Underrated? um no it was very highly rated when it came out.. now is just an old movie and we have an idiotic generation that can't appreciate good films anymore.
While Tony Scott was editing the movie, he actually received word that the real USS Alabama was going to ship out of Pearl Harbor so Scott and a small crew immediately flew to Hawaii to capture footage of the sub before it sets out underwater. Scott and his camera operators captured the footage using a boat and helicopter. Both producers Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer said it was pure luck that they were able to get footage of the submarine going underwater and originally were going to use computer effects but Scott was against it and wanted to use real and actual footage and he got it. Just an amazing movie. I love True Romance but I honestly believe this is Scott's best movie.
The time of it setting off was actually classified. So no civilians should be able to do that in the first place… meaning that there is a whistleblower inside.
My only problem with this video, and probably more so the movie, is this. In the scenes of the boat diving; at times it's a fast attack boat (SSN), at other times, it's an FBM. The Alabama is an FBM submarine (SSBN 731). No, I haven't seen the movie, and won't. Mainly because of minor/major glitches like that. Call me names if you must, but as a Submariner from long ago, it's things like this that cause me to not watch certain movies.
It is a very powerful piece of music in this context. It was even used in a Navel warfare video game. Upon hearing it, the game was no longer just a game. Conduct of war in any form is serious business . God Bless all that are, and have been in that position.
Hackman is one of the most underrated actors of our time imo. I was in the military for 8 years and he played the senior officer/commander role very believably.
I spent 12 years in the Navy, and I’ve always said that Hackman absolutely nails the CO role…I’m sure his time in the Corps gave him plenty of examples of cocky, arrogant, supremely competent commanding officers!
I might disagree. Hackman is far from under-rated. He's a god of sorts in the film world -- not counting the current generation. Sad that folks with that level of talent feel they have to retire. But he's happy now in the desert. If you've been there, you understand.
Generally I consider the use of "underrated" or "overrated" as purely personal opinion types of statements, but I genuinely feel this is the biggest misuse of the word that I've ever seen. lol. I'm not trying to make fun, honestly. It's just... he's generally considered one of the greatest actors not just of his generation, but of multiple generations. it almost feels akin to saying oxygen is underrated when considering all things that make Earth habitable.
Even though the Navy refused to give any kind of cooperation to filming, Tony Scott knew how to get the shots he needed🔥🔥 such a badass director 🔥missing his frenetic style films ❤️😢
I remember seeing making of for Crimson Tide. To get these shots they knew an American Sub was about to depart a naval base, so they sat off the coast outside the base and waited for it, and it was all legal. All they got was a warning over the radio not to get to close. And to top it all off it was actually the USS Alabama but they didnt realize this at the time.
@@RobertdMacGregor Yep, from what I've read, the Navy thought the movie didn't make them look good, what with all the mutiny, conflict, failure to follow procedures, almost-launched-nukes-that-shouldn't-be-launched and whatnot. So they refused to help.
Shame that Tony Scott died the way he did . Such a brilliant man . Doesn’t make any sense a person like that take his own life . Never could comprehend. RIP
@@nelsonmurilo5067 It is a shame, but just because a person's brilliance is recognized by others doesn't mean they aren't miserable. A person can not have many natural gifts/talents and be happy, or have many of them and be in anguish.
I love this scene. I've sailed through the Straits of Juan de Fuca (in a surface warship) and served in a submarine - both during the Cold War. This is how it was when I was a young man.
Were the subs really that spacious? A friend of mine said that there wasn't close to that much room in a submarine. He served in an undisclosed nuclear sub (He won't tell).
The Navy Hymn sung as the submarine dives is quite moving. As if it's honoring the excellence of the crew and their bravery. Hans Zimmer really outdid himself with that soundtrack.
if i am not mistaken, and i tried to research it again, i believe the men's choir singing the navy hymn is in actuality a russian group. love the irony, on top of all the talent.
ghostrider Old movies certainly stand for good stories but there are still good films today, like Interstellar, Inception, Argo, 12 years a slave... etc.
Tranefine please stop making adolescent comments and get the fuck out a here with all those fucked up fake ass movies...!! Sorry don't take it personal but really. ..pleaseeeeeeeee
I forgot how beautiful and impactful this scene is. Leadership is an interesting thing. They are no "bad guys" in this movie. This is a very good look at the way leadership works/doesn't work.
The captain is certainly made as the bad guy in the movie. Not a mustache-twirling villain, but reckless, cold and mean. However, as the admiral says at the end, as far as the letter of the law goes, they were both right, and they were both wrong. The system failed, with almost catastrophic consequences.
One minute they're talking about the cigar and then abruptly the professionalism kicks in. "XO take her down!" Almost the like XO is a third person on the bridge. Awesome acting.
Not so much giving personal advice as taking another opportunity to mess with his head, he tells denzel not to be a kiss-ass and then asks him whether he likes the cigar which he obviously dislikes (not being a smoker), a question which in politeness denzel is required to answer dishonestly, lol.
"I can't stand save-asses and I won't abide kiss-asses" -Captain Ramsey (beautifully delivered by Gene Hackman). Anyone have male kids in here? Here's some good advice, drill that into their heads until they're saying it in the sleep and are hopefully living it when they become men. Take responsibility for your actions and don't be a sycophant; teach them this first before anything else. Great movie, thank you 🙏
One of the most hair raising scenes in Hollywood movie history. Till the dive commences, we are in awe of the size and the strength of the US Navy nuclear powered submarine. But as the dive begins and the mighty ocean gradually swallows the submarine, we are once again left awestruck with the enormity of Mother Nature as David (nuclear sub) merges into Goliath (the ocean) in this scene. In Sanskrit, the ocean is called 'Samuddhra' and when we Indians use that word, it is quite a mouthful and it gives us a sense of the actual might of nature's water force when we say it.
The ocean didn't "swallow" the submarine. The submarine dove forcefully into the ocean to let the sea know the sub is ready for the challenge of the water's might. It will resurface after being tested by the depths and the sub will remain as the victor!
@@johnleeson6946 Well that is of course the fact but I had been talking about how Mother Nature has the capability to dwarf us all. Another scene that comes to my mind is the view from the International Space Station in the movie 'Gravity' that gives one a sense of the gigantic proportions of our planet Earth.
That’s not a legitimate order for a couple of reasons. 1. The formal order is submerge the ship. 2. That order comes from the CO to the OOD who then repeats it back to the CO.
@Tyrone Taylor : "You knew to shut up and enjoy the view".. to be there at the time.. Denzel & Gene.. perfect casting.. perfect! .. btw Tyrone, how you like that Cee-gar ???.. LoL!
The film crew waited at Pearl Harbor for a sub to put out to sea. In an incredible coincidence, the real USS Alabama was the first sub to do so. They followed in a boat and helicopter and got this footage.
Movies like this, you better get while you still can. Feminism and Hollyweird will see to it they are never made again. Powerful movie. Powerful acting.
35 years in the Navy and the loss of some very good friends made "Eternal Father" music that grabs me deep just about every time I hear it. This is a beautiful rendition. Fair winds my friends....
My favorite part of the show! Any of U former lookout Out there understand this moment, back on watch, after all the hoopla has died there is only the rush of the ship cutting through the water and the trail the screw makes as U move forward! The smell of the sea air, the horizon all around U until nightfall, then only the lights of contacts, green for rt side, red for port, white for rear. Then 2 hours later, your stomach telling U what to do with your lunch! Miss it sometimes, but sometimes I don't!
Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm hath bound the restless wave, Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep Its own appointed limits keep; Oh Saviour whose almighty word, The winds and waves submissive heard, Who walked'st on the foaming deep, And calm amidst its rage didst sleep, Oh hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea. Amen
Mi-28 Havoc yes. It is. Also believed, by mistake, as the navy hymn. It is not. Belongs only to those who are bubbleheads. We have given so much to wear dolphins. Thank you very much by calling it by the right name.
In my experience on much smaller, recreational, boats, dolphins like to lead or follow boats if they're moving fast, but when you slow down, to conserve fuel or actually sail, they get bored and leave. I've never sailed on a boat big enough and fast enough while sailing in calm seas to interest the dolphins. (In rough seas, the dolphins might well be there but you'll probably never know.)
Excellent movie, amazing spar off between Washington and Hackman, both superior actors. And this scene is quite moving for some reason - guess that, to me, is the dedication, the risk, the stakes, and the beauty of filming/editing. Thanks for posting. I'm thinking of showing this at our military retirement community near Veterans Day, for many of our folks were submariners.
@@FLYSUBS89 How can you say that? Of course, it's your opinion, but you didn't say you're a submariner yourself. Even I'm not. However, at least I respect those who made this film. With two legendary actors to be precise. Plus, you didn't realize that the comment was made 8 years ago. Way too late to say, "Don't show it to them." I bet @ytcarol, if he kept his word, already did. Next time, look at how long ago a comment was made before you reply back. I won't be seeing your future replies to me regarding this particular topic. Good day.
@@hammerbro1947 well, don't be surprised then, when you show this on April 11th as some sort of tribute, and get laughed out of the hall. And yes, I earned dolphins.
Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm does bind the restless wave, Who bids the mighty ocean deep Its own appointed limits keep; O hear us when we cry to Thee For those in peril on the sea. O Savior, whose almighty word The winds and waves submissive heard, Who walked upon the foaming deep, And calm amid the rage did sleep; O hear us when we cry to Thee For those in peril on the sea. O Holy Spirit, who did brood Upon the waters dark and rude, And bid their angry tumult cease, And give for wild confusion peace; O hear us when we cry to Thee For those in peril on the sea. O Trinity of love and pow'r, Your children shield in danger's hour; From rock and tempest, fire, and foe, Protect them where-so-e'er they go; Thus, evermore shall rise to Thee Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.
All your atheist friends in the comments section are quite unable to concede that this is a Christian hymn and blubber and belch about it being a movie score and all that. Pity. But don't worry, a day will come when atheism will be able to inspire something half as good and half as profound and sublime and pithy. Someday....
I remember I had to take an anti submarine warfare class in the Navy. The Lt. that started the presentation said welcome. I'd like to tell you all right now there is no such thing or effective strategy for anti submarine warfare. Now let's begin. 🤣
The scene in which the U.S.S. Alabama is diving for the first time, is footage of the real submarine submerging. Tony Scott was following along in a helicopter obtaining shots of the ship. When the Captain of the Alabama requested that the helicopter cease filming, they submerged, which is what director Tony Scott was hoping for anyway.
I am by nature very claustrophobic, so the thought of serving in the close quarters of a submarine terrified me, especially the thought of being trapped in one deep under water during a catastrophic event (on a regular boat you can toss out life preservers and launch lifeboats, but in a submarine there's nowhere to go). And yet, I've always been fascinated with submarines since I was a child. Many years ago I got the chance to experience life aboard a submarine. Initially I panicked, but after a while I almost forgot that I was in a submarine. I'm still claustrophobic, but I do admire those who live abd serve aboard those fine vessels.
Never ceases to amaze me - all those running Matelots! Running forward from aft to man their stations and those who have stations aft, running from forward! A time and motions bod would have a field day! LOL
They look like Cuban MonteCristo's - and they're not cheap. Roughly $15 - EACH depending where you get them. But can burn for over an hour, so worth it.
I was on that boat when that scene was filmed. USS Alabama Gold Crew. We were filmed illegally while coming out of Pearl. Most of those scenes were of a fast attack but the boat spewing water mist out of its vent while diving...all us. That was the only part of the film they had of a real boomer. To tell you the truth: I haven't met a boomer sailor that liked that movie! In fact our crew went to see it the first day in the AMC theater in Silverdale, WA back in 1996 and you wouldn't have wanted to be in the theater with us! Both enlisted and officer jeered that movie! It wasn't just the insides they completely screwed up, but the way they portrayed submariners! To me, it is in the category of one of the worst military movies I have seen, and sadly I was in it! It changed the way I view most war movies today! I can't trust the effort they put in to the accuracy of these movies! A better and more honorable depiction of submariners could be found in Down Periscope in my experienced opinion!
Tom, you're absolutely right. This is a garbage movie, and there was a very good reason why the Navy, which usually contorts itself into a pretzel to assist a film, refused to help this one.
Its supposed to be Hollywood action flick, were you really expecting it to be realistic documentation? I know that people in military wont like to see these kind of unrealistic action flicks, but they are supposed to be entertainment, not documentation and many ppl actually like this movie. If it was realistic movie, there never would have been that kind of conflict inside the boat during the mission, and Im sure you can conclude that as well if you really were on USS Alabama, but then again that would not really have made into good story. I have utmost respect for people working in submarines and I can perfectly understand that Navy didnt want to participate in making this movie, but filming subs isnt illegal, if it was they would have never been there to film USS Alabama. Yes they didnt ask permission to do so, but then again they didnt need one.
The Navy has a fine sense of tradition! Whenever an American submarine leaves port, the crew sings this ancient sea chanting. A-One! A-Two! A-Three! A-Four!
as flawed, wrongheaded, and outright dangerous as Ramsey is, you can't help but admire the grizzled old warrior and feel a little regret when he's ultimately laid low.
@@christopherlee7334 did y’all ever get c rations or MRE’s? The army field chow took some getting used to. I remember eating a cold can of spaghetti and meatballs for breakfast. I ate one meal out in the woods that I couldn’t even see. Just slid my back down the side of a tree, took off my M-60 machine gun and felt around my tray. Unfortunately, the meat was rubbery. It may have been a good thing to not see it. Good memories.
@@rexoates4484 we got MREs a total of one time, and only when we were in hurricane conditions on duty and an emergency sortie wasn't an option. It wasn't bad, for a single meal. Other than that, I've always had cooked food or cold cuts for breakfast, lunch and dinner while on board a ship.
Great scene and an amazing film. Only thing I wish they would have added was the actual sound of the diving alarm. Very few have had the pleasure of hearing that sound.
