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Critical Thinking #2: Valid & Sound Arguments 

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Комментарии : 73   
@GBart
@GBart 6 лет назад
I became a Libertarian because the arguments were valid. I changed my mind when I realized they weren't sound.
@missalbania9260
@missalbania9260 2 года назад
Because the right and the left have sound arguments? LOL
@nl5455
@nl5455 2 года назад
Damn I never thought of that before
@Helmutandmoshe
@Helmutandmoshe 9 месяцев назад
And if you spend more time and even more effort, you'll change your mind again.
@LossOfEternal
@LossOfEternal 6 лет назад
A critical thinking series on one of the channels least likely to have an audience that needs it. Somebody please put these video links in the comments sections of Fox News, Alex Jones, TYT and Jimmy Dore show.
@nidavelliir
@nidavelliir 6 лет назад
Are you seriously comparing Dore to Alex Jones?
@LossOfEternal
@LossOfEternal 6 лет назад
David is independent now. This show left the TYT network years ago. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-92bgSRd9lY8.html And Jordan Chariton was fired from TYT last year. Your knowledge of TYT is very suspect. You seem to be unaware of many things that someone that actually hates that channel is well aware of. TYT is very comparable to Fox News. Both channels are filled with ideologues that twist the facts to fit their agenda and ignore stories that would refute their preconceived notions. I was subscribed to TYT for nearly a decade. I've seen Jimmy Dore spit on Alex Jones' face and not lose his job afterwards. I've seen the show sell out to AJ+. I've seen Cenk purposefully misrepresent Sam Harris on multiple occasions. I've seen Cenk and Ana have mental breakdowns when people disagree with them. That channel is not what you think it is. I suggest you stay unsubscribed from them.
@ihartevil
@ihartevil 6 лет назад
sorry jimmy dore does that unlike david pakman and the others jimmy actually has videos where he opened up dictionaries and read from them alex jones doesnt even believe in the insanity he spews as david has told us this is called reading the dictionary the way jimmy does instead of making up your own definitions
@MiqelDotCom
@MiqelDotCom 5 лет назад
^ just because Jimmy Dore read from a dictionary on his show does not imply he used the information in a valid and sound manner. I can't even watch his show because it's fallacy after fallacy, and the 2 people that are his seeming co-hosts contribute nothing of substance and appear more like sycophants. It's just a weird scene all around.
@Tenchigumi
@Tenchigumi 5 лет назад
@@MiqelDotCom Yeah, there's actually a term for that: the "Appeal to Definition" fallacy. Critical thinking requires broader context that dictionaries can't always provide. In addition, definitions can (and do) change repeatedly over time, and words often have multiple definitions with entirely different applications (see: "erection"). It's one of the more ironic things I see in comments and posts: when someone quotes a dictionary as an authority in a debate, there's a fair chance they don't actually have a comprehensive understanding of the word in question.
@glendagraves1637
@glendagraves1637 4 года назад
Thank you for doing the critical thinking series.
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
@dinnerwithfranklin2451 5 лет назад
Great series, I just found it. Thanks
@harshikachauhan9445
@harshikachauhan9445 3 года назад
Thank you so much... I had been trying to understand this for days nw .. I finally did.. thank-you so much Sir!
@tonytran2973
@tonytran2973 5 лет назад
TY U HELPED ME FOR MY EXAM FOR ONE OF MY MULTIPLE CHOICE
@ashxxxxq
@ashxxxxq 4 года назад
Fantastic! Thank you, David!
@brianpan6453
@brianpan6453 6 лет назад
I don't see the link.
@luguy8347
@luguy8347 6 лет назад
Pakman is very concise. Short and sweet.
@Achillic
@Achillic 3 года назад
I have an exam on this. Thank you sooo much you are life saver
@saarangsahasrabudhe8634
@saarangsahasrabudhe8634 6 лет назад
I have a technical query. Following Aristotle's is correspondence truth theory, to say something is true means: 1. You have a claim 2. You have a standard or an "ideal case" for what you want to get from that claim 3. You compare the two things and VALIDATE your claim. i.e. Truth or Soundness itself is a type of Validation, not something separate from it... am I mistaken here?
@Danzigx
@Danzigx Год назад
David Sir I'm 110 years old and I love making deductive arguments!
@Tr3v0rr96
@Tr3v0rr96 6 лет назад
Finally! I've been waiting to see this for a while!
@Tr3v0rr96
@Tr3v0rr96 6 лет назад
KC I'm talking about the series. I've already known about deductive arguments from the prep LSAT book and most of the stuff David has already talked about in his critical thinking mini series is mentioned on the LSAT prep books. I'm just happy he's circulating this onto RU-vid for people to learn from.
@Tr3v0rr96
@Tr3v0rr96 6 лет назад
KC okay, you're talking about the series, big whoop! "you're really helping your population." Or maybe people who have never come across David's videos or skeptical thinking in general could benefit. What does this have to do with the LSAT?
@Tr3v0rr96
@Tr3v0rr96 6 лет назад
KC as for the gun fetish argument, there's a legitimate difference between regular gun owners, and overly zealous NRA members. To call it an ad hominem in some cases could be warranted, but often that is not the case.
@tongsam3555
@tongsam3555 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the help I have a better understand what validity and soundness
@GBart
@GBart 6 лет назад
This needs to be taught in Elementary Schools
@jtrinipapi
@jtrinipapi 3 года назад
This is actually a high school college preparatory level course well it seems extremely basic because David Packman is doing a great job explaining watch the same topic with the same explanations taught by a different person it will confuse the shit out of you and it’s only David being very clear that makes it simple to understand this should be understood and known by every adult American Bar Nunn you should not be able to vote or run for office if you do not know basic understandings like critical thinking however I bet 90% of Americans don’t know the critical thinking or thinking logically is actually studied and Part of a people often ramble and say well done that’s just logical and they don’t even have the slightest idea of what logical thinking is how to go about it or what it really means logic to one person is the assumption that every basic person should understand that but they don’t actually know what it takes to be logical or what makes something logical critical thinking is more in depth than elementary level education however I do hear your point in that it is definitely a necessity should be required and it should be taught at an early enough age to where if you don’t understand it you still have time in middle school or high school to learn about it more ask more questions see the average student doesn’t realize that having a good day in school is not simply going to school and getting good grades a good day in school is what was the best question that you asked today and every day you should try harder and harder to ask a better question because lots of people don’t askAnd that’s because they’re either shy or embarrassed to admit that they don’t know something but the smartest man in the room knows that they don’t know everything and so they’re constantly asking questions so that they can learn in the better the question the more that you can learn
@GBart
@GBart 9 месяцев назад
Who's Bar Nunn?
@lotusson
@lotusson 6 лет назад
Feels like the video needs to be 2-3 times longer to really dive deeper into the issue and provide more examples.
@dennis-qu7bs
@dennis-qu7bs 6 лет назад
just watch this video 2-3 times more and it will be crystal!
@zainio
@zainio 6 лет назад
Really? In this case, I think more than enough examples were given which covered all sorts of scenarios regarding the validity and truth of premises and conclusions. That being said, I would be interested in a video where they make arguments regarding some simple and popular topics following these formats.
@daniel4647
@daniel4647 6 лет назад
Thanks for this, I'll check that out, looks like a good site.
@nikopoulos5241
@nikopoulos5241 3 года назад
Whats wrong with Ted Cruz? Why would this be a "horrible reality"?
@pauljohnson7791
@pauljohnson7791 2 года назад
Regardless of whether it is horrible, that jab has no place in a technical discussion of logic.
@fromawayme192
@fromawayme192 4 года назад
need to sequence the sessions properly ... session 2 references a point in made in session 3 ... a little confusing
@Teewaree13
@Teewaree13 2 года назад
thank you, this was a better video that what the prof assigned.
@markallen3293
@markallen3293 6 лет назад
Thanks Dave...
@mikefrey07
@mikefrey07 6 лет назад
Is it just me or are episodes 2 and 3 misplaced? Episode 2 talks about deductive arguments which are not covered until episode 3.
@Bcffgjnbgddxchjhgv255
@Bcffgjnbgddxchjhgv255 6 лет назад
Thank you for this. We need so much more of this.
@HaoSci
@HaoSci 6 лет назад
1:57 **It's a horrible reality. (a hidden jab)**
@nikopoulos5241
@nikopoulos5241 3 года назад
Yeah what a loser the narrator is
@JasonBurnettsProfile
@JasonBurnettsProfile 5 лет назад
I think you missed the first part of the series. You state in this video #2 that we are going to go over something we have already discussed--except that you just introduced the entire concept of critical thinking in the first video--we didn't discuss any of the topics you give us a refresher on in this video. What I am suggesting is that this video should follow a video where you introduce deductive arguments or you should edit the beginning and just introduce them here. Before this video (which you claim is a recap of our previous discussion), you only introduced the scope of this series. Perhaps you originally intended to produce an Intro and then Video 1, but only produced the Intro (as video 1 in the series.) lol
@changingworld2
@changingworld2 6 лет назад
(1) Dav correctly identifies a sound and valid argument on a video. (2) Dav argues the validity and soundness of leftist economic theory. (3) Therefore leftist economic theory is sound??? Bless him...
@changingworld2
@changingworld2 6 лет назад
Exactly!
@chivasgamergirl22
@chivasgamergirl22 3 года назад
Thank you
@janea5898
@janea5898 6 лет назад
Hillary Clinton is a democrat: Debatable. 🤓 lol jk. I like this series! More more!
@gamerboy5908
@gamerboy5908 6 лет назад
Love it
@grandebigy
@grandebigy 6 лет назад
I like that you do videos like this .it hopfully promotes logical thinking. I dont think you would find this on pro nix/ler videos. In fact i have found done of them delete my questions in comments before anyone cash read them, so what does that promote. I still see chumpster coments on your video's there to busy worrying about the "second amendment & forgetting about the first & third...
@chadhazen4810
@chadhazen4810 6 лет назад
How ironic (in the modern sense of the word) that you make an an Ad Hominem statement toward Ted Cruz.
@quikdraw5203
@quikdraw5203 3 года назад
Cogent, strong and true.
@summerlove6989
@summerlove6989 10 месяцев назад
this man definitely cannot speak on biases.
@TheHappyTrainWreck
@TheHappyTrainWreck 6 лет назад
Can you please use Molyneux's "Art of the Argument" in your examples? 😂
@narfvader8651
@narfvader8651 5 лет назад
Lol, Fido is a dogs name in the US too? I thought this was a german thing.. Already learned sth David 👍👍👍
@simon-pierreharvey309
@simon-pierreharvey309 5 лет назад
It's also French
@LonaPhilosophicus
@LonaPhilosophicus 6 лет назад
Not All Dogs can fly? Dont you mean Dogs cant fly!.. ?
@ihartevil
@ihartevil 6 лет назад
its called math class you do realize this is being taught in second grade math right thx for this ha bisky video that is on something like scishow kids
@Ou8y2k2
@Ou8y2k2 6 лет назад
C: England is my city? Fuck.
@aqmi
@aqmi 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this
@Wib0
@Wib0 6 лет назад
Jees fuck, I gave it a chance after the first video, but this is ridiculous bs. I mean, it's all true, but a child knows this shit. Just make sure he/she will be able to apply it to more complicated stuff when they grow up, and it'll be musclememory by the time the get into puberty.
@helu7777
@helu7777 4 года назад
Adding your politics is an unfortunate distraction. Perhaps a lack of your mastery of critical thinking.
@EamonKelly
@EamonKelly Год назад
Not really a distraction, he only said like half a sentence about it. I just ignored it and continued on.
@photoguy4212
@photoguy4212 3 года назад
Can you do this for white privilege? I can’t figure out a valid or sound argument for it.
@charliekowittmusic
@charliekowittmusic 3 года назад
P1: White Privilege describes advantages enjoyed, on average, by those with visibly white skin in a given social context. P2: In America, those who do not have white skin are dealing with more discrimination in the CJS, infrastructure and housing, employment, income, ecology, etc. on average. Valid & Sound Conclusion: In America, White Privilege as a concept accurately describes several dimensions of life.
@Helmutandmoshe
@Helmutandmoshe 9 месяцев назад
You ruin the possibility of me using this as a reference because of your editorial partisan judgements thrown in. Just leave it out. Make this legitimate by establishing critical thinking as a process outside of our partisan stupidities.
@d.cannuscio3151
@d.cannuscio3151 5 лет назад
"Trump-Russia Trump-Russia Trump-Russia Trump-Russia Trump-Russia Trump-Russia...." - David Pakman
@EamonKelly
@EamonKelly Год назад
At no point is Trump or Russia mentioned in this video.
@d.cannuscio3151
@d.cannuscio3151 Год назад
@@EamonKelly
@viktorviktorelius4032
@viktorviktorelius4032 5 лет назад
Love how David calls Jordan Peterson a life coach then makes posts like these 😂😂😂
@missalbania9260
@missalbania9260 2 года назад
Nicely explained video; however, I hate youre left-leaning politics in the guise of "independent" thinking
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