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Crashing Seconds After Takeoff in Kentucky | How Two Deadly Mistakes Sealed the Fate of 121 People 

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Find out how two similar mistakes made by the pilots of flight 5191 and flight 2605 sealed the fate of 121 people. The Bombardier CRJ-100 operating as Comair Flight 5191, marketed as Delta Connection Flight 5191, crashed seconds after taking off from Lexington Airport, Kentucky; the McDonnell Douglas DC-10 operating as Western Airlines Flight 2605 crashed while on approach to Mexico City Airport, Mexico.
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@aviatorschannel
@aviatorschannel 2 года назад
Always a weird feeling to the stomach, hearing voices of people, who are near few moments from death, Rest In Peace, The Flight channel thank you for making these videos
@Gat_Totin_Liberal
@Gat_Totin_Liberal 2 года назад
Hearing the panic screaming from the voice recorder on the last one was heart wrenching.
@BlairMan89
@BlairMan89 2 года назад
@@Gat_Totin_Liberal Agreed. You can feel the raw fear in his voice. It’s devastating.
@piercehawke8021
@piercehawke8021 2 года назад
@@BlairMan89 Exactly! And especially experienced pilots losing their cool, even when looking death in the face, that's sobering.
@wadeh2899
@wadeh2899 2 года назад
@@piercehawke8021 not long ago after seeing a different video on the second crash, I saw an interview with a guy from NTSB who’s job is to listen to the FDR and the CVR. He said the pilots almost always scream or panic, but they don’t release that stuff to the general public. I’ve read other comments on this particular crash before and it always blows my mind how some people can be so uncaring and comment on that pilots bravery (or lack thereof in their expert opinion). None of us have had to face what that man had to. And none of us know for sure how we’d act. Anyone saying otherwise is an arrogant liar.
@piercehawke8021
@piercehawke8021 2 года назад
@@wadeh2899 And what you outlined to me, def is sobering.
@MoogieB
@MoogieB 2 года назад
The panic & anguish in that Captain’s voice was hard to hear. So very sad.
@gm12551
@gm12551 2 года назад
I compare it to the Apollo 1 fire. Don’t listen to it.
@graciegjj
@graciegjj 2 года назад
@@gm12551 Was it all included here?
@seancasey9557
@seancasey9557 2 года назад
It makes me think of how terrified the dump truck driver had to have been seeing the DC-10 closing in on them. They'd likely have been in sheer panic mode as well. It's heartbreaking.
@stellakowalski5145
@stellakowalski5145 2 года назад
@@seancasey9557 that poor truck driver didn’t have the seconds necessary from awareness to impact to ever feel the fear.
@seancasey9557
@seancasey9557 2 года назад
Stella, sorry I don't really understand what you meant.
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 Год назад
James Polehinke, the first officer who was sole survivor of first crash was greatly affected by survivor's guilt that he always crying at night and even to the point almost took his own lives plenty of times knowing he held responsible for the death of 49 people and yet he survived as a "punishment" by bearing those heavy burden for the rest of his life.
@vangarus
@vangarus Год назад
He'd better share this emotion with new and old pilots. Keeping it inside will destroy him😢
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 Год назад
@@vangarus No he retired after that incident because they had to amputate his leg, if i recall his wife is the main reason why he didn't kill himself because she is always supportive to him.
@bruh3245
@bruh3245 Год назад
Honestly, it wasn’t even his own fault. The captain taxied to runway 26, a runway that is not authorized for commercial use then the whole plane dramatically died
@jameswilliamjohnson
@jameswilliamjohnson 2 года назад
When the F/O commented on "no lights" should have been a tipoff. I've seen other videos where pilots ignored strange conditions and continued on.
@marifromky
@marifromky 2 года назад
like tenerife.
@bignades1
@bignades1 2 года назад
pilots ignore strange conditions all the time, because they happen all the time and are usually not a big deal so people get comfortable. You only notice the 1 time it goes bad, but not the 1000 other times it didn’t
@loc4725
@loc4725 2 года назад
Well from flying model aircraft (full size may be different) if something seems wrong you *don't* continue. I've seen plenty of crashes & near misses because a pilot ignored the warning signs and tried to continue without investigating first.
@norbert.kiszka
@norbert.kiszka 2 года назад
​@@loc4725 physics law and aerodynamics are the same on biggest world aircraft AN-225 and on smallest UAV. Both can crash on somebody head. Too many people thinks this is easier than it it is, but its not. Learn (get f. knowledge), then practice - not the opposite.
@Taladar2003
@Taladar2003 2 года назад
@@bignades1 Everyone ignores strange conditions all the time until their last time. What you are describing is basically just survivorship bias.
@MB-hc2xw
@MB-hc2xw 2 года назад
These 2 CVRs are haunting. So many mistakes. RIP.
@markoutwithmark
@markoutwithmark 2 года назад
The pacing of your videos is brilliant. There are Hollywood directors who can't build tension as effectively as you do.
@RobsonWilliam82
@RobsonWilliam82 2 года назад
And he don't need that awful narration of TV shows. Keep the good work!
@VAHOSS
@VAHOSS 2 года назад
Agreed
@chasenip2
@chasenip2 2 года назад
Perfectly stated!
@sammmmysorookaaa1413
@sammmmysorookaaa1413 2 года назад
@@RobsonWilliam82 the channel air safety institute does similar videos and the narrator has a nice voice
@RobsonWilliam82
@RobsonWilliam82 2 года назад
@@sammmmysorookaaa1413 Just like Disaster Breakdown. He have a nice narration too.
@jiaconis
@jiaconis 2 года назад
It never fails to amaze me that such obvious things to take into consideration when operating an aircraft go ignored! The cries of terror when the flight crew fully recognize what’s about to happen are terrorizing! RIP to all the souls on these flights!!
@peter_shadow7559
@peter_shadow7559 2 года назад
That's just what I thought. Being a commercial pilot he probably must have taken off planes at night. He should know that the take-off procedure includes a lighted runway. No lights on? It is immediately red flag.
@MoneyOverFame
@MoneyOverFame 2 года назад
@@peter_shadow7559 is this a common thing ? what does no lights indicate ?
@cynthiadavid5282
@cynthiadavid5282 2 года назад
So sad
@superweedenjoyer
@superweedenjoyer 10 месяцев назад
@@MoneyOverFame No lights visible would be an indicator that there's not a runway there
@SuperZytoon
@SuperZytoon 2 года назад
Listening to these final moments of the lives of the crews is gut wrenching. God Bless all involved.
@BastianKH
@BastianKH 2 года назад
It was God who killed them. It was his plan for their lifes.
@tjhookit
@tjhookit 2 года назад
@@BastianKH So you are saying God exists?
@BastianKH
@BastianKH 2 года назад
@@tjhookit No, Mary did. I just explained her own religion to her. ;) If she is a christian, all this must be according to God's great plan.
@sonoftheking1977
@sonoftheking1977 2 года назад
@@BastianKH What Christianity do you study exactly? God's plan was to reconcile humanity back to himself through the sacrifice of his Son. Bad stuff happens in the world but its nobodies fault but our very own we have brought evil upon ourselves but of course as evil humans we point the finger at God. They died because stuff happens and humans die.
@BastianKH
@BastianKH 2 года назад
@@sonoftheking1977 It is God's fault, because he created humanity. And he is all knowing, so when he created them, he knew everything that will happen before it happens. He is allmighty, or not? So everything is according to his great plan. Like giving children deadly diseases at birth etc. He's a loving God.
@GeoffGorman08
@GeoffGorman08 2 года назад
Man, that Flight 2605 CVR hits me hard everytime I hear it. His horrified shrill of immense panic and dread will haunt me forever. The shear terror in the pilots screams knowing that his fate is sealed and in less than 5 seconds his inevitable death awaits him. F***ing terrifying and unfathomably heartbreaking. God rest all the souls lost in both these tragedies.
@dannicatzer305
@dannicatzer305 2 года назад
In contrast the co-pilot was cool and calm telling him to get it up.... I hope I'm that cool when facing certain imminent death but I think I'd sound more like the capt to be honest...
@bribread
@bribread 2 года назад
Hearing the first conversation ... the noise of surprise before they crashed... makes this all the more scary and sad. The POV at 13:30 made my heart race... horrifying. The screaming right before they crashed. ouch. Rest In Peace to everyone who passed away.
@marifromky
@marifromky 2 года назад
they didn't "pass away" they were all burnt alive.
@dianna1976
@dianna1976 2 года назад
@@marifromky Pass away, means to pass to the other side regardless of how.
@derekcurrent6353
@derekcurrent6353 2 года назад
Living in Lexington, that was terrible day. After this accident, Bluegrass Airport extended some if not all the runways and cleared the trees surrounding the airport. If memory serves me, the plane came to rest a few hundred feet from the aircraft fire training center for our firefighters. RIP to those that were lost and you’ll never be forgotten.
@theWinterWalker
@theWinterWalker 7 месяцев назад
I live in just in Frankfort off of 60, bluegrass is 12 miles from my house, I remember this like it was yesterday. There's so much hate for the pilots but this didn't happen in a vacuum and blame is not to be placed on one sole source. Humans ARE fallible, that's WHAT Jesus is for, bc we are just electric meat on a stick susceptible to our faulty electric ball o fat. When we place judgement on the pilots we fail to recognize all the other fail points and when that happens we miss so many chances to insert new redundancies because we ARE only human and WILL FAIL PERIOD. RIP 🥀
@nikkitronic80
@nikkitronic80 2 года назад
The CVRs from both of these incidents are the most haunting and horrific things I have ever heard. Especially the screams of the captain in the second one, the sounds of a man screaming for his life.. it's just devastatingly sad to hear. I've heard both recordings before, gives me chills every time. Also, I didn't know that the FO who was the PF was the sole survivor in the first crash. That poor man. I'm sure all these men were good pilots, but sadly, mistakes happen. I say a prayer for all involved. May the souls of the dead rest in peace. 🙏✈️ Great video as always Flight Channel
@desdicadoric
@desdicadoric 2 года назад
I hear you, they are in Gods care now
@donkeyshow7235
@donkeyshow7235 2 года назад
I've heard one worse. It was from a helicopter accident in Arizona. The screams are terrifying. It's on youtube if you're interested. Arizona news chopper recreation is what I think its under.
@robcohen7678
@robcohen7678 2 года назад
Yeah I'd heard the first one before and it's not that bad, but the second one is new to me and seriously... ugh. Scary stuff.
@piercehawke8021
@piercehawke8021 2 года назад
@@donkeyshow7235 KTVK Ch 3 and KNXV Ch 15; I remember that tragedy, which occurred over Indian School and 7th St if memory holds me correct
@dare-er7sw
@dare-er7sw 2 года назад
Life and death, no one wants to die but sometimes death comes without warning. The near death experience accounts on RU-vid gives me solace that life continues .
@harveytyler4869
@harveytyler4869 2 года назад
It’s so sad that they almost were able to take off, just a few more feet and the rotation would have been complete, that yelp at the end was so horrible, I hope the first officer can find peace after this, great job again flight channel.
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 Год назад
James Polehinke, the first officer who was sole survivor of first crash was greatly affected by survivor's guilt that he always crying at night and even to the point almost took his own lives plenty of times knowing he held responsible for the death of 49 people and yet he survived as a "punishment" by bearing those heavy burden for the rest of his life.
@henrydenner5448
@henrydenner5448 2 года назад
That recording of that sidestep accident always gives me chills 💔💔💔💔
@ADPeguero
@ADPeguero 2 года назад
This is so sad to hear the crew in their final moments. I would hate to be a family member reliving these tragic moments. My deepest condolences to them.
@mariancounsellor
@mariancounsellor 2 года назад
Yes, it was very sad.
@annakeye
@annakeye 2 года назад
That poor man, knowing his demise was imminent. It demonstrates how everything can change in what feels like the blink of an eye. Great upload again. Thanks TFC.
@ewilloch
@ewilloch 2 года назад
Of all the accidents I‘ve read about or seen videos of, these two are among the absolute saddest. Really terrible. Rest in peace.
@aflacduckquack
@aflacduckquack 2 года назад
If they had just been paying attention. Details matter in aviation. Thank you for a fine vid, TFC... you and Allec Ibay are the best...
@pomerau
@pomerau 2 года назад
Just imagine being in charge of a large aircraft that is careering at full thrust, while fatally damaged, off a runway towards airport buildings, possibly containing thousands of people, and of course knowing you and all your passengers are about to die. A nightmare became real. Rest in Peace everyone. It's hard to be critical of the crew. They failed to relate and be alert this one time. I would hope airports would have the technology to realise and alert them now, but I think not. Terrible to hear a truck driver was also killed by a main landing gear bogey while doing nights in a relaxed, safe environment. Awful tragedy. (I haven't commented here on the first incident)
@jefftheriault5522
@jefftheriault5522 2 года назад
How do you not have a standard proceedure to inform an in-coming flight that a side step will be required to the open runway??? There should have been a placard above every operator's station to remind them, including an instruction to get the flight crew to repeat back the instruction. And the caution about the revised landing proceedure should have been the first thing communicated by the tower.
@pomerau
@pomerau 2 года назад
@@jefftheriault5522 That sounds right. There should have been a procedure, a reminder. Why can't they have GPS/ electronic mapping on real maps of incoming flights as well as radar with another form of TCAS, but I'm not in aviation obviously. They were let down for not remembering. Should not be allowed to happen.
@NondescriptMammal
@NondescriptMammal 2 года назад
@@jefftheriault5522 that and maybe even a sign with a giant flashing arrow in front of the closed runway, pointing to the open runway
@PRH123
@PRH123 2 года назад
@@jefftheriault5522 there are standard procedures, the runway closures are noted in the NOTAMs provided to the crew with the flight plan, and the approach is described in the Jepp charts which they should review before the approach, and back in the day they would have the Jepp chart clipped to the middle of the pilots yoke. This is why the controllers naturally assumed they knew the approach to R. All the other flights that day - week - month did because they followed the procedures.
@thomassutherland5188
@thomassutherland5188 2 года назад
These vids are creating better pilots. Thank you.
@jimb12312
@jimb12312 2 года назад
Darwinian selection also helps. Some people are not born to be pilots.
@sp5704
@sp5704 2 года назад
Very informative and important to have these type of skills in general .
@peterkoln2837
@peterkoln2837 2 года назад
Thank your for this brilliant video! Very sad that a pilot error led to such a loss of life. May they all rest in peace.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
People make mistakes. When they do they die
@askme2985
@askme2985 2 года назад
I've been watching this channel for years and I've never posted a comment before, but the end with the voice of the pilots.....that shook me. I sat here and felt my heart sank. I can't imagine sitting in that cockpit knowing you're about to crash and die within seconds.
@windsorkid7069
@windsorkid7069 2 года назад
I saw the first incident on this channel quite awhile back, so apparently you added the second incident to it because of the similarities. Good job.
@uniqueurl
@uniqueurl 2 года назад
Both are already there.
@dezznutz3743
@dezznutz3743 2 года назад
He just mashed 2 old videos together....with JAL123 still untouched, it makes you wonder what hes waiting for...
@treywest268
@treywest268 2 года назад
I am sitting here watching this at the 6m30s mark going, "Oh no, no, no, No!!! That is not 22!!!!" This is so heartbreaking and emotionally sad to watch!!! Great video though and very well done but so heartbreaking too. 💔
@radhikarajesh2312
@radhikarajesh2312 2 года назад
I just love your videos...the theme, quality, music...RIP to all those who died
@gusm5128
@gusm5128 2 года назад
Imagine sitting in your dump truck then see a 120 tonne + jet flying at you .
@titan4110
@titan4110 2 года назад
On the day of the crash of Flight 2605, 8 of the people onboard were missing and considered dead, probably due to the severity of the crash. Three of the recovered bodies were not identified. Also despite the plane crashing into a building which normally has people in it, the truck driver was apparently the only ground fatality. But it has also been reported that two people in the Eastern Airlines building were also killed.
@gm12551
@gm12551 2 года назад
I would agree that the “Mexican officials” covered things up. It’s Mexico. It’s the 70’s. It’s Mexico in the 70’s. And it’s a DC (death plane)-10.
@videodeposu8741
@videodeposu8741 2 года назад
That poor truck driver
@DarkKnightBusa
@DarkKnightBusa 2 года назад
@@videodeposu8741 Unfortunately, hopefully he didn’t know what hit him. /sad pun..☹️
@daveshondel5108
@daveshondel5108 2 года назад
I remember flying into Osaka Japan (KIX) from LAX on Northwest Orient Airlines back in 1981. As an employee of the airline I was allowed to fly in the jumpseat because I was on a maintenance flight on a must fly basis and the entire ship was oversold. we had a ship (N610US) in Osaka with a hydraulic failure and I was to join the rest of the special NWA maintenance crew. I noticed two things, the landing crew was extremely tired and somewhat disoriented because of the weather challenges . They forgot to ask permission to land from the tower , and the auto brakes failed upon touchdown for some reason. In aviation it's not just one big thing that causes catastrophic death and destruction it is however one little thing after the other that leads to the end result being apocalyptic. Do used to be an old saying that if you put out all the little fires there will never be a big fire.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 года назад
Sometimes, just a little thing taken for granted at the wrong time can lead to tragedy.
@thebiggerbyte5991
@thebiggerbyte5991 2 года назад
It is so good that we learn valuable lessons from such incidents and as a result, aviation becomes ever safer. But it is also so sad that such disasters happen in the first place - especially when they could have been so easily prevented.
@leem8588
@leem8588 2 года назад
The last recording was.. terrifying.
@andrewphillips6563
@andrewphillips6563 2 года назад
Sir - I've watched every one of your videos and always look forward to the next one you produce. I've seen how your technique just keeps getting better and better and I salute you for the time, energy, and research you use to create these detailed and very respectful videos. I was wondering if you would consider making a video in the future that details the April 1973 mid-air collision between a NASA Convair 990 and a P-3 Orion in California. Thanks for considering this, and thank you for your superb channel.
@tonygorilla8928
@tonygorilla8928 2 года назад
The last recording is horrific.
@christopherweise438
@christopherweise438 2 года назад
Tony Gorilla - Even thought they fought til the end. Their voices told me they knew their lives were about to end. Horrific is right. We heard literally their last sounds as human beings.
@gaztastic
@gaztastic 2 года назад
Another great video. I am INSPIRED by you to make my channel into something as great as this. Rest in Peace to those who died, May the Souls who lost find peace, and may aviation become greater everyday. Thank you, TFC, for these amazing and well made videos over the years. [EDIT] I'm currently writing a script for an episode of the Uberlingen Midair Collision, will be released before next year!
@georgeralph8031
@georgeralph8031 2 года назад
It's the embodiment of the old adage: "A long walk, off a short pier...".
@mikegreen6282
@mikegreen6282 2 года назад
Excellent account and production, once again. I was glued to it the entire time. So very sad these two situations. Mistakes happen, we are all human. Unfortunately we don’t always adequately predict the safety nets we need in place until it is too late. As a light aircraft pilot, I was taught to use the runway identifier always. For the comair flight, I was surprised that the taxi instructions did not include “cross runway 26…”. I gather that this was implemented after this accident. Sympathy to all involved.
@videodeposu8741
@videodeposu8741 2 года назад
People makee mistakes but this one is deadly.
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 2 года назад
Seems to me that it would be easy to install a green an red signal with the flight number along the taxiways so that a plane couldn't mistake the wrong runway. All a plane would have to do is follow the green signs with their flight number on it. If their number was red, they'd just hold at that position. An LED sign board wouldn't be too expensive.
@mariancounsellor
@mariancounsellor 2 года назад
Now this was a video I wish I hadn’t watched. I wasn’t expecting that at all. So eerie listening to the pilots and a few moments later, the crash. Imagine starting your everyday routine and not knowing it will be your last day on earth. I hope the first officer receives therapy for PTSD and survivor’s guilt if he has it.
@mohammedaghadi6476
@mohammedaghadi6476 2 года назад
It’s midnight in INDIA but your video is more important then sleep! What an amazing video, absolutely loved it!
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 2 года назад
WIth respect to the Comair 191 crash, not part of the CVR here was the FO mentioning that he had landed at the airport earlier, and found some of the lighting INOP (not operational), and thus set up a bias for the crew to not become alarmed when they saw no runway lighting. It was clearly a crew mistake since ALL of the lighting had been turned off, including runway centerline, edge lighting, end lights, etc. The airport had turned all of the lighting off to clearly indicate the runway was not in use. By contrast, runway 22, clearly visible to the pilots, was fully lit. The NTSB actually taxied another Comair plane of same type in the same night conditions and found the runway they took off from, 26, was clearly marked and that inattention and bias to expect "problems with the lighting" had caused them to accept the incorrect runway. The other factor was the tower controller not monitoring the plane's take off, which they are not required to do. It was a clear night, and the controller saw that the 26 runway was all dark, and the 22 runway was lit up, so it didn't occur to them that the aircraft would attempt to take off on the incorrect runway. What has changed since 2006? Actually quite a bit. This and other accidents have caused many airports to refurbish their signage and taxi/runway markings. In addition, GPS and in-cockpit displays of the airport with taxi and runways with the location of both the aircraft, and other aircraft as well are standard or becoming standard on larger/commercial aircraft. Finally, the FAA has (fairly recently) been instituting procedures designed to reduce "runway incursions" or multiple aircraft using the same runway at the same time. This involves requiring all aircraft to positively read back the runway assignments to the ground controllers, although to be fair, many pilots think this is more to the point of having the pilots get the runway assignments on tape to relieve the FAA and the controllers of legal responsibility. What else could be done? There are still a large number of aircraft without these kinds of electronic aids. Although it is very expensive to have them installed in the airplane (due to many factors), the now very common combination of a GPS with a tablet computer or similar gives a reasonable cost solution, so it will be seen if this significantly reduces accidents (for all aircraft types).
@iconicshrubbery
@iconicshrubbery 2 года назад
Great Scott! Good to know these human errors are being made less likely by these new steps.
@DarkKnightBusa
@DarkKnightBusa 2 года назад
@@iconicshrubbery Make like a tree and get outta here.
@karenkramer3760
@karenkramer3760 2 года назад
You explained that so well. Thank you!
@User31129
@User31129 2 года назад
6:15 Its like I'm watching a horror movie and they're walking into the enemy's trap..."NOOOOO DONT!"
@anik1860
@anik1860 2 года назад
I have heard the 2nd CVR before as well and cant agree more it is THE most horrifying CVR ever in aviation history, only just before the CVR of JAL 123. From their voices you can feel what "at the face of death" sounds and seems like. The F/O hadnt given up tbh but the Captain seems he had!
@akira808state4
@akira808state4 2 года назад
I think I remember these a while back. In the first one, they took off from the wrong runway and crashed with the F/O being the only survivor. In the second one, they landed on the wrong runway. They realized their mistake too late, to which nothing could be done. So tragic and hearing the audio from the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) made me very emotional.
@mattd6085
@mattd6085 2 года назад
That's. that's literally the video...
@videodeposu8741
@videodeposu8741 2 года назад
Terrifying
@justanotherviewer4821
@justanotherviewer4821 2 года назад
you watched the video then? lol
@biker994
@biker994 2 года назад
Dude you are amazing. Great attention to detail. Your channel is going places.
@jiaconis
@jiaconis 2 года назад
The survival of many people is written with the blood of the dead!! RIP to all whom contributed to increased safety measures of today.,,. Thanks to TFC for another outstanding video presentation l!!
@eastbow6053
@eastbow6053 2 года назад
"The survival of many people is written with the blood of the dead" well isnt that literally the story of humanity and all the other species on this god forsaken planet
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 2 года назад
I have long wondered why each & every runway is not REQUIRED to be marked with a brightly lit large Day & Night # on both ends. As opposed to small signs or pavement markings which wear off or are easily obscured. This would seen a NO BRAINER, not overly expensive solution to these mishaps. RIP to the 48 Souls, God rest you in His Care....
@mylesflaig148
@mylesflaig148 2 года назад
It reminds me of the concept of working medical doctors when they are interns at hospitals around the clock for several days. And these are health professionals!?! And suppose to administer drugs to people while exhausted? Another NO BRAINER to us lay-persons. Are medical interns still treated this way ?
@loc4725
@loc4725 2 года назад
Incidentally closed runways are supposed to have their heading numbers covered with a "X", although I've seen videos of private pilots ignoring them and attempting to land anyway.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 2 года назад
@@loc4725 Right - makes sense ! In my mind if the lit runway # could change to a big Red ! Or red circle strikeout - visible above aircraft minimums it'd go a long way towards safety. Of course theres no way to insure safety. Even the Mexico City ATC omitting the simple 2 word 'Sidestep Approach' was contributory to confusion.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 2 года назад
The runways ARE lit, and both runway 26 (the incorrect runway) and runway 22 (the correct runway) were so lit. Runway 26 had its lighting turned OFF, because it was not in use, and runway 22 was still lit, because it was in use. If runway 26 were lit, they still would have died. The runway was too short for such a large aircraft.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 2 года назад
@@loc4725 No, you are talking about runways that are permanently closed. The "X" would have to be painted on the runway, or (in modern times), there is actually a truck carrying a lit "X" that drives onto the inactive runway. In any case, this runway was not permanently closed, and so they turned the lighting on it OFF, which was appropriate.
@mikebel74
@mikebel74 2 года назад
Yikes. Haunting stuff. I knew about these incidents, but hearing the last words....brings it to another level. RIP, all who perished.
@jamesunger8433
@jamesunger8433 2 года назад
three big mistakes I noticed one is the pilots did not cross runway 26 and taxi towards the hold short line of 22 as they should have known by looking at the airport chart.... two during taxing they were having a casual conversation which in my opinion should never happen especially during this phase of flight I think they should be completely focused on the task at hand making sure that everything is done correctly once they are actually at cruise and autopilot they can have a few minutes to chit chat but any phase of flight pre-take off take off climb and then descent approach to land landing and taxing need fleet focus... number three during takeoff run they did not notice that their magnetic heading was incorrect the magnetic heading should have been runway heading therefore they should have noticed that their heading was off by 40 degrees and corrected immediately abort take off run immediately.... and of course runway lights.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 2 года назад
I'm sure the flight channel has done this one before? And the Mexican one with that horrific CVR
@Ayeshteni
@Ayeshteni 2 года назад
Yeah, was getting major deja vu. Still, good to watch them again.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 2 года назад
@@Ayeshteni yes I think there was some additional audio on the first one
@ronaldsteele6151
@ronaldsteele6151 2 года назад
Knowing you made a fatal error and too late to recoup the jet has got to be one of the hardest feelings ever. Being the sole survivor had to be the hardest thing to except. Survivors guilt I heard is a mountain to climb wondering why you alone lived. That's one question I hope I never have to answer. With the second one screaming out of fear and for your life in a spot where you are helpless. Seeing your end coming at you at 100+ mph I can't even phantom.
@catscanhavelittleasalami
@catscanhavelittleasalami 2 года назад
The last recording gave me chills.
@robertbarnier45
@robertbarnier45 2 года назад
Beautifully done.
@ron828
@ron828 2 года назад
14:06 Never heard anything like this before in my life. May Heaven protect these precious souls.
@davedennis6042
@davedennis6042 2 года назад
I had heard those cockpit recordings before of 2605. Terrifying to hear a person right before they are killed. I don't understand why they were not more careful as they approached to get it right (literally). With the technology we have now, why can't we have large red exes on the closed runways? Like on the ends?
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 2 года назад
This was atrocious bad luck mixed with a slightly lax crew for the first accident. I so feel for them, as we all have days like that...Just they don't quite end in such tragedy. A few extra feet was all they needed. Edit: Excellent quality video.
@aarondynamics1311
@aarondynamics1311 2 года назад
I especially feel for the FO in the first accident. Not only did he suffer life changing injuries but he also has to live the rest of his life knowing he made a mistake that ended up killing 49 people. I'd much rather die in the accident
@dianna1976
@dianna1976 2 года назад
@@aarondynamics1311 Sadly I was a little relieved he sustained brain damage, he might not know or remember anything.
@aarondynamics1311
@aarondynamics1311 2 года назад
@@dianna1976 Yeah I have since read the Wikipedia article and he doesn't remember anything about the crash, which makes it a bit better
@bluefishbeagle1
@bluefishbeagle1 2 года назад
The difference between runway 26 and 22 is 40 degrees, that's big however the two runways and taxiways merge at one end or used too. Before this accident I was flying a CRJ out of LEX regularly. One an early predawn departure we taxied out my F/O said stop we are lining up on the wrong runway!. I set the brakes told the tower we needed a minute and got the chart out and we both confirmed we were on the correct runway (the long one). The F/O after departure apologized for his confusion, I told him no apology necessary he called out what he thought was my error and that was his job. Until we both agreed on which runway to use we were not going anywhere. LEX after this crash redesigned the taxiways so that it would be much harder if not impossible to line up on the wrong runway. if you look at the taxi diagram now it is not the same as when this crash occurred. This is the first time I've heard the cockpit tape, it appears to me they were not conducting the departure in a professional manner. The reason the runway lights were off was to keep anyone from mistaking it for the longer active runway. The crew missed this and took off on an unlit runway, that should have gotten their attention even before they advanced the power levers. If they had recognized their mistake halfway down the runway or later they would not have been able to stop they could have rotated a bit earlier, although below normal rotation speed the CRJ 200 would have flown and cleared the approach light extensions. Hitting the extensions is what brought them down. My sincerest sympathies to the families, we are all human the lessons learned from the accident no doubt has saved lives.
@idancemyassintothepaint7571
@idancemyassintothepaint7571 2 года назад
I mowed the grass at this airport for two years, and I always thought that the runway was unusually short.. wow. Rest in Peace to those that perished.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
Which airport is that
@Trust1878
@Trust1878 2 года назад
Sounds like a lot of grass though.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
@@Trust1878 oh yes
@davidsmolenski9796
@davidsmolenski9796 2 года назад
Singapore 006 is another accident similar to these. 747 collided with construction equipment after trying to takeoff from the wrong runway.
@tat2steven810
@tat2steven810 2 года назад
in typhoon conditons..i was in Taiwan when that happened..tragic!
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
@@tat2steven810 how many died
@tat2steven810
@tat2steven810 2 года назад
@@kirilmihaylov1934 i believe it was 80+...many survived, luckily!
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
@@tat2steven810 I don't know why but most people overestimate themselves quite a lot
@tat2steven810
@tat2steven810 2 года назад
@@kirilmihaylov1934 not sure what you mean🤔
@koreainsincere
@koreainsincere 2 года назад
No excuses on this one. All the clues were there. Jesus, they even had no lights on the runway and still continued the takeoff. Unforgiveable.
@rickyism1576
@rickyism1576 2 года назад
Everyone gets complacent, it's human nature. Even if they aborted takeoff, chances are it was far too late at that point.
@dmytrogubskyi4355
@dmytrogubskyi4355 2 года назад
There is an explanation of why the lighting abnormalities did not raise the sufficient alarm in their minds, which was not mentioned in the video. They were discussing it - the FO was recently landing there and part of the runway’s lighting was inoperative/under maintenance. That could have form the confirmation bias, where the dialog in your head goes like “Why there’s no lights?.. - Oh, the maintenance thing, right”. And then it was too late. It is for us, sitting here, thinking and analyzing, the situation lasts for minutes. And for them it is seconds, with minds busy with lots of different things and tasks.
@chinbosschinboss2484
@chinbosschinboss2484 Год назад
It was really strange to me that part. The thing about flying a plane is, nothing should ever be "wierd." It's not like oh that's wierd the flaps aren't retracting or oh that's wierd the autopilot won't go on or oh that's wierd there are no lights on the runway... NOTHING. SHOULD. EVER. BE. *WIERD*. If something is *WIERD* then something is *WRONG* ATC didn't just forget to turn the lights on the runway ON. They are off because that's NOT THE RUNWAY...
@rxw5520
@rxw5520 Год назад
Statistically if human error can cause something, eventually it probably will. Not having mandatory runway double check or a procedure for double checking runways increased the odds of this happening until it did. It’s nobody’s fault, it’s just math.
@john2k24
@john2k24 11 месяцев назад
@@dmytrogubskyi4355ugh yeah absolutely sounds like a case of confirmation bias. Horrible
@sureshnishtala2887
@sureshnishtala2887 2 года назад
I just cant imagine what went thru their heads after the first impact...RIP to all the lives...
@RyanReznor
@RyanReznor 2 года назад
I've listened to that second CVR from TFC prior vid and another one. That never gets easier to hear...
@OsbornTramain
@OsbornTramain 2 года назад
Every time I hear this over the years (Commair)....I always feel as if the two Pilots have/had some sort of weird affected way of speaking to each other? Like it's pilot code for "how cool are we".
@trainmanbob
@trainmanbob 2 года назад
The voice of the captain before he hit the building sent shivvers down my spine...pure terror!!
@SimonTekConley
@SimonTekConley 2 года назад
I am surprised 17 people survived
@MassDefense
@MassDefense 2 года назад
Hey man. You should take a look at Olympic Airways flight 411 from Athens to New York in 1978. This was an incredible story of human intervention and bravery
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 2 года назад
Excellent as usual - but that DC10 captain...I think you should add a warning that the CVR/ATC recordings could be distressing to hear.
@Eternal_Tech
@Eternal_Tech 2 года назад
This entire channel is "distressing." It is about aircraft crashes after all.
@mph1ish
@mph1ish 2 года назад
I think it's assumed
@scottpatrick8645
@scottpatrick8645 2 года назад
If complacency has a sound, it would be the pilot and FO's voices on Comair 5191 6:01
@thecrowing1989
@thecrowing1989 2 года назад
Is this a re-upload? Great video as always!
@getsmarter5412
@getsmarter5412 2 года назад
I don't understand why any of the channels that have covered this fail to mention that the Capt. and crew first boarded the wrong aircraft, and were just about to fire it up when ground personel pointed out their mistake. I'm sure this affected their situational awareness.
@carolinehoward180
@carolinehoward180 2 года назад
You just get BETTER AND BETTER at these videos!!! This was amazing. So terribly tragic though. To hear those pilots and FE as they can’t get lift is heartbreaking 💔
@kristensorensen2219
@kristensorensen2219 2 года назад
The second brief recap of the confused state of the Captain is also deeply disturbing. This approach was going to be different, at best, doing a sidestep at such a low altitude! This landing approach should not have been attempted except as a low approach to see if it was even possible to safely transition to the right runway. They were unprepared and it showed!
@deborahdoesscrap
@deborahdoesscrap 2 года назад
Oh my heavens, the audio from the cockpit was harrowing and will give me nightmares. I am so sorry for the loss of life. May they all rest in peace.
@secondhalo
@secondhalo 2 года назад
me- terrified of flying also me- binging this entire channel
@Duffsterr
@Duffsterr 2 года назад
The Flight Channel. Rated “R”. Now Playing.
@rafakordaczek3275
@rafakordaczek3275 2 года назад
Those ambient sounds in the cockpit and on the runway are top notch. Even the wind howl make me cold only by hearing it. Great video, as always.
@pilotdave1000
@pilotdave1000 2 года назад
I was saying the same thing until I realized it's 60 degrees in my house right now. turning up the heat now 😆
@timeisnow4116
@timeisnow4116 2 года назад
Captain sounded like someone I’d have a beer with, and I don’t even drink, he was cooler than a fan.
@Blooga_
@Blooga_ 2 года назад
Amazing video as always!!
@alizierny
@alizierny 2 года назад
Please God, let there be no more new videos 🙏
@quill444
@quill444 2 года назад
Moving from one place to another has always involved some risk, but flying is safer than any other means of travel. Accidents are a part of life, and nobody lives forever. Another 350 deaths have occurred just in Michigan from Covid-19, probably after being intubated and all alone for many weeks in most cases. In a nation of 330 million people, perhaps 10,000 are born every day, and as many perish simply due to natural causes. In my opinion, one of the few blessings one could have in life is probably a quick death. - j q t -
@theoph3777
@theoph3777 2 года назад
This accident hits close to home as Lexington is my hometown. I fly GA aircraft and at the time of this accident, my plane was based at KLEX. I remember a few days before this mishap, I too had trouble figuring how to taxi to runway 22 and this was during the daytime. Nevertheless, a lot had to happen for this flight to go wrong. Definitely, a tragedy that still affects the Lexington community.
@KorbinX
@KorbinX 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing. A real shame that is still talked about to this day.
@marifromky
@marifromky 2 года назад
this literally happened just up the road from me in lexington. awful. just awful. and could have 100% been avoided. :(
@marifromky
@marifromky 2 года назад
the airport bought the property where the plane crashed and extended that particular runway way way out.
@titan4110
@titan4110 2 года назад
Which one is 'this' tho.
@maxb4074
@maxb4074 2 года назад
@@titan4110 the lady said lexington, which is not in Mexico
@titan4110
@titan4110 2 года назад
@@maxb4074 that wasnt there when I wrote that.
@martinc.720
@martinc.720 2 года назад
As opposed to happening figuratively?
@heynowheynow-tk6tk
@heynowheynow-tk6tk 2 года назад
Hearing their final words is so chilling rip everyone onboard
@StonewallTitlow
@StonewallTitlow 2 года назад
Imagine actually having been by Lexington Airport, which I have. Really surprised that this even happened.
@CoastalAutoReactionCAR
@CoastalAutoReactionCAR 2 года назад
So well done! Just amazing especially how you have doing similar flights years apart!! Amazing work my friend! From One RU-vidr to another bravo!! Thank You!
@lenny108
@lenny108 2 года назад
At the beginning of aviation plane crashes were 90% caused by material defect. Today this is vice versa. According to the NTSB investigations performed into air accidents, over 88 percent of all chartered plane crashes are attributed, at least in part, to pilot error. In private or general aviation, loss of aircraft control by the pilot is the number one cause of plane and helicopter crashes.
@dezznutz3743
@dezznutz3743 2 года назад
Cause and effect. Dangerous planes make safe pilots. Safe planes make dangerous pilots. Tis the curse of technology.
@PRH123
@PRH123 2 года назад
Reading NTSB reports, especially for small aircraft, they almost always cite pilots failure to maintain control as the primary reason, regardless of what happened. Sometimes it sounds really absurd, “pilot failed to maintain control, a contributing factor was the failure of the engine and the vertical tail separating from the aircraft”
@Elias-xy9kc
@Elias-xy9kc 2 года назад
I think that if any body wants to become a pilot, he should watch the flight channel! I really mean it, this amazing channel teaches you many things, and makes you learn from mistakes! Kudos to the owner of the channel!
@Thepokemonguy565
@Thepokemonguy565 2 года назад
God bless 🙏 the pilots and the crew on board 🙏🙏🙏
@alastairbarkley6572
@alastairbarkley6572 2 года назад
The only survivor was the man at the controls - and he, maimed and crippled? What horrendous guilt. Life is cruel sometimes...
@Brendan-Black
@Brendan-Black 2 года назад
"strucks" 😆 Great vid as usual, TFC.
@mrofnocnon
@mrofnocnon 2 года назад
Really sad, RIP to all.
@jimmymulkern8227
@jimmymulkern8227 2 года назад
Chilling. I don’t know WHY I keep playing the ending over and over listening to those pilots. I’m probably wrong but at the 4:11-4:12 mark it sounds like the pilot screams “brace for impact “
@billspruce8368
@billspruce8368 2 года назад
Great videos... I have a question and forgive my potential ignorance.. in the first case, could it have been possible at a small airport, with little traffic that early in the AM, for the tower to not have visually noticed the aircraft was lined up at the wrong runway? Not laying blame... just asking if it's crazy to have expected at all, ever... or is the answer, it could have been possible and this could have been averted but would have been a lucky chance?
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 2 года назад
Its a good question. The controller is not required to observe the takeoff. In this particular case, it was a clear night and the controller saw that the inactive runway 26 was all dark (because it was inactive) and the proper runway, 22, was lit. It didn't occur to him that the aircraft would have tried to use the dark runway.
@terywetherlow7970
@terywetherlow7970 2 года назад
Human error is a multitude of possibilities. "Drunk while flying" was the last law in drinking changed....I believe!
@stephanherrneder2232
@stephanherrneder2232 2 года назад
I loved the vid thank you so much for your incredible redaction from this incident !!
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota 2 года назад
I’ve said it many times. This channel is always very great. Graphics are awesome and the form factor for broadcast is amazing. It’s not a Walt Disney production but this is truly amazing. My heart goes out to all involved in any accident, but these stories need to be recounted and remembered. Great work!!
@piercehawke8021
@piercehawke8021 2 года назад
Disney or not; the whole video's def a well done production, especially the virtual reality visuals.
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota 2 года назад
@@piercehawke8021 agreed. Just saying very well made.
@pilotlancegameryt7123
@pilotlancegameryt7123 2 года назад
New video dude! Keep up on that good work!
@AC-db4ek
@AC-db4ek 2 года назад
I don't know why, but I enjoy watching these videos with popcorn and diet coke
@cynthiadavid5282
@cynthiadavid5282 2 года назад
The videos are great sad these situations happen
@greymark420
@greymark420 2 года назад
A totally unavoidable accident flight 5191. Interesting that other F/O stated the Captain went by the book, not this time. Those CVR's are really harrowing. RIP to all.
@zyglo9826
@zyglo9826 19 дней назад
I recommend you read the NTSB report on Comair 5191. This crash was officially blamed on pilot error, and the pilots undeniably were to blame. But like many crashes, it was a ‘perfect storm’ of circumstances that combined to set the stage for disaster. Pilot inattention to detail, understaffed tower, confusing runway/taxiway layout, darkness, poor local procedures, inadequate safeguards built into airline operating procedures. If you read the NTSB report and look at the runway diagram, it’s no wonder they got confused.
@ruwansri6544
@ruwansri6544 2 года назад
You had made these 2 accidents in separate videos in the previous time. But it was nice to see both together at once again. And im your older lovely fan❤️😊
@lex1945
@lex1945 2 года назад
The screams of the pilots on the cvr were heart breaking.
@KONAMAN100
@KONAMAN100 2 года назад
Sickening
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
@@KONAMAN100 are they real
@KONAMAN100
@KONAMAN100 2 года назад
@@kirilmihaylov1934 yes... I think so
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад
@@KONAMAN100 people overestimate themselves quite a lot ...and when they do they die
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