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CRASH! Are we sinking? Collision at sea. Ep 238 

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Bad news this week! Leaving AIrlie Beach we got run into by a charter Catamaran. Trade Runner sustained some damage from the impact and this will seriously hinder me in my mission of getting to Lombok by late September. We were sailing and were run into by a boat motoring and with no-one on watch so the law is one our side but it still felt terrible to be involved. I tell you about the whole incident while on an overnight passage up to Townsville to begin the repairs.
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@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 9 месяцев назад
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@marie-morganerousselin2352
@marie-morganerousselin2352 11 месяцев назад
I love the picto to hide the actual boat. I can perfectly imagine what kind of boat it was haha ! You handled that perfectly lover ! A little bit of stress for sure, but that’s in this kind of situation that I can see your cold head working well! Love you
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
floating block of apartments, pretty obvious what sort of boat it was eh?
@chrisyarnold6205
@chrisyarnold6205 11 месяцев назад
Amazed as they being a commercial charter vessel, never showed up on AIS. Anyway I am the same as you, hate dealing with things that take my good time away, so most legalities, would have done the same thing, settled out of court. Hope this doesn't knock your schedule too much.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, amazing that they would deicide to save the $1000 on the AIS system. Its not a legal requirement to have it in Australia.
@deemad2180
@deemad2180 11 месяцев назад
You're a legend mate
@timmitchell8784
@timmitchell8784 11 месяцев назад
Glad it wasn’t to bad. And happy you weren’t derailed
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Coulda been sooo much worse
@SubtechSports
@SubtechSports 11 месяцев назад
We really feel with you Vernon. Hope you can get the boat fixed soon so you can keep sailing on your exciting adventure up to Indo.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Fingers crossed!
@smith0819
@smith0819 11 месяцев назад
I like that you "man-up" and take some of the responsibility for the collision. Surely a humbling experience for any captain. Some day you'll look back and see that the Mad Dash was truly an epic journey.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
There's no doubt I shoulder some of the blame
@eltnot
@eltnot 11 месяцев назад
Glad that you're okay. Love your work and keep it up, looking forwards to seeing the repairs so that Trade Runner is all looking pretty again.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, will do!
@Thenewkidsonthedock
@Thenewkidsonthedock 11 месяцев назад
So gnarly! Another one to add to the books Vernon, sorry you experienced this but so impressed how you moved through the whole situation. Massive ups mate
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks guys. Another story for when I'm old and boring.
@budawang77
@budawang77 6 месяцев назад
It's good to see the system worked fairly in this case. 90/10% fault sounds about right. Thanks also for you candour and lack of misplaced pride/arrogance. Every sailor makes mistakes (bar none) and sometimes a small mistake can have big consequences. Other times you get lucky and you can get away with a big mistake, but each time it's a learning opportunity.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! Amsa said 90/10, I’d have been willing to accept 70/30.
@rickpyne
@rickpyne 11 месяцев назад
Vernon, I hope the repairs are progressing OK, splicing the two parts of your dagger board together will be the hardest part. Please make sure you check the board casing for any fractures, very important. Glad to hear the boat builder is involved. Good luck at TSV and hope you are on the water again soon..
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tips! Should be all pretty straight forward I reckon
@garthsykes7691
@garthsykes7691 11 месяцев назад
Happy you have that way behind you. Nice run up to H Bay.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@sailingwiththejamess
@sailingwiththejamess 11 месяцев назад
So scary, very good handling moving the boat as to not hit head on. Glad you were able to get hauled out in Townsville ❤
@jonathanscott550
@jonathanscott550 11 месяцев назад
Wow you were really lucky thankfully your quick reactions steering saved you and likely the other cat from way more damage. Yes I agree if you got a good settlement and keep it out of courts that's the way to go. Thankfully and most importantly no one got injured or worse. This sailing alone on your passage was really good and showed more of you sailing and getting some where.Looking forward to next video Vern stay safe cheers
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks mate.
@rossmain4142
@rossmain4142 11 месяцев назад
The mad dash is turning into a real adventure, fingers crossed all goes well from here on
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
More of a madness than I hoped for to be honest.
@shaynewoodman6610
@shaynewoodman6610 11 месяцев назад
i feel you got lucky it mite have been a real nightmaire hope it fixes well and you keep up the good work on utube glad no one got hurt be safe and happy shayne
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Shane. Yeah main thing is that only the boat got hurt.
@giork2828
@giork2828 11 месяцев назад
Vernon, do you happen to have a special friend or mentor who may help you with costs, repairing or buying a boat, and decisions in general? I would have a hard time during & after deciding on some matters, and you seem to do it so naturally. Great episode... sorry it halted your voyage! Wishing you all the best!!
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thats a good question. To be honest I just follow my gut instinct on most things. I try real hard not to be indecisive and believe that you're better off making a wrong decision than making No decision. My memory is not great so I use make lots of lists for things like costs, orders etc. I did speak at length with the man who built Trade Runner and he helped me a lot
@peterlee440
@peterlee440 11 месяцев назад
I feel your pain Vernon. Hope there’s no surprises! Good luck.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
🙏
@SoundzAlive1
@SoundzAlive1 11 месяцев назад
Glad you escaped a nightmare! Wish I could have met up and sailed. Started Airlie to Sydney a week ago and saw your bottle at Middle Percy and met caretakers Mal and his lovely wife. André.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Enjoy your trip south mate.
@SoundzAlive1
@SoundzAlive1 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing you to. I see you are getting close now so have a great trip to France. André
@robertlaird6746
@robertlaird6746 11 месяцев назад
Wow, that was gnarly. Hopefully the insurance covers the yard and everything so that your not left without on anything. I was in a race with a short starting line and all the other Nacra 6.0's were bunched up on that line going both directions. All of us had our main and jib up and it was blowing about 12 knots. It was a double trapeze day with both of us out on the wire. I remember flying by others and having to lean in to avoid hitting their wires. I had no where to go but streight ahead as boats were on either side of me going the opposite direction. It was nuts. There were about 15 or so boats on the starting line. Thank God no one crashed into each other but I'll tell you that it almost happened several times with me and basically everyone else. That was the scariest day I've ever had racing. Not the scariest day I've ever had out on the water sailing. I almost died once sailing and almost went down in a storm on a 165 ft. gaff rigged schooner in the North Sea. If you had a Mumby 48, do you think the damage would be worse or not as bad. Not sure how dented aluminum could be fixed without cutting out sections of the hull, bending and welding new section back into place. Glad no one was hurt because that's the most important thing.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Who knows? as always its a matter of wrong place at the wrong time. Shit happens. no one for hurt
@Yelnats87
@Yelnats87 11 месяцев назад
Jees Vern! That's a massive ball ache... to say the least pal! Sorry to hear about this man! I can't believe they didn't have anyone at the helm with the weather being so bad and also being a commercial vessel... you'd expect the experience would be there on their side! Man... the only silver lining is that it could have been so much worse bro! Anyways man... chin up and fingers crossed for the rest of the trip mate!
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
oh yeah, could have been so much worse! It will all turn out for the best in the long run, just need to stay positive
@jtlissner3062
@jtlissner3062 11 месяцев назад
Mad dash with a little crash
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Sounds like a cocktail.
@sailorruss5279
@sailorruss5279 11 месяцев назад
Very honest account of the collision Vernon
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Keeping it real.
@Thealder07
@Thealder07 11 месяцев назад
Glad you, and the boat generally are OK
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
yeah for sure, thats the main thing
@nooneanybodyknows7912
@nooneanybodyknows7912 11 месяцев назад
With the amount of drinking shown and promoted by the YCA and other sailors, I am 100% confident these types of accidents happen often and go unreported, settling matters between parties without written documentation. Of course it's kept private with NDA's between parties. Thank you, Vernon, for sharing your experience, the reporting process, your damage assessment, and the settling process. I'm relieved to learn it wasn't more serious. I appreciate your honest assessment of the embarrassing accident. Fair winds 🌬
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks. So we settled out of court but accident reports were officially filed and judged on.
@nooneanybodyknows7912
@nooneanybodyknows7912 11 месяцев назад
@VernonDeckLearningByDoing I commend you for your honest transparency. 👏
@yachticus
@yachticus 11 месяцев назад
hey mate - if you are one up - I am pretty sure we'd all feel a little less concerned if you sailed with at least an inflatable on. Auto pilot - running down wind - really simple to get spat over the side. Just a thought
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
In some conditions I do, I just use my judgment when
@drjasper100
@drjasper100 11 месяцев назад
I think you were very fortunate to get a quick result in your favour. That could have so easily turned into a 50/50 dispute. Good luck with repairs. Which given I see your in Kapang, your obviously all good. I look forward to future adventures.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks mate, things worked out pretty well. stay tuned for more news on the repairs.
@genieclarke7346
@genieclarke7346 11 месяцев назад
Hope this does not cause too much of a delay. But at least it was resolved. Safe sailing.
@user-tq1sp5ly9l
@user-tq1sp5ly9l 11 месяцев назад
Hope the repairs go smoothly. Glad all are ok. 👍
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
I hope so too
@svthorasailing4868
@svthorasailing4868 11 месяцев назад
2 crew on a charter vessel and they hit another vessel,embarrassing,oh still waiting for my T-shirt from the 360 video comp you did,cheers Vernon,safe sailing bro.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks mate. Hit me up on email of the Tee. info@vernondeck.com
@klemenprezelj
@klemenprezelj 11 месяцев назад
Your boat is really a stunner. That crash could have been much worse if it was your falt. U'll buff that out and be on your way in no time. Looking forward to new material from you✌️best regards from Slovenia.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
thanks mate, she'll be good as new in no time
@meredithbayly8617
@meredithbayly8617 11 месяцев назад
Phew! Could have been worse. Can’t look back. Love those speeds you get so you’ll make the time up. Hoping you’re enjoying yourself.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Yep, I'll be flying north again soon as.
@Brad.whatthe
@Brad.whatthe 11 месяцев назад
Solid as a rock....na
@colinboniface194
@colinboniface194 11 месяцев назад
first... I must say, you are handling the collision really well... There is no point making lawyers rich either. Good decision to negotiate the exit you did... You'll make Trade Runner shiny again...
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
I second that! No way Id involve enriching lawyers unless absolutely necessary
@braddobson2060
@braddobson2060 11 месяцев назад
That's bad news I hope things go well.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
thanks
@superwag634
@superwag634 11 месяцев назад
Those balsa core damages can be quite severe without showing much external damage. Hope your claim money is sufficient for any nasty surprises
@marie-morganerousselin2352
@marie-morganerousselin2352 11 месяцев назад
Happily, Trade Runner is not a balsa core but a foam core. We would not trust to have a cat of this age with balsa core.
@superwag634
@superwag634 11 месяцев назад
@@marie-morganerousselin2352 ok, foam is better. But my comment generally applies to all cores, because they’re all weak in tension and shear. I’m just commenting from a professional structural engineering point of view. All the best. Hope it’s an easy fix for you.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Mate, I would never consider buying a Balsa cored Cat! Balsa and Polyester, two of the most used products in todays most shitty boats. Painted cardboard is nearly as good.
@osmanozkan3652
@osmanozkan3652 11 месяцев назад
Hey Man glad it ended with minor damages but once you haul the cat out don't forget to check the bulkheads ( pretty sure you have it in your mind but just in case lol ) other than that be safe out there 🤞
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Yeah for sure, I've gone of the boat with a fine toothed comb. There wasn't really a big impact, just a glaring blow then they slide along the side.
@markb5555
@markb5555 11 месяцев назад
Think we have just missed you ,we were in Kupang last night but after watching your video we decided to go to Rote 👍
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
I'm in Rote now but leaving Monday early. Say hi if you arrive Sunday
@carlcarl7056
@carlcarl7056 11 месяцев назад
Seems like you might need some cameras in the front. I’m sure that would help a lot.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
I prefer the KISS concept.
@travellers.explorers
@travellers.explorers 11 месяцев назад
Learning by doing bro, so what would you do differently in the same situation next time?
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
I would have had my full wet weather gear on and been keeping a better watch.
@bevanhill5648
@bevanhill5648 11 месяцев назад
Hi Vernon how is maree going
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thank for asking! Marie and the baby are doing real well, probably didnt improve the stress levels when I told her about this incident though.
@4GH440
@4GH440 11 месяцев назад
Bit curious, did you do a haul out have a shipwright check you boat. Also are you insured, if so did you advise your insurance company of the crash.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
No and No
@marie-morganerousselin2352
@marie-morganerousselin2352 11 месяцев назад
We did inform our insurance, it didn’t help much in our case but they were knowing what happened
@apponemberala4254
@apponemberala4254 11 месяцев назад
I see your ship is now In Nembrala. Is that you?
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Yes it is me, arrived last night from kupang. The videos are a bit behind now and I've been ripping since getting the repairs done. here for a few days rest now.
@markbailey6051
@markbailey6051 11 месяцев назад
Ship happens
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
indeed
@carltontweedle5724
@carltontweedle5724 11 месяцев назад
This is about some companies not putting the right thing aboard. Just say no AIS this is wrong. Plus a captain whos job it is to look after the guests. Not the boat. You are in the right being under sail there job is to get the fcuk out the way. A TBONE would have been really bad for both boats. Remember keep the stick up and the people inside.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Yeah it seems an odd place to save a little bit of money, AIS is pretty damn good and money well spent imho
@Brad.whatthe
@Brad.whatthe 11 месяцев назад
A cat attacking your boat is bad enough, on the news tonight 30 sharks attacked an inflatable catamaran 600 miles east of your position and 3 crew had to be rescued, I imagine everyone would have been on watch on that boat 😮
@marie-morganerousselin2352
@marie-morganerousselin2352 11 месяцев назад
Oh wow 😮! Sounds to be a crazy story, I will check that !
@Brad.whatthe
@Brad.whatthe 11 месяцев назад
@@marie-morganerousselin2352 one of the men was French and two Russians, circumnavigating on a 9 metre pool toy 🦈
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thise guys are pretty legendary explorers mate. Pretty scary.
@Brad.whatthe
@Brad.whatthe 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing it’s not like the media to blow it up but now they have reported they were cookie cutter sharks bitting at the pontoons, Not White or Mako sharks
@svthorasailing4868
@svthorasailing4868 11 месяцев назад
Would have put stresses on the bulkheads,do a proper check,I know you need to get back to baby mumma but do a thorough assessment.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
It put stress's on my brains bulkheads thats for sure.
@UUBrahman
@UUBrahman 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing Smart to not buy a brand new boat as it would be that much more frustrating to have a collision. Good on you.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
@@UUBrahman haha, it had nothing to do with being smart and all to do with not having to he millions needed for a new boat.
@stuartlennox66
@stuartlennox66 11 месяцев назад
I wouldn't beat yourself up about things, it is obvious as you say most of the blame is on this guy for not doing his job properly, as for you saying its a blemish on your record I don't see it as that at all , you were keeping watch he wasn't, end of story, so as I say don't beat yourself up.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks. I'm not beating myself up about it but for sure am using it to learn from. No-one is perfect and we all make mistakes, most important is to learn form them and hopefully not make the same one again
@MrFastFarmer
@MrFastFarmer 11 месяцев назад
Did you have the AIS on?
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
I did have it one and was monitoring all other boats on the screen but the boat in question didn't have AIS. Not a legal requirement in Australia.
@MrFastFarmer
@MrFastFarmer 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing maybe it should be..
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
@@MrFastFarmer higher than my pay grade mate.
@travellers.explorers
@travellers.explorers 11 месяцев назад
Very surprised a commercial charter boat not having ais, good to know
@pmnfernando
@pmnfernando 11 месяцев назад
the exam answer about keeping watch is: AT ALL TIMES, BY ALL AVAILABLE MEANS. it aint hard.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Sometimes a hot coffee takes priority I guess.
@pmnfernando
@pmnfernando 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing y that was the thinking of the other skipper and see where that landed him. making a parallell with the aviation industry here: the biggest accident was the Pan Am-KLM colision that happened on the floor whilst the KLM was taxing was the Pan Am was landing (or the other way around), the KLM captain was super experienced, close to retire Nd chose to ignore atc to stanby at that position leading up to the ground coliision upon landing. i repeat, he was really experienced and because of that was so confident that he ignored the rules. i get what you say specially if you are single handling, but slowing or stoping the boat might be the difference between hitting something or not. Its the coffe that has to be integrated into the look out not the other way around, if we want to mitigate risk
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
@@pmnfernando why does everyone reference the aviation industry? As far as the transport industry is concerned, sailing is closer to the horse and carriage than an aeroplane.
@pmnfernando
@pmnfernando 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing o dont know why everybody references it, i referece it because my old man is a pilot and because i know for a fact that the standard of training is way ahead. and it has to be: a plane climbs hundreds ofmeters every 3 seconds should the pilot floors it
@pmnfernando
@pmnfernando 11 месяцев назад
@@SailingLearningByDoing i also happen to be a RYA YM Offshore, and were commercially endorsed for a few years. it has since expired because my STCW95 expired. ie, i could, if i retake the STCW and have a medical done, work as a commercial skipper on those fugly lagoons taking shit faced ppl out for a spin.
@Antipodean33
@Antipodean33 11 месяцев назад
Oh man so you were hit by a block of flats cat, I think I know the type. It shows how things can happen so quickly and easily. No AIS warning? Mate if you're happy with the cash you got thats the best way to go, court and all that BS is such a time waster and who knows what the future holds, the company could go bust, change hands have a change of heart, there's too many variables with that scenario. The damage looks like a pressure crack thats not too bad, obviously the snapped board but the interesting part will be the dagger board box, thats where you'll need to have a careful look. Good luck with it all, it should be pretty much a straight forward job
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Yeah a block of floating flats. They had no AIS installed. I carefully checkout out the board case and apart from some paint there's no damage there. dodged a bullet I reckon
@billhanna8838
@billhanna8838 11 месяцев назад
Shit happens , No ome hurt , Cash in the bank = Move on .
@pakkelly
@pakkelly 11 месяцев назад
Wow! Two cats, one with eight people, one with three people, so that is eleven without one standing proper watch! The first rule of seamanship is to have a crew member standing watch. The Aussie authorities may have determined a 90/10 fault ratio but the truth of the matter is that it is a fifty-fifty split because both vessels failed to stand watch. (Forget the under power, under sail, etc. B.S.) Non-disclosure agreement! So the commercial vessel is trying to cover up their incompetence. Therefore the next innocent paying passenger will have no idea the tour boat has a history of stupid accidents. The Aussie authorities should yank that captain’s license and fine the tour boat company. Like you said vernon, someone could have been killed. It seems that every new generation of sailors read Slocum and Moitessier and feel it necessary to solo sail. You just almost lost your boat because of failure to stand watch and you proceed to depart solo to your next destination. It would be interesting to hear you rationalize that over a beer. Are you going to rely on electronic collision avoidance systems? It didn't work in this instance. Don't misunderstand, i am a big fan of yours and respect your years of sailing. But both in general aviation and boating people have their heads in their chartplotters and forget to look outside the cockpit. Last word, you might consider high cut foresails so that you aren't blind to what is in front of you.
@marie-morganerousselin2352
@marie-morganerousselin2352 11 месяцев назад
I will let Vern answer to you but in this situation, I don’t think solo sailing is the issue. Vern would have been way more aware on watch if he was not having new crew, you are chatting, and get less focus, for few seconds and boom, it can happen, especially in a busy place as the Whitsundays. He is fully aware that he has is part of responsibility. But about continuing solo sailing, for me it is all about risk/reward. First Vern decided to buy a boat to solo sail, that was is first goal, and he is accepting the risks. I mean, driving a car to go to job is also a risk, you could be not focus for a second and have a big crash, when he was snowboarding backcountry, he had to face some situations with avalanches and accidents, even when you think you are doing only safe things, with all the insurances possible, bad things can still happen. If we were only sailing with perfect conditions, with big crew, staying safely in marina in hurricane season, paying insurances for everything, maybe we would be more wise and safe, but we would be so bored 😂 ! We are continuously learning, trying to learn of our mistakes. We are not taking risks for nothing, but we know that our lifestyle, the things we like to do, are coming with their lot of risks, and this is life. Maybe I am not objective cause I am taking about my partner and lover, but I am glad he sailed some legs solo, for his pleasure but also cause he would he would be way behind if he was waiting for a skilled crew member for every sailing passages, and I would give birth without him 😂
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
Hi Pat. Im glad you feel qualified to judge this case differently than Marine Safety Queensland and Australian Marine Safety Australia. They both came up with 90-10 based on their investigations. I'm so thankful for your report of a 50-50 finding, means a lot. And no, they did not forget the under sail/power rule, they know all the rules.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing 11 месяцев назад
So you think there should be a crew member posted up on the bows at all times on passage? I dont start my engines for days at a time, its fine. How may boats get thier engines fired up daily? About none I'd say. Fine if you want to do it but completely unnecessary.
@briangilliland3620
@briangilliland3620 11 месяцев назад
​@@SailingLearningByDoingonya Vernon. This dick obviously a dockside sailor. 😒
@briangilliland3620
@briangilliland3620 11 месяцев назад
You're a treasure Marie ❤
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