Criminal Lawyer Reacts to Off-Duty Pilot on MUSHROOMS Tries to Crash Plane 

As a pilot, the guy would know that the engines could be restarted with plenty of time to spare - assuming the pilots could put put the red levers right again.

Yup definitely a problem ☠️🥴🤯👀

What get's me every time is the sarcastic laugh from Bruce. 🤣

He cracks me up so easily. All I have to do is just look at his face and I'm gone!!! 🤣😆🤣 @@eamonnbyrne8400

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LOl, no he doesn’t microdosing is awesome!

he went for the threshold 😂 been there done that, never going back. Micro-dosing is the key, and at that please don’t touch hallucinogens

You gotta go deep to hit the level of ruthless introspection to sort out deeply ingrained thought patterns and issues your ego keeps you from facing

Lisa, you're a baller 😊

Makes ya want to hang out with Lisa @@Castedlots

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. What if he ate like a quarter or half ounce or something 😮

Oops I thought you meant did he have a meal, like before drinking. Oh dear I am getting old. 😂😂😂😂

He was up for all that time because he was on meth.

@sianbeecham2825 Any meal that was chased with an OD of the fungus likely would not remain eaten after an hour or so. 🤮 P.s. I'm 76, and I have eaten a lot of 🍄, but never irresponsibility. Well, there was that once. I got to a KFC, thinking, as you did, that food might help. The greasy mess looked up at me like something from Naked Lunch. I managed to down half a biscuit, and just rode it out in the KFC. Fade out Naked Lunch; fade in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

😂😂😂😂

oh yeah we gotta hear that ends.

Scary. Glad you…and those sharing the road…were ok.

I’ve done mushrooms many, many times. They don’t make you do stuff like this. If he really hadn’t slept in 40 hours that has more to do with this. Or he has some serious underlying mental health issues

I give you A LOT of credit for handling your situation the way you did. I think it was great that you called someone to come get you rather than risk driving and killing someone.

😂yall say anything on the internet nowadays

Do you say “innate” because you think he was raised by wolves?

​@caldwell2253 i feel like your parents don't both tell you they love you every day

​@@caldwell2253chill homie 🤣

@@anomaly3215 n i simply dont care how you "feel" or your emotional state at the moment you made that comment. 🤷🏾

he wasn't Australian but mushrooms strike again 😬

@@DogFish-NZ took me a minute...🍄

You don’t dhd in a cockpit jumpseat. Not sure about mainline Alaska, but it’s actually a violation of Horizon’s pilot contract to be booked in that seat for flights over an hour. You can use it to commute or for leisure travel. If he was on a deadhead he would have a confirmed seat in the back.

@leaf9475 yes, I stand corrected. But commuting is going to and from work - if that's what he was doing, my point still stands, and the reports are incorrect when they say that he was "deadheading".

I think if you or someone you loved had been on that flight you wouldn't be so sympathetic.

I agree it's a rough spot for a pilot. Unfortunately, airlines can't have depressed pilots for obvious reasons. Perhaps they should consider a program for pilots who are struggling with depression that lets them keep their job but keeps them out of the air while they go to treatment?

@@cocofox2167. Who’s going to pay them while they’re not flying?

A pilot with severe depression? That’s when you put your career on hold, take FMLA, and seek treatment (even if it’s an alternative treatment, like psilocybin). It is definitely a bad situation to be in, but the alternative to seeking help is much worse. Treating depression with ketamine therapy is legal in some places (like Seattle), and very effective for some patients. I highly recommend getting a therapist who specializes in psychedelic integrative therapy. Don’t try to self-medicate without help from others with professional experience! The dosage, set and setting, and follow up therapy are crucial to getting well when using psychedelics for mental health.

@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree It would most likely be the individual airline or a fund set up by the airline industry as a whole. Similar to how people get sick days and vacation. Mental problems need to be treated and the way the system works right now forces the pilots to choose between treatment and their lifelong dream of flying. This isn't just a job to these men and women. It's a lifelong goal and part of their personalities. Forcing them out of the air can be devastating to them which is why we sometimes see pilots take rather extreme measures to mask their illnesses to keep flying. If it wasn't a matter of choosing to keep flying or getting treatment it could well save lives.

severe depression is preceded by other lesser symptoms for which a person could seek care - unless it automatically endangers your career. There's the rub.

ong 😭 that’s a trip fr

Not like you can ‘go for a walk’ 🤣

He was literally flying high on mushrooms

I've smoked a cone in a twin seater plane with the window open. that was enough 😬😂

i’m off the shrooms rn and yea nha that shi is crazy

I watch them at 2X speed so I can be better than everyone else.

As the pilots try to restart they are soiling dozens of underwear in that plane!

I highly recommend Mentour Pilot's channel for an insider view of what flying in big airliners is like. His latest video covered the glide slope of an aircraft based upon math which I don't really understand. You are correct that it wouldn't just plummet to the ground. On a side note, I'm still salty about our state giving Boeing billions of dollars to stay and then they skedaddled as fast as they could. 😆

Plummet to the ground? Lol, just stop. The plane still has wings and altitude. The engines on the embreaer can be restarted after those fire handles are pulled and even if they couldn’t be restarted, this plane can glide for over a 100 miles without engine power and they have an auxiliary power unit that would keep the electrics going

Now there are planes out there without engines that will plummet from the sky, but most planes are built to glide a while. That being said you’re still losing thousands of feet. It really depends on who designed the plane and how well the plane is designed. Most planes if not, all are able to still fly perfectly with one engine. If you do lose both engines sometimes it’s impossible to get them up and running again, depending on how high you are. Because we all know that the higher you go the less oxygen there is and you really need that oxygen to restart an engine. Usually you have to go down pretty low before you’re able to restart the engines again. And that’s solely because there’s a certain level of oxygen you need to ignite the engines again. That being said, it’s a really bad idea to shut off all your engines.

@@michaelakadap924 Truth!!

Yes, isn't it refreshing???

A Defense Attorney...

it's gonna be another mushroom case lol

Ah yes reduce the sentence so that more people think it’s ok to try what he did. How about hold some accountability over people?

He has great content and fantastic insight.

This may kill the deadhead seat.

@@Chiberia Nah, If the jump seat goes off limits, it will take down the industry. Pilots rely on reciprocal privileges coming and going to work since most do not live near their base of operations. That comes from an airline pilot who knows what he's talking about.

@@wintercame Or they would simply remove it from the cockpit to another location and enforce strict restrictions on who is allowed in the cockpit in flight.

Type of comment i enjoy 😊

A guy years ago on Fed Ex? cargo heavy attacked the crew he was on deadhead flight.@@Chiberia

I've been thinking of trying to help myself with it too. But now... I don't think so lol.

@@lawjent Look into it if you’re curious. It can be done in a controlled environment where you are being supervised and cared for by people who are supportive and love you would be my recommendation. Just tell your friends watching you to not let you fly a plane 🤓

@@lawjentlol just don’t do it in this setting

I read within the last couple of months about studies using psychedelic shrooms to treat Alzheimer's Disease, along with other neurologically degenerative diseases. I can't remember which University/Institution was conducting those studies, but there is some merit based upon their initial findings. Being able to regrow neurons was impossible with current pharmaceutical offerings, but the side-effects have not been evaluated for these types of treatments long-term. The brain is one heck of a wild machine, and tinkering with it is pure chaos.

also they take a while to hit, so he may have kept eating more and more as a noobie

I've read up on some of those studies. They use micro-dosing though, just enough to (hopefully) relieve the acute problem (anxiety or a depressive episode) but not nearly enough to make someone hallucinate.

@@justkim9827 that is correct, but helping people to overcome debilitating, life destroying diseases is more important than getting high. Micro dosing is less likely to lead to addiction and/or drug tolerance. If this is the direction the research is leading scientists, then I am in full support.

Intent is very important in regards to psychedelic usage

Agreed!😂😂Good idea with the grandkids!

And what age is that in particular??

Mushrooms are fine, growing up in Poland picking up and eating mushrooms is national pastime, never had a “hallucinogenic” mushroom. Consumed quite a bit of mushrooms after moving into the US.

🤣🤣🤣

Tons of respect for you! I even dream about my fear of heights. When it happens, I’m so terrified that I freeze and cling on to something, until I finally wake up.

Omfg I was Not expecting THAT 😂😂😂😂

LMAO

​@@KittyBeans369I had a big fear of heights and ended up doing steeple jack work,roofing and scaffold work...there is a system to desensitize you of the fear,that I developed,and seems to work well

I see what you did there. 🍄

Absolutely agree, especially with him trying to open the aircraft emergency doors.

People got on that plane to take a trip, but not the type that the pilot was on.

😅bahahahaha! 🎉winner!

The media is spinning it like he was under the influence but he actually just said he had taken mushrooms in the recent past.

@@Elbarto7928 He claims he took the mushrooms 48 hours prior to attempting to cut the engines, but xtiphuny89 is right about the length of a trip and the pronounced impact of sleep deprivation. The title of this video is pure clickbait. I didn't bother watching most of it.

@@nessy9022I think Bruce is parioting he news coverage and It's a good title. If it's 48 hrs before.... ya that dude wasn't on mushrooms. He was sleepy.

Sounds like it was a combination of th mushrooms and sleep deprivation making it a bad trip, lack of sleep can be a hell of a drug, probably was on Adderall or some other amphetamine as well

Unless he took them right before the flight and they set in after he was in the cockpit.

What you said. Lots of people end their lives and others say “but I just saw them! And they seemed so happy!”. Yeah, we are good with the masks we wear.

Aircraft mechanic here… yes it would have. Pulling the handle cuts all fuel, hydraulic oil, air and electric to the engine. Twisting the handle or hitting the discharge button deploys the fire bottle

Drugs don't count toward a mental health defense

​@@Kharsonistdrug companies are studying the effects of psilocybin extensively for their ability to fight depression

@@erinschaack6632 I know that the handle is in the cockpit and only accessible by pilots (who are at least *supposed* to be highly trained and of sound mind), but isn’t it super dangerous to be able to entirely kill the engine (and everyone on board) with one small motion?

Keep up the good fight! The darkness is a terrible enemy. I'd love to try them as well in a bid to get better. Where I live at the moment, it's highly illegal as well as 1) no experience 2)no source 3) no one to babysit during the experience.

I read a study recently regarding mushrooms and depression treatment. Also special k (ketamine). Promising data!!

You're not wrong and I hope you find your holy grail of med combos. I'm currently on a 3 drug cocktail that's keeping me afloat. Keep fighting the brain weasels! ❤

true facts but none of those studies have people flying an aircraft with 100s of lives on board@@HeatherHolt

I completely understand, but even in my darkest days, I can’t imagine doing that in the cockpit of a plane with 85 people on board.

Being a pilot is a tough job, you are entrusted with not only your and your crews lives, but also the passengers. Tough situation all around.

I don't think he has a job lmao but they will have no trouble making a call and getting a warrant for whatever they need. So its a nonissue.

"You will do that anytime they ask or you will not have a job." Working on the railroad in the 90s was the same - random drug test at any time. No idea if it's the same nowadays.

​@@UNSCconnorIt isn't tough, I'd say it carries a great deal of responsibility.

@@michaelm.1947yes, it is still the same for the railroad.

Probably wearing Biden aviation shades.

He wasn't the pilot flying, so maybe the rest restrictions don't apply in that situation.

​@@jimarcher5255😂 reminds me of when trump looked directly into the sun for the eclipse 😂

They probably would've just assumed he was overtired and would sleep on the flight. After all he wasn't active duty and likely wasn't acting out ahead of time. So looking bad doesn't equal threat to flight safety.

He likely took to much and didn't realize how it would effect him. A plane is def not the place to go on a mushroom trip.

My son has schizoaffective disorder with bi-polar tendencies. Prior to his diagnosis and before weed was legalized, he self medicated all of the time. My house smelled like a grow op. I found out, through family counseling that is quite common for people with some type of mental illness to self medicate. The problem arises when the patient insists it was the drugs making them batshit crazy and not the illness. Hospitals do drug tests on people to rule that out when the patient is finally brought in.

I'm reading this, and this is a really nice comment 😊

Your daughter needs help

@@mickehogan3230wha? It's called lucid dreaming, it's super common (and I'm completely jealous). It's totally normal. Oh, and don't be a prick.

Not my daughter but she's quite normal. It's called 'lucid dreaming' where one consciously knows that they're dreaming and, yes, can sometimes control the dream. You don't know that, and I'd suspect a lot more too. You don't know the age of the writer's daughter but are still prepared to say that she 'needs help' for a process that it quite normal. You don't know what effect your saying that may have on anybody, especially if they're young. Yet you are still prepared to risk someone's self image in a one sentence display of what you don't know, and what kind of person you are. You get help, you're the one that needs it.@@mickehogan3230

What? Wow that’s wild. Is that normal? I’ve never heard of anyone being that disconnected when they’re awake and alert but think they’re dreaming when sober. No offense to your kid but… just surface level that sounds strange. But hey I’m no dr.

It sounds like she’s a lucid dreamer………?😂

And 3. For goodness' sake, get a good night's sleep first. 40 hours awake would be disconcerting enough, but then shrooms? (－‸ლ) Wondering if that was his plan for trying to stay awake at work. No sympathy, but dude must have been terrified.

I think he fills an important role in the legal system that people sometimes despise because they are uninformed. I don't agree with how sympathetic he can be, but at the same time I respect his perspective for how important it is for the protection of civil liberties and rights.

The dude is guilty of something. 83 counts of attempted murder? No chance.

Yep. Bruce is a sweety.

I'm pretty sure prosecutors know they're dealing with humans. Aren't you kind of dehumanizing prosecutors by asserting they don't care about people? Prosecutors are defense attorneys for the general public; protecting everyone from criminals

Yes, a human that tried to kill 83 other people on a flight, plus anyone in the ground at the time. A human, yes, but still a monster. That could have been you, your family, the plane could have hit God knows what. Being a human means nothing when that human does the unthinkable.

Yeah I was thinking the same - he’ll lose his career

Another caveat is are the mushrooms for real or are they some material laced with other hallucinogens or drugs. I don't think we have a perfect quality control for this.

​@@toma5153You can easily grow you're own with a grow bag and spore syringe, obviously that's not feasible for everyone. You can get them from reputable sources. No one's gonna lace mushrooms or give you poisonous ones, dries shoots don't really look like any poisonous ones. The strains make the difference, for example I wouldn't recommend penis envy for a first trip etc. Everything the OP posted was correct. It's all about set, setting and dosage.

I'll just stick to weed. 😂

It sounds like the mushrooms weren't prescribed because he would've at least got instructions with them.

Some people with depression benefit from microdosing psilocybin; with OCD, it is an extremely unsettling experience I will not repeat. Different neurotransmitters for different disorders.

I was once told by a professional pilot that you don’t even admit to taking aspirin for a headache.

Sadly since there have been pilots that have crashed aircraft intentionally bc of personal issues, I can see why they’d be leery of anyone who said they had mental issues BUT depression is SO common. ESP with the sht salaries pilots make and the wild hours and time away from home, living in hotel rooms. There is such a lack of empathy for mental conditions in our world. It’s not even as bad in the us as it is in Asian countries where you’re shunned for even mentioning you’re sad. I watched a wild documentary about mental health in Japan China and Korea and it was really eye opening. Not trying to say we’ve got it easy in the us but just comparing

Yeah he's responsible for his behavior whether on mushrooms or not. First time psychedelic use on an airplane??? Bad choice.

74 gear shoutout! Nice. I wouldn't mind seeing a crossover between the two on cases like this. Mr. Content Michael - if you get another plane-related case, maybe see if you can work something out w/ the '74 gear' channel - it'd make for an interesting crossover!

If you have not discovered Ren's music, i would encourage you to listen to "Hi Ren". Similar issues to you in his life, explained throughout his music. Well worth a listen

I’d like to know how you get to the conclusion of what diagnosis you have , if you feel like sharing. I have a lot of health problems and I’m just curious how mushrooms reveal a cause. Thanks! I’m glad you found out what was ultimately harming your body. I have autoimmune issues as well.

This happened to me on too much edibles. I was so tired of being that high and I wanted it to go away. I ended up just going to real sleep to escape the feeling

I don’t not believe this is true, I’ve seen posts of videos of people in full body training sims restart the engines for this model. Plus John Cox the safety consultant “He said it’s possible to restart the engines once the fire handles are returned to their normal position.” Who the fuck who would make an engine you can’t restart, that would be a whole lawsuit waiting to happen. Use ur brain fam

This is totally false. The bottles would not even fire unless the throttles were at idle (first item in an engine fire/ fail checklist.)

There are some planes for which this is true. It is not true for the Embraer, and in fact the jet will attempt a restart unless you turn the ignitors off.

@Outworlder ah I thought most airliners fire suppression units were foam based, thus soiling the engines.

@@kevinspacey5325 honestly didn’t know that about foam, my apologies for the hostility then, this scares me

You're DAM right!!!

I will now!

nah that this made me laugh

I tried shrooms back in the day and no thanks, not my drug of choice.

I have a fair bit of experience with psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD and personally have always been fine (though standard advice is take them in a safe place, have a sober person to watch you, etc). That being said bad mental reactions are a known possibility so taking them before getting on a plane (even if not piloting) is pretty reckless in my opinion. It's not 83 counts of attempted murder reckless obviously but I do think there probably should be some consequence.

at least it wasn't a Wellington 💀

My ex called me and said there is a WALLLLLL OF RAINBOWS AND IT IS FLOWING LIKE A W A T E R F A L L !!!!!!! , my favorite was my wife who spent a large portion of the evening behind the couch talking the cat, she woke the next day and told me she was convinced she WAS a cat! Me, I just feel like my stomach needs to explode out one end or the other with little bits of peace and well being and a complete end of my obsession with death…. Not bad, I mean it changed my entire perspective on life but I just don’t get or respect people using them to party, I feel they put a person in a vulnerable situation and it really should be supervised. This pilot should lose his license because HE was the one who was supposed to be reliable and trustworthy, not in a million years is it ok for him to be excused for such actions. It doesn’t matter if he had a house and kids, I don’t care how “ normal” and “respectable” he WAS, WAS is the word. Had he brought down that jet because he was having a private party in the “ jump seat” oh hell no. I believe in decriminalized drugs , this fool should at least catch some felonies and do a year or so just for making mushrooms look bad.

Great advice! I was always a buddy when people wanted to do psychedelics bc I always kept things fun light and interesting. This was in the early 2000s during the rave party days. Man, good times lol good times

Nice.

@@HeatherHolt people like you are the most important part of the experience, keeping everyone safe. You are appreciated