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Crawford Jamieson argues in proposition for gay parents to be given the right to raise children.
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First year student Crawford Jamieson argues in proposition for gay couples to be able to raise children.
Filmed on Thursday 17th January
ABOUT CRAWFORD JAMIESON:
First year theology student.
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@EffindiK
@EffindiK 11 лет назад
If a kid being raised by gay parents will be gay,what happen to me?I was raised by a heterosexual family,but i'm not even straight.
@TheEthiopian1987
@TheEthiopian1987 4 года назад
My only question is: Are you happy? If so then be happy as long as you do not cause physical harm to others is perfectly fine. Personally I am a straight guy, but everybody deserves to be happy and loved.
@typingcat
@typingcat 4 года назад
It is probably about likelihood. I do not know if it is statistically backed up or not, but if it is not, then show the statistics to counter-argue that. Showing one example to negate the likelihood or tenancy is not a valid argument. That reminds of me of the clip I had seen in which the guest speaker mentioned that statistically children of single-mother family are more likely to be criminals, and some people on the audience got angry saying "I was raised by a single mother but I am not a criminal (therefore your argument is wrong)". That may look emotionally appealing, but that was not a valid argument because the speaker had not said "all such children become criminals".
@jasonleslie203
@jasonleslie203 4 года назад
@@TheEthiopian1987 I'm in total agreement with you. Im straight but my sister married another woman & is happy so im happy for her & hope she gets to stay happy for a long time
@TheEthiopian1987
@TheEthiopian1987 4 года назад
@@jasonleslie203 glad your sister found someone she loves. I hope she stays happy too, as I said everybody deserves happiness so long as it does not physically hurt others.
@jasonleslie203
@jasonleslie203 4 года назад
@@TheEthiopian1987 amen. I just wish people would just leave them alone! At the end of the day theyre still human beings who should be judge by actions & deeds not who they decide to have as a partner. If they give me the same respect as a human being or giving and kind. Judge/treat me the same as you want to be. Live & let live. Anyways i could go on forever on topics like this but im in agreement with you, not forcing it on anyone else physically or any other way.
@CalumRhysJones
@CalumRhysJones 6 лет назад
This is so strange to have such a progressive topic discussed in what looks like the 1800s.
@ianreynolds8552
@ianreynolds8552 5 лет назад
No it's not they had to change their attitudes towards gays , it's class they have a problem with
@pjjunior1402
@pjjunior1402 3 года назад
So you're calling other people of different cultures and religions backwards? So all the African immigrants in the UK, The Muslim population ...the Asian population..they're all backwards? You mam are racist.
@lilsomething8905
@lilsomething8905 3 года назад
@@pjjunior1402 Homophobia IS backwards
@phineassss4901
@phineassss4901 3 года назад
@@pjjunior1402 religion IS also backwards. Culture also has a tendency to negatively impact human progress.
@bstlybengali
@bstlybengali 3 года назад
Lmao
@awesomesauceplays9212
@awesomesauceplays9212 10 лет назад
This is just something that someone said to me. "You believe in gay rights, you must be gay" I say: "I believe in animal rights, but you don't see me walking round like a fucking alpaca!"
@matthewparkin7350
@matthewparkin7350 6 лет назад
True, but you are an animal.
@hiidonthavenameideas2923
@hiidonthavenameideas2923 3 года назад
@@matthewparkin7350 what?
@peacefulleo9477
@peacefulleo9477 3 года назад
@@hiidonthavenameideas2923 We are animals biologically.. when we talk about animal rights we mean non human animals rights.
@kk-ei5zz
@kk-ei5zz 3 года назад
7 y/o comment, so probably won't see this, but this comment made me laugh, incredible!
@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE.
@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. 3 года назад
That's not really a good comparison though, because humans are mammals, which means we *are* animals.
@bupababa5299
@bupababa5299 7 лет назад
Oxford and Cambridge have been always center of homosexual intellectuels. That is one of the well known tradition in there.
@omnipitous4648
@omnipitous4648 5 лет назад
So what Bupa? Does that mean gay people are more intelligent? Because that is basically what you are saying. What people do in the privacy of their homes as long as it is consensual is nobody else's business frankly.
@omnipitous4648
@omnipitous4648 5 лет назад
@@magnusb9783 What is you're standard of morality? I would be interested in knowing. And as far as stupid comments are concerned, your criticism offers no particular insights. So who is stupid again?
@fitzpatrick4704
@fitzpatrick4704 5 лет назад
@@magnusb9783 Not having dumbasses "standing up against" people who just want to be happy and accepted is a good thing.
@yousuck8074
@yousuck8074 4 года назад
craig rankine not a good look on your future job application buddy
@ariascarlet9149
@ariascarlet9149 3 года назад
@M B I think what this person is trying to say is that there were prominent homosexual figures in Oxford and Cambridge... and yes basically the majority of the intellectual world back then harbored some form of homophobia or general distaste for homosexuality.... that's kinda obvious
@azkid9
@azkid9 10 лет назад
Unbelievable that it takes a young man like this to teach these old farts the meaning of tolerance. I applaud you.
@zy479
@zy479 6 лет назад
flying dutchman123 I think he meant the stubborn opposition sitting there of an elder age. Not all the elders on the planet.
@pulisichhh
@pulisichhh 6 лет назад
His entire speech was all about how gay parents are better than an heterosexual couple (or as he says "traditional couple" in a bad way)
@kudos7777
@kudos7777 5 лет назад
Didn't prove any thing just emotional rhetoric,didn't quote any studies nothing!
@fitzpatrick4704
@fitzpatrick4704 5 лет назад
@@pjjunior1402 My boyfriend and I are laughing at your idiotic comment.
@pjjunior1402
@pjjunior1402 5 лет назад
@@fitzpatrick4704 Well you shouldn't laugh. God is angry. The trangenda agenda that is currently targeting children in Birmingham has infuriated him(amongst other things). And I believe that we are all going to have to pay. You should be fearing the HELL fires..not laughing about it .I pray for you.
@Gorritz89
@Gorritz89 11 лет назад
He's cute, and well spoken. I like him.
@trash4899
@trash4899 4 года назад
@SoggyShrimp shut up
@trash4899
@trash4899 4 года назад
@SoggyShrimp thanks
@LordMisunderstoodSnape
@LordMisunderstoodSnape 4 года назад
@@yeaha185 He is reading out points from a fucking pamphlet. Guess what. I can read too. Didn't have to go to Oxford to learn how to read.
@venomfan9758
@venomfan9758 3 года назад
WaH r Uie Gaeh
@fruit4evr
@fruit4evr 3 года назад
@@LordMisunderstoodSnape you know that he wrote the phamphlet thought right? Like he didn’t just read it he wrote the thing
@daenerystargaryen484
@daenerystargaryen484 3 года назад
I remember the days when races weren’t allowed to marry other races. Christians were behind that discrimination problem too.
@frankyvelez4549
@frankyvelez4549 2 года назад
It's not discrimination. It's a lifestyle we believe to be the way. All the bible's prophecies are being fulfilled right before our own eyes. And there is no arguing that. Nobody is being forced to stay inside the closet. Come out, do you and don't talk shit about straight people and Christians. We don't hate the gays and neither does GOD. He hates SIN itself but loves the sinner. Salvation is individual and we're responsible for our own actions and to each his own but deep down you all know The bible is correct.
@tofurieux7791
@tofurieux7791 2 года назад
@@frankyvelez4549 it is when you are taking away their rights my friend
@tofurieux7791
@tofurieux7791 2 года назад
@@frankyvelez4549 And no one is insulting straights or christians for no reason. Stop being homophobic and gay people won’t have a problem with your beliefs
@bruhwhy6949
@bruhwhy6949 2 года назад
@@frankyvelez4549 and being gay also is apart of a lifestyle. Coming from an atheist/agnostic who was a former Christian, please stop throwing around your gospel like it's fact, especially since we have religious freedom.
@Cheeseoogus_
@Cheeseoogus_ 2 года назад
@@bruhwhy6949 exactly
@EK-mx4gx
@EK-mx4gx 10 лет назад
for those of you who are leaving homophobic comments here.. dont bring up `bible’ or ‘god’ as your anti gay excuse. I see no logical reason why being gay is unnatural thing or immoral thing whatsoever just by seeing you guys bringing up your own personal beliefs.
@chrissmith8198
@chrissmith8198 2 месяца назад
Well the fact that a man's back door is not a sexual organ should kind of clue you in don't you think? Even lesbians use toys in a certain shape proving the natural order?
@ashleyrose1840
@ashleyrose1840 11 лет назад
To the comment below mine: So "the anus was meant to be an exit only", just like people were "created in God's image" and "meant to live for God and God alone". We see how that turned out, right? People pick and choose what what want to believe in. They'll argue that according to God, that people of the same-sex is unnatural and a sin, yet those very people aren't exactly living like saints themselves. There's too much picking and choosing and hypocrisy regarding this issue and it's sick.
@warrenpaine
@warrenpaine 2 года назад
The vagina functions as an exit too.
@lilyevans4244
@lilyevans4244 2 года назад
I've never heard any religious homophobic said they're saint. In our pov, that we believe in God's words. And in my own opinion that we live in a REALLY2 mad world rn. People will legalize anything they want to pleasure themselves. We (Muslims) prohibited same sex physical relationships..(i watched that on YT) and really hope for them to realize what they're doing are wrong.
@Prithvikalra660
@Prithvikalra660 2 года назад
@@lilyevans4244 Could you please explain why do you think same sex relationships are bad according to you? Don't put religious arguments because I am an atheist and unless you can prove to me that god exists I will not believe in any of your arguments regarding islam
@chrissmith8198
@chrissmith8198 2 месяца назад
​​@@Prithvikalra660 creation is proof of the creator is that's simple A building proves there is a builder A painting is prove there is a painter Romans 1:20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God
@Prithvikalra660
@Prithvikalra660 2 месяца назад
@@chrissmith8198 Well that doesn't prove that the christian god exists though. There are many contradictions in the bible. And there have been thousands of religions and gods, which one is right?
@Lonelykeanefan
@Lonelykeanefan 3 года назад
I went to school with Crawford. Very proud to have found this today.
@balladofahomeschooledboy0514
@balladofahomeschooledboy0514 2 года назад
does he have a boyfriend yet? or a family?
@masonm9823
@masonm9823 Год назад
@@balladofahomeschooledboy0514 dumbass
@HarrisonBowman
@HarrisonBowman 11 лет назад
Im the same as you, im bi who was raised by heterosexual parents, how can people not realise that we were just born this way? omg it pisses me off.
@bean5157
@bean5157 3 года назад
I'm a bigender lesbian who was raised by heterosexual parents. Completely agree, why and how do people think being gay or trans or just part of the LGBT+ is a choice? How braindead can they be?
@yusssqueen8183
@yusssqueen8183 2 года назад
I agree as a non binary bisexual human being, i was raise in a heterosexual family, i don't get why people think we can choose or pick, it's stupid.
@RUSlavaRussiaZ
@RUSlavaRussiaZ Год назад
I agree as a transexual agesexual gay non binary transracial lesbian bisexual trans intercontinental ballistic missile.
@HarrisonBowman
@HarrisonBowman Год назад
@@RUSlavaRussiaZ Making fun of that sort of thing just goes to prove your ignorance, and your lack of humour, because that joke was shit as well.
@Nixn_From_Da_Hood
@Nixn_From_Da_Hood 4 месяца назад
​@@RUSlavaRussiaZHahahah seems legit😂
@j0e195
@j0e195 10 лет назад
This is brilliant. I have never hoped more than ever that people like Crawford Jamieson and Benjamin Cohen will be the most prominent people of this generation.
@ianreynolds8552
@ianreynolds8552 5 лет назад
I hope they have an open attitude towards equal pay for women, scrapping universal credit, and getting rid of the gig economy. After all the once oppressed should never become the oppressor.
@chillfoo6931
@chillfoo6931 4 года назад
Ian Renenzi shut the fuck up
@JoshuaMSOG7
@JoshuaMSOG7 2 года назад
@@chillfoo6931 thank you
@DavidWilliams-mo6dj
@DavidWilliams-mo6dj 2 года назад
@@ianreynolds8552 what do you have against gig economy. The gig economy is helping out a lot of people that are trying to make a living without being a slave to the system.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol
@ToxicallyMasculinelol 9 лет назад
i totally support gay parentage. but you're wrong about single parents... it's been scientifically proven, beyond any doubt, for decades now... that fatherlessness causes all sorts of problems like poverty, delinquency, mental illness, etc. single parents ARE hurting their children. but gay parents, as long as there are 2 of them, are way better than single parents for the children. they're really unrelated issues. you need two parents, for proper socialization. more than 2 parent figures is even better. the gender shouldn't matter MUCH, but it does help if the child has a parent who behaves similarly to itself. so a straight male child is better off with at least one masculine parent, whether that parent is male or female. that's how the child learns to develop its own personality.
@canadianehtheist3752
@canadianehtheist3752 8 лет назад
+Toxically Masculine Mental illness! lol
@user-nf3hh8kn5r
@user-nf3hh8kn5r 8 лет назад
+Al Uma Naughty How is mental illness funny, you piece of shit???
@LeoAugustom
@LeoAugustom 8 лет назад
Do you have some peer-reviewed scientific literature with a strong sample size and concise conclusions to back up your claim?
@LeoAugustom
@LeoAugustom 8 лет назад
Also, someone could just as easily argue that it is poverty and social inequality which facilitates "fatherlessness", delinquency and mental traumas. Your deterministic argument is pretty unscientific. Hasn't any science teacher ever told you that "correlation does not imply causation"? You cannot make assertions, "beyond a shadow of a doubt", about something which is so incredibly complex and full of variables like parenting, growing up and other human experiences. Even if it's a likely event that having a single parent is damaging to children to varying extents, it would not be an overwhelming phenomenon since we have a complementary population made up of stable, single-parent families.
@jaysmith2786
@jaysmith2786 7 лет назад
Do you believe in secularism, thus pragmatism is the norm, including ones morals and value? or Judeo-christian ? One of these is the Truth ( John 1:1 ).
@klaus2747
@klaus2747 9 лет назад
Hes so cute
@mkid5173
@mkid5173 6 лет назад
ugly and stupid
@zach4832
@zach4832 5 лет назад
Kollads kid Yes stupid, that’s why he’s in oxford and you’re not
@eastafrican6317
@eastafrican6317 5 лет назад
Greek, damn
@SoundNorthernstar
@SoundNorthernstar 5 лет назад
so beta
@ianreynolds8552
@ianreynolds8552 5 лет назад
Are you in his upper class circle, if you 're a working class guy for get it
@dpmarket
@dpmarket 8 лет назад
So where is the video with the vote results?
@chriswood1821
@chriswood1821 3 года назад
usually in the description of the final speaker's debate vid it will say if the motion carried.
@theocean1973
@theocean1973 6 лет назад
Smart, well-spoken, charismatic, and perfectly prepared! Wow. I don't have much respect for theology as a subject, but this theology student is brilliant.
@pjjunior1402
@pjjunior1402 5 лет назад
This theology student is evil and satanic. Sodomy is not something to be proud of.
@stevenchilds861
@stevenchilds861 4 года назад
pj junior whether you like it or not homosexuality is natural FACT.
@bruhwhy6949
@bruhwhy6949 2 года назад
@@pjjunior1402 your just a cherry picker. You must treat thy neighbor as thy self, and you do not call your neighbor evil for something they can't control. Stop being a bigot on the internet just because of your religion. Seriously. Stop.
@MrLuv4Lyrics
@MrLuv4Lyrics 10 лет назад
Body parts have multiple uses. Have you ever used your tongue to lick an envelope? Have you ever used your fingers to type on a keyboard? Yes - did they evolve to do that? No. However you still do it. Your argument is invalid.
@DrDiamond26
@DrDiamond26 10 лет назад
That was really good! He is very well spoken and educated.
@andreadenton2407
@andreadenton2407 11 лет назад
Great speech! From someone who was raised by a gay parent I totally agree. I was brought up in a very loving supportive family. And no, I'm not gay but would be proud to be!
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 Год назад
A child of “same parents” backs marriage as man and Woman only I read on Christian concern. 🌈💯I don’t have “two mums” “two dads” (just biological mum and dad) but I know some people in that group don’t want heavy lgb… brainwashing
@Iamhere829
@Iamhere829 Год назад
Love u guys, so happy that you were raised by loving parents..God bless🥹❤❤❤
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 Год назад
@@Iamhere829 ?
@Iamhere829
@Iamhere829 Год назад
@@andybray9791 oh wait i thought you were raised by gay parents too ..which tf you're not.. lying ass 🤣🤣 What looks like from your channel and comments is that you're a professional homophobe 🤣🤣🤣
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 Год назад
@@Iamhere829 you filthy smear merchant
@Jonasftw
@Jonasftw 5 лет назад
Gosh, I know this is 6 years old (HOW DID I NOT FIND THIS VIDEO UNTIL NOW?!), but that young lad brought it home. So eloquent and the ending made me quite sentimental.
@echo5163
@echo5163 6 лет назад
My God. Look at the comments screaming about being gay is wrong. So much have changed. Gays are now more widely accepted now. Thank goodness.
@JackJackKcajify
@JackJackKcajify 10 лет назад
A very weak argument. His responses regard the fact that these gay couples are merely taking the load of the negative artifacts of heterosexual relationships, such as unwanted childbirth. Its not acceptable. He doesnt provide anything useful or convincing. His adoption argument was the most flawed, and actually makes him look foolish. To sum up this mans arguement let me put it this way. Gay parents are not harmful to their children because theyre children are "better" off than those children who are a part of dysfunctional heterosexual relationships. His case regarding how heterosexual relationships have the same lack of psychological development for the child as gay relationships is equally as laughable. In no sense does a marriage have a lack of role model involvement. The fact is the child is aware of his father and his mother and their connection to each other. I would expect a stronger argument. Fancy words dont get you anywhere. He needs a lesson on dialectics.
@asasbs1411
@asasbs1411 11 лет назад
im really upset about people making fun of gays. I will say it proudly, my name is Ali Abidi and i am gay. maybe that's why.
@ReemaSingh95
@ReemaSingh95 11 лет назад
I absolutely love his debate. His accent just makes him seem more intelligent and it makes you want to side with him. I really like how he uses pathos when he mentions that every child should just be loved and taken care of when adopted. That really gets to you and grabs your attention. Thank you Crawford you helped me with my Gay Rights Debate for my Government class. :)
@jakaroo94
@jakaroo94 11 лет назад
Considering his age, he spoke wonderfully. He'd make a great advocate.
@itspie24
@itspie24 4 года назад
My seatmate is powerful when it comes to orals, especially debates. She has a powerful voice..it's too scary to have her in a different team, she could logically attack you with facts and evidence
@joepaul5767
@joepaul5767 6 лет назад
Crawford Jamieson, you are so freaking adorable! Your passion and intelligence is over the top amazing. I wish you all the love and happiness that life can bring to you.
@liammmm
@liammmm 3 года назад
The fact that there even has to be a debate on gay rights is so utterly shameful. We live in a world where some people don’t deserve the same rights as others, all because of love... awful
@rustyshackleford2717
@rustyshackleford2717 5 лет назад
these recent comments are a mess.
@jessicalee4552
@jessicalee4552 3 года назад
Love LGBTQ
@Jay-son.
@Jay-son. 5 месяцев назад
What about hell? do you like or dislike hell?
@JesusChristSaves2024
@JesusChristSaves2024 11 лет назад
'' It isn't fine because the life of homosexuals can be much harder than normal.'', Well, This is what I meant and it is true, That is just the reality. The studies can never fully and accurately show or reflect the actuality of what it is like to be part of an lgbt homes or any other home for that matter. It just isn't logical to think that a person who is in a non-normal situation is as happy as a normal person would be, I mean this in a gerneral sense.
@Millsy383
@Millsy383 9 лет назад
What a fucking boss!
@thebadtemperedbrit
@thebadtemperedbrit 8 лет назад
Crawford is just stupendous & lovely xx
@Letzbehonest
@Letzbehonest 10 лет назад
Brilliant points. Love the tongue and cheek line
@parasleonidas2833
@parasleonidas2833 4 года назад
keep it within your religion.
@RealVampiresBurn
@RealVampiresBurn 11 лет назад
Eloquent and beautiful debate
@wonderlandisalanguage9646
@wonderlandisalanguage9646 6 лет назад
There's a girl in my class whose mother is bisexual. Her mother left her father when she was younger and is now living with a woman. This girl lives with her mothers one week and with her father the other week and she's perfectly fine with it and she isn't any more different than we all are _ she's just more accepting and open-minded than most of us.
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 11 месяцев назад
Similar to Jenny lives with Eric and Martin book
@HypeerChick
@HypeerChick 11 лет назад
I was fixated through the whole speech. It was well crafted and he sounded so confident throughout the whole thing. I totally agree with him
@BEhistoricStudios
@BEhistoricStudios Год назад
google joe mazzara 1978 lol
@user-dv3dg5sq7u
@user-dv3dg5sq7u 11 лет назад
Its deviation from traditional orientation, that's how. Same "arguments" like calling it a mental illness rather than choice, and then degrade to actually state that they're "born that way", can be applied to those things I mentioned as well.
@nuska5813
@nuska5813 3 года назад
ive watched the whole debate and came back to this, now crying, to still leave this on a good note somehow
@AnthonyTristramMoore
@AnthonyTristramMoore 10 лет назад
some delivery.
@rubytuesdaytarrant6782
@rubytuesdaytarrant6782 10 лет назад
Smashed it!
@rafd3593
@rafd3593 2 года назад
Not surprisingly, this young man excelled in all his exams and is now a barrister. Catch another fine performance by an undergraduate - Lucy Banks, elsewhere on RU-vid.
@vorpal22
@vorpal22 11 лет назад
No, children do not need a mother and father for proper psychosexual development. Children of same-sex couples and single parents have never been shown to be at any disadvantage. The best thing for children is to have loving parents and a family or close knit community of men and women of varying stripes to assist in their care and nurture. Just because my children will be raised by two men does not mean they will not have women closely involved in their development.
@sadiebee9163
@sadiebee9163 6 лет назад
This kid is so damn persuasive. Like, you get all into it when he's speaking. Like "you tell buddy". Really intelligent too. Smart kid.
@bubblepebble4618
@bubblepebble4618 10 лет назад
wow, makes me even more proud.
@bubblepebble4618
@bubblepebble4618 10 лет назад
jack trolman yeah, it depends...but, yeah...it happens... sad:(
@Jamieishere1
@Jamieishere1 11 лет назад
Marriage has to change throughout history, as all words and legal definitions do. Women are no longer sold in to sexual slavery by their fathers (I.E. "traditional" marriage for instance). Various age of consent laws have come in over time too... do you oppose these? It has many definitions even now, with polygamy being legal in almost 50 nations and inter-racial marriage being illegal at times in history etc. So the idea that the definition doesn't or can't change is simply factually incorrect.
@pianoman0189
@pianoman0189 11 лет назад
I'm not sure the debate is so much about equality as much as it is about self-esteem. It seems that the gay movement will push for gay rights until every last child on the earth is taught that gay is ok. And because gays don't have the same rights, they feel slighted. And they will make every Pastor in the nation bow down and agree that homosexuality is ok. Even though gays think their lifestyle is pure, I'm gonna stay over on God's side, no matter what. See you at the Judgement Seat.
@joepaul5767
@joepaul5767 6 лет назад
Paul Hammond sorry your self righteous indignation will now get you a seat in hell. Along with all your hate for your brothers and sisters. Jesus number one commandment was to love your neighbor as yourself and then you will fulfill all the other laws. In your pride and self indignation you are ignoring that command and will be sentenced to hell. The Bible only condemns same-sex lusts not loving relationships. God made these relationships to take care of the children that the Sinner heterosexuals had and do not want.
@darkfallzz
@darkfallzz 11 лет назад
he's like my dreamboy :3 and I love his accent it's like woow :3
@Jonasftw
@Jonasftw 3 года назад
This is seven years late, but that is not an accent. It's a dialect.
@truongtranthaiduy8959
@truongtranthaiduy8959 3 года назад
@@Jonasftw wait why is it not an accent?
@Jonasftw
@Jonasftw 3 года назад
@@truongtranthaiduy8959 Accent= someone who doesn't speak the language fluently. Dialect= from a certain part of the country :-)
@joshuathompson4242
@joshuathompson4242 2 года назад
@@Jonasftw no, it's an accent
@watchingyoutwo3800
@watchingyoutwo3800 2 года назад
Sorry for no punctuation!! If your chose to be Right on any evaluation of life than live and serve the Angels Agenda in which they have convoluted the truth of God to create a culture that will remove the DNA from the truth. that life will not flourish while Punishing God from having life on spread on earth so it will live on! God excel that man on his own accountability has every desires of the flesh to do anything on earth but with the only expectation that they honor the right to understand being Gay will not ever inherit being given an Angels Authority to do the Will of God in Heaven! This is an Angels Authority for the Angels to corrupt people into a mentality against the Right for your true DNA is Gods’ DNA to marry and have children with a wife and marriage! They are keeping your DNA is the DNA they don’t what God to replenish but keep you in an “Authority” to not want a wife to love God in your image is God, but “not when you do your own will!!” Following Angels are doing “what the angels want, you (mankind) to do for them (Angels)! They take your life into there metaphysical realm! If u live by the truth of the Angels on earth than except the angels have applied an authority to keep you in this mentality and you can have anything on earth! You are being give the truth that mankind In a small dispute that is a probability that man would conduct themselves but would not last for it is not a way of God. For man to live and replenish the earth or continue the cultivation of life to live longer than 100 years! This no reason for gay people if it an Authority by the Angels! Us are under an authority do you hear me “community” the Angels don’t want your dna to be on the right side of of god you are the angels side of the metaphysical Angels Heavenly Holy Realm: God has full authority that creates the: Universe = Angels = mankind and removal of all and everything is his to draw back to himself! All thing belongs to God not to Angels or to mankind! Angels wrote the Bible and they fell from Heaven Cause There Rebellious got them kicked out of where? Why cast rotten, Rebellious, evil, Angels, etc on earth to live with mankind?? Is God punishing them or punishing “mankind” could the angels play devils advocate with Mankind? How by creating a false a Narrative by knowledge of there own Bible or creative awareness to there own Biblical truth?? If they claim the right to lead humanity? Do humans have prior knowledge of what they can not see or don’t have exposure to knowing as a human? The term Jesus Christ Jesus= Angels Christ = human Resurrection = sacrifice w/metaphysical Angels Heavenly Holy Realm on “Earth” Why drink Blood Why eat the body Means in 501c3 Vatican extension churches = sacrificing Humanity wow! Is the government at all in a division of church and Government the states already serve Angels “ Ivy League colleges private privilege Mankind where lost from the beginning of the establish of Angels an Mankind! Yes god is punishing the Angels for this and other authorities that are applied to mankind to remove humanity from living in the authorized authority of God!!!
@miniman649
@miniman649 10 лет назад
"The bible says love is to love one another as FAMILY" Two gays can love each other as family as well. The bible also says that woman should be under men and should not be allowed to have the same rights as men does. Do you agree with that, as your 'God' have that written?
@TheJivewriter
@TheJivewriter 11 лет назад
Cite your source or it is just your opinion. I will concede a point that dysfunction may occur when they are bullied by other kids as a result because they have two dads or moms. Kind of like how some studies show that kids in broken homes end up dysfunctional because they are bullied. But you don't pick on broken homes do you?
@rodriguezthiago318
@rodriguezthiago318 2 года назад
I don't think the law should forbid adoption by same sex parents but I don't believe it's the same thing. At least, in the case of boys having a strong father figure is almost fundamental. Saying this is not true is PR bs. But, we don't live in an ideal world and the question is whether the child will be better in an institution or in a "gay home". Should be case by case as with heterosexual parents
@ultravioletblack07
@ultravioletblack07 10 лет назад
Brilliant!
@jays8075
@jays8075 10 лет назад
by brilliant do you mean gross?
@ultravioletblack07
@ultravioletblack07 10 лет назад
jay s Look up the dictionary definition of brilliant ;)
@ultravioletblack07
@ultravioletblack07 10 лет назад
jay s Brilliant [adjective]: very bright, exceptionally clever, outstanding, impressive.
@kyliegillis7519
@kyliegillis7519 5 лет назад
@@luwardner7549 Gay people are just human beings that are attracted to the same sex. Just like you are attracted to the opposite sex. You can't control that can you? No, exactly. Don't be complaining if someone says straights shouldn't have any rights, because then you would be in the same boat as those gays you said the exact same thing about. Don't be a hypocrite.
@joshuacisneros3675
@joshuacisneros3675 5 лет назад
@@luwardner7549 I agree
@HarrisonBowman
@HarrisonBowman 11 лет назад
The fact of the matter is, a child with two dads should NOT be bullied in the first place, it is people who give gay people a bad name who teach their kids not to be accepting of others. Kids get bullied all the time for many many different things, i.e being different. It also has nothing to do with ego, when they are adopting that child, they are making sure that the child is loved and cared for, which their straight parents couldn't achieve.
@Grillchips
@Grillchips 11 лет назад
Great speach! Hope that boy will accomplish something grand in the future!
@ny2568
@ny2568 8 лет назад
Is there a transcript for this?
@sleekcartim
@sleekcartim 11 лет назад
we dont need to hear from the opposition
@amitp7275
@amitp7275 5 лет назад
I wanna watch counter arguments if there's any
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 11 лет назад
My vote here is for Crawford Jamieson. He gave an excellent, well-reasoned and well-defended argument. I love the way that the British still understand the value of holding public debates on the important issues of the time with both sides having the opportunity to support and oppose the proposition.
@zy479
@zy479 6 лет назад
Many of u missed the point. Like he mentioned, nowadays if gay people want to be parents they go through a third party while certain heterosexual couples can be able to have bunch of kids without promotion and destroy their lives at the same time. Don't stick to your old point of talking about this in separated ways. The key factor is kids need GOOD PEOPLE TO RAISE THEM. Dont tell me about sexuals. When gay parents are qualified, they r qualified. When hetresexual parents are making babies nobody would ever freaking know if they are even sober for their whole life.
@cweb8585
@cweb8585 10 лет назад
Writing this as I watch. I'm completely shocked at his comment about "who cares if the parents turn the kid gay." He correctly pointed out that the question being born or choosing to be gay is too big for that debate, but he could have just stated his view that people are born gay and not touch it further. I want to write something about how wrong that is to approve that gay parents would influence children to be gay. But then my counter voice says, " Why is it bad to be gay??" While I have my own views on homosexuality, in the secular debate setting I can't give a widely applicable reason why it is bad and so I am conflicted here. -It's a good point that being adopted by gay parents who sought you out is better than foster care. -Got a little confused on his third set of points. I don't give a crap how the gay community will feel good about being accepted. The question is whether or not the child is adversely effected yeah? I really felt like he gave a weak argument, didn't site any kind of actual data. He just said that gay parents want to be parents so they will be good parents, which I half agree with, then said can't you be nice to the gay community? Then was done.... On to the next video!!
@diviya9925
@diviya9925 10 лет назад
Hi Chris, This is my opinion why I think it is acceptable for him to say "Who cares if the parents turn the kid gay?". I do see it the same way that you did : "Why is it so bad for a person to be gay?" because we cannot provide the tangible harm of being so and I believe that that is also what he meant; that being gay is not all that wrong, in a way. To me personally, he could not have simply stated that people are born gay and leave it at that because when he said that being born gay or choosing to be gay was a topic larger than the debate itself, it is implied that the reason why or how people are gay is itself something that's up for debate and can be argued. If he voiced out that people are born gay, then he leaves that opinion to be challenged by the opposition. He decided instead to base his proposal on the premise that these people are in fact already gay and move the debate from that point onwards. In my opinion, science or research has yet to definitively explain why homosexuality exists and if it is indeed wrong for society since all that exists about the subject are peoples opinions and religion (neither of which is really valid in a debate) and so arguing that wastes a lot of time. Of course I am basing this solely on his speech, I have yet to watch the rest of the debate. I hope I explained it and I apologize if it wasn't what you were looking for, I know I'm horrible at structuring my ideas. I think the whole part about accepting the gay community is about being clear that sexual orientation should not be grounds for discrimination or criteria for becoming parents, but I didn't see the significance as to how it supports his statement either.
@hop123ize
@hop123ize 10 лет назад
Like a boss he killed it
@angelania
@angelania 11 лет назад
Does that mean that we can't allow a child live with one parent who is a widow or divorced ? Or is it better for a child to grow without any parents' love or with the affection of 2 loving parents?
@hpot53
@hpot53 11 лет назад
Here, Here! I hope this young man will stand for Parliament one day.
@unclefurball3859
@unclefurball3859 8 лет назад
Britain should do much to support and encourage the protection of Gay Rights and Gay People in the U.K.
@lisbonacid
@lisbonacid 5 лет назад
omg he is kinda cute omg omg omg
@christopheradderley6902
@christopheradderley6902 11 лет назад
1 Father = good... 2 Fathers = Twice as good!
@nawalahmed2632
@nawalahmed2632 3 года назад
Laughable but go off I guess
@thepluralistdemocracy5189
@thepluralistdemocracy5189 8 лет назад
6:15 - the guy in the back with the blondish hair is the one who george Galloway absolutely slaughtered
@afud1015
@afud1015 6 лет назад
Wow, I can't even imagine what the world would look like if the fundamental foundation in a family structure is being reformed, having both a father and a mother is indisputably essential for the child development. A father could teach the child how to be a man, and a mother could teach the child how important it is to be a gentleman, a father cannot provide the same moral feeling and emotion as a mother do. The kindness and softness of a mother are entirely different than the father. Thus, I strongly oppose gay couple having a right to adopt an infant
@kevinsurya5039
@kevinsurya5039 6 лет назад
Gogeta wrong..they do the same..upbringing matters
@feat.cicero4638
@feat.cicero4638 5 лет назад
Gogeta You need to explain how a father can't teach a son how important it is to be a gentleman. Why can't a father provide the same moral feeling an emotion as a mother? Why can't a father also teach softness and kindness? The lesbians I know are pretty tough ... and remember that gay boys get bullied because they're "too soft". So I don't see the point of your comment.
@AntonioRoma
@AntonioRoma 11 лет назад
He's quite cute :)
@laurawilliams9632
@laurawilliams9632 11 лет назад
Being raised by a gay couple doesn't automatically make you gay. I'm bi and I was raised by heterosexual parents, most of my family and friends are straight (with the exception of my aunt who I don't get along with anyway). I did work experience at a school about two months ago and one of the kids there was raised by a gay couple. He had a girlfriend.
@rhcpguitarar
@rhcpguitarar 10 лет назад
You are correct!
@Collegekid123011
@Collegekid123011 11 лет назад
i am in love :) he was amazing
@AmyThompsonrulez
@AmyThompsonrulez 8 лет назад
v well said
@SherlyWeathers
@SherlyWeathers 11 лет назад
Ugh, there's that word again...gay. It isn't called being gay, it's called being fabulous.
@HypeerChick
@HypeerChick 11 лет назад
I'm glad you have your highly religious views but most people don't care :) The larger amount of children in foster homes that wouldn't be getting adopted by loving families if same sex couples didn't have the rights to adopt children. It's nice to know you care so much about children being loved.
@TheBoringVids
@TheBoringVids 10 лет назад
A gay can only be a father, not a mother. A gay couple can not be the "parents" of a child, for the child belongs to the mother and father, not the selfish gay couple that adopts them...
@JoshGerhards
@JoshGerhards 6 лет назад
When two married people adopt a child, it's their child. How are two people adopting a kid being selfish? It's not like there is a shortage of foster children.
@michellerosas3987
@michellerosas3987 6 лет назад
It's theirs biologically OBVIOUSLY - be specific B
@joepaul5767
@joepaul5767 6 лет назад
Boring Videos LOL selfish?? What a hateful comment. Obviously you're prejudiced. Children in orphanages do not have a father or mother. So to have two fathers or two mothers that love them and care about them are tremendously better than zero parents.
@hamstersama4801
@hamstersama4801 7 лет назад
Gay parenting is not better than straight parenting. It's like comparing a ripe pear to a decaying apple, which of course paints the pear as better. But most kids would prefer healthy apples than pears.
@kevinsurya5039
@kevinsurya5039 6 лет назад
Hamster Sama wrong..both parenting show same results and same variables
@Shakarnetwork4242
@Shakarnetwork4242 5 лет назад
The Earth is waxing cold, these debates prove the scriptures true.
@princelockwoodnot549
@princelockwoodnot549 3 года назад
We’re cold because we don’t support the murder and destruction of the lgbtq community?
@hallowedproductions3334
@hallowedproductions3334 3 года назад
Can we get him to be Prime Minister. First gay, handsome and progressive PM
@eliteintelectual.9948
@eliteintelectual.9948 2 года назад
Lol
@Cheeseoogus_
@Cheeseoogus_ 2 года назад
he's not the FIRST handsome gay but GODDAMNNN
@Zakhoy92
@Zakhoy92 8 лет назад
Is that guy a vampire ?
@vaslav030547
@vaslav030547 7 лет назад
Are you a Nerd?
@1988stevenson
@1988stevenson 11 лет назад
People need to stop jugding
@gouthambolt
@gouthambolt 5 лет назад
Solve this riddle please. He says gay people have higher suicide rate, huger risk of mental illness and drug addiction. But gay people make a better parent?
@gouthambolt
@gouthambolt 5 лет назад
@@rustyshackleford2717 I don't care about the parenting. As long as you people don't force us to use gender pronouns or try to propagate "gender is a social construct" theory. The damage it could do to young kids leaving them confused will be significant. Like I said I don't care about gay people I have no problem as long as they try to blend in with normal people. But if they separate people as cis or LGBT then I would definitely hate them. And my ex girlfriend is a completely straight girl but she now believes she's qeer thanks to 1D community. What I'm trying to say is I don't have any problem with real gay people but I have problems with what this LGBT community as a whole and what they are trying to do(gender theories).
@rustyshackleford2717
@rustyshackleford2717 5 лет назад
Goutham Doddi , most of the community doesn't believe in raising a child like that.
@rustyshackleford2717
@rustyshackleford2717 5 лет назад
"Where kids were bought" You sure about that, that's the most elite form of bullshit I have ever heard. Most gay men are in the LGBT community.
@pegasus6724
@pegasus6724 Год назад
They all said no over 200 and there body language was recorded and they all failed it and had killed children
@maasai-
@maasai- Год назад
When the devil given a stage to speak this loud say goodbye to human kind .
@vmencheriki
@vmencheriki Год назад
can't wait to see the future of this humanity ...
@VirginiaBoy1969
@VirginiaBoy1969 11 лет назад
Those British debaters really know how to debate! Great job.
@jakejones5736
@jakejones5736 11 лет назад
Already did. Apparently, you didn't read my entire post. Also, had you read the post to which I responded, you would see that my statement was not a judgement at all.
@kudos7777
@kudos7777 5 лет назад
Gay couples make better parents really. From the very beginning of human existence up to now society or civilization has been built on the family, father mother = kids. How can this emotional kid now argue otherwise without any basis. More emotional rhetoric than anything.
@AliAbidiTube
@AliAbidiTube 11 лет назад
im really upset about people making fun of gays. I will say it proudly, my name is Ali Abidi and i am gay, I'm muslim and im gay, i still pray and do what all muslims do except that i am sexually attracted to boys. i go to an only boys school and im gay if ur gay or support gays plz like this i am ali abidi and im gay
@luffyskywalker7549
@luffyskywalker7549 5 лет назад
I don't understand why people compare gay people and racism.
@luffyskywalker7549
@luffyskywalker7549 5 лет назад
@@nihilnemo5421 it doesn't because it's something completely different
@stevenchilds861
@stevenchilds861 4 года назад
People compare because it’s the same principle even tho race and sexuality is different the discrimination both community’s faced the rights that were stripped away from them because of there race or sexuality that’s the reasoning for comparison
@WCaron23001
@WCaron23001 11 лет назад
Aside from being supercute Crawford is incredibly dynamic and erudite
@droptimistic
@droptimistic 3 года назад
How is this even a discussion nowadays
@Cheeseoogus_
@Cheeseoogus_ 2 года назад
he's responding to a video making these points against gay parents
@isaacanderson3811
@isaacanderson3811 3 года назад
Nice video to revisit this art as usual
@rxss1260
@rxss1260 3 года назад
That was an absolutely great
@vorpal22
@vorpal22 11 лет назад
Oh, man... the original speaker is wrong: in the 1980s, there were huge numbers of people who protested mixed race couples adopting and raising children because they thought the kids would be bullied. Of course, it was a completely stupid argument, but it was actually quite widespread.
@jason0998
@jason0998 11 лет назад
Great speech man
@Adrian-ue5hz
@Adrian-ue5hz 3 года назад
Arent debates supposed to be 2 sided
@exposureeee
@exposureeee 3 года назад
Yes. I believe that the opposition presented their points in another video.
@Cheeseoogus_
@Cheeseoogus_ 2 года назад
Yes, he's responding to a doffrent video making exuses against gay people
@neojted
@neojted 11 лет назад
Surely this is a non-debate. Gay parents may already raise children in the UK.
@gmsofficialmusicchannel6469
@gmsofficialmusicchannel6469 4 года назад
Well said
@Jamieishere1
@Jamieishere1 11 лет назад
It's far more important to simply stop teaching kids that being gay isn't ok, rather than teaching them that it is. That's likely all that's needed, though countering prejudice that is already ingrained doesn't hurt. In general, I'd be in favour of approaches that alleviate ignorance, rather than proclaim right/wrong without sound explanation/justification. Your version of a deity is one of thousands, many of which are indifferent to homosexuality. These debates are about laws, not religion.
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