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I get so stoked when I see a new canyon vid 🎉🎉🎉

On an IRL GT1 race car we used to run toe-out in front and toe-in on the rear (road courses). Very small amounts in each case. Front was easy to set; rear required bending the axle tubes, so once it was where we wanted it we never messed with it again. Of course, the car was also RWD only. Very interesting to compare and contrast that with the behavior of scale 4x4 crawlers. I tend to setup my rigs the same way. The Twins are just perfect for this kind of stuff!

Helloooo canyoneros

I've always run a little toe out, very interested to see how this goes.

I also asked this in the livestream. So glad you did a this n that about it.

This is a valuable test thanks

don't forget to increase the EPA to balance the steering angles of each rig, 😊😊

yes

My brain is definitely in neutral also!

Another good vid to answer some questions we've always wondered about. I'd like to see these comparos when we have gates, just to force the lines. When it comes down to questions like this, I think you'd notice more in a comp environment where every few mm maters. Keep up the good work! I love that you made the twins....it's what I've always wanted in my review videos, lol.

thanks for that video. it did answer my question very well. I am going to try the toe out on my trx 6 because the rig is pretty stable as it is, but doesn't have a whole lot of steering to it

can you do a similar video, with upper link lengths and another swapping upper link positions, front and rear. think that could possibly make some decent content wih the direct comparisons 😅😅

Huge difference depends on Akerman setup axle to different axle. Obviously everyone setups a little different, but first is the clearence the steering till axle click, or even clearence yoke to prevent axle click. Max both to the side and measure, that is the tierod length. Akerman setup on the axle can give you something more to play with, keeping under about 0-5 mm at tire.

"You can get wit dis, or you can get wit dat?, i think ill get wit dis, coz dis is where its at" Da Choice is yours"

On go-fast we run toe-in to neutral and the ackerman gives us toe-out by full lock. As I understand it, the outside turning tire is loaded more at speed and that is mainly the tire doing the steering in a fast corner. I think you hit on it here that the loaded tire does most of the work. Toe-out at full lock gives more stability mid corner and in drift, the trailing tire offers some scrub

I've always ran 0 toe since I figure I get the max amount of steering from each side before my universals can't handle it anymore.

👍🏻 on the tech videos

20:26 Like a glove 😅😂

Ive always run toe out to place myself in a zero or even positive ackerman condition at full lock. I cant wait to see what your results are from this!

Twin powers activated

Thanks for the vid. Really . I'll keep toe out on my trx4 trail but will reduce that toe.. I was wondering why it wanted to tip over so easily on tight turns.. so reducing that toe is probably a good way to go. On my hacked ecto with buns inserts and stuff I'll look into the toe in a bit and guess this is also the way to go in my config because as it currently sits it's a bit toe out and I'm sure neutral or in will improve the rig. Peace from the french guy living in Spain Gomu gomu no tires for ever (I love my Louise on crawler and on buggy) And may the torque be with you and all your followers

While we're at it anyone run a steering gyro in their crawler?? Think I'll go for a smidge of toe in, wasn't expecting that 👍 excellent work Mr Canyon, cheers to whoever suggested this 🍻

I would love to see a test of scrub radius. Excessive offset vs a neutral. Or Maybe a caster comparison

This has always been my opinion when people ask, and what i always build into my trucks…Too out. Neutral for trail, toe out or negative toe for a crawler.

What about good geometry vs bad geometry? We always talk about how important geometry is, and im curious about how big the difference could be. Is it possible to make the geometry of one of those gentlemans bad on purpose, without too much work? I dont like the look of big OD, and I dont like the look of toe in/out neither

Does running different tires have an affect on outcome? Curious due to recently encountering this endeavor.

Looking for some information on 80 mil shocks and I cannot find very much. Would love to see a this or that 80 mil versus 90 mil shocks and see the difference and exactly what the benefits of running a shorter or longer shock

Yo

I just run zero toe best of both worlds

The actual answer is camel

I love Toad in da hole😂 all u lot wit dirty minds, it a Food in da UK 😋

What’s all the fuzz about cut and shut tires? Have you tried any??

What springs do you use on those shocks?

i want that link measurement tool where u buy one? If its home made can you show how to make it?

Okay this is making me angry. 11 minutes in and still no toes in or out

weird very weird

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Ya could av a split tie rid n 2 mini servos n some fanagleing n ya got on da fly adjustable toe in or out..........................