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Covariance and correlation 

Ben Lambert
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This video explains what is meant by the covariance and correlation between two random variables, providing some intuition for their respective mathematical formulations. Check out ben-lambert.com/econometrics-... for course materials, and information regarding updates on each of the courses. Quite excitingly (for me at least), I am about to publish a whole series of new videos on Bayesian statistics on youtube. See here for information: ben-lambert.com/bayesian/ Accompanying this series, there will be a book: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1...

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Комментарии : 104   
@cgabt1109
@cgabt1109 3 года назад
Good content lasts forever. This has been useful for me, old engineer dog in his mid 50's , relearning statistics. I couldn't get my head around the differences between these two measures - your video did the trick!
@luckyprod9013
@luckyprod9013 2 года назад
Man i feel you, 45 years old here and relearning math for my trading after 20 years spent on excel in corporate finance lol
@jospremji
@jospremji Год назад
@@luckyprod9013 hey, im into trading as well. how are you using statistics for your trading?
@SpartacanUsuals
@SpartacanUsuals 10 лет назад
Hi, thanks for your comment. Good question. Essentially what it means is that the maximum covariance between two random variables, X and Y, is given by when the two variables are the same. In this case the sqrt(var(x).var(x))=var(x). The proof of this depends on the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, and was a little too involved for me to post here. However, I have added it to my list of videos to do in the future. Best, Ben
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 года назад
Hi Ben, have u gotten around to making that video? if yes could you please post the link? Thanks
@talkohavy
@talkohavy 7 лет назад
Well done! I'm taking a course called Linear Regression and I learned a lot from your video. Thank you for the lesson.
@tymothylim6550
@tymothylim6550 3 года назад
Thank you very much for this video, Ben. It really helped me understand the intuition behind the formulae, as well as the relation between Cov and Corr! The visuals helped a lot with explaining, too!
@meshreporting
@meshreporting 10 лет назад
These videos have been nothing but helpful. Thank you so much!
@SpartacanUsuals
@SpartacanUsuals 10 лет назад
Hi, glad to hear they are useful! All the best, Ben
@darynaivaskevych1907
@darynaivaskevych1907 5 лет назад
Thank you for the brilliant explanation! I finally understand why these formulas are like this.
@tjfirhfjejUTH24
@tjfirhfjejUTH24 7 лет назад
good video very clear. if anyone is having trouble make sure you really understand joint pdfs, and expected values.
@harunsuaidi7349
@harunsuaidi7349 3 года назад
Ah, so that's where it comes from. I'm an Art graduate learning Statistics for my master degree in Instructional Technology. I never quite got how one could figure out the mathematical expression of the relationship between two sets of data. Now that you explained it, it becomes much clearer. Damn, mathematicians are smart.
@h-s7218
@h-s7218 Год назад
this video was just a piece of art ! thank you so much! well explained and really clear and smooth !
@batuhantekmen6607
@batuhantekmen6607 3 года назад
Very intuitive and can be watched along with a formal explanation or numerical calculations! Thank you.
@kejeros
@kejeros 8 лет назад
Thank you so much. I am actually getting excited for this final now. haha!
@imzhaodong
@imzhaodong 9 лет назад
I would say these videos are just awesome. thank you so much for effort.
@myvoice8167
@myvoice8167 8 лет назад
Hello Sir,You are such a good instructor.Great job!!!!!! May God Bless you and your loved ones..
@alextessier5727
@alextessier5727 9 лет назад
So helpful to finally understand the difference and the why's! Thank you!
@gabrielasantana3809
@gabrielasantana3809 3 года назад
This guy just has a video for every question, thank you
@Stirner219
@Stirner219 6 лет назад
It's really nice that you also explain the underlying logic of cov and cor. B/C doing without understanding is not much worth. Thanx :)
@antibioticsOfWorld
@antibioticsOfWorld 2 года назад
thank you !! i am doing masters in data science and it helped me to understand the basics properly
@kamalgurnani924
@kamalgurnani924 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot for explaining the idea behind that intuition!!!
@shashikalaraju5769
@shashikalaraju5769 4 года назад
Perfect. You are amazing teacher. You inspire me. Thank you
@Skandawin78
@Skandawin78 6 лет назад
very good explanation. thanks. what is colinearity?
@emilylawrence6051
@emilylawrence6051 2 года назад
What kind of people disliked this video? this video is amazing! Thank you Ben!
@july-9319
@july-9319 3 года назад
thank you for the intuition, ben!
@edentrainor776
@edentrainor776 4 года назад
This is such a damn clear ad well explained explanation it hurts.
@user-zt8dj4nq9g
@user-zt8dj4nq9g 6 лет назад
Really appreciate for the perfect explanation.
@owenlie
@owenlie 3 года назад
Straight to the brain! Thank You!
@Kike_Reloaded
@Kike_Reloaded 3 года назад
Great explanation, thanks for sharing!
@Josh54152
@Josh54152 9 лет назад
This is very good, thank you for your help.
@waihinlee3899
@waihinlee3899 4 года назад
Thank you, very clear explanation.
@palashmyaccount
@palashmyaccount 4 года назад
Great Explanation. Thank you!
@aref6561
@aref6561 7 лет назад
Thank you very much. This was very helpful.
@nackyding
@nackyding 2 года назад
Thank you for the concise definition.
@SachinModi9
@SachinModi9 Год назад
Ben Ji, Awesome video..
@isabelchen3302
@isabelchen3302 Год назад
This is wonderful, thank you!
@COSMOPOLITANWORLD
@COSMOPOLITANWORLD Год назад
You made it easy to understand! Thanks a lot!!
@hondopirat2735
@hondopirat2735 5 лет назад
Super Catalin, très utile !
@saraw8951
@saraw8951 4 года назад
Thank you so much! it's really helpful for my paper
@emanuelhuber4312
@emanuelhuber4312 5 лет назад
Thank you! Awesome video
@husseinfarag7937
@husseinfarag7937 4 года назад
Thanks man, this was really helpful
@jfregnard
@jfregnard 6 лет назад
Very helpful. Thanks !
@Banaan1985
@Banaan1985 8 лет назад
Cheers dude. Helpful video
@najlahs7311
@najlahs7311 3 года назад
Thaaaaaank youuuuuu. So breif and clear.
@JackTheOrangePumpkin
@JackTheOrangePumpkin 3 года назад
Thanks, this was really enlightening
@moliv8927
@moliv8927 Год назад
Good video, explained well and on point
@Elsmeire
@Elsmeire 8 лет назад
Exam in two days, great videos
@Jdonovanford
@Jdonovanford 6 лет назад
I've read that the formula for betas is beta=cov(x,y)/var(x). However, the formula given in many places for betas does not divide by n (or n-2): beta=sum[(x-x_m)*(y-ym)]/sum(x-x_m)^2. IN this formula, neither the numerator or denominator are divided by N or n-1… to be called covariance and variance.
@sophievanbeek7768
@sophievanbeek7768 5 лет назад
This is helping me so much, thank you!
@TrangPham-cy5km
@TrangPham-cy5km 5 лет назад
Sophie Van Beek i dont know how to identity the (+) or (-)of Y. Can you help me
@nickpenacl_
@nickpenacl_ 7 лет назад
question not related with topic ... which instrument (system) did you use for write in the board, will appreciate your explain
@amanuelnigatu4621
@amanuelnigatu4621 7 месяцев назад
this what I want intuition tnx man
@katiegraham8484
@katiegraham8484 5 лет назад
This is an awesome explanation. It would be even better if there was an example to accompany it
@questforprogramming
@questforprogramming 5 лет назад
Yep...
@trent_tsu
@trent_tsu 2 года назад
thank u very much!
@GK-qv3xd
@GK-qv3xd 5 лет назад
Brilliant!
@priyankpatel4041
@priyankpatel4041 6 лет назад
can you give about jtc cross correlation detail
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470 6 лет назад
Love the black background. For some unknown(?) reason, almost all programs use white backgrounds, which I hate because I don't want to be sitting in front of a big ball of light. Tip: there are great plugins to make webpages "dark".
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470
@horizontaalschaalbaar9470 6 лет назад
I readded this comment because it was deleted. Why??? Strange things happen here... It even had likes gd!!!
@khazovaru9892
@khazovaru9892 6 лет назад
Thank youuuuuuuuu 😘😘😘😘
@nicholaschen5821
@nicholaschen5821 8 лет назад
well, u said when P=1, it means X and Y are perfect positively related. Is that mean the gradian of the line is one or this just mean the points are in the same line and no matter the degree between the line and X-axis?
@SpartacanUsuals
@SpartacanUsuals 8 лет назад
+Nicholas Chen Thanks for your comment - good question. If two variables are perfectly correlated then it means we can draw a perfectly straight line through samples from both variables. It doesn't require however, that the relationship is 1:1 between them. Essentially perfect correlation just means that we if we had one variable we could perfectly (ie with no error) predict the other variable. Does that make sense? Best, Ben
@nicholaschen5821
@nicholaschen5821 8 лет назад
Thank you, that is a very helpful answer!!!
@henriquebenassi
@henriquebenassi 5 лет назад
Excellent.
@GEconomaster112
@GEconomaster112 3 месяца назад
Giga chad, thanks!!
@randomyoutubeaccount6906
@randomyoutubeaccount6906 4 года назад
I needed an example. What id Mew? and the expectation, is that the mean? also do we use the total of x and y anywhere? Sorry i'm bad at math and got lost in this video at the same point every time I watched.
@sanathgunawardena832
@sanathgunawardena832 Год назад
Nice!
@sidekick3rida
@sidekick3rida Год назад
What does it mean to "plot a realization?"
@andrescheepers3223
@andrescheepers3223 4 года назад
really enjoys the word sort've...
@hugovreugdenhil
@hugovreugdenhil 8 лет назад
Thanks
@SciFiFactory
@SciFiFactory 4 года назад
Ah, so it is basically the normalized slope of a linear function? y=m*x with the slope [m]=[y/x] Then times x on both sides: y*x=m*x^2 On the left side would be the covariance, if you were to substitute it with (y-mu) and (x-mu). And then to normalize the units on both sides they are divided by something that has the same units as y*x. So here we use the standard deviations sy=sqrt(var(y)) and sx=sqrt(var(x)) .... But I am confused why it never gets bigger than the standard deviation? I mean, aren't like 32% of the samples out side of the standard deviation? So that in 32% of the cases you have something like (y-mu)>=sy , or in 5% of the cases you have something like (y-mu)>=2*sy ?
@deepak2012able
@deepak2012able 10 месяцев назад
Thankyou
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 года назад
at 4:50 whats the intuition that the covariance of x,y can never exceed variance of x times variance of y" ? Thanks
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 года назад
probably you meant - the covariance of x,y can never exceed std dev of x times std dev of y" ? I'm still not sure about its intuition.
@MochitoMaker
@MochitoMaker 7 лет назад
I don't get why in one case we have X>Mx and we get +++ and then we have the same equation with X>Mx and we get +- - What's the logic? Thanks.
@ugurgudelek
@ugurgudelek 5 лет назад
X and Y dont have to be perfectly correlated. So, in some X>Mx cases, Y can be smaller than its mean.
@kunstkt
@kunstkt 10 лет назад
Towards the end you say that var(x)*var(y) is "the greatest possible way in which x and y can covary". What does that mean?
@diodin8587
@diodin8587 4 года назад
+1
@kunstkt
@kunstkt 4 года назад
@@diodin8587 corr=cov/sd(x)*sd(y). The strongest possible correlations are 1 and -1, and they correspond to covariances of sd(x)*sd(y) and -sd(x)*sd(y). He must have meant the square root of var(x)*var(y).
@christinating1340
@christinating1340 8 лет назад
why use covariance when correlation can tell you the direction and strengh of a relationship in a standardized/comparable form? What does covariance give us that correlation does not?
@DmitriNesteruk
@DmitriNesteruk 8 лет назад
There are plenty of places where covariance is used _in lieu_ of correlation. For example, in Modern Portfolio Theory we calculate the covariance matrix in order to be able to calculate the efficient frontier.
@robertotosacanogalarza9021
@robertotosacanogalarza9021 4 года назад
Good!
@arunthashapiruthviraj2783
@arunthashapiruthviraj2783 2 года назад
Clear my doubt
@shrijithr9345
@shrijithr9345 3 года назад
Can someone tell me or point to me someplace where it's explained "How we 'know' that the covariance of x,y can never exceed variance of x times variance of y" ?
@ARM26878
@ARM26878 2 года назад
I have the exact same doubt. Did u find out the answer?
@utkarsh5667
@utkarsh5667 3 года назад
how did you prove that cov(X,Y)=0 implies there is no correlation between the random variables?
@EOCmodernRS
@EOCmodernRS 6 лет назад
I'm not looking for a formula, I'm looking for examples. I don't get the formula. In my head it says ''(E(x)-E(x))*(E(y)-E(y), which is 0. I don't get the formula....
@Darius1295
@Darius1295 6 лет назад
Important to point out that Covariance and Correlation can be zero even if the two variables are dependent.
@pomegranate8593
@pomegranate8593 2 года назад
cheers lad
@hamzatarq7000
@hamzatarq7000 2 года назад
100%
@magnusonx1
@magnusonx1 6 лет назад
British accent....NICE ! ! ! Wishing all Yankees could have British accents
@piersanna8866
@piersanna8866 3 года назад
you say, if x is higher than its mean, then y tends to be also positive. But seconds later yous say if x is higher than its mean then the second parenthesis is likely to be negative. this doesn't make sense and is a contradiction.... could someone please explain????
@mohammadrezakhedmati7777
@mohammadrezakhedmati7777 3 года назад
He's talking about two different scenarios. In the first one, he assumes X and Y are positively correlated ( just like the first graph he drew) and in the second one he assumes these variables are negatively correlated (second graph). That's why the sign of the second parenthesis varies. You've probably figured this out by now, but I tried to give my explanation just in case someone else has the same question. Cheers!
@joannaqian7755
@joannaqian7755 Год назад
save my life
@pkavenger9990
@pkavenger9990 Год назад
In future I think Universities will go obsolete. Any Government can pay experts to make a course and just upload it. Why burn your fuel and energy to get to a place and then spend so much energy coming back home to learn the same thing you can learn from just RU-vid.
@zip9267
@zip9267 4 года назад
help
@krunkerdylan6146
@krunkerdylan6146 2 месяца назад
cut out the 'sort of' 🤣such a brit!
@tastsolakis1519
@tastsolakis1519 5 лет назад
thanks for the explanation really good! Next time though please talk a little more clear!
@bebla8381
@bebla8381 4 года назад
i want the fucking explanation for the formula, the intuitive reason of why it is what it is. why is that so hard to find? the ACTUAL intuitive explanation for the formula, every fucking video about covariance they show you the formula and thats it.. it makes me wonder if anyone actually understands where the formula truly comes from
@deedi9001
@deedi9001 4 года назад
The logic is fucking confusing
@GuglielmoRiva97
@GuglielmoRiva97 4 года назад
try saying "sort of" less often
@ilhamkseibi6157
@ilhamkseibi6157 7 лет назад
oh man, things with you sounds much more complicated, if you are trying to do something like khan academy, well you are not
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