Cregan Stark: HERO or THUG???

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Dive into the complex legacy of Cregan Stark, a figure who embodied the stark (pun intended) honor of House Stark. Was Cregan merely a warrior driven by a thirst for blood in a time that cried out for peace? Or was his unyielding stance a necessity, dictated by the harsh codes of the North? While Ned Stark may have tempered Stark honor with compassion, Cregan's actions during the Dance of the Dragons suggest a different interpretation of what it means to be honorable.
Cregan Stark's tenure as Lord of Winterfell and his role in the tumultuous period following the Dance of the Dragons reveal much about the rigid, often uncompromising nature of Stark honor. His decision to march south, even as the realm began to stitch itself back together, poses the question: what is the cost of honor? For the smallfolk and peasants, the price was steep, bearing the brunt of a conflict prolonged by Stark's iron will.
This video explores Cregan Stark's indelible mark on Westerosi history-the Hour of the Wolf, his brief but momentous tenure as Hand of the King, and the aftermath that almost saw the realm plunged back into war. Did Cregan bring a greatsword to a peace treaty, or was he acting out of duty, bound by the Pact of Ice and Fire? Join us as we delve into the story of a man whose legacy is as cold and sharp as the winter winds of the North. Like and subscribe for more deep dives into the histories and lore of Westeros. Let the tale of Cregan Stark, the man who could have been the harbinger of a second war, begin.
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@BryndenBloodraven 10 дней назад

An opportunist but importantly liked by the fans.

@ecm95 8 дней назад

An opportunist that gave up all his power when he could’ve essentially ruled through aegon the younger?

@BryndenBloodraven 8 дней назад

@@ecm95 hand of the king is administrative position. Do you think he had enough patience for that responsibility?

@ecm95 8 дней назад

@@BryndenBloodraven why would that matter he wouldn’t have to do anything he he didn’t want to. If he was an opportunist like you claim that’s the biggest opportunity of all. He could fill the council with people he could delegate administrative tasks to. He could surround himself with people he trusts to run the capital just like he would at home. And use the opportunity to gain power, fame, wealth, control, marriage alliances, dragon eggs, whatever he wanted. And he did none of that. He got rid of the betrayers and oath breakers, got a wife, gave aegon a trustworthy council, and went home.

@alessiodandolo1460 7 дней назад

I believe he didn't have the courage to assume this position. I don't see him as an opportunist, I see him as a coward disguised as a hero. If we focus on the superficial elements, we are pushed to see him as a great, charismatic and honorable warrior, when all the facts show a coward incapable of doing anything concrete

@ecm95 7 дней назад

@@alessiodandolo1460 what facts show he’s a coward? He rode down with his men when they were done preparing for winter and he sent an advance group that turned the tides beforehand. Then he did everything he did in spite of the fact that he may have to fight the lannisters and high towers

@GoldRoadTraveler Месяц назад

Apologies for the weird and sudden rise in volume at 1:28. Some weird glitch I encountered in Premiere I thought I had fixed. Infuriating.

@peteperkins3859 9 дней назад

The saying about flipping a coin and the Targaryens seems to apply to Starks also.

@HuevoBendito 12 дней назад

Good breakdown. Excited for the upcoming season!

@marcor6403 Месяц назад

5 star editing and very captivating! Keep going bro!

@GoldRoadTraveler Месяц назад

Appreciate the kind words brother!

@jaycal6055 Месяц назад

Diggin the narration👍🏽

@drewvandemark7500 18 дней назад

Excellent video!

@Ace-cr9qt Месяц назад

Love your videos can you make a video ranking, each kingdom, strength, and soldier quality

@GoldRoadTraveler Месяц назад

Thank you for watching! That's a cool idea!

@michaelfrieszell6745 7 дней назад

I think stark just simply stomped out any embers that may rekindle and settled the loose ends. He is a thorough man. He is a stark.

@jessjess23brooks89 6 дней назад

He kept his vow and tried to do right by little Aegon. Wish he had popped back in every now and then because the regency was a disaster.

@road3557 7 дней назад

This should be a series on its own. Cregan Stark sounds like a boss.

@mochalotte4702 8 часов назад

Would be very boring. Robert had more balls and fought his own wars. Cregan was a slimy opportunistic liar who tried to take credit when the dance of the dragons was done

@road3557 5 часов назад

@@mochalotte4702 This story would not be boring. Watching the Stark army going south would be amazing to see again. If it’s well written, it would be fine.

@rickandrews9302 8 дней назад

The Kings of Winter were hard men in hard times

@ilynpayne7491 8 дней назад

I definitely want to see this guy in the season 2 he must have been a badass bringing Swift Justice

@HunterGargoyle 3 дня назад

"Hero or thug?" Those two are more often then not one and the same, you can't put your own morrality to a man such as this in a situation of strife

@Cbutton 7 дней назад

Whether you like it or not the realm needed him.

@miguelvalence6019 26 дней назад

Hope you keep on making vids until WOW comes out.

@ecm95 8 дней назад

I honestly can’t understand the dislike of him. He followed through on his word even though he knew the targs couldn’t hold up there end anymore. He took the capitol. He executed and punished those who wouldn’t stop. He also punished the people who betrayed aegon the elder because they weren’t trust worthy. He threatened to march on greens that weren’t cooperating, got a wife , found homes for his Northman, than fucked off back home. He basically got revenge for the queen he had an oath to, stabilized the capital, and left. What’s not to like??

@alessiodandolo1460 7 дней назад

And in the end, the guy didn't do anything. He waited, spoke, threatened in vain. Many continue to see him as a great, charismatic and honorable warrior just because he bears the Stark name, when all the facts show the exact opposite. The guy patiently waited until all danger was removed to intervene in an already over war, show himself, punish the assassins of the king he was supposed to fight (but while carefully avoiding punishing the most powerful among them, as in chance), threaten to continue the war against enemies who would have crushed him anyway, while knowing very well that this would not happen, abandon power to one of his supposed former enemies. Nothing about nothing: hats off to the artist!

@JMTgpro 7 дней назад

@@alessiodandolo1460 The man's job was to clear the table with those who would have been a risk to Aegon III. Yes, there is a certain bravery with his incitement against the Lannisters. But his stand against the Hightowers and Velaryon is justified. The king is a child, leaving sparks of influence in the houses closest to the king's predecessors would only cause another possible war. Corlys has two granddaughters with royal blood from Daemon Targaryen, the Hightowers a queen still living in King's Landing. So yes, wanting to take away their influence to protect Aegon III is indeed a severe, sober, but politically justifiable decision. Not to mention the death of Larys, who we can say that, like the Varys of his time, he knew the danger that his position in court would represent. Even the execution of Aegon II's guard is justified... Cregan's executions were what initially kept Aegon III in power. The only thing I judge him for is leaving immediately and not helping to reap the fruit of his labor. Many problems could have been solved if he had remained in King's Landing for a couple of years and avoided the formation of the regent council.

@alessiodandolo1460 7 дней назад

@@JMTgpro But I ask you again, what stand against the Velaryons and the Hightowers ? Cregan Stark threatened them, but he did nothing. And he did nothing because he knew the Hightowers would have crushed him in an open war, and because he was afraid of Alyn Velaryon. His only goal was to show up at the end of the war to make everyone forget that he had played no role in it, and to get rid of his veterans so he could survive the winter. He never had the slightest intention of risking his precious life for Rhaenyra or the Blacks. A false hero.

@ecm95 7 дней назад

@@alessiodandolo1460 you’re just straight up lying. Corlys had the greens surrender by the time he arrived. And Corlys was spared trial because his granddaughter had cregans new wife persuaded him to spare Corlys

@alessiodandolo1460 6 дней назад

@@ecm95 Yes, the cute story that Cregan Stark gave in to the Targaryen girls and Alysanne Blackwood. It's a nice official version, although a little silly. Just because Martin didn't write to you explicitly that Cregan Stark, like everyone else, acted for political reasons, doesn't mean that's not the case. Moreover, the author himself mentions the threat of Alyn Velaryon and cites it as one of the reasons why Cregan Stark gave up attacking Corlys. What's interesting about Martin's writing is precisely this: you have to read between the lines.

@eoneck709 6 дней назад

Lmao that thumbnail is Rollo from the Vikings series

@Argos-xb8ek 9 дней назад

I never liked him to me how caused chaos then just peaced out when his king needed him most and he was always too late when it mattered most. Cregan was Late

@noahmehringer29 7 дней назад

True but the North was literally the farthest from the other kingdoms and he didn't see the need to become king's hand after justice was delivered. I think by that point other lords better suited to politics took up the position. Plus let's be honest, Starks hate the south and there must always be a Stark at Winterfell.

@DarkKing009 Месяц назад

Cregan Stark thought he could take Old Town from Hightower and Casterly Rock from Lannister without dragons. Ok Cregan Stark the fool wolf

@leftysamurai7466 11 дней назад

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@french907 9 дней назад

He may not have been able to take the castles but You have to remember the green supporters after several years of war were exhausted and in no condition to put up a fight. They had no armies to oppose Cregan and the rest of the Blacks not to mention the Westerlands were being ravaged by iron bron raids a simple land blockade and then invasion would likely have crushed the Lannisters

@DarkKing009 9 дней назад

@@french907 A great Lord of the north but a bad General who never fought a battle before in his life let alone The Siege of a Great Castle against a veteran Force. He came down with snowbeard men and green boys unblooded by War. All those who survived the dancing of the dragons are hardened veterans. The winter wolves the Vanguard of the northern Army of old men in Fierce Fighters sworn to die are all dead. In the Southerners have learned of their tactics.

@french907 9 дней назад

@@DarkKing009 True but simply in terms of numbers they were outmatched. Not to mention Orys Baratheon died Jason Lannister was crippled and the Hightowers had lost most of their leadership commanders and generals in addition to their numbers being abysmally small compared to the combined Blacks numbers. Hence why green supporters sued for peace after Aegon the thrid's death and Cregan's capture of King's Landing no more real reason to fight and far too much to loose from then on for them.

@DarkKing009 9 дней назад

@@french907 Lady Johanna Lannister of Casterly Rock did not yield to the ironborn nor she yield to the Norseman