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This is my town. My sister was murdered when I was young. Its brutal on these streets.... I hope they cover Agnew Johnston in this one. I am a white man. I can tell you FOR SURE this place has rampant systemic racism towards our Nishnawbe brothers and sisters. Hopefully some more exposure will lead to positive change.

I live in Thunder Bay. I’m English/Italian. But I have been mistaken for being Ojibway my whole life. I look more Aboriginal than most people from our local reserves. Every First Nation person I meet asks me what reserve I’m from. Therefore, I can confirm the racism. I was called a Bogan and picked on as a youth because people thought I was “native”. I left TBay after high school to get away from racisms. Went back at 35 and since then (10 years now) the racism is so thick that it caused me to be depressed and feel like the city is hopeless despite its good qualities. Looking “native” and not being First Nation has given me an opportunity to see both sides of the racism here. People who know my heritage will be racist around me about “natives”, people who think I’m “native” will be racist towards me, and people in between are either defeated by the toxic racist culture or are angry. Toxic all around effects of racism. Thanks for doing the doc and I can’t wait to watch it!

I have lived in Thunder Bay for my whole life. I am a white women from a middle class family and the racism I have witnessed towards the natives here from the police in this city is UTTERLY DISGUSTING. Beyond belief to be honest. So glad to see to see this documentary is coming out.

Thank you Ryan and thank you Crave for making this.

I'm excited but anxious. I am an Anishinabekwe; born and raised in Thunder Bay. I've encountered Racism firsthand here in Thunder Bay and Across Northern Ontario. Just a few weeks ago, in an anonymous letter to residents of Ignace, I was referred to as a "Squaw"- it went on a rant about Indigenous people in the most disgusting, hateful manner. ANONYMOUS, mind you. Miigwetch for creating this documentary special. It is so very very REAL. Miigwetch

It will be interesting if they dare touch on things from more than one side. Hopefully this leads to more resources to surrounding areas to provide help to those who need it. So many people are falling through the cracks, end up in Thunder Bay and overwhelm it's resources.

I look forward to see this I’ve live in Thunder Bay all my life I’m in my mid 40s and have wondered why certain things get sweep under the rug. There are thing that should be brought to light then maybe things will change here.

Didn’t expect to see a documentary on Crave about how horrible my city is but I’m not surprised lol

This is an excellent documentary. Just riveting and gut wrenching. It’s our Canadian wake up call.

Watched the first 2 episodes last night, excellent work. It's sad how the Indigenous are treated in Thunder Bay. The incompetence and or unwillingness to investigate properly by Thunder Bay Police is sickening.

What about the family in town who wasn't allowed to identify their son/brother when he passed. Rybeck identified the body. The family wasn't allowed to see the body at the funeral home either. 14 years ago this summer.

Thunder Bay is my home, i am part native but don’t look it and i can tell you there is systemic racism here. See, when you don’t look native people feel a lot more comfortable speaking derogatory about native people in front of you and to you. I have heard some pretty brutal comments, many from cab drivers. The racism here is quite prevalent, through all walks of life. The real problem is that police have power over peoples actions and lives and there is a lot of racism in the police department. Not all the cops are bad but enough. My ex-husband was arrested once, he is part native and looks it. He was inside a bar and they came in and arrested him for something that happened earlier and elsewhere, he went outside with them and was handcuffed but would not get into the cruiser because they would not tell him why he was under arrest so they kept kicking him in the back of his thighs. He wasn’t violent, he just stood against the cruiser and would not get in until they told him why he was under arrest. So they pepper sprayed him. Then he got in the cruiser, and once inside it he asked for their badge numbers they laughed and said “ i’m number “ and “i’m number 2”. He never made a complaint because he felt there was no point. This is really a minor thing compared to many other stories to be honest but it doesn’t feel minor when it’s someone you care about. Then my husband and i and our children had rented a house from my parents, we moved out of town for a year then came back. A native man had rented the house while we were gone, we heard he sold drugs but he was nice enough and never gave my parents any problems so who cares. One night my husband was watching a movie in the living room, the younger kids were sleeping, and i was stripping old wallpaper from one of the bedrooms. Suddenly there was pounding at the door, it was the police, we sat quietly and ignored it, my husband wanted nothing to do with them after the last time he had been arrested by them. We did not realize the back door was unlocked and they came right in through there and tried to say they received a call about a woman screaming for help out the door or window or something. It was a complete fabrication. I told them so and they were very insistent that they received a report of a woman screaming for help. Then just 2 or 3 minutes later an undercover officer came in, i knew he was undercover because he had long greasy hair and a bunch of tattoos and he came up to me and said “where’s A--- M---?” This was the native man that had lived there when we were out if town. I told them i had no idea where he was, which i didn’t, he had moved out the month before and we moved back in. Funny how they supposedly received a call about a woman screaming for help but came in looking for a suspected drug dealer. So they made up a story or had someone falsely call in with this made up story about a woman screaming for help so they could have an excuse to come inside our home without a warrant to arrest a native man they believed was selling drugs. Nice one, right?

Can't wait to watch this! As woman and single mother who lived in Thunder Bay, Ont., I can't tell you how many times I was followed when alone. Either when I lived on Bethune St. or Simpson St. It got really scary when my neighbors daughter was at my door naked, saying someone was trying to rape her. She didn't want the police called because of others she new who she didn't see again after they were. Proud that someone is finally taking a deep dive into Thunder Bay and what happens there.

Thank you and Crave. Tbay is something else.

Heartbroken. My heart sank and my eyes opened even more. As a white male living in Ontario, I cannot begin to imagine the horror of living under the shadow of blatant genocide of my friends, family, community members and colleagues. I just finished the doc. Thank-you very much for showcasing the grim reality of living in Canada as a minority. A must watch. Should be shown in high schools everywhere. Peace. Love. Respect.

It's about time! Miigwetch Ryan, aseema down & prayers up for you, your family & everyone watching this documentary, especially for the family & friends of those who were taken too soon! 💜

I stayed in Thunderbay for about 1 month visiting my girlfriend who is a foreign exchange student at lakehead university. I noticed native people there all looked so depressed and in a bad mood all the time. All in all I hope as time goes by the city and the people will heal. The city is mostly filled with foreign exchange students filling the colleges.

I live here and the amount of death and sadness here is immense I lost 4 people 1 was my brothers freind I went to school with and the other 3 I was freinds with, all the deaths were unnatural, I made a song about it called loosening my head, but it’s sad to say this is our reality I’m so glad people in our town are wakeing up and standing up to the discrimination, the hurt, and pain, and uniteing together

I myself am half indigenous. I'm white presenting and moved from southern Ontario to thunder bay 7 years ago. The racism in this city is unbelievable until you experience it. As white presenting I see how people actually talk about the indigenous population. They think I'm white and they assume I agree with them

I'm from TBay...I got out. That place is not only corrupt, but vicious. Everyone who grew up there in 80's-90's-00's knows that. The police will come after you if have any record with them, and maliciously attack you (and your family) if they think you did something wrong. I was ripped out of my house at 3a.m , 2 days after baby was born...tired, watching gameshow network with no clothes on...slammed into a snowbank, cuffed and taken to Balmoral for suspicion os stealing navada tickets from Oliver Rd convenience store a few hrs earlier...🤨 I was a known criminal, I did do bad things, I get that. But the cop came to my house and himself id me as the culprit. Had to go to court and i the end, cameras were too shotty to see who it was (wasn't me) but the cop gets off with no problems...

Thunder Bay was a great place to grow up in, friendly, generous and community oriented. We always saw the drunk native sleeping on a corner but they spent most of their time on the reserve so no one cared. In the 1990’s the Federal Govt. rather than fix up northern Indian communities brought them all into Thunder Bay and turned the city into a reservation displacing the long time residents. Muggings and robberies jumped and the police had their hands tied by social justice warriors because 95% of the crime was caused by Indians. You don’t know the history of TB so don’t criticize before you learn. It is so ugly now that I have not even visited in 15 years and I love my home town and always believed I would finish my life there just like my ancestors.

Wow. Fabulous. Oh the stories I could tell. I’ll be watching this.

Yes, I am looking forward to watching this. My hometown. I'm a 70 year old white woman, been all over Canada and I have to say Thunder Bay is up there in the top ten most racist cities in Canada. Systemic racism through the whole system....I could tell you some stories about the things I have witnessed. I always try to be a witness and an advocate when I see interactions between the police/first responders/businesses and indigenous peoples because I am sick and tired of it being normalized. It's NOT okay!!!

I've been trying to tell everyone........

My girl is from Thunderbay. She is a very traumatized woman

I will have to watch this!

I will watch, looks very interesting. I hope that you look at the underlying issues that have created this situation.

This comment section is about to get wild.

my uncle who was only 14 got murdered here. he was also indigenous.

2:15 looking forward to this.

Imagine how many bodies they would find if they drained the cam river

Look forward to it. I've lived in T-Bay for over a decade. Curious what you have to say about the city and the police, in addition to the indigenous concerns.

Well done, Leslie. Look forward to seeing it.

I've lived in tbay all my life, in my profession I deal with the worst of the worst, and I deal with the police quite often. There is plenty of racism in this town I experience it every day. I've been attacked on several occasions because I didn't have a cigarette to give away. Its awful. Race aside....I'd say the majority of violent crime in this city is criminals killing other criminals. The drug problem is so bad you can't even take your dogs for a walk, or your kids to the park without worrying about all of the needles littered all over.

I went to high school in thunder bay because I had no choice. We have no high schools in the reserves in northern Ontario. Because of that, so many youth 13-18 have no choice to leave their family & homes behind all to get education. During my time in thunder bay, I've been raped, a victim of racism multiple times, police brutality, a starlight tour, attacked for the color of my skin. All of this led up to me dropping out of high school because it was too much. Thunder bay has so many issues that are never fixed. Most of which are the thunder bay police. So many of my peers were too afraid to call the police when they needed help because they were scared to be thrown into the river. There were so many talks going around that the police were the ones throwing all the youth in the rivers & I believe that. During my starlight tour the police taunted me about leaving me in the middle of nowhere or just throwing me in the lake & that nobody would care. I was fortunate enough to find shelter & have someone come pick me up. I honestly believe the thunder bay police have everything to do with all the deaths of the indigenous youth that went to MY high school.

OOOoo thunder bay. Boogieman Bay

On my way to crave tv now to watch this

Good job Ryan!

This looks amazing!

Grew up In tbay living in Minnesota wish yall would release it on an American platform or at least make it available for rent on prime or somt

The video says ot all Good work

I want to show this in my class. But Crave is blocked. Please help

In the early 2000's there used to be this tall slim native women that walked past my place on College and Tupper every day and we would occasionally say hello. One day she never walked pass again. Days later I read in the news they found her dead body outside of town (she didn't own a vehicle) in the middle of a logging road. The murderer never even tried to conceal their crime. Foul play was suspected" was all the article read. To this day nothing ever came of this murder and I have always wondered what happened to her case.

I am from thunder bay. I have lost faith in police 11 years ago when they allowed an indigenous woman to literally be be****ten and r***ed outside my bedroom window and i called desperately for hours. Til they finally asked"are they indigenous" and "if you call one more time we are charging you with misuse of 911" i couldn't leave the apartment because at the time my daughter was a newborn. I do not know to this day if the woman is dead or alive because the predator dragged her lifeless body across the park.

Good work!

my birth home… i hate it there so much… my brother was killed outside the theatre.. my fav place that turned into the place i hate the most

Nice to see my beautiful hometown getting the documentary treatment it so richly deserves. Looking forward to the stink the local cops will throw about "misrepresentation" and "unfair portrayal."

I was tired and my new shoes were pinching my toes and I decided to take a smoke break and drink of water at the river Bridge. Not even 10 minutes later, 2 cops with their gloves on came and asked me what did I think I was doing here. They came and all but accosted me. I saw the old white lady there off to the side...she didn't us people around her home...again I was in public area walkway.. the 2 cops told me I had to move on or I would be taken in charged with trespassing. I was alone and felt afraid. I left knowing that if I stood up for myself I would be beaten or charged for something. I had kids at home...this was in the afternoon. I was sober. This is just one of the many, many times I encountered racism.

This is going to be something to watch. Thunder bay police will always be in the spotlight. They can't hide. They need to build up a relationship between the natives and treat us as equal.

If they can get Stacy DeBungee...they can get anyone.

My hometown, 19yrs lived there, moved nd probably never Move back, im 34 now. Aboriginal/irish.. crazy city indeed..

Thank you for shining a light. I had no idea. If I can help - reach out.

Best, honest response from Reddit I've seen; "I grew up in Thunder Bay. Influx of drug addicts and petty criminals has been relentless. Every time I go back to visit I'm more and more appalled. It's become a dumping ground for every reserve's problem cases from across northwestern Ontario."

I live in thunderbay as a air cadet and I never new they were making a tv show about thunderbay.

If you cared about spreading the message this would be a free watch

I witnessed a police officer pass around his phone with pictures of a deceased indigenous youth at a Christmas dinner. As the only indigenous person in that house at the time I felt completely disgusted and afraid to speak up. This incident haunts me to this day... 😢

Bring justice to my brethren and sisters!

Police Chief’s dropping one after the other. There’s plenty of stories from our hometown that will keep the campfire going. It’s honestly really weird to see a tv series about Thunder Bay. I knew there was something wrong but always jumped it to me being racially divided.

I don’t understand why we would have racism here in Canada, the most multicultural place I know of. We are all the same on the inside.

and behold the truth shall set you free..

It's not just natives going missing, I've had white friends go missing in this city too, and my cousin was murked in this city, I've been beaten many times for speaking out, this city is just terrible in general, it's a terrible city.

Went to watch this as I thought it was comjng out today. And the trailer on crave, is all French. When is the actual release?

Man i lived here for like 3 or 2 years not good my windows kept on gettin smashed this was like in November

I’m from the murder capital where they murder for capital

Yesss ❤

What a joke. Complete bias

I lived in Thunder Bay for a few years. Very sad what has happened to this city.

So happy to see others talking about this problem. I lived in Tbay for 3 years on Syndicate Ave. and experienced a lot of tragedy and racism. I am working on a music video for a song I released about this problem. Until then, here is the lyric video… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TlFSGj2ldMM.html

We have to pay to watch it?

It’s like Oshawa Ontario ( east of Toronto)

My hometown it's brutal here

What about the unsolved missing and mysteriously youth suicides. Lack of investigations of young female caucasians. hope this shows insight to human trafficing and drug problems

Will there be audio description? Will both French and English descriptions be performed by real humans, or by robots? I'm asking, because whenever there's a French AD on Crave, 90% are "performed" by robot with sentences sometimes playing over each other, some words not being translated, and with obvious factual mistakes describing the opposite of what is happening on screen. 😬🙏🙏🙏 (I intend to watch *Thunder Bay.)*

Thunder Bay as if

Wowww Tbay kid here born and raised we’ve had the highest murder rate in the country for awhile now. Mean out here for sure

thunder bay making the breakthrough as the murder capital

I can’t wait to see this. I’m from Thunder Bay and as a white man I have never had a problem with any natives, on the contrary. I grew up with them in a smaller northern Ontario town , went to Catholic school with them, played hockey and use to go to the reservation to play all the time when I was a kid and never had any problems whatsoever and the natives never had any problems with white people in town but that was a very different time. Alcohol and drugs in my opinion are behind the vast majority of these murders. I see a’lot of native men intoxicated and high frequently and during the day and it breaks my heart. Violence is very prevalent in these indigenous social circles, especially when alcohol and drugs are ubiquitous. The Thunder Bay police? Cover up? Racism? I don’t know about any of that and couldn’t make a objective opinion on the matter. My advice for a good life is don’t drink, don’t do drugs and believe unto the Lord Jesus Christ and everything else will taken care of itself. God bless our native brothers and sisters and let justice be done.

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Ya geez my dad should be on this show. He did not do anything to the cops but they beat him up till he could not move, I’m glad he’s alive but nothing was done just a cover up

I;ve lived here for 55 years and it was a nice city to live in at one time. I remember being able to go out and walk somewhere after 6pm. There have been a lot of changes here and most weren't for the better. Seems to me if you hate this city so much you might want to move somewhere else. Nobody is holding you here, I mean it's just common sense.

Maybe elders should teach their youth to not engage with alcohol, drugs, crime, or those who do, when they move there. The "innocent victim" is rare in that city.

Well this is interesting. I’m from a small town near tbay. Played hockey for the AAA Kings team for 2 years there going to highschool aswell. It’ll be interesting to see a what this show has to say.

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Ever hear of the Starlight tours in Saskatoon? Police loved killing natives.

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If they were white kids, could you imagine the outcry😢 he’s not wrong tho

Hidden racism is huge in TB a lot of narcissism runs through it's people.

Really only on crave not everyone has it why not RU-vid too and other platforms

running around w a magnifying glass looking for misgivings...comes away with a masterpiece

The issue here is systematic racism which has little To do with the Thunder Bay Police Department. However the people who hide behind the scenes; like Trudeau and his henchman and the rest of the snake politicians , they want you to believe it’s a policing issue. They are picking on Thunder Bay specifically so they can distract us all from what I believe the real issue is and that stems back to the residential schools. If you pay attention to what happens in the states whenever their governments want to bring in new legislation they generally find a targeted state to pick on and they try to provoke a race war. It’s generally terrorist groups like BLM and Antifa that are in the centre of it all. Well this is what they do in Canada they make it a race issue using the native people. There is no doubt our media and newspapers and activist here domestically create divide amongst white people and natives but for someone who grew up in the area I can tell you racism isn’t the main issue here and far from it. People are generally too busy to be racist. I am not denying that it exist , it does but that’s not why people are turning up dead and that’s what this documentary is trying to tell us. It’s false! Natives have been deprived of normal society since the residential schools. The system changed for them and they were basically forced to live in the back country of any civilized community and for decades the government (not the police) did a good job and educating Canadian Europeans that natives were bad people and different than the rest. But to blame the under staffed and paid thunder bay police for the governments issue is nothing more than an attempt to distract you from what is truly happening and that’s systematic racism to the top levels of our government. It’s easy to blame the police they are out there in their fancy decked out cars and tactical uniforms that resembles a working arm of the government but most cops are too over worked to be strategically working against indigenous people and too under staffed in their specialized units to be thoroughly investigating things properly. The chief and his management group all follow orders from the top chain which is the mayor who follows orders from the provincial government (essentially) and I can ensure you all decisions reach the top of the food chain and the answer gets passed down again. I find it funny how the chief and mayor get wrapped into this but no one above them. Again just talking heads having to jump on the sword to save face of the upper echelon of the government. This is typical. It’s all smoke and mirrors though and this is why you never see charges stick - it’s because they are generally fabricated and allegations that hold no evidence. It’s not because they are protected it’s simply because they are innocent. They are only charged for propaganda purposes. They want to sell you a lie and distract you. It’s unfortunate that people actually bye what they are selling and some go out of their way to create documentaries on it with very little truth. The cops aren’t choosing not to investigate a death properly. They are simply just over worked and under staff. I’m not doubting that some of them are taking short cuts and probably could be doing better but I don’t think this is because they are racist but that’s what they want to sell you. It’s because they are burnt out under laid and over worked. They are not supported with what they need by our government. This is done on purpose because the people who make these decisions to give cops more money and man power refuse to do it so these other problems occur and once they occur the same people can turn around and blame the police. I know it’s confusing but this is how it works. The facts are : These deaths are in a lot of cases suicides and misadventures. That’s the truth. There isn’t serial killers drawling them it’s a broken system that’s killing these people. They are depressed because they have had all their traditions stripped from them by our government and left to survive on their own. They are fed money to pay them off to keep them quiet but by giving them money it’s made them dependent on the government. This is exactly what they want to do to all of us now like Klause Schwab says “you will have nothing and be happy”. The majority them are deprived from alcohol as a lot live in remote communities that don’t allow drinking. When they come to Thunder Bay either on a court order or for shopping and/CLE they generally use their government paycheques to get liquor and then find themselves up to no good once intoxicated. The crime rate is currently spiking because while these sort of documentaries are destracting you and your local news channels are pulling the curtain over your eyes. The government is making it easy for the black street gangs from Toronto to sneak into the city to traffic young girls and sell drugs. It’s a port city therefore it will always be a city that holds interest to the mafia other organized crime groups and our corrupted government. They are mostly all on the same team. The problem is bigger just think outside the box and don’t allow yourself to get distracted by everyone who is trying to earn a buck off this false narrative!

My late brother Kyle morrisseau was found in the river while attending high school he had a bright future ahead of him and now my father life is gone while visiting tbunderbay not to long ago

Oh fuck here we go. Why don't you highlight the native on native crime which is a way larger problem in the area? No just highlight specifics to try to further your narrative that does t exist.

I hate the constant fear of living here. I have protection around me just in case which I shouldn't have to. The police have been a very bad staple in this city for a long time. Recently, I went to them for something and they refused to do anything. They wonder why people take the law into their own hands. OPP should replace the Thunder Bay Police and maybe, things will be better. The racism in this town is awful

Grew up and raised here, stay away from here. You don't want to live here and if you think "but this is a great place" its great on the surface.

Good old tbay

Never a good thing to sweep anything under the rug glad some shits being said but this comment section makes t-bay sound like t-rac 😂

Holy fuck. I’m going here for a hockey tourney and I guess ima be slaughtered

It's a shame the Tbay racists who need to see this never will. But they'll cry about, I guarantee it! Look no further than this comment section.

Fun fact: The “white girl cops” series is based on my interactions with Thunder Bay police and immigration at pigeon river.

I’ll never forgive you for what you did to my sister Ryan. When I FIND YOU there’s going to be an accounting for it.