Max Isola that is true however if there is a Bane Mexican wrestler mask then again I could create a bane costume with a muscle suit and bane armour that way I can create a new and improved bane costume exactly like the one as seen in this movie batman and robin
@Queevana agreed, plus he'd be more villainess if he had the Venom tubes in him and he can control the amount of Venom pumped into him for maximum strength
Actually in terms of the application of practical effects, Bane's transformation has held up surprisingly well. They used three different size guys and the in between transitions are fairly solid. He did look a little balloony for a second or two but I'd give it a pass as a quirk of a campy movie.
I like Tom Hardy's Bane and his look, but I wish the Ra's Al Ghul/League of Shadows connection hadn't been forced. his backstory and motivations are strong enough to stand on their own and be its own threat to Batman and Gotham as a whole. Talia and co. didn't need to be in the film.
He looks the same as the comic when he is using the venom but also in this film he looks wimp without the venom and in the original comic he have a strong physical body without the venom since he lived most his miserable life in the prison, he only using his venom in a fight or to punish someone so he can controled anytime but here in this film he just 24/7 using the venom which made look a stupid monster.
@@sunsetman22 I think that Christopher Nolan made the connection between Bane & Ras Al Ghul cause he took the inspiration from batman stories like: - Batman Legacy. - Bane of the Demon. Which there are connections between him and Ras Al Ghul. Also Nolan took some inspirations from Batman stories to build Dark Knight Rises like: - Knightfall. - No Man's Land. - The Dark Knight Returns. - The Vengeance of Bane. - Batman: The Cult. - Catwoman: Her Sister's Keeper. - Batman: Son of The Demon.
He was really strong in Rises, Nolan just wanted to keep him grounded in reality. I agree though no movie has done an amazing job at portraying bane for his intelligence or strength
He ACTED strong in Rises, but even after Hardy did all that work bulking up, he was only 220 lbs. About 170 lbs less than this Bane, Swenson. Heck, Hardy even had to wear 3 inch boot rises cause he's a short guy, and they needed to use camera angles and the vest to give him the appearance of muscle and size. He is basically poser-Bane in the muscle area.
black panther he wasn’t stupid lol he was actually very intelligent but just followed orders Most of the things he did were his plannings just for the result that talia al ghul wanted
Bane here played by Robert "Jeep" Swenson who at one point was a professional wrestler. Steroids and his physical size became too much for his heart and he died a short time after this was filmed.
'Ultimate Solution' in World Championship Wrestling originally named 'Final Solution' but had to be renamed due to that name being the same name Hitler had given to the Holocaust
When I describe Bane in this film, I'm basically describing a prehistoric caveman rather than a master tactician, with years of training physically and mentally
They really didn’t understand the character, so they decided to just make him the glorified muscle while focusing on the other two villains. If they went by the comics, Bane would’ve probably revealed himself to be the true mastermind of the film, manipulating the other villains for his own goals.
Agreed sadly I prefer the TAS Bane especially since it's way more faithful and loyal As well as much more enjoyable watching him get hatefully obsessed with Batman and even made a team bent on ruling over gotham City with 2 other mad geniuses
This scene traumatized me as a kid and haunted me for years, but when I grew up and watched this again I could see the silliness of the movie with adult understanding. It was kind of liberating to see that I was afraid of this silliness all those years ago. Confront your fears and you will be set free.
@@Clowncentral101 First I made sure I was ready to face my fear of watching the scene. I thought it through: "Am I really ready to possibly feel very uncomfortable?" What frightened me the most was that I remembered the child's fear I felt back then when I saw this scene. When I felt "ok, I will try to watch this", I put the volume very, very low. A big reason for my childhood fear was the noise he makes, it was terrifying to hear what a human experiment does to a person (even when the movie is very silly, as a kid I ofc couldn't understand that.) Thirdly, I used the mouse cursor to preview the scenes (place the cursor on the gray video timeline) so I could see when the disturbing action happened and I thus I was ready for it. In the end I noticed I was able to raise the volume back up and actually watch the scene, I learned how differently you see things as an adult compared to being a child. It was liberating to have faced my fear. Hope this helps!
@@allanromero5496 WTF bane from gotham is not bane yet and he is better that this shit.Also bane from gotham may become better that tom hardys bane so...How about you STFU
This is the ultimate background movie. A perfect movie to just have on in the background when hanging out with friends so you can occasionally look over and watch something fun and entertaining.
“Ah you think "Joel Schumacher" is your ally? You merely saw "Batman Forever". I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see "Batman & Robin" until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!”
All Bane said during this movie was: 1) *"ARRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!"* 2) *"URRGGGHHHGHGHHGHHH!"* 3) *"ARGHGHGHHHHHHGGGGHHHHH!!!!!"* 4) *"ARRRRRRRRRGHHH!!"* 5) *"UUURRRRRGHHGHHGGHHHHHGHHHHGHH!!!!"* ...........................................
Honestly this is how Bane is supposed to look. Tom Hardy’s bane was smaller but spoke just like Bane. This bane didn’t speak but make noises. If they would’ve used this sized bane with Hardy’s voice over mixed together... GENIUS!!!
I agree. This was the first Bane I ever saw as a kid and even though he's a lumbering bulk of dumb muscle. He holds a special place in my heart, like you said.
"Ahh, you think darkness is your ally. You merely adopted the dark, I was born in it. Molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man by then it was nothing to me but blinding. The shadow betrays you because they belong to me." Damn that was a good line...
Derek Powers I’m not sure if your issue with a character taking orders from a woman stems primarily from your obvious real life insecurities, however in regards to comic accuracy it actually made sense for Bane to take orders from Talia. Bane was obsessed with Talia and in love with her, anything he did he did with intents of winning both her affections and assuming some control of the league of assassins, so Nolan actually managed to get that aspect of Bane more or less spot on except he chose to change it to more of a protective sibling type of love seeing as he saved her from death in the prison as a child. Either way people seem to regard Talia as someone who is feeble, she’s the daughter of Ras Al Ghul, why on Earth would the remaining league members not take orders from her or hold her in some high regard?
@@christopherjohnson5236 He looks like him, but he doesn't act anything like him. Even then, the look isn't even 100% accurate. Since when was Bane green?
Bane is supposed to be intelligent and as smart as Batman, even discovering his identity and breaking his back in the Batcave in Knightfall, but in this movie, he is a mindless goon that works for Ivy.
Me too! I was literally traumatised by this part when I saw it on TV, it scared the hell out of me and gave me nightmares for a long while afterwards. Now, 20 years later, though I can now see this film as the steaming pile of shit that it is and cannot take it the least bit seriously, I'm still shaken to see him tortured like that >
There comes a point where you can hear chemicals 1st physically interact with his muscles. Every single muscle was rapidly expanding without natural limits. That's when squeeling starts. Antonio is just at the point of losing control and then the venom overrides his ability to resist it. I think he let's go and the overdosing begins with popping, squelching and ripping etc.
Inject an emaciated guy with serum in the Marvel universe and you get a superhero. Inject the same guy with serum in the DC universe and you get a super-villain.
Well, they got the overall look right, and properly incorporated the venom drug into the story. They just made the mistake of making him a lackey instead of saving him for a future film where he could be a main villain.
This Bane made me write off Bane as a forgettable muscle lackey character. He was so forgettable. Poison Ivy and Mr Freeze were on the posters and VHS cover, but no Bane to be seen. I had zero interest in Bane because of this movie. I saw comic book covers with him breaking Batman's back, but I don't really remember actually reading them. Think I only saw him once in the 90's cartoon, and I must have caught it after he was done talking because I only remember him fighting. Then the Nolan film was coming out and I was confused. How could they make a movie with that idiot character as the main villain? So I look Bane up and... damn have they done a major disservice to the character outside of comics. With how intelligent he is, he should be a very threatening character. I don't think the Nolan film completely did him justice, but it was certainly the closest I'd seen, because this is a disaster.
Yep, because of this version some people forget that Bane is actually supposed to be super smart, not just a super strong monster jacked up on Venom. He's supposed to be both combined.
I always loved this version when I was a kid and I still do today. True he wasn’t supposed to be green but it something different. Creating him is exactly like the comics
While this Bane holds a place in my heart for being the first interpretation I saw, this is so far from his character in the comics. Bane here behaves more like Solomon Grundy, or even Killer Croc depending on how much of a lackey he is in a given story. Bane is usually a master planner and tactician, not a secondary antagonist.
@@josephsummers2427 No. Congestive heart failure. We're talking about a guy who at 6'1 weighed over 400 pounds. He had severe chest pains and a doctor told him to drop 100 pounds. He agreed, but died 8 days later. He was in his 40s.
You've got to admit, Bane's design for this film was amazing. Re-do this for the DCEU but with his comics persona and it'll be a smash. The costume designs and special effects in this film were really well done. Had it been similar in tone to Batman Returns and maybe saving Bane for a later film, I think it would've been a hit.
I remember when I was a kid I literally watched every DC movie and draw the origins of either villains and superheroes just for my friends, these movies were my childhood and it’s great to suddenly remember them during quarantine
Actually she kind of does, I wonder what it would be like if Margot Robbie (Hopefully) played Poison ivy, (Not in this movie but a different Batman movie.)
His look was really cool, but I don't understand why the character wasn't written better. We have a muscleman here on the mental level of a two-year-old who can only say his own name. As I said, it's not the actor's fault, the scriptwriters really screwed him up.
@@KYoung-kj7hr At the same time, having Batman and Robin go against *3* highly intelligent super villains might have been too much for one movie, hence Bane was made to be more of "the muscle" for Ivy
Honestly, out of the dozens of times I've watched this movie, I'll never forget these 4 Minuets and Fifty-One Seconds. It's just 100% completely silly & a cinema masterpiece at the same time.
Jeep swenson played bane. People say he was the biggest man they've ever seen in person. Also heard he was taking an absurd amount of painkillers. Like more than someone can imagine due to his sheer size
The way Antonio screams and struggles as he’s getting chained down, and then his screaming when the venoms being pumped into his brain, traumatized tf outta 9 year old me
@@jamesturner8059 His reaction (spitefully spitting on the floor and deadly glare) to Woodrue calling him a volunteer all but states that he was forced to participate in this experiment against his will.
It's crazy how quickly Bane became popular despite only having just recently debuted in the comics by the time this movie came out. I imagine that many fans were excited to see him shine in this movie after seeing how the batman animated series handled him.
Imagine if both Batman Forever and Batman & Robin had been made with Tim Burton style, but in this scene, the venom experiment failed, but there was a post-credits scene where men searched the ruins of the lab and found some intact venom samples and placed them in a briefcase that said "Project Gilgamesh", setting up a fifth film inspired by Knightfall and No Man's Land with Bane as the MAIN villain and maybe Scarecrow and Harley Quinn as supporting villains. I bet audiences would've gone wild in the cinema 😁😁
Bane deserves respect. this is one of the first opponents of Batman, who through tactics was able to defeat and turn him into a cripple. however, unfortunately it continues to be perceived as a dumb mountain of muscle
2:13😂 Kinda the reverse with Bane in the Nolan movies when he says in reverse to a doctor screaming, “Now is not the time for fear doctor…that comes later…” 3:53💪
Because of my empathy being linked to my autism this scene has always been hard for me to stomach. My brain’s processing of empathy when watching a movie, is always to put myself in the shoes of the person I’m looking at. This one terrified me as a kid and still does today. Think about it cries of pain and for mercy drowned, screams of agony muffled and in the end you’re stuck inside a malformed body that was once your own. And to add insult to this sorrowful misery, some clinically insane physician thinks to prolong your respite from your torment post transformation, under the guise of, “Showing Off For Daddy!”
I think the other way around, I love seeing the sadism of this scene, Antonio being tortured and humiliated and it's pleasurable for me, seeing him screaming in agony and him shaking and moaning in excruciating pain is really good, it all gets even better when you see that the doctor's lack of empathy, "time to scream" followed by a slap on the head
0:23 Pamela Isley 1:30 Antonio Diego 2:16 steroids! 2:26-2:32 monster 3:13 turbo 3:45 😆 3:53 bane! 3:58 I remember meeting John Glover at LA convention center, since 2018. 4:49 you psycho!
Growing up playing Arkham asylum and watching this movie on repeat I thought bane was pure strength and no brains boy was j wrong and in for a massive surprise when I started reading comics
At the time, it was reported that in his preparation for the role, the wrestler Jeep Swenson took a much higher amount of steroids than he had previously done in order to become as massive as possible. Sadly, it would seem, the dosage was ultimately fatal.
It wasn't at the time, it was his entire career. The man felt he needed steroids to sell himself and they ruined him utterly. www.thefreelibrary.com/BATMAN+FAT+MAN+KILLED+BY+STEROIDS%3B+25-stone+star+dies+at+38.-a064828247
They went overboard with the villains. Picked 3 of the smartest Batman villains who most likely wouldn't team up or allow one or the other be the leader. Why not cut down to one as well as just have someone voice Bane off screen like the did with Vader? Would have been exactly like the comics. Everything was there besides the intelligence
If they had kept the dialogue to a minimum with no constant growling or roaring and given him strategic intelligence, this would have been easily the best live action portrayal ever of Bane. They got everything about his look and origin near enough spot on from the comics, it's just the writing and execution was poor. Thank god for Chris Nolan and Tom Hardy.
in fact this whole scene is disturbing in general, a man is kidnapped by politicians and billionaires and made a "volunteer" for a scientist, he has holes drilled in his head, tied with chains to a table, and then injected with a product that makes his whole body tremble in pain and he can only scream in agony, all this with the aim of selling him in a macabre auction
