CrossCountry Turbostar Review! What are their regional services like?

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Up this week, we take a look at one of CrossCountry's regional Turbostar services!
Date of Travel: October 2020
Class of Travel: Standard Class (2nd Class)
Rolling Stock: Class 170 Turbostar
Cost of Ticket: £8.60 ($11.85, €10.05 including railcard discount of ⅓)
Origin: Birmingham, United Kingdom (England)
Destination: Nottingham, United Kingdom (England)
Other info: As you might expect given the length of the journey, no catering was provided on this train.
I forgot to mention in the video, First Class seating is also available on the train.
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@barryroberts2196 3 года назад

If the leg room wasn't bad enough, on your walk through the train, we find some plonker who thinks they can place their suit case in the isle !!!. Nice work, keep it up.

@TeamasTwiffleton 18 дней назад

Yup, some people really have no common sense. Although, considering the size of the racks provided, it does make sense.

@taniaedwards4702 3 года назад

For me Tamworth is famous for pigs. The Tamworth Two, who escaped en route to the abattoir and were rescued and allowed to live out their lives naturally. Enjoy watching your videos, always look forward to Friday!

@cdsmith9553 3 года назад

After a long and stressful week, this is exactly what I need to help me relax! Really enjoy and look forward to your videos every week!

@DylansTravelReports 3 года назад

Glad you're enjoying the content! Hope you are doing well!

@shavedphil 3 года назад

Worth mentioning that Derby is also famous for the Bombardier train manufacturing company.

@sprinterofficial8457 3 года назад

I thought bombardier was in burton on Trent

@shavedphil 3 года назад

I think you may be wrong.

@ace-paidinfull5240 2 года назад

@@sprinterofficial8457 nope derby

@Showtime6192009 2 года назад

@@sprinterofficial8457 I Live In Derby And Been Past The Factory Many Times.

@AymanTravelTransport 2 года назад

I remember when I first saw these on the train to Cambridge back in the day when I lived in Essex, I was so impressed by how much nicer they were compared to the 317s I normally rode at the time (I was like "how is this diesel train so much more modern than the electrics"); it was the train that got me into trains!

@1954alister 3 года назад

I haven't tried the cross country turbostars but use the Scotrail ones on a regular basis and I have got to confess that I quite like them. Usually try to get the priority row near the entrance which has much better legroom. Would always move if someone needed it.

@moose_ringo9161 3 года назад

The trains themselves are fine but for many years they would be packed to the rafters! A two-car train often showed up on ridiculously busy services on the Cambridge - Peterborough - Leicester - Birmingham line which was nowhere near enough. But using 170s now around Northern is quite enjoyable, and I agree with you about the priority seat

@Taek2017 2 года назад

Do the transport for Wales Turboster Do Ebbw vale town to Cardiff central such a senic route

@epender 2 года назад

@@moose_ringo9161 Oh tell me about it! I was on a ScotRail class 170 just a few weeks ago, and at peak time, there were only three carriages! I had to stand with my suitcase squished against the door because I couldn't get through to the luggage rack. This was during a 50% reduction in service, you would've thought they would couple two sets together since they had some spare trains, but nope! Doesn't seem to be a problem unique to one operator

@artfuldodger4850 3 года назад

Very interested in this journey as I know the route and the rolling stock well. You were lucky in travelling when you did, because my experience is that these trains are usually busy. Get 3 or 4 adults travelling together with their obligatory two large suitcases each plus hand luggage and you can guess there isn’t much room for the other 50 passengers. Never understood why Cross Country, as the name suggests covers from Penzance to Aberdeen, operates trains with 2/3 carriages with the 170s and 4/5 carriages on the long haul 220/221s. Pre-Covid travel on XC was a nightmare. Shame really because it is the main provider of routes travelled as its name suggests. They try hard with very limited resources.

@AymanTravelTransport 2 года назад

Hopefully the DfT will let them have the rest of the Voyager/Meridian fleet once Avanti and EMR are done with them so this capacity problem is sorted!

@aaronarshad3687 2 года назад

I always find it so cool to see an Intercity operator such as XC operating trains like a class 170!

@dasmaurerle4347 3 года назад

Wow, I'm impressed by the beautiful dome in Birmingham. It looks fabulous

@wayneg9040 3 года назад

A bit of a nostalgic trip for me, as my paternal grandmother was from Nottingham. She immigrated to the US at the turn of the 20th Century. What little I saw of Nottingham at the end of your report seemed nice.

@petebrooksbank 3 года назад

Hello from Nottingham! It's a brilliant city, lots of transformation in the last few years. The area around the station in particular is much nicer than it was even 5-6 years ago, and with the hated Broadmarsh now being demolished it'll be even better in a few years.

@telemachus53 3 года назад

As was my maternal grandfather who lived in Dryden Street. I went back about 6 years ago and the houses had been demolished to make way for student residences. Pity.

@wayneg9040 3 года назад

@@petebrooksbank Thanks for the update, cuz. If international travel ever returns to normal maybe I'll get to the UK and will make it a priority to visit my ancestral city.

@wayneg9040 3 года назад

@@telemachus53 My father's clan originated in Wales. When my brother visited some years ago he used information regarding family births, deaths and weddings written in the family Bible to identify the correct Welsh town. The town was essentially intact from back in the day although he couldn't identify a specific address or street.

@CarolgTX 2 года назад

Looks like it was a nice ride for a commuter from either city to point in between or for the entire journey. Thanks for taking us along!

@marks238 2 года назад

Remember passing through and changing trains at the old New Street in the 80s and 90s. What a transformation (for the better). Great video as always :))

@rmc1461 3 года назад

I travelled on this service back in 2019 and to be fair the trains were good, but as you said leg room is very bad if you are tall. The train I took was a 3 car unit and packed, I paid £24 (purchased the day before at New Street as no cheaper tickets offered online) and it was the only time I wished for a Voyager as I felt cramped on the train (like you I am over 6 foot). I was glad that the return train was not as busy.

@kevinellis8869 3 года назад

Glad you had a 3 car unit, often it's two and they're often just two on the full service to Cardiff. I used to use it once a week pre-covid and the overcrowding used to be bad.

@dazzlingdaz187 3 года назад

Overcrowding is making a comeback. I was on a XC from Bristol to Exeter yesterday and it was ridiculously full

@John_Fugazzi 2 года назад

I was surprised by the length of the trip which is very short for this channel, but short trips deserve coverage as they are very frequently what people make. Except for the abysmal leg room it looked like a nice trip.

@andrewwilson6240 3 года назад

This used to be my regular commute. It brought back memories! I was amazed how quiet New Street was. A sign of the times I guess. Nice to see my local station - Beeston - featured too. It may have been worth mentioning that it is the site of the HQ and main factory/ distribution centre for Boots.

@mrowl-the-dsm1304 3 года назад

Another shout for Tamworth, it should be noted that historically Tamworth was the capital of Kingdom of Mercia. line/platform you were on crosses the West Coast Main Line which passes underneath and a lot of interchange of passengers. so its just not Reliant cars ( including Scimitars).

@mitchellhurd9300 3 года назад

I've used these trains on occasions since Friday 26th May 2006. As of now, I think they're extremely reliable trains! I could be wrong but if the Avanti West Coast Voyagers transfer to CrossCountry then I believe the Cardiff to Nottingham services could be operated by Voyagers if the Birmingham to Nottingham and Leicester local services are run by another operator. Voyagers on Cardiff to Nottingham services mean InterCity trains and more of an InterCity service rather than regional! Also don't forget the Voyagers have plug sockets which the XC 170's only have in First Class. As a result, 170's will increase capacity on the Stansted Airport routes. That would be an interesting move 🙂.

@Pulsarnix 3 года назад

Dylan: "Ryanair told me they'd like their legroom back" Me: Laughs in 5ft7 Also, when I went past those sidings near Derby, in addition to all the old rolling stock, there were several 769 Flex units waiting to enter into service with GWR

@ace-paidinfull5240 2 года назад

What services are they going to do those ex 319s?

@petebrooksbank 3 года назад

Can't complain about any station that features a branch of Pho!

@TheArkamedBat 2 года назад

Love how XC added seats near the doors as the Turbostars in XC get very busy most of the time...

@pega17pl 3 года назад

(1:51) Germany's main train stations now look like large malls with tracks in the basement. - Heinz

@PeteBrandy 3 года назад

Nice video! Diesel units in the UK never stop to interest me. But the legroom was.. Wizzair style :-D Unfortunately, there are only a few newer diesel trains in operation in the EU, and unfortunately the ICE TD has already been retired. But we have many old school diesel trains in my country.. Btw. I hope you enjoyed the M262 "Cupboard" motor coach to Praha - Zličín last week :-D

@DylansTravelReports 3 года назад

Thanks Pete! Yes, these aren't the best but we have newer ones in the north of England! The railcar was amazing! Got lucky with my day in Prague as I was only there 1 day and it was the right day for the railcar 😁

@SteveTaksler 3 года назад

Wonderful, thanks for sharing

@louisthetravelspotter 3 года назад

great video dylan mate on the xc turbo in 2016 i been on a voyager from leeds to wakefield westgate and i done darlington to durham on a super voyager both in standard class

@MIkeDye200202holla 2 года назад

Great video! The 170s really could do with a refresh

@cooltrain-ce9ze 3 года назад

Great Video! I have personally took this journey on a CrossCountry Class 170 (170114) between Derby and Tamworth and the seats were good and reasonably comfortable. Was nothing too special but I found it a very pleasant journey. :)

@paultidd9332 2 года назад

I’ve noticed legroom on trains can vary from to seat because of equipment on the floor they are trying to hide!

@alfiehnotts 3 года назад

As a local to Nottingham, I have travelled on these units very often, and overall I find them very disappointing. I frequently see 2 car sets being put on the Nottingham to Cardiff route, and they are often overflowing and people sometimes cannot even get on the train. *I have had to sit in a luggage rack before* , I have seen one one of the folding seats almost fall off the wall. The seats are very tired, the interior quality is appalling, with scrapes, cracks and general wear and tear not being looked after properly. The tray tables rattle uncontrollably and the prices are outrageous. They charge £18 for a 14 mile journey (Even with a railcard). I always try to avoid the cross country 170s as much as possible.

@colin.d 3 года назад

Yes, this has been the often quoted complaint with CrossCountry - overcrowding in trains that are far too short for demand (pre-pandemic anyway)

@aaronarshad3687 2 года назад

similar Carriages to those at 8:33 were stabled at Dundee since the first Inter7city hsts had commenced testing back in 2017/18. They got recently taken down to Derby.

@suthonlimchawalit9257 2 года назад

Beautiful train station and nice train!

@Listenerandlearner870 2 года назад

Turbos are terrific if nicely furnished and long enough.

@andywelch2350 3 года назад

Burton on Trent is my home station as i live in Swadlincote. Burton is also famous for Burton Albion and St George's Park

@raytheron 3 года назад

Great vid as always, Dylan! I can't wait for your videos of your current Central European excursins!

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed 😁

@PaulWJohnson 3 года назад

Great to see Birmingham as your starting point. Before refurbishment it was not the best experience of a main train station, but thankfully it's a lot better now.

@shirleynitka5030 3 года назад

watched this early today on my TV. Takes me a while to get to my computer to comment. Another nice journey. Wish it was a little longer. I like seeing the world thru your eyes. Missed hearing you explain the trip, again. If I'm reading, I can't enjoy the scenery. One thing I can say is, you are no "look at me now" kind of person. I'd like to see you once in a while. Not just in the bathroom mirror. I do appreciate your showing that pitiful leg room. My hubby would have a bear of a time. Those other cars seemed packed with travelers. As you walk from car to car, the aisles look a bit tight. I'm disabled. I'd be bumping into everyone as I go. That suitcase in the aisle doesn't work either. All in all, one more enjoyable trip. Thanks.

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed!

@williamevans6277 2 года назад

You should see the cute first class bit on this train. It has 9 seats in it and costs lots of money

@Basset86Trains09 3 года назад

I have only seen the XC ones but never been on one before, will need to do it soon! Lovely trip report and hope to see loads more soon! Will need to do some more trip reports soon!

@DanielsUKT 2 года назад

Nice journey on the regional cross-country train the interior does look fairly modern and new street station looks very nice as a modern refurbishment

@ronalddevine9587 3 года назад

It looked like a very smooth ride. The coaches looked comfy. Didn't appreciate many people not wearing masks, and one with the suitcase in the aisle. Somewhat inconsiderate of others. My guess about carpet on the luggage racks is to protect the luggage and keep it in place.

@mattevans4377 3 года назад

What about the people with exemptions?

@ronalddevine9587 3 года назад

@@mattevans4377 exemptions for what? Spreading covid because they don't believe how contagious it is?

@mattevans4377 3 года назад

@@ronalddevine9587 Exemptions from wearing a mask. And you call others inconsiderate.....

@ronalddevine9587 3 года назад

@@mattevans4377 exemption from wearing a mask???? How thoughtless, selfish, and inconsiderate of other people, possibly even spreading the disease. If they don't want to mask up, STAY HOME, and don't put others at risk.

@mattevans4377 3 года назад

@@ronalddevine9587 Some people can't stay at home becuase they need to get stuff (not everything is online), and they don't have anyone to do it for them. Do I really have to explain this?

@interstat2222 3 года назад

John Lewis will close down in Birmingham New Street soon. They were the major anchor store when it opened in 2015!

@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 3 года назад

that's a line i've not travelled along.. I will have to do the Derby - Tamworth part to view all that duff stock entering Derby. thank you

@warmachineuk 3 года назад

I found Birmingham New Street confusing as I was changing services with huge luggage. The areas were split between gate lines and I didn't have the time to risk an automated gate getting confused as I carried a huge load.

@PhysicsAirline 3 года назад

I had that issue also when I passed through in August 2019. I found it to be one of the worst layed out stations.

@sodorflubbs5000 3 года назад

I remember this train well. Fell asleep on it coming from Birmingham and panicked. Jumped off at Nottingham and left my handbag with everything in on the train. Then spent the rest of the day and a trip back to Brum to get the thing!! Lol

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Wow, that sounds like quite the day!

@lippyfrybender4622 2 года назад

Nice video I'm sorry you had to go to Nottingham ! 😁😁

@lambertwalks5929 2 года назад

Wonderful video great work

@peterjohnson1012 3 года назад

Loved the RyanAir comment!

@wasted-blaster. 3 года назад

I love the 170s I remember them well in stunning midland mainline teal back in late90s early 2000s as a kid watching them fly through leagrave on their way to St pancras.

@donl5941 3 года назад

Nicely done Dylan. Thank you. The train sure is forgettable but like you say, for 90 minutes it's tolerable.

@LWR1 3 года назад

Been on these trains the seats are really comfy

@JoshNunnyt 3 года назад

YESSS Dylan back with a UK report!

@DavidChilson 2 года назад

I liked CrossCountry's ThurboStar product. During a 2019 visit to the UK, I took one from Peterborough to Ely and during the journey, they had a refreshments trolley come through the car. By comparison, a GreaterAnglia ThurboStar I took was just 2 cars and had no refreshments trolley.

@harryelliott4310 3 года назад

Trains Station 🚉 Birmingham To Nottingham CrossCountry

@cerberus6654 3 года назад

When you walked into the train station I thought 'what does that ceiling make me think of?' Then it clicked! The mask/logo of Deadmau5.

@tonymcdonnly6492 3 года назад

Nice video as always, Dylan. To bad you had no leg room. The 2nd class features were way to cramped. Me, I would have booked this train at 2nd class on short notice. Otherwise, because of you, Dylan, I would have booked a first class ticket! 😁

@JKVisFX 3 года назад

I'm a tall guy, 6'4". That lack of legroom would be a non-starter for me since it is pretty unlikely I would be able to actually fit in those seats. I'd have to find another form of transit. I really, really wish that public transit operators would stop making their vehicles inaccessible to people over six feet.

@CrazySquirrelProductions 3 года назад

Thanks Dylan!!! 🙏❤️✌️

@richardblackwell1230 2 года назад

Use to use these trains between Birmingham and Ely. Always found them very comfortable but the lack of power sockets was always a pain

@davidmartin6116 3 года назад

Nice video Dylan. You travelled on the final leg (Birmingham to Nottingham) of the 11.45 Cardiff Central to Nottingham CrossCountry service. CrossCountry operate hourly Cardiff-Nottingham services using Turbostar 170s in each direction throughout the day. In my opinion, Turbostar's are unsuitable (often overcrowded, poor leg-room etc) for an end-to-end journey which takes almost 3.5 hours.

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Thanks! I thought it was, but this train started this service in Birmingham.

@davidmartin6116 2 года назад

@@DylansTravelReports So how come there are already passengers on board in your shots of the service arriving at Birmingham New Street platform 11A?

@albertweir5070 3 года назад

looks like a nice train pretty sceenery have a nice trip stay well cheers mate

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed!

@ace-paidinfull5240 2 года назад

My favourite class of train before i started loving the electrostars

@rezaalan3991 3 года назад

Great trip.

@TheSpotify95 3 года назад

7:13 It's not uncommon for on board Wi-Fi to be slow. I've recently started travelling with EMR again, and their wi-fi is painfully slow, it can sometimes be better to just use your own 4G! Thankfully, Turbostars do not have RF filtering and therefore 4G coverage is good. Tethering from your own phone would likely be the best option!

@thellamaking7248 2 года назад

I use this route to go from Birmingham New Street To Tamworth because that’s where Drayton Manor Park Is

@Bobslogistics001 3 года назад

Nice video, And also I have travelled on these from Leicester to Birmingham and back many times to see friends and family and one time the 170 I was travelling on *Stalled* at speed and when I got off the train at Birmingham New Street the Heat from the Engine was mad high, I legit burnt myself getting off the train :( I have never seen a train that unhealthy before, hope nobody else has the same experience that I had

@georgedowns4034 3 года назад

I actually quite like the interior feel- very light, airy and a decent colour scheme.

@TeamWolfmountain 3 года назад

These trains sure arent made for leg room

@HumbertoMesa 3 года назад

Thanks for another ride !!!

@nicholasjones2588 3 года назад

Try it on a journey from Birmingham to stansted. Almost 4 hours of pure hell

@tornado1986cw 3 года назад

I have been on these from Peterborough to Stansted airport, and I think there quite alright, very comfy seats and smooth ride can't fault them really

@Je.Suis.Flaneur 3 года назад

Frankly, as a Yank, I'm quite scared of Nottingham. That is where the Sheriff of Nottingham jailed Robin Hood and held King John for ransom. As a tourist, I'm not going someplace where the authorities jail (US Spelling) or gaol someone on fake charges. LOL!

@kippen64 3 года назад

I know that your comment was in jest but that happens for real in the USA and no doubt other places too.

@michaausleipzig 3 года назад

Thanks for another cool travel video. If you don't mind my asking I have noticed over the course of your british rail videos that it seems to be far more common there for rail lines to not be electrified compared to Germany. Is that indeed the case and if so, why? Over here electrification of existing lines is pretty much always ongoing and it's the precondition for any long distance service by now, with very few exceptions. Also if you like to see a collection of weird old rolling stock check out the new-ish InterCity line from Dresden to Warnemünde via Berlin and Neustrelitz. Near the latter station there's a rail graveyard with some cool looking stuff. Also this line is operated by 4 car long double decker EMUs making them Germany's shortest long distance trains. Don't know who had that bright idea as - I kid you not! - a few weeks ago the conductor asked for some passengers to volontarily leave the train as it was overcrowded and couldn't continue ... for safety reasons... 😅🤦‍♂️

@theobrattinga500 3 года назад

Great video !!

@DylansTravelReports 3 года назад

Thanks!

@aliceunicorn979 3 года назад

Nice video

@tomwatts703 3 года назад

I'm about to take this exact train and route tomorrow, good to know what to expect 😄

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Hope you enjoyed your trip!

@tomwatts703 2 года назад

@@DylansTravelReports it was great, though I can't really say the same for the EMR 156 service I had to take from Nottingham 😅

@mitchellheard8981 3 года назад

The Tamworth I'm familiar with is the country music capital of Australia. Didn't realise the UK had a Tamworth. Those trains look cramped.

@CreativeEm 3 года назад

The UK got theirs first... yours was likely named after it

@fireflyrobert 3 года назад

Hope you had a nice time in my home town. I only wish there was a direct service from Nottingham to Bham International to travel to Bham airport. I find changing at Bham New Street a bit of a pain not to mention the extra time involved.

@amtrakharry 2 года назад

Very interesting video. That seat pitch looked awful !!! I'm 6'6" tall . It would be like a cork in a wine bottle... There is know first class on these trains so I don't think I will be riding them... :(:(:( Thanks for sharing...:):):)

@fuzzynutter8344 3 года назад

I never quite worked out why there was never a regional variant of the Turbostar. Unless Central Trains who operated these regional services back in the day, and which XC inherited, specified this configuration so that there was one standard variant of the 170 for both their commuter and regional services. And it shows in the layout, not great for long distance.

@mrweaslio2810 2 года назад

My local station (New Street) featured on the channel! How did you find Birmingham itself, Dylan?

@timbounds7190 3 года назад

Ah..Birmingham New St....looks much nicer up-top than it used to, but same hell-hole down below! The gangway on the Turbostar looked very narrow - must be very unpleasant when it gets crowded.

@MartinRivers26 3 года назад

The worst thing about those trains are the seats. No leg room and the seat back is too short. Which for me means either getting poked in the back by the headrest or being forced to slouch.

@imsbvs 3 года назад

Reminds me of the current gaps in my life, been to Birmingham by train many times, much easier than driving especially as the Dartford road crossings are so unreliable. As a very vulnerable person I cannot use public transport if there are unmasked others about. Hopefully come 2022 things will improve. Also, shame about the closure of the John Lewis department store, hope the site will be given a new lease of life soon.

@michalislamprinos38 3 года назад

Enjoyable ride with beautiful weather. However, the narrow legroom isn't for me 😵 (2m tall). Thanks for sharing ☺️

@Andrewjg_89 3 года назад

Maybe Crosscountry could operate from Norwich and Stansted Airport to Leeds, York, Lincoln, Cardiff Central, Nottingham, Birmingham New Street, Derby, Sheffield, Manchester Piccadilly or Manchester Victoria and Liverpool Lime Street. With using Class 170 Turbostar DMUs.

@Marcsharp82 3 года назад

I live in Leicester, On the Stansted Airport-Birmingham corridor and I've gotta say that for me, The XC 170s are the worst out of all the 170s, The interior is cramped, Overcrowding is rife, Legroom is non existent (as you pointed out) and tickets are not cheap. Me and my wife refuse to travel on Cross Country when possible.

@JacobsTrainVideos 3 года назад

Mixed feelings about these trains. They are decent regional trains but have defects in passenger amenities. For example, no plug sockets and they are undercapacity for the routes they do, they are NEVER joined up which means you could be on a 2 car from Cardiff to Nottingham! And I found they were crowded every time I rode on one. On the up side, the seats are comfortable, not including legroom, and the air conditioning makes it a bit more pleasant especially when crowded.

@bwolper 3 года назад

Even for a short ride, I think the seat pitch was a little unreasonable. As you walked through, it seemed quite a bit cramped.

@telemachus53 3 года назад

"...the Beer in Britain is Brewed in Burton". Okkkay... BTW It could be that the luggage stacks are carpeted to prevent rolling around of luggage. (spoken from bitter experience!)

@elijade99 3 года назад

Highlight of the week 😅

@DylansTravelReports 3 года назад

Thanks 😊

@ttvvideos2050 3 года назад

hope they go at some point

@dsdonovan 3 года назад

Great Ryan Air comment! The leg room looked miserable and the width of the passenger aisle seemed very narrow. Are those smaller cars?

@DylansTravelReports 2 года назад

Just tge standard UK loading guage I think.

@interstat2222 3 года назад

Value engineering: the DMU edition. A 5 coach HST or even a 158 Express Sprinter would've made this a nicer ride.

@mirandamom1346 3 года назад

Graffiti- that’s the livery I’m most familiar with 😏

@DamoMcDermott 2 года назад

rolls royce crown derby and train building👍👍👍

@holyflowerpots1400 3 года назад

First, let me lament the passing of John Lewis at Grand Central. Also note these trains have decent a/c which was great in the summer (compared to the 323s, one of which was at platform 12 when you got on at BHM)

@GTLPT 2 года назад

Could you test the 195s on Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly

@JustClickApprove92 2 года назад

I love the 170s, but the CrossCountry and West Midlands Railways examples are horrible. I didn’t know what a good class 170 looked like until I used one of ScotRail's examples