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If they grade hard as they do with comics a 10 will have to be earned. RARELY does CGC ( comics divison) hand out a 10 on ANYTHING. They are a really really solid grading service.
So glad you posted this. Multiple comments said I should've compared CSG 10 to PSA10 for proper comparison, and the point I keep stating is that a 9.5 is the standard top grade for them. Just like BGS, a 10 will be handed out so rarely you oftentimes won't be able to find a recent comp for the same card when pricing with a PSA10. Therefore you will just have to use a 9.5
@@hobbylottery5014 yep for those who don't understand a 9.8 in comics is pretty much the gold standard so in the comic realm anything from 9.0 - 9.8 is gem 💎 if you land a 9.9 or holy grail 10 then you've really hit the jack pot. On the card side of things 8.5 to 9.5 is pretty solid and really good card! I think a lot of people have been programmed to hear psa 10 but honestly I wouldn't want a bunch of 10s just throwed around. My prediction is that the same thing in the comic world is headed this way ..sub 9.5 , 9s, and 8s are going to start creeping up due to the high buy in. Don't be surprised to see people snatching 7s as they come across them.
Too early to judge, there is a csg lebron bringing big money. With that said csg owns the market in comics, paper money and coins along with others items. They are no joke and the card community should respect what they do.
I truly hope the sports card community comes around to respect them because we’re desperate need of another solid grading company. The fact that they specialized in so many collectibles prior, is why I was surprised at the first look comparisons. I figured they would be one buyers/collectors radars and would get a lot of attention and bids. I’ll be watching sold listings over the next weeks
@@PIP-zf9yb They are a horrible, corrupt company. The only reason they are the "industry leader" is because they did sports cards first. Its high time someone came along to knock them down a few pegs.
@@FCT70 they are not a horrible company if they were no one would like them and they are the most popular by far. That being said I am rooting for them to have competition be much better for the hobby but they are so far ahead of everyone else right not not sure that's happening anytime soon. Bgs was once neck and neck but they are not no more sgc has shit the bed and all the rest are either newcomers or garbage in general
Future of what lol? They are fighting for a small piece of the pie in the sportscard market. It's a battle for second psa is so far ahead of everyone else
@@sp123 2nd is highly unlikely. I was rooting for them but they are a disaster as of now they are so far behind already customer service is horrible. Hopefully they can turn things around they are a nice cheap option that is atleast respectable don't see them as any kind of threat to bgs or even sgc
CSG is the same company that runs NGC. NGC has been slabbing coins since the mid 1980s and they're essentially the PSA of coin grading. They know what they're doing, and have been doing it for a while.
In person csg labels look good! I didn’t think so till I got some back. If you grade comics and coins you know csg is legit and professional! Prices should go up no fake psa 10’s actual real graded cards!!!
If you’re into flipping or just long term investments those CSG are the way to go. It’s a legitimate grade so you can buy the same desired cards for less than raw in some cases and suspect what other third party graders might give to expect immediate profit or just hold and let the market catch up to the new grading companies and gain equality,imo.
Fair point. I’m still concerned that they have to go through the process of having their values catch-up to the other grading companies though, considering they’ve been grading other collectibles for yrs. I would be less concerned if HGA didn’t just show up within a few months and sell with values that rival PSA and outperform all of the other graders. A brand new company hit the ground running from day 1.
@@hobbylottery5014 hga is selling so well because they are brand new and got a fancy looking slab they are no threat to compete with psa long term unless they actually expand they are a small fish in a large pond
@@hobbylottery5014 their new slabs will be interesting. HGA with their lottery system submission is very intriguing but time will tell. I'm not a huge fan of their slabs. I have my grail in CSG's hands atm as a walkthrough 🤞🍀
The main problem with GMA is no pop report. I also didn't see a pop report for cards graded by KSA. Without it, these companies will never be big time.
I agree I want all the new players to succeed, but HGA is my favorite with their look. Really makes the cards pop and standout and I believe they are the future letting their customers customize the slabs. CSG labels not my favorite IMO. SGC black slabs also a favorite but their labels need work.
I bought the Elite membership and am all in on CSG. $7.10 per card to be graded by leaders in the grading industry is a steal to me. We may have to hold on to the them a month or two longer until ebay prices match the quality of grade. Unfortunately, they did not come to market at the beginning of February as intended and HGA took a large share of the early 2021 market. Having said that, with their strict cap, there is room for both. PSA cards won't come back for 8-12 months. CSG is worth the initial risk. Worst case scenario, you still make a profit on them. Better to miss early than miss late.
I'm not sure if HGA took too large of a share since they capped submissions at roughly 3,000 cards each week. At most they have taken about 35,000 cards when there's millions of them still waiting to be graded. On 60 day turnarounds, it's still worth it. I was just surprised at the first sold prices, hopefully that changes over time
Yeah just feels like it’s early day jitters for potential buyers. From reviews I’ve seen of CSG graded cards people seem to be happy. They like how clear the cases are and overall solidly graded. So I think it’s just going to take a little time for buyers to start spending more. Also I’d be interested to see how the eBay sellers are marketing their auctions of these newly graded ones. If I were them I’d add language from CSG’s site about their methods and anything that legitimizes them. Super important to show they are at the level of PSA and BSG in any way shape or form early on. Just my .02. Regardless though PSA will likely stay at the top, but CSG should at least catch up to BGS at some point. Also their turnaround times/prices blow the competition out of the water! So if they can stay consistent with those two factors should help out.
These companies are so dumb. SGC could make huge inroads by just keeping the price 20 instead of 25, and offering some type of upgrades label for their slab. A silver border or something to make it pop like the pristine have with gold just silver or yellowish gold or Carolina blue. They see HGA crushing the market bc people want something aesthetically pleasing not boring like sgc and csg. Why would CSG go with an ugly green that takes up a huge size for the label. It’s so simple I don’t get why they can be so naive. Sgc has a turnaround for their slowest option of like a couple Weeks. Why is that? Ugly slabs, grade too rough and anything besides a 10 doesn’t sell or sells for less than a psa 9. If HGA could take 25000 cards a week sgc and csg would have no chance.
@@KP-AC I strongly agree on all points 👊🏾👊🏾👍🏾. One good thing about SGC is their turnaround time is about 10 days for the $25 option... at least for now. At the moment I submit to them if I can't get in with HGA. However I will be very disappointed if get all 9.5's back lol
@@KP-AC only thing CSG going for it is there price point. If you don't use the sub grades which are not needed here bulk price is 8 bucks a card can't beat that and not much risk even if they don't resell well. I'd take a csg at 8 bucks then sgc at 25 or 30 a card
I just got the highest membership. I think I'm going to use them for 80% of my cards. They may not have respect yet, but they will 100% I sent in my first 27 cards today express. Let's see what happens! Prices have gotten better since the video.
Yea I've been following sold listings almost daily, I look forward to seeing the grades you get 👍🏾. They need to fix their software from marking cards trimmed that aren't though. I've seen that on a ton of reveal videos, something seems off. On the bright side though, alot of people are saying the slab looks much better in person
@@hobbylottery5014 I talked to them about that. It's not the software it's the cases. The Altered or service unavailable is just a generic usage to kick it out. They said in April they will have the cases to support all regular-sized cards. They stated the ones that are even remotely bigger are any with foil coverings. Which if you look on youtube, a majority are in fact those types of cards.
Think about it... first cards to ebay, most that collect probably have yet to even hear of CGS. I think auctions are a mistake, I would have put them at BIN for about 70% of PSA. It is not fair to compare the first ones on the market to PSA. Give it a few months and I think it will change. You also compared a 9 to a PSA 10 totally different value. Today a pink ice went for $152 for csg 9 and the last psa 9 was $117
I get what you're saying but the first HGA cards to Ebay almost rivaled PSA at auction prices, and they give out 9.5's as the primary top grade just like CSG. To this day HGA continues to outperform everything consistently except the PSA 10 and they have less of a reputation than CSG. CSG has graded other collectibles for yrs. And should be more known than HGA so I think I was fair in the first comparisons. As far as the grade comparisons, I showed all 9's and 9.5's from CSG. They've stated that 9.5's will be their primary top grade similar to BGS, doesn't really make since to use a 10 as a comp since only 1 in 10,000 cards seem to get that grade.
Don’t agree with you here, there’s been a lot of shill bidding on those HGA. There’s also ALOT more promoting of HGA at this time. There’s no one in there right mind that would choose an HGA over BGS on any card.
@@hobbylottery5014 how can CSG be known? It is new, they took their first subs last month. As a company they been around for years but how many in the community know any of this? It will take a bit to get the word out.
that green global you show at a 9.5 brought the exact same money as the 9.5 HGA so if you want to compare them to HGA they are tie on that card. Give them 6 month and see if the results are the same. Personally think it is a bit early to judge
I just sent a bulk order to CSG at $8 each, only low end cards. The prices are a concern in the secondary market after watching your video. I agree with you on SGC, they seem tougher than PSA.
@@iowabird9091 I know right! For some reason I'm seeing alot on Ebay without subgrades. You've got to have subgrades if you're planning to sell them, otherwise you won't get much value at all.
I personally don't like sub-grades, so I get why. To me, if I am paying close to $20 to grade a card, I will wait on the longer turnaround from PSA or try HGA
I, like many of you possibly, are gathering many raw cards that you are just waiting for PSA to open up again. I am thinking that when PSA returns the prices are going to be very expensive. My thinking is I might want try out CSG. The time seems right with PSA and BGS showing no signs of returning with outlandish prices. Has anyone tried CSG? What do you think of them? I know that their parent company has tons of cash so it does not seem likely they are going anywhere. So, what do you think--should I try them out? Is anybody else thinking like I am? How do you view them in the hobby? Do they get any respect among collectors? Do you find them to be more strict or more lenient in their grading than PSA or BGS? Sorry for all the questions!!
I also am gonna send in a choice 7/8 anthony edwards which probably will represent the highest number paraell cgs had graded for draft picks this year and i sent in like 5 downtowns
It's also matter how top of lamelo cards are getting graded for instance I just sent in 2 crusades fast break pink lamelos those 2 cards will be the highest number cards cgs has graded this year I also sent in a gold explosion anthony edwards yes cgs hasn't done any lamelo or anthony gold explosion
SGC supposedly is up to date with their backlog. Has anyone thought about the ramifications of when PSA and BGS get caught up? Supposedly PSA has about 5mil backlog, what happens when 5+ million inventory enters the market? All cards will drop in price. Better sell now or someone sabotage PSA/BGS progress Lol
To be fair the draft picks card is not an investable rookie card. Please do another video in two months time when prices start to settle in. I think that the 9.5's will be on par with BGS 9.5's. And CSG 10's will be higher than PSA 10's as they will be more rare.
The point was to take a first look at CSG'S resell values compared to some of the competitors. How much the card was purchased for did not matter for this assessment, just the final sold price
I agree he should’ve used buy it now. I bet the seller was stunned at the closing sales price. I need to check if there still listing more auctions. It sucked that SGC increased prices, but for my purposes they’re still the best option. At the. Omens their turnaround time is quick and the SGC 10 brings value than anything else except PSA 10, HGA 9.5, and BGS 10 which is rarely given out.
Not misleading at all. I showed all of the sold listings at that time for for CSG 9's and 9.5's. Just like BGS, the CSG 9.5 will be their primary top grade as they've stated in articles. CSG may give out a 10, but it will be 1 out of thousands of cards that gets it. Most collectors and investor's compare BGS 9.5 to PSA 10 when purchasing a top condition card, partly because a BGS 10 doesn't exist for most cards.
@@hobbylottery5014 I checked a very popular card, the 1990 Fleer Jordan, many PSA 10 over 1300 and BGS 9.5 is around $800.... the 9.5 sells for 9 range not 10 range. So no, not fair, people pay premium for the 10 not the 9.5. If your on top of the hobby you know this is the case.
Auctions are always iffy. How many times have you won a PSA 10 at auction then resold it as Buy it Now. The same month for more $$ ? Auctions = desperate seller
those slabs and labels are way too ugly for most people(including myself) and the resell value is and will be bad. After tax, shipping, eBay fees you won't have too much left after all of that time wasted. But if you're a csg fanboy I respect you for doing what you like.
@@hobbylottery5014 they are not the greatest in looks and I saw they are super tough with grades too, that turned me off even more .... I just recently discovered your channel and I love the content, thanks for sharing and please keep em coming!
I hear you, but the Prizm Draft Picks Graded cards have been steadily going up in value for even 2nd and 3rd tier rookies. This is happening despite Hoops, Donruss, and Certified being released with the players in their team uniforms. Even so, CSG values were still far lower than the other companies as of now.
This is why I don't sell my cards on auction...I sell using buy it now only...takes slightly longer to sell...but I never get raped. Doesn't matter what you are selling on Ebay...you can get destroyed selling using auctions.
If you ever hold one I think you'll get over it as many people are. The negativity we've heard about the green will wash away soon enough. Green 🍏 is no worse a color than red 🍒 and csg slabs are the best of them all. The market is shifting and answering appropriately as time marches on.
I get a ton of comics graded by CGC and the majority of modern books come back 9.8 which is what alot of collectors of modern books want so I am going to say seeing all the 9.5 cards that this is the card version of a 9.8 graded comic.
I thought everyone was aware, but CSG's standard top grade is 9.5 just like BGS. It'll be the scenario as how collectors/investors compare BGS 9.5's to PSA10 when making a purchase. A 10 will be handed out so rarely with CSG that there oftentimes won't be one to compare for the same card
