COURTROOM INSIDER | Lori Vallow juror #4 speaks out 

Very well said. I completely agree

I watched some random tv reporter interview Larry yesterday after that drama went down (he was so upset), and this lady totally sensationalized it for effect and then asked him to respond and I wanted to smack her so hard! No sensitivity for the man who looked like he was about to cry. Just wanted to get her big moment 🙄. So now I’m back here with Nate! 🙏

"...so many would be interrupting her and sensationalizing..." Sounds like Vinnie Politan.

I'm in NC and have followed Nate from day one. I believe he is so amazing and popular because he's not trying to be a slick superstar. He's just trying to spotlight the truth. He is incredibly good at his job and I am so glad he was there for this one. Imagine if he had not been.

@@Rescuemom3 yes indeed.

A wonderful insight. An advertisement for how to be a good citizen.

Love how she said she'd want this jury if she was a defendant.

YES!!!

And humility

I shed tears at that time of the interview too! So sad…

Me too.

Haha I noticed the doggy, too. So cute!

I know and so respectful. If that was mine she would be all over Nate!😂

German Shorthaired Pointers are very cute and very active. Agree, he did add to this interview

Thank you both for doing this interview ❤️🫣🎉

@@Figgatella. My boxer would be all over him and constantly looking for attention 😂 You could see at times he thought about going over but chose to turn away, whilst staying close by (just in case)!!

That’s so true. The trauma jurors endure is horrible,

YES!!

same

Unless you're guilty

Yes!

yes, (but he needs antibiotics) ❤

💯

I only saw Nate interview one other male juror. Did I miss something, as you're saying, plural, interviews/men?

You must have missed the first juror interviewed soon after Lori's verdict.

@@louesparza8003 No. That's actually the only interview I had ever seen. I was asking about what other males Larry in the original post is referring to, cuz I haven't seen any others that were interviewed.

There is one other interview, and this one. Never watched anyone else. I am curious if I missed, and how could I?

@loveforeignaccents The other juror was that Tom Evans guy who wrote the book. He's different than the young guy he interviewed right after the trial was over.

In the recording with Melanie Boudreaux, she talked about missing her kid and Lori said something about how that was demons making MB feel that way. Lori probably would have used the same reasoning if she ever felt a twinge about Tylee or JJ. I honestly think she's insane, like needs-a-lobotomy-and-a-straight-jacket insane. She's probably still gathering followers in prison, waiting for a tornado to break her out of prison.

Chad, absolutely not. Lori, probably not for real, but small chance.

The only tears they shed we're for themselves when they were caught in all my 52yrs on this earth I never believed such despicable evil people could exist

I don't care about Chad. How he feels about kids he barely knew and treated like garbage, he can just go to hell. But Lori treating her own children that way?! The girl that grew inside her, and the NICU boy she rescued and put into a home?! Parenthood is sacred in both those forms, and it breaks me to think she is not devastated by what she did.

@@missmeow-eq9uragree

That was my thought too! Let's hope! Especially with the raccoon text to tie him to his home when Alex was there.

Yes, I don't think Alex and Lori were mucking about in Chad's backyard burying bodies without at least Chad knowing about it and of course we know he played a bigger role than just knowing.

@@lisas8244 I can picture Chad standing next to Alex giving him instructions. God told me we have to do this Jesus wants us to tape JJ up to keep the zombie in, that sort of thing. Alex was doing the dirty work and Chad was being the supreme being and overseeing and ordering it all. I bet he felt as high as a kite on adrenaline and loved giving his orders. That could be why there is no Chad DNA on the bodies. A supreme being doesn’t get his hands dirty. As others have suggested I’m sure he also wore gloves. He didn’t care if Alex took the fall but there was no way he was going to. Chad was the important one who saw behind the veil, Alex was just the lackey who would do whatever Chad told him without question.

@@audrieking7109yes! AND how he acted when they found JJ 😢

Limbs but no raccoon😢

Agree. They need to change what it's called. Death Row with very slim chance of death.

@@SHAWNEESKYWALKERyep. Idaho hasn’t carried out. DP sentence since 2011 and there are perps sitting there for over 25 years still. That’s ridiculous.

I agree with everything you said, and yes Nate is by far my favorite journalist and I love Clarion North Carolina. I just love watching him, he has so much integrity and it really shows.

Thank you, Laura!

It was a great interview, and I want to say thank you to Laura for sitting down and doing this for us. I've always wanted to be on a jury, but I think it's because I'm a true crime buff. I always wonder what is going on in someone's mind that makes them do whatever crime in a show I'm watching. For example, in this case, what is wrong with these people? How could Lori allow her own flesh and blood to die in such a horrific way? How could she allow JJ to die because, well, I can't even think why, there are no reasons other than she didn't want her children anymore. Was this Chad's idea, and why weren't his children even considered dark? Maybe because they believed him so much, I don't know and probably never will understand them. I saw a local news channel doing the news about this case. Chad's daughter Emma pulls up and is making faces as the reporter is doing her thing, and I'm like, WTF? Does she think this is a joke? Even if she really believes Chad was set up, 2 children were buried in the backyard. Like that is NO joke! That is not something to be taken lightly. Then her own mother was suffocated, and who did it? Was it Chad or both Chad and Garth? Or did Alex sneak over and do it? Answers we will never have! I don't understand why this had to happen, why Lori just couldn't have dropped JJ off to his grandparents and said, "I'm done, you raise him." Why she couldn't have sent Tylee to her brother and said, "I'm done, I want my freedom." I'm guessing she didn't want anyone to know she was unwilling to be a mother anymore. Those 2 children would feel abandoned. As a mother of 3 and grandmother of 9, I just do not understand their thinking.

They have councilors and therapy for the jurors, After its over

@@sarahdreher2159 Often not for the victim's however!

Same thought!

Unfortunately, in smaller communities with a smaller tax base, or states without large taxpayer rolls, services like these can be hard for them to underwrite or fund.

@@colleenuchiyama4916yes, it’s the same reason why there wasn’t court today or sometimes it ends early- small town, not enough resources, one judge to cover many cases.

That's what I was thinking. I was horrified when I heard that. They need to do something about it!

No money for the care of humans because people are anti-tax. The billionaires need to be taxed. They benefited from our labor. They need to be taxed.

Indeed!

Thanks Nate for interview with Laura have good weekend see you Sunday night

The bathroom question was great!

Wow I never thought about the trophy aspect. Yikes.

End of world- well said!

I want to know doggo’s name!

Same

Abso-freaking-lutely.

I think it was also so he could look out and relive the feeling of power over life and death he thought he had. ugh!

Don’t forget he wanted to stick a mobile or prefab home over the site.

@@msleatha3078that’s exactly what I think too.

Thanks for explaining this!

Thank you for taking the time to type this all out. I remembered there was good reason, but couldn’t remember to this degree of detail and I was disappointed to hear that Audrey seemed less believable because of it. I do understand why, and even her demeanor on the stand could have contributed to that, but when one takes into account that it was happening in real time for her (thinking she wasn’t going to be able to testify to it, but then getting the nudge from prosecution that she could… I mean it’s nerve wracking in and of itself, not to mention it’s a literal death threat you’re talking about, and the perp is right across from you? Not everyone can be strong on the stand. I absolutely think it’s within Lori’s character to do such a thing just as Audrey described it. And having the whole story of how the testimony played out does, at least for me, give a greater understanding of and compassion for the way Audrey came across. [edited for typos]

Thank you for reminding us of this!!

Oh wow! I didn’t follow that entire trial because my adhd needs visuals to stay mentally engaged but I did listen to that testimony- so that’s fascinating to learn this! I’ll have to revisit it now that I know!

Ps I don’t get why the court found it irrelevant to this case- seems that if someone is accused of k!lling a bunch of ppl, that previous threats to un-alive someone would matter. But I guess not!

Ohhh no! Clearly proof Chad ran entire show and gaslighted Lori bigtime as we heard in the jail calls!!!! He lead the plan on these murders! Lori kept begging for affirmation from him! But Lori was sick of the kids and wanted them gone and that’s pretty sick!

Lori has the more dominant personality traits. Chad wanted to please her, have s*x with her so he did her bidding. He was all talk, no action until Lori pushed for the kids to "hit zero". Chad didn't kill Charles, either.

I teach lectures on personalities. Lori has the more dominant personality traits. Chad was all talk, no action until Lori arrived. Lori pushed & pushed and repeatedly asked "are the kids at zero yet??" Lori and Alex killed Charles, too.

​@@Juke582Chad was driving the bus, Lori had her hands on the wheel!

Lori had her foot on the gas pedal!

I think we all get pissed when we see Lori in action, smiling all wide, from ear to ear, after what she did. She seemingly never has a care in the world.

​@@loveforeignaccents💯!!

She gave them nothing to defend her with & thus sunk her own boat

It will never leave them! 😢

Glad your Q got answered, and it was a good one, too!

I couldn’t not help but sense that she immediately thought of what her life was before. She had said besides the closeness she experienced with the other jurors nothing good had come from this. That’s profound. I can’t imagine. My heart goes out to her and I thank her for her service

His name is *Nate.

Ned? Has Nare become a zombie? 😂

Had an abusive ex who tried to take me out. I have to turn it off when it stops being cathartic! Retired Lay Crisis Counselor/First Responder 45 yrs. Praying for justice!

Ned Schneider 🤣​@@loveforeignaccents

@@kayrcee At least we know who Ned is. Who the hell is this "Nare" you refer to? 🤣🤣

Idaho, not Utah :)

@@nikan7704 Brain fart! I knew that. Wait ‘til you get my age. 😂