a psychiatrist...
@piotrgrzelak2613
@piotrgrzelak2613 2 года назад
@@SonsOfLorgar why would he need a fraud specializing in selling drugs
@BaltoSaber
@BaltoSaber 2 года назад
I just need to say that the origins of Mayonaise are spanish and not french, specifically its from an island in the Balearics called Mahón (thats where the name comes from)
@solwen
@solwen 2 года назад
The name mayonnaise comes from "moyeunnaise" ("moyeu" being the old French word for "egg yolk"). But the ingredients being so common, i'm sure it was, like beer, discovered independently by many people in the world.
@tdotjazzberryram61
@tdotjazzberryram61 2 года назад
Cool history idea, cool collaboration!! Please continue as a series guys !
@lucaschang689
@lucaschang689 2 года назад
Another Invicta and Max Miller crossover video? AWESOME! I'm really enjoying these as the food/culture feels (and tastes) much more real, that our ancient ancestors are actually closer than we think we they were!
@jasepoag8930
@jasepoag8930 2 года назад
Is this a collab with HTME, or just a REALLY strange coincidence?
@harrisondimm7384
@harrisondimm7384 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing lol
@Callmecel
@Callmecel 2 года назад
Strange coincidence - great minds just think alike sometimes!
@jasepoag8930
@jasepoag8930 2 года назад
@@Callmecel funny, I thought it was some kind of "let's all make Roman burgers collab" for historical themed channels.
@Callmecel
@Callmecel 2 года назад
@@jasepoag8930 That woulda been neat!
@Raptorclaw62
@Raptorclaw62 2 года назад
It's just burger day today 😎🍔
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 года назад
Calling them Hamburgers wouldn’t be ITTC compliant.
@grahamparks1645
@grahamparks1645 2 года назад
Well that’s for our usage trade secret & all I’m sure a proper Roman name can be created for them
@grahamparks1645
@grahamparks1645 2 года назад
How about cibum disco panis testudo (cd testudo for short) then one day testudo becomes the slang for a round sandwich on a round bun much like the Mexican torts sandwiches or carni pani testudi (cpt) or disco testudo (dt)
@jcdentongaming1304
@jcdentongaming1304 2 года назад
@@grahamparks1645 "panis"
@robomonkey1018
@robomonkey1018 2 года назад
Love the direction this channel is taking
@8300dvo
@8300dvo 2 года назад
Okay new fav channel found. Love this so much!
@blitzkrieg2928
@blitzkrieg2928 2 года назад
The next video on making a Roman Pizza ( aside from the ancient focaccia :3 )
@FlappyOW
@FlappyOW 2 года назад
Strangely close to HTME's Ancient hamburger video released just a few hours ago, weird coincidence.
@Th3Nigma
@Th3Nigma 2 года назад
Today's lesson is EAT MORE BURGERS. Jk.... unless?
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 года назад
Invicta is pioneering the ancient fast food craze. :D
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 года назад
I'm watching this as I'm eating some McDonald's I had delivered at 3 AM. Let's see the Romans pull THAT one off! ...I wonder if the Internet's influenced my food choices tonight...
@esper6119
@esper6119 2 года назад
The happy Romans eating happy lil Roman cheeseburgers at the end is so wholesome it makes me hapy,
@jasN86
@jasN86 2 года назад
I'm here because of Max!!!! Also, great video Invicta :) I thoroughly enjoyed it!
@yourdadsotherfamily3530
@yourdadsotherfamily3530 2 года назад
Lmaooooo I literally got a bunch of ground beef yesterday night, then prepped coals for tonight this morning when I got up before work. I got home and checked my upload feed and you uploaded a burger video great timing but I forgot my Garum xD
@raul12300
@raul12300 2 года назад
i love this type of content please make a series of videos like this, would really like to see one about pizza, even if I know it would be a sad no tomato sauce pizza.
@locked01
@locked01 2 года назад
Cool, I had lots of fun watching this. Good job
@brettd2308
@brettd2308 2 года назад
Love seeing more Max Miller!
@nakedapprentice
@nakedapprentice 2 года назад
HTME released a video on making a Roman hamburger a few hours earlier 😂
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 2 года назад
Many hours earlier. Enough time passed today that I find it suspicious. Looks like a blatant ripoff.
@nakedapprentice
@nakedapprentice 2 года назад
@@MajorJakas 7 hours! Hardly enough time to research and produce a video.
@Tiberon098
@Tiberon098 2 года назад
@@MajorJakas Can I ask: Do you scour RU-vid looking for “ripped off” videos?
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 2 года назад
@@AbhiGuntaka yes, when I was in school we used to do this stuff all the time. I know exactly how long it can take, especially with a cheat-sheet.
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 2 года назад
@@nakedapprentice no research at all when you just rip off somebody else. Listen to yourself.
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
Now *this* actually asks real Questions!
@Ve55el
@Ve55el 2 года назад
!!!!! I just found this channel! Thank you!!!! ...just to let you know, I subbed within 10 seconds. Quality is instantly recognizable.Thank you for the hard work, amazing research and friendly presentation. I'm aware of how hard it is to run a channel.
@skidelrymar
@skidelrymar 2 года назад
very happy to see Max in this video. i'm a huge fan
@oneproudbrowncoat
@oneproudbrowncoat 2 года назад
I should think that the Philly Cheesesteak could easily be made in Rome.
@EricVulgaris
@EricVulgaris 2 года назад
No wiz tho.
@donnytrumptastic7815
@donnytrumptastic7815 2 года назад
Ridiculously easy
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 2 года назад
They weren't big into melting cheese but sure. There were even a lot of Philadelphias
@johngodfreymalig2328
@johngodfreymalig2328 2 года назад
Ah, yes. Step aside, epic historical battles and legendary political figures! The true questions we must ask lie not in you, but in whether we can make a Whopper in the times of antiquity! All shall see the might of the Big Mac, tremble in awe at the magnificence of the Quarter Pounder, and if their gods shall permit them the honor, taste the heavenly double-meat with bacon burger special!
@douglasmacquarrie5002
@douglasmacquarrie5002 2 года назад
Love the cross over this was awesome I hope to see more like this 🤘
@malnutritionboy
@malnutritionboy 2 года назад
Brother, I remember a time when you were playing Total war and you still had that halo name. Glad to see you mature so much and i'm glad your channel has changed in a way that it's still refreshing and interesting to me still even as i grew out of my teenage years
@BlueBeetle1939
@BlueBeetle1939 2 года назад
Thank so much ever since I saw a kid in king Arthur's court all I've ever wanted was to go bavk in time and open up the first McCaesar's!
@dhgelling
@dhgelling 2 года назад
Fun fact: In the east of Spain, caul fat is still used to wrap minced meat in local traditional dishes, like the figatell in València
@glenwest1911
@glenwest1911 2 года назад
Fantastic video and topic!!
@cynthiablackthorn
@cynthiablackthorn Год назад
This needs a series
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky 2 года назад
As long as it has normal or flatbread instead of those horrible buns I'm fine. It may even be soaked with garum PS Fun fact: first ketchup and direct ancestor to ketchup (and weshesheshe sauce) was something very similar to garum. With no tomatoes!
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky 2 года назад
@Fat Freddy's Cat aye that was it I think. Rotten fish and mushroom and vinegran and mushroom varieties, idk which one was first
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