Creepy Bad Endings # 46 Remake 

This is what everyone was waiting for as soon as they announced the remake

The middle age voices add SO MUCH to the feel. It's absolutely incredible.

I didn't think the Middle Ages chapter could get even better, but hearing Oersted talk for the first time sent shivers down my spine.

Oersted is such a great villain, and for once, his "redemption" didn't ruin him unlike so many other villains! Writers for somer eason always try and redeem, either in death or other, the most vile villains that have no sympathy. Oersted isn't like that. You get to play as him, to see his pain, to behold what led him to the path of dark. He's a great tragic figure. Letting him regain his mind and realizing his faults, dealing the final blow to his own hatred, before fading away with the warning all could become like him is amazing, because it doesn't undermine his tragedy. Heck, him only being sane in his final moments almost makes it more tragic. Man what a game and remake.

Imagine being so envious of your "friends" success, that you plan to fake your death so you can Stockholm Syndrome his wife and then trick him into murdering his own King so he becomes hated by his own people, and when he tries to redeem himself and save the day, you Stockholm'ed her so well, that she commits suicide after your death and then you drive that friend into a hateful, evil "satanic" rage, that effects all timezones in the universe. And people say that Kain Highwind was jealous of Cecil, please. He was nice compared to this.

Man, Oboromaru is the most powerful hero of the bunch. Not only did he stomp Ode Iou even after an all powerful Lord of Dark assumed direct control, he beat him so hard that the puppetmaster couldn't even load his save state! Jokes aside, I recently watched a theory that Oersted breaking from Sin of Odio to deliver the finishing blow is a metaphor for how regardless of how much you try to help someone overcome hatred, they need to make the final step. It made me appreciate the scene a lot more.

I would interpret the seperation of Odio and Oersted as more symbolic than anything. Representing Oersted giving up the hate that had infected him, turning himself against it, but not really becoming anything seperate from what he had become. He does still die as a result of that final fight after all; one could interpret his final act of killing Odio as killing himself with it. ...Honestly, I think that additional scene just makes his story more sad. All he needed was for anyone to care about him, to give him a reason not to take that path. Those heroes working together to fight him was enough to drive him off his path, back to where he started, but... at that one critical moment, he had no one. Literally not even one person. He didn't have the strength to resist the hatred he'd (rightfully!) gained purely on his own, and so, his story ended as it did.

Oersted literally came out of his own hatred. Because in some way, he felt the heroes were helping him. They didn't kill him before. They went the extra mile to save him, even after he told them he is responsible of the Odio incarnations that made their lives miserable. Also, it was cathartic to deal the finishing blow on Sin of Odio with Oersted's level 16 technique. Oersted's ending is him having won, and while he may have laughed, he now has nothing else to hate, hence why he is not there as Odio in the ending. Also, try opening the map in Oersted's final chapter. It's... Visual storytelling.

fun fact Odio's cape is in fact Straybows according to the designer.

Goodness, that Streibough voice actor had fun with his lines.

Oersted may have been the one aiming to destroy the universes of Live A Live, but the blame ultimately falls to his friend Streibough, who betrayed both Oersted and the people of the world over petty revenge. Let it be known that Streibough was the true demon king, before the crown was forced upon Oersted.

The "@!#£ off, old man!" line got me.

Ironically, Live A Live wouldn't happen if Streibough did not ruin Oersted's life. He was the source of it all to begin with and the main reason why Oersted became Odio in the first place. Streibough made the people lose faith and hate Oersted when he killed the King by accident when he thought that was the real Demon Lord and the fact that Streibough made the Princess fall in love with him instead only fuels more fire in the mix. Lets also not forget that he purposely faked his own death just to be with the princess & coax her for his ideals and to become the actual Demon Lord for Oersted to kill later on in the story. Congrats Streibough, you have just become one of the biggest scumbags in the history of Jrpgs.

Streibough is basically the real villian

56:40 I think it's less than they're different entities and more that Oersted managed to metaphorically break free of his hatred, which in turn let him physically break free from the power of Odio.

The thing that makes Armageddon even worse is when you consider how disciplined Oersted was with it. He could've used it at any time, really. And yet, he didn't. Granted, his reasons weren't good - he wanted mankind to suffer, which they can't do in death. But still, he only used Armageddon upon either triumphing against the heroes or at death's door with no other options. Which begs the question: Presume Streibough had become the Lord of Dark. Remember all his hatred, all his envy, aimed at one man. If Streibough had become the Demon King instead, after trying and failing to get one over Oersted... do you think he would have hesitated to pull the trigger on Armageddon?

Isnt it kinda sad, that everything bad that happened in live a live was basicly Streibough's fault? Such a amazing game, i also liked how they gave us way more then we have asked for

>shows ending where you didn't get every hero together >Akira from the near future chapter is the missing one Gee I wonder why

56:32 - Regarding your complaint here, i should note that the identity of the Sin of Odio is made ambiguous on purpose, it could either be that you are fighting the original form of the Lord of Dark before it incarnated into Oersted or the personification of Oersted's hatred made a physical form. Akira's remark about him calling all of the darkness of the world to him implies the latter.

The bad ending for killing Oersted is definitely enhanced in this version. In the version shown here, you really get the sense that Lei feels like she just threw away all her character development.

Love when games reveal the true final boss theme ever since the first trailer (Pokemon Sun and Moon, Xenoblade Chronicles X, etc.). Now Live a Live joined that club, awesome.

Aside from the vastly better graphics, I'd say the best change in the remake was having voice acting in combat. It benefited everyone, especially Akira and any character in the Middle Ages

oersteds story is honestly so ahead of its time. I imagine some horrific plot twist like that would be something a modern indie RPG would do, smth like undertale, but they were doing that shit all the way back then

I finished the game with every character found without getting all the weapons (only weapons for the 4 I chose) and I can confirm: they are not required for the true ending.

Imagine how funny that dramatic final speech the player's chosen character gives to Oersted is if they pick Pogo or Cube. "These hands of mine... stained with the blood of the innocent..." *Monkey screeching*

Lots of good new stuff in the remake from the more personal dialogue with the heroes after Oersted is freed from his hatred, the new sprites that make him look really cool as Odio, the more fancy way of talking in the middle ages making it seem more like a tragic play, and the final battle as a whole where everyone comes together to stop the avatar of hatred itself. One final interesting detail to note is that during the end when Oersted is having his little walk around Lucrece in the sad ending, he has gone back to his old Knightly look. This along with his desperate deluded scream that he is the one who should be believed in just makes it clear that underneath all that hatred and anger, he is a broken man who just wants to be accepted again.

Kinda hoping for a remake of the Distant Future story too, and kinda hoping the dialouge is a bit different, because with how this game got remade, the Behemoth feels more terrifying, cause you can hear it charging towards you, rather then it just being in a single room. Also, the loading screens near the end, adds a little bit more creepiness to the chapter as well. And finally, Kato's voice actor near the end, with the one little speech, super good

I found something interesting before Streibough's "death" during the part where you are about to escape the cave, in the main menu his character is separated with Oersted and Uranus. Pretty neat and small detail they gave.

The game got remade, this totally justifies a remake of one of your best episodes! Thank you for taking the time to make this, now onto enjoying the watch!

The Nostalgia hits hard here..in two ways

Also, “I managed to come across a special and unique bad ending!” *Game Over* Just kidding, I know it’s the softlock.

I love the way how they used the Spanish equivalent of "Hate" into a badass Lord of Dark

The english VA is FABULOUS , it’s the same level as xenoblade or persona.

Uranus's voice actor is a GOAT. Loved the delivery in the jail scene.

Here is the comment I will edit as I watch, to give my input. - You do not need every ultimate weapon to get the best ending. I got it without getting Pogo's _or_ Oboro's. - The part where everyone gets to pitch in was an addition I loved. Even Oersted managed to scrape himself out from under his immense hatred! (My take is that they are in fact one and the same, but the magic he absorbed manifested that hate and rage that he blinded himself with into that form... and, with that, he could see past it - see what he could not before. He was able to face his deeds and be willing to atone, instead of continuing to believe what he had at the end of his chapter.) - As for Sad End (Alone, Victorious), I think it's even a little bit sadder here. He's still desperate to have someone believe in him; he cries out, with all his might... and we know none will - or even _can_ - answer. This calls back to the words of Hasshe and Uranus, making an even sweeter sorrow.

Lowkey I still always wished they'd given us the ability to stop Odio from even forming. Like a "True True" ending where the heroes realize the only way to truly beat Odio was to stop Oerstead from becoming him to begin with. Maybe I'm just sentimental for Oerstead but there aren't many antagonists I've ever genuinely felt as bad for as him.

BTW: The JP language option has the VAs of Domon Kashuu, Master Asia, Solid Snake, Shinji Ikari, Ryoma Nagae, and Koji Kabuto (both shin and I believe classic versions) for various characters.

oersted turning against himself and helping the team made me audibly fucking cheer

19:02 my head canon here is that Oersted runs from place to place assaulted by knights at every turn, and eventually, feeling hopeless and with nowhere else to go, he turns himself in since his life is pretty much over.

Garfield, be wary of Odie... Odie O'DOG!

I just did this part of the game tonight, and I was very impressed with how the remake handled this stuff. And if you were wondering, I went left-to-right, row-by-row, starting from the future and ending in prehistory. The last victim of Odio was Pogo's woman. True evil LOL

I love how each of the characters at the end reflects Oersted's goals: Pogo representing his love for Alethea, Cube for his hope in the one's he serves, Sundown for protecting those in need, the Master for taking up the mantle of successor, etc. It's interesting to see how he take's out his rage for how the world wronged him against those that were able to fulfill his goals.

God, I LOVE the remastered OST of this game. It's done such a great job of bringing back the same feelings I felt when I first experienced Live-A-Live (through the original CBE #46 funnily enough)

I never played the original, so I only knew of it through your prior video. Soon as I heard they were remaking it, I KNEW you'd do this. So watching this, my thoughts especially were one and one only. "They did it, the beautiful bastards. They went harder than the original did."

I was kind of hoping you would go into bad endings for the other chapters. Some of them are minimalistic like Pogo just dying with Gori laughing, but there are others that actually have more in depth endings like Cube and Oboromaru. Still a great video!

The voice acting adds so much to this.

They tried, bless their souls, the dialogue was updated and everything, but Alethea/Alicia's still an idiot. And to think, all Squenix needed to do was make her say (or somehow imply, with a gesture, a scene, whatever) she loved Straybow/Streibough back before the tournament even began. But even then, seeing her "beloved" Straybow stop Oersted from saving her the first time AND making him kill her dad... yyyeah, not a good look. At the very least, the final battle is now even more awesome. Thanks for making this video, Sir Git. Your original video was what convinced me to get the game in the first place

One thing you might have missed: the map for the middle ages is still usable for both final chapters. It won't be of much use, but is still a neat touch.

a little thing to note in the original game is after straybow falls oersted has a depressed sprite.. It changes when alethia/Alicia appears she essentially berated him while he was down..

When I first saw the announcement trailer for the Live a Live remake, I checked out my window for flying pigs, because I, like a lot of people, thought it would NEVER get remade! I balked at the $50 price tag when it came out, though - it's a great game, but it's too darn short to be worth that much. It did make me pick up the Aeon Genesis fan translation of the original, though. As for this Creepy Bad Ending this makes me think that Odio is more than a mere demon - he's more akin to a Lovecraftian entity in the sense that he is a living concept that transcends space and time. Odio is hatred itself, and he can't truly be destroyed unless all hatred were to disappear - all Oersted did in that final moment was unchain himself from Sin of Odio and then destroy its form.

56:40 I see this more like two sides of the same coin, with Oersted realizing his worth and separating from the madness that brought Odio; like how in Binding of Isaac the various dead variants of Isaac that are present, yet each are their own selves, given how they're among of what Isaac lets go in the final ending with his ascension.

This episode was actually what got me into LiveAlive , so I'm glad to see it get the remake it deserves. Thanks for introducing me to one of my favorite games ever, git!

Thanks to you, whoisthisgit, I went and purchased the Live A Live remake yesterday. It's great that there are numerous quality of life changes to make this game more fun to play.

Knew this was gonna happen at some point! And the timing couldn't be anymore perfect for me!

Man, they had a lot of fun with the sprites. There's so much detail, and some are original to the remake (like the Odio ones).

This isn’t that relevant to the video, but I’m not sure if you’re going to revisit Creepy Time Limits 10, so I’m just going to warn the people who haven’t played the Wild West chapter yet: They changed Gatling Shots. It can shoot horizontally now. Hopefully others don’t have to learn the hard way like I did.

I do like how they handled Oersted's arc with the new final boss. It was already handled very well in the original, a tragic end for him that worked while still humanizing him a bit, but allowing him to finally put an end to the embodiment of his hatred that spurred the main conflict of the game into motion while still having him die helps give him some more closure; allowing him to be the hero he used to be while still perishing due to the suffering he caused. I don't think one ending is inherently better than the other, but I'm still very happy with how they handled it in the remake instead of having some boring redemption for him that allows him to keep living. also good on you for choosing best disciple lei On a more personal note, it was your original videos on Live a Live that surged my interest for the game (along with many others, I'm sure). Who knows if I'd even bother buying the remake if I didn't see your videos on the original version. Thanks for that.

If they think I'm a villain, then let me be a villain.

This came out a lot sooner than I expected. Your original video was responsible for me discovering Live A Live in the first place, and I'm glad it did. In my opinion, the remake is an improvement over the original though I am disappointed in the lack of new content and the addition of a new game plus (that would make replaying the final chapter with every character a lot more bearable). Still though, while there could had been more improvements and additions, the Live A Live Remake is how do you make a "faithful" remake of an old game. Staying true to the story, settings, gameplay, etc, while fixing the more blatant issues with the original. I've already beaten the final chapter twice now (with Akira and Sundown) and I look forward to tackling the game again sometime later this year. Anyways, good video and thank you for introducing Live A Live to me.

This channel. This channel introduced me to this game. When the trailer for the remake popped up, I recognized Masaru's training room and Mount Aspiration. Thanks for showing me this game.

I saw a take somewhere in the comments about Oersted breaking free from Odio and its hatred, and I wholly agree with this view : it symbolizes how, even with the efforts of the protagonists, Oersted was the one who needed to step forward and free himself from Odio. I still believe that Oersted and Odio are the same, they definitely are. However, after observing what drives each protagonist to not succumb to hatred, he understood that nothing was to be gained out of a thirst for vengeance and hatred, and so, he broke free of the hatred that consumed him before, and slayed it on his own. The other characters helped him, but ultimately, Oersted needed to be the one to rid himself of his own hatred.

Gorefield vs. Odio: Whoever wins, we lose.

The voice acting is actually really good.

18:32 I'd love to read a fanfic where that kid gets away from his parents, catches up to Oersted, and saves him from the path of despair he later treads.

45:53 Seems that we both agree that the original theme was better. The new one's bells only give me chills as they fade out, but the original's chiptune counterpart really sold the devastating consequence of your failure.

Instead of surrendering at the castle, you can go to Archon's Roost. When you leave back to the forest, you'll be arrested by a group of soldiers, which'll confirm that you're the Demon Lord saying that you got caught leaving from there, as they think it's your base. Also, if you die in the boss rush, you get the normal game over. Blame Odie Oldbright. Also, the ultimate weapons are not needed, I'm pretty sure. Also also, I, too, despise wasps with my entire soul.

Fuck yes I knew it was coming after the last Live-A-Live video

Just a quick realization because it’s not quite as clear in the original but it definitely is clear in the remake. In the second bad ending you showed, where Oersted was killed, the heroes did return home, but they didn’t deal with the main problem. In this game, when the boss of each chapter dies, it releases red smoke. And with what happens in the true ending in this game, it’s made clear that this whole time, killing the bosses merely just destroyed the vessel that “Odio” had taken over. The reason why the smoke didn’t come out of Streibough when he died was because he wasn’t the only one in that scene with built up hatred, as Streibough manipulated everything so that the cycle of hatred could continue. And from what his ghost says in Akira’s dungeon, he didn’t even realize what he was doing By constantly rejecting hate, the heroes drove Oersted crazy enough so that he gathered enough hatred that it formed into a physical mass (the same one that Hasshe fought and defeated years ago) so it could once again be damaged and destroyed, so that the endless cycle of hate could finally be broken. Odio is a truly scary villain. He’s not a specific entity, he’s a force of nature. it’s very easy to give in to hatred, especially when you’ve hit rock bottom. And it can make you do horrible things that you may not think are horrible because you justify them as recompense for your past experiences. Every chapter boss in this game has experienced some “justifying moment” (yes, even Odo) and this is a regular thing that happens very frequently in our world… Odio and Oersted are not different entities, they just became different entities when the amount of hatred Oersted was feeling became and entity comprised of nothing except hatred. Something that any of us can become when we feel enough of it We are Odio. Undying hate. Unyielding rage.

trivia: Dio means god in italian So the name odio may have a double meaning, Being God of hate.

Glad to have this back, for however long we may.

It was bound to happen sooner or later... and I have the feeling that you might do a redux version for the Cube segment you already have in the OG SFC version. Edit: Square-Enix might have felt proud about the Armageddon whenever you fail to beat Odio or during the reversed Odio incarnations rematches you perform the move... however... the impact of it is worse than the OG SFC version.

Yeahhhh boi It's all come full circle! You (and Boltage McGammar) were how I found out about this game in the first place, and It's secured a place in my heart ever since. It's a beautiful feeling, y'know?

I love the fact that you actually used a remix of the usual Double Dragon 2 music you used for the end of the video; not sure if you thought on doing it because the video came out as a whopping 1-hour long video, or because you wanted it to match with the video being a remake...but whatever reason you had for doing it, it felt like a great touch to end off this huge one (specially after having watched the original years ago).

I must’ve watched nearly a hundred of your videos, but this might be the first game you’ve reviewed that I finished first. Your creepy bad endings on Oersted, and your other two videos that had Live A Live in them might be why I was so quick to buy the remake, so thanks for showing off such a great game!

As soon as I finished the game I knew I wanted you to talk about the ending. It was already great but they made it even better!

I do prefer the true ending of this game than the original, I'm a sucker for redemptions , and cliches , Giving this game a 2nd chance with a remake was worth the wait and we'll worth the changes at least for me , I know others don't share the sentiment. Even then the original is still there for them to enjoy that instead

Just want to say that I discovered live a live through your channel like waaay back when you posted the original creepy bad endings 46 and I fell in love with your content. It's amazing to still see you posting and just want to let you know that you're awesome and I love your content

I have to give Git credit for introducing me to this great game

"Ódio" means hatred in portuguese, very close but has that sign

Great, now I get to feel even worse for these people because they actually have voices now

SO Odio is just just a Final Fantasy Dark Falz? Oof, that makes Odio a very big threat indeed.

The voice acting is REALLY good.

"Ódio" is hatred in Portuguese too! Only in our language, the word has a accent " ´ " in the first "o"!

You are the reason I knew what this was when it was announced and I looked forward to your run-through again.

It’s gonna be so weird hearing the gunslinger talk without saying “zehahaha”

Man, I've been waiting for this. I wonder if there's more old Git's Live A Live video that could be remake with the remastered

JUST AS I SEARCHED FOR THE LIVE A LIVE REMAKE PLAYTHROUGH AND DOWNLOADED THE DEMO!

Honestly your live a live video was your magnum opus in my opinion. First video of yours i ever watched. A brilliant video for a brilliant game. Thanks for doing this 💙

You do not need to collect all of the dungeon items to get the best ending

Yes! This is what i had been waiting for ever since the remake announced👌👌👌

Really like the “remake” videos you’ve been doing for the LAL remake, especially since I first found you through those original videos!

early enough for the quality to still be 360p lesgoooo

I have been waiting for this masterpiece of a video since the release of the game!

for this video to exist is just the cherry on top, thank you so much for introducing this game to me all those years ago

I know of Live A Live from you, and now that it got a remake on Switch, I want to play it even knowing the endings. And this remake is incredible, the voice acting and updated graphics look marvelous. I can't wait to stream this game for my friends :D

Glad to see the best videos here getting remade

This video. The thing I desired the most after witnessing the trailer. You bought me on this game, made me get so much into this story... And now it came full circle. I bet many others in this channel feel the same, and I'm so grateful to your channel for that. Such an experience. And... Damn. This was my first look into the medieval chapter and it's stunning. I don't like the new dialogue so much. The old one was more direct with the messages and I feel this ancient, more refined english kind of detaches from the emotion it had originally. 100% personal taste, of course. The voices, however... Well, I like most of them(Straibough is stellar), but Alethea and specially Oersted(regular. He's great as Odio) sound VERY off to me. I gotta look for the scenes in Japanese. Also that new final boss... That's so damn cool, how in the heck was that possible

what a beautiful remake of a beautiful game. it was this and your other live a live videos that got me into this game, and i'm so glad for that. i'm happy to see remakes of your videos, too! thanks for introducing me to this and much else :]

I've been acompanying your channel for a few good years, only thing to say is: Keep up the good work!

Just gotta say I flipped my shit when I saw the announcement for this game and the only reason I did was because of your original creepy bad endings video props to such a good channel