Friedman would never have the guts for a shootout lol. That whiny little worm immediately ran and hid behind the floor manager like it was his dad lol. And then started crying about getting threatened in public after he made false accusations in public.
Even in my city, when all the players are high skilled and known by everyone on the table and in the casino, the dealers just enjoy the game and dont think anyone of those players with thousands of hours on the tables would make any kind of mistake...
@@veekay3158 The poker players are to stupid to lay the ante in front of them over the line, because they think they are „cool“ when they throw it around… These Losers probably didn‘t see a naked woman for years, that‘s why they behave like this…
Not really he was right someone didn't pay ante, he also said he wasn't sure if it was Lissandro. Lissandro got away with a ton of rule violations and then got bluffed pretty badly by Prahlad
@@martinkopberg1591 in the circumstances, I think it was appropriate, you can’t accuse someone of cheating. Lisandro gave him plenty of chances to leave it before he lost his cool, even though he may have been out of line threatening him, you can’t call someone a cheater (with no evidence) and expect them to just sit there and take it.
@@briansymmes7917 yeah but threatening some one like that, is actually a crime, isn’t it? Don’t think pralad would do something about it, just sayin ‘.
Poker was different then. The personalities from the players and the commentary from Lon and Norman’s jokes made poker so much fun to watch. Now it’s just different
@@geoffnolan1053 I think you can first ask a player if he / she post ante. If there stil are doubt you should ask the floormananger for a rulling. Never ever should you falsely acuse any player off stealing. This is WAY over the line.
@@dopewarszh6429 he knew that. This had nothing to do with the ante. He was needling the guy to try to tilt him and it was obviously working. This is very much a standard part of some people's game. If Lesandro had calmly ignored him Prahlad would've given up quickly. This is what little kids do in the back seat to try to get each other in trouble. If you play a lot you barely notice it after a while and they find other targets.
Of course you disrupt a hand if you think cheating just took place. The most wrong thing in this video, and it's not even close, is threatening serious physical violence because your feelings were hurt.
Lisandro *WAS NOT* out of line. He had been continually accused of cheating for several minutes, and Friedman *WOULD NOT STOP!* Even at 6:00, Friedman *STILL* wants to talk to Lisandro about it.
@@xenaguy01 why tho? There’s other avenues to go through, I mean there’s cameras, the tournament officials, like why would it be okay to do that when there are so many other ways to handle that?
@@nickraad77 He went through the established procedures. The floor mgr was called, gave a ruling, and Friedman ignored that ruling. Lisandro had every right to tell him to shut his mouth or have it shut for him.
You can't call someone a thief or liar in public without 100% proof.The moment it was known that he was wrong and caused a disturbance and calling someone a cheat he should of been removed from the game. The problem is the game organisers ignoring it.
its a game about money... you cant remove somebody from the game for saying distasteful especially if they are voiding their money in the process, but you can however remove somebody for threats as that is against the law. the guy did something morally wrong by calling him a thief but you take it 20 steps further throwing around threats when youre angry.
I don't know where you get your information but if you have a strong suspicion that someone is not playing fair you don't need 100% proof before you speak up. If that was the case you could never say anything even if a player was stealing right under your nose because YOU don't have the proof. It's the house that has the proof if your lucky and they can figure it out.
You missed the part just prior to that when Lisandro first approached the Friedman and the floorman when he said something like "If you keep (something inaudible) buddy (more inaudible) Right? I'll take your teeth out!"
Saying that you saw someone rob someone and that you don't trust them, that was the beginning of the entire conflict. Then he just kept repeating it and egging him on. He got the response he deserved.
It's a very easy mistake to make. Ultimately it's the dealers responsibility. If they can't determine who hasn't put their ante in the middle then they have no option other than to short change the winner of the pot.
Prahlad is like that annoying bully kid on the playground who just can't keep his mouth shut, isn't smart enough to realize he needs to let it go, and then plays the victim when he gets called out for his behavior.
@@saltydog9321 Nah, typical rightie behavior- no consequences ebcourages dipshits to act out. No punishment for being an open racist? Time to hate on some additional minority groups. Or, losing the popular vote for president two years in a row? Better throw a hissy fit and have a giant recount that proves that you lost. No consequences? Then let’s have an insurrection with minimal consequences. Cowards and traitors.
@@gazorpazorp9798 Lol, the guy is flaming lefty worm. Like yourself, clearly. He offered poker lessons to anybody but white and asian people. You are the real racists and you prove it time and again.
@@gazorpazorp9798 it's kinda impressive just how often you guys get everything completely wrong. Even something like this, you get it totally backwards. The guy is a known flaming leftist, and you get it exactly wrong. Lol. I'm just glad i won't have to live in the cities with you after you finish destroying them. Destroyed the universities, destroy everything you touch
@@saltydog9321 You rightie npc’s keep spouting off the same script for 30 years. Yeah the cities are just devastated 🙄. The left is full of racists. 🤣. Up is down left is right. You guys are so easily fooled. No wonder the republicans manipulate you so easily. Remember you guys keep losing the popular vote for a reason. LoL
Everything Jeff did was in the right. Even the outburst was controlled but firm. It was not a one off, that guy kept at it and at a game without cameras and security would have gotten beaten
100% agree!!! And the way Friedman cried to the organizers about did you hear what he said to me. It was so pathetic. You can’t make an accusation like that then get offended when the man stands his ground
Friedman could easily have gone about this by just asking something vague like, “Is there an ante missing?” He could have requested a check without accusing anyone specific. Counting the pot before it was scooped would’ve shown the missing ante. Even though an ante was actually missing, if you’re not 100% you can’t accuse someone specifically or go at it so aggressively.
After watching this countless times over the years , I feel , Lisandro was within his rights . He may have overreacted but that was the way things were done as he grew up and Mama´s boy would just not shut up
Imagine what would of come of this if Friedman had said that to someone like Phil Hellmuth, Tony G., Mike Matusow, heaven forbid Doyle Brunson. Friedman wasn’t wrong in questioning Lissandro if he thought that he didn’t ante he was wrong in directly accusing Lissandro multiple times and not dealing directly right away with officials. It’s only when Lissandro after even politely telling him not to accuse him of robbing the pot again that when he finally told the kid he’d kick the shit out of him that Friedman panicked like a bitch. Guaranteed Lissandro would have taken this kid outside after day was done if he hadn’t stopped & kid knew it.
Friedman was outta line no matter right or wrong . And indeed in the end he was totally wrong and should’ve faced a penalty for being totally classless . And Dustin was a prick not speaking up honestly to admit he missed paying the ante .
It is for a first time I am watching Texas Hold'Em poker played with antes... Every time before I have always watched and played Texas Hold'Em poker with the blinds.
This incident may be the reasoning behind the WSOP changing the format. Now, instead of each player posting an ante, they now have a big blind ante. The person in the big blind now posts the table ante.
I believe it was just popularity and effenciency of the BB Ante, but I could also see this really reinforcing the push for BBA. I never liked regular antes: consolidated antes are SO much better, saves time and headaches.
I'm not even a pro poker player, but the reaction at 1:57 is a big enough tell for me that I'd probably believe Lisandro believes he threw his ante. Dude looks genuinely hurt.
To be quite honest, this is why I quit playing. It started to become a regular occurrence where a player at the table worked any angle just to upset another player. In the old days, they didn't put up with it. If you accused someone of stealing or cheating.....that's a problem right there man. That'd be considered the first swing.
This is true. We live in a world where bitc3hes and cons can do slimy things without fear of retribution so they play it up. In the 80s Vegas dude could have decked him and casino would have booted other guy out
@@moshesheckel7369 what are you talking about? You mean if I was accused of not throwing in an ante when I did.... I'd cry? You're not very intelligent are you?
The funny thing about this whole thing, is that the kid that was supposed to throw it in, knew he didn’t. If he just said something, this would never have happened.
I’m a dealer and well done to the dealer for doing her best to stop this BS. Many dealers these days don’t try to stop stupid arguments. I’m on side of Lisandro on this but what a stupid argument.
Yeah I won 4 in 2023 you just haven’t seen it yet, my time machine told me.. but I die right after otw home calling my mom excited to tell my family and swerve off the road because their was a woodpecker in the road and I drown in one inch of damp grass because the car flipped over on me.. they gave the wings to my ex girlfriend whom I was about to break up with the next day because I caught her cheating with one of the well know pros in his hotel sweet… so I haunted her beyond the grave and eventually after years of me doing that she committed her self in a psych ward where she has been since then.
So many great quotes. "I don't trust you, sir." "I'll take yer head off...boddy!" "Ah ya gonna stope?! Ah ya gonna stope?!" "Please don't threaten me in front of everyone."
Dude I lost all the respect for this Friedman guy when he faked called during 1minute clock countdown and survived main event just because tournament director didn't hear him say call. That was dirty.
I’m surprised that he has any moral credibility after that + this incident. It’s pretty obvious what his plan was in that spot. It was to call right as the countdown ended so that if he was right, he could appeal. The risk of having your hand called dead and not winning chips isn’t as bad as calling incorrectly and being out. Like he called, but after the countdown so he could quietly muck and say “well the tourney director has made his ruling!”. He even has social justice posturing. I don’t know how he can have friends in the poker world, if he does at all.
I vividly remember him and Jamie Gold being the biggest douches in that main event. It wasn't my favorite Main Event to watch, never seen someone get the run of cards Gold got.
I almost feel like that was planned to upset him. One of the best players at the table to become tilted. He knows better than to make such an accusation while hands are in play.
Friedman still didn't apologize after . Instead saying he wasn't a 100percent. Douche falsely accusing someone of intentionally missing a small ante chip. He didn't say he accidentally forgot to ante, but he was a robber. Him hiding behind the floor man tells you all you need to know.
Friedman is a punk. He was a one-hit wonder in 2009 and did pretty much nothing since. Poker tourns used to be professional, now it's littered with entitled brats.
They should install a soundproof "Squabble Booth" next to each table. Send both squabbling players in there to punch each other's faces in, then come back and play like grown-ups.
We can only answer one thing to people like you : Ok boomer. This is from 2006. So the young generation pictured here definitely is not the the young generation you're referencing and you're just using a clip to bash on a whole generation. Such a whiner move
He doesn't think he's a thief! He thinks he's a guy he can upset. And he was right. This wasn't about the chip. It was about trying to tilt Lisandro, get him off his game, and maybe kicked out. He almost succeeded.
@@commenter6722 In the old days he would been beating for this , a shame he didnt get knocked out. I mean if u think its fine to call someone a cheat for upsetting, then im fine with that person getting his teeth knocked out. Maybe he wont be a little wiesel next time :D
@@kristoffernilsson6043 he doesn't actually think the guy's a thief. He just wants to get under his skin. If the guy punches him he's out of the tournament. The reason he did this is to make the guy play badly. And the guy reacted perfectly. And I don't think it's ok. I think it's awful. Prahlad should be kicked out of the tournament for behaving like this. He's despicable. What gave you the idea I think it's ok?
""There's just got to be a place up ahead where men ain't lowdown, and poker is played fair. If it weren't, then what are all these cowboy songs about? " Buster Scruggs
Prahlad was out of line. you don't call someone a thief in front of everyone unless you are 100% sure. in the old days he would have gotten his head bashed in.
To see Friedman hiding behind the Floorman like a scaredy cat was fun to watch !!! He should get a penalty, banned for 3 Rounds or so from the table as it was clear that lisandro puts his ante in.
The management should have immediatley had a replay like most casinos when theres a dispute at a card table eg blackjak, Dustin should have been booted and chips forfeited, Friedman should have been told to unreservedly appologise and shut up or get booted Lisandro should have been told you were right but there will be fighting or you will go as well Strong management leads to a better game
PPL who think lisendro was in the wrong for threatening violence have obviously never played in a tournament let alone a high stakes one. Doesn't matter if you'll be found innocent or not the accusation alone could tarnish your reputation and effect future invites to tournaments.