Crysis vs Q6600/8800GT 2007 PC : Yesterday's Tech Tested With Today's Performance Tools 

God those were the times lol. I remember hearing shit like crysis at Max setting could crash a nasa super computer

I beat it with 12 fps..

I was in college at the time. I wouldn't have a computer that could hope to run this game for another four years or so...and even then the game wouldn't launch because of windows 7/10 compatibility issues.

You’re too young still. I’m nostalgic for dos games.

lol like I had a gaming PC in 2007

Arrest this man.

@@jasonandrews7355 Lol

Crazy eh?

By 1 year.

Dude could you not

playing Crysis at 1024*768 med/high mix settings on my Radeon X1950 Pro ~20-30fps in DX9. Good times :) and before dat: playing Far Cry 1 on my Geforce 4 MX 440 in DX7 mode :D

Yeah, cool graphics made up a lot for bad frame rates back then. I used to play at Oblivion at 640x480 just so I could run it at high settings. Totally worth it at the time. 😎

@@therealbluedragon Oblivion on my Geforce 7300GT DDR2 only playable at 800x600 (or 1024 maybe?) + low settings + low poly grass mod :D The grass is the real system killer in that game.

I played and completed the game on Radeon 9550 128mb and Celereon 1.7, so yeah xD You can find it on youtube: "CRYSIS on Celeron 1.7; Radeon 9550 128MB; 1280MB RAM" That's my old account ;)

"...b-but can it run Crysis?"

Games for Windows LIVE entered the Chat.... makes it unplayable.

@@cladoxylopsida568 ikr they are asking for it.

Pretty sure GTA suffers from similar issues to Crysis, it responds well to faster clock speeds but ultimately CPU's didn't move in that direction (more cores/threads instead) so I think that's why it still performs badly.

@@TinyChrisTV They actually patched GTAIV, so now it runs without GFWL. Runs better as well.

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Sean H not as big of a leap that Vr is compared to playing games just on a monitor

coolertuep but the nature of VR being more intensive means VR games don’t look as good as non-VR games so it’s not a graphical leap

David Restrepo It’s not about graphics alone but about how it looks. In Vr everything looks like Reality. Real scale, plastic 3D. It’s not just pixels and shaders, it’s a lot more

coolertuep depth of field sucks on VR. It's literally why I sold my Oculus. Super immersion breaking.

@@coolertuep it's the exact same 3D graphics though. Technically if you could implement VR support into any of the recent major AAA games and had the PC to run it, it would look significantly better than any VR titles out right now. I'm all for VR, I have an Oculus Rift S and use it regularly. But it is a shift in perspective, it doesn't do anything for graphical technology. Frankly it's actually a regression when it comes to that because developers have to dial back a lot of graphical features and post-processing in order to get the consistent framerates needed for good VR experience. Crysis was using multiple different brand new graphics technologies that wouldn't be widely adopted by the rest of the industry for at least 6-7 years. It was miles ahead of other games at the time. To give you an example, Crysis came out the same year as Valve's Orange Box. If you compare HL2 Ep2 and Crysis both at maximum settings, its like comparing an Xbox 360 game to an Xbox One X game. It was a complete generational leap. VR is great but what makes it good doesn't really have anything to do with graphical rendering techniques or post-processing techniques.

I sure do. Played it again for a couple of hours a couple of months ago. Some of the visuals have aged a bit but the fun shooting and spooky atmosphere still hold up really well.

@@Shieftain the buildings which you see from a window didn't hold up at all. look like cardboard boxes.

My favourite FPS of all time. I play it at least once a year, every year.

A lot better than crysis

Check out Trepang 2!. It's basically a 2020 fear game

+1

it ran great bc it had dx7 support

UP

Yooo AMD Sempron...Had a 2800+. Really good budget CPU line. Kicked Celeron ass.

Win. Completely unrelated, I actually think, using ray tracing for sound, is going to be much more important for multiplayer games, than expecting it to be implemented for light, anytime soon.

They did real time ambient occlusion first in gaming right? Could you share some highlights? Any thoughts on Crysis post process anti-aliasing they only applied to leaves on branches? It made the trees look so dense and realistic, never saw that technique copied since then and its such a shame!

@@SamuelHauptmannvanDam I never thought of that but that's actually a novel and incredible idea. Using ray tracing to simulate the propagation of sound, echoing and refraction, destructive interference and etc. can really give "Surround" sound another meaning.

@@Xyos212 No they didn't do it first.... Ghost Recon did...

@@almighty151986 SSAO are you sure? I've seen presentations by Crytek and tech books saying they did SSAO first. MAybe Ghost Recon did a lesser form of AO?

I had the 9800+, with 512mb ram. They did one with 1gig ram too I think.

@@ian260672 Yep, thats the one i had 😊

Does svideo stand for shit video?

S-Video was released with S-VHS (Super VHS) and it has a lot better picture quality than composite

@@GeraintDafis there really wasn't much choice back then. most gpus didn't even have a tv-out port.

Playing F.E.A.R on my old Radeon 9600 Pro (with setting much higher than they should have been) was painful but so much fun. I still remember being blown away by the AI and the deformation of walls/props.

@@monkohm6918 First time I played F.E.A.R. was a demo on my Emachine 2.4ghz celeron, 512mb ram, FX 5500 PCI. It ran ok on Dx8. For fun I changed it to all max settings...computer froze and it popped my power supply 🤣

I remember playing F.E.A.R. on my old pc with a MX440 at 640x480 with the half resolution setting turned on. It looked so bad but I could run it lol. Love F.E.A.R. just as much as Crysis

You're right. I ran this game with a single core athlon 3800+ with a Radeon HD 4550 512MB DDR3. I played it quite a while after release though...

I would say more since in 2012 games were still being made with the xbox 360 and ps3 in mind.

There's only a handful true sandbox games like Crysis today. Its' environmental destruction is still advance even for current gen..

10 years ahead at least

@@Dragonfury3000 i wish that was it. AI has stagnated, graphics have gotten better in some games but game mechanics outside of indies have been lazy at best. too much playing it safe really

I believe in terms of graphics and destructible environments Battlefield 3 in 2011 was the first game that managed to really catch up with crysis.

Damn right. A lot of people just see it as a tech demo, and i'll bet those people never played it. I went through the campaign countless times, and downloaded a huge bunch of custom maps, those were amazing.

If you think about it.......Crysis was the last AAA PC game ever made not counting MMOs. Truly an end to AAA PC gaming. Steam saved PC gaming but the AAA never came back. sad

EASY TO ESTIMATE THOUGH... just look at the GPU usage and if it shows, say, 50% usage then you can roughly estimate that your FPS would double with no CPU bottleneck

The GPU usage is always above 75% and often above 90% so it wouldn't change that much.

Might get it to a solid 30fps or more at least. But at the same time I think it's also not that interesting, I highly doubt many people are rocking an 8800GT and a modern CPU. The knowledge would be cool tho I suppose.

Its not a cpu bottleneck here, its a vram issue. The 512mb on the 8800gt is the massive problem here. We can tell you do not know shit, and really didnt watch the proper part of the video that even talks about the vram weeb.

MSI Afterburner paired with Rivatuner is the answer you seek

That was possibly the blurriest video I have ever seen in my life, and I used to download cam rips on Kazaa.

@@spork8655 tbh low res RU-vid videos looked better back in the old days. RU-vid did some shit I don't understand to make them look way worse now days. Like my 2008 crysis videos look a lot worse than they did in 2008. Overly Compressed now compared to then maybe? Idk.

Kougeru suffling around the videos on to new servers for 14 years probably caused issues.

@@Kougeru You might be right, I have heard that RU-vid has changed the compression algorithm they use over the years. I have also seen some old videos exhibiting audio issues all of a sudden - Neil Cicierega's "Ariel Needs Legs" comes to mind... I don't know. Maybe RU-vid re-compressed a bunch of old videos and we are seeing the ill effects.

I played it on an Acer 2930G laptop. Core 2 Duo P7350 at 2.0 GHz, a 9600M GT with 512 MB of dedicated VRAM, and 4 GB of RAM. It was playable, and I beat it, but the experience wasn't great lol. If I remember correctly I had to drop to medium to have it run at 30 FPS, and Crysis looks like ass at Medium or lower

I had a Phenom 9850 BE, paired with a GTX 260 Core 216. I am still not sure why I did not get a Q6600. The 9850 BE was such a bad OCer. Also, mad respect for beating the game on integrated AMD! I remember playing Doom 3 on my emachine 2.4 GHZ celeron and FX 5500 PCI not even AGP card. Got a sick 8-15 fps..beat the whole game like that XD

I also used a HD 3300. Great times.

@@MetalJody1990 Right! Great times man! That gigabyte motherboard sure was interesting... I even overclocked mine a little haha!

@@libertyxs5035 Respect to you too man! Haha we did whatever we could to finish that game though 😁😄😂

i hate that this is true

Nah, new tech, the physics and a few graphical effects are better than 99% of games built with consoles in mind

@@bonjovi7399 new tech? you are aware this game is 13 years old? i know a lot of the tech is still used but that doesn't make it new. and the fact that this is a 'retro' game but still looks better than a lot of todays games is kinda sad tbh, hopefully next gen will be a true leap and not a small one like current and last gen

Killzone 2 was a DF retro.

Tyson Fury Yeah that confused me too.

and i see most annoying camera movement ever

Lol true. I have very fond memories of overclocking my mums old work laptop trying to get ghost recons phantoms to run at 20fps.

@John Doe yeah... I literally reinstalled it yesterday and I can't get it to 60 at least locked... in really quiet areas it's easily hitting 144fps but that's with nothing going on

But to the average gamer the appreciable graphic leap over raytraced vs rasterized shadows and reflections often isn't as big as the graphics leap in Crysis over other games back in 2007.

I constantly bring things like that up to the people that's bashing on Raytracing. Like when AA first came around.

@@2drealms196 crysis still had many issues tho. especially the handling of LODs was awful. and I bet once people actually get exposure to RT reflections they never want to go back

Yes the 8 series had this issue.

I had a 8600 gts from xfx never sow that problem. Im thinking too how did that hapen to you?

@@candidosilva7755 my brother had net cafe and all the pcs had 8 series cards. All failed on ane way or onother. They were amazing cards bad they had core packaging issues.

And here I am playing skyrim in vr @120fps ;)

well, even a calculator can run Skyrim better

My spit can run Skyrim better :D

november 13 years

I still have mine in a box somewhere

I had a Q9550 back then dont know if it was batter than this

they weren't that good. the 2500k was waaaaaaaaaaaay better at overclocking

I have a AMD R9 280 and I can do a 38% overclock :D

Unless you had the B3 stepping.The G0 though was a totally different beast.

E8400 wasn't released until 2008

@@Pasi123 You do realize that Crysis didnt cease to exist at midnight on 12-31-2007 right

I still have a Q6600 @ 3.0GHz in my HTPC

The BRIGHTNESS of a flashlight is probably a choice they made that had nothing to do with the actual technology. I'm aware there are multiple improvements with different aspects of light but in terms of just brightness there are reasons you don't want it too bright. Horror genres are a great example. You may want just enough light to illuminate but not too much. And in real life a flashlight often doesn't illuminate as much as you might think, speaking as a guy who was in the Army.

@@photonboy999 no, in real life MODERN flashlights do illuminate a huge amount. I got this tiny flashlight off amazon for a couple bucks that can illuminate a whole 20m by 40metre garden on a moonless night. These sort of flashlights just did not exist 10 years ago, no one seemed to predict that within a decade they'd get so much better.

One year later, Nvidia released the 9600 GT. It was 90% the performance of the 8800 GT for 55% of the price. Crazy good ratios.

It's not at all, it's Gpu bottlenecked. Better cpus are pointless at low frame rates anyway.

@@WookieWarriorz The AI part shows a bit where it clearly needs more CPU and the GPU is just at 60%. The CPU utilization percentage is a red herring at that part, it looks like that because windows is shuffling the one big thread that's bottlenecking. Games back then had virtually zero multithreading, at most they could take some advantage of a second thread.

Ty4ons Crysis 1 was a pioneer in this as well - the game could actually spread to up to 4 cores, which was almost unheard of at the time. So it was multithreaded, unfortunately it just wasn't multithreaded *well* with stuff like the AI scaling poorly - so you needed both good single thread performance *and* at least a dual core CPU for best results.

@@WookieWarriorz , You clearly didn't watch the entire video or have followed much to do with Crysis. As said by Ty4ons it often dips sharply due to the CPU. Digital Foundry even showed a CPU bottleneck on an i7-8700K (but with modern graphics card so more CPU load)... also... "better CPUs are pointless at low frame rates anyway" makes absolutely no sense. If the frame rate is low then why is it low? All the FPS tells you (if it's not locked with VSYNC or other FPS cap) is that there's a bottleneck somewhere which is usually either the CPU or the GPU. So a low FPS could very well indicate the problem is your CPU not being powerful enough... perhaps you are thinking of HIGH RESOLUTION or something but even that's not always true.

lego jack 33 Daytonaaaaaaa !

Or how about, all your base are belong to us?

So true man, the intolerance and entitlement these days is shocking. I hate modern gaming, just because of the toxicity.

It was one of the best experiences when it comes to visuals in a game that i ever had, and i played it on a cheap 9600gt in 2008, high settings and some on very high, wasn't bothered by framerate at that time around 30 fps was normal. So your comment is BS.

@@1GTX1 Are you kidding? Crysis came out in 2007, and the 9600GT was launched in 2008. We played Crysis at a friends house in summer 2008. He had an high end system, probably a Geforce 8 series. The last boss fight WAS running at single digits frame rate. Iam not exaggarating. We also played Bioshock. Before accusing me telling bullshit get your basic information right.

@@atarijaguarsgarage8873 9600gt was a budget card..