Cult Spotlight: The New Kadampa Tradition (with Dr Michelle Haslam) 

Hi Jean. Michelle here. Yep, it's been humbling to learn that I am no less vulnerable than anyone else. Especially at a time of transition we are vulnerable to predators.

Yeap i took away the same thought makes me feel better why i felt for JWs

i stay away from all forms of religions. but my wife. well im real vulnerable.

I was thinking the same thing about both of them as I listened.

One has to be rather weak minded to feel “vulnerable”. I don’t doubt that there are a few NKT followers who get lofty and seek some higher status. It’s better to challenge people’s false superiority.

I have been studying and practicing Buddhism for 30 years and I've had the oposite experience. I have visited NKT centers all around the world and there hasn't been a single moment when I have been asked for money or to give up anything. Furthermore I have been able to heal mi mind at a very deep level. I'm no longer active with them but I think Buddha's teachings are the most precious gift a human can ever receive. We also have to remember that when practicing at communal places we are dealing with other humans, and then there is a lot of room for error. If some people screwed up that doesn't represent the whole community or their intentions in any way. I think your experience as any other experience of this world is subjective, and depends completely on how you internalize things. Much blessings.

What happened to you ?

I know a guy in mexico who was since he was 8 in tantrinc practives in kadampa. He is psrtly squizofrenic Still we wants to be there

⁠@@carlosgaribay2710…totally agree with you…always very dubious about the truth behind these posts…NEVER have I been asked for money from the NKT and NEVER have I been asked to do anything I didn’t want to…and all that the NKT had done to improve my life im forever grateful…

I also ended up in a psychiatric hospital. You are not alone

'New Kadampa Tradition aka NKT / International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Seriously Dangerious Cult. Please watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT also please read all the comments.

@michelekaterinathorsen9965 • Just keep going, then you will learn.

Watch: 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary, about this New KT and it's Cult leader. This BBC TV documentary Clearly explains the New KT founded by kelsang gyatso in 1991 is a very dangerous Cult.

I am not a follower of the new Kadampa, but I have visited temples and done volunteer work, and there is simply no sign of cult behavior in the tradition. I believe this is simply a view of the inability of Americans to embrace any culture and philosophy that "confronts" their cultural and military hegemony. All this cult talk is basically ocidental propaganda and chinese prejudice. Furthermore, the Dalai Lama is not immune to criticism, nor is Tibetan Buddhism. For centuries Tibet had a society based on slavery, and during the conflicts with China the Dalai and his brother supplied weapons to rebels and cooperated with the CIA. Not to mention the Dalai's friendship with Heinrich Harrer, a card-carrying Nazi.

Not sure how one religious group could legislate against another but good to know this particular group is disavowed by mainstream Buddhism

​@LloydEvans If a persons been in the nkt recruitment cult. Then leave or given notice, if they still want to be a monk or nun no Buddhist organisation will touch or go anywhere near them, because they've been involved in the nkt

Edward Ounapuu • The nkt has nothing to do with Buddhism. You are also being conned and deceived.This nkt is a Very Well Known Dangerious, Mind Control Cult. *Please Search: NKT Cult.*

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'New Kadampa Tradition - NKT aka International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Very Dangerious Cult. Please Watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT on many sites across the web.

Thanks Christina. I have seen it. I wasn’t around in the early days of the NKT when the programme was made, so I can’t speak about how things were back then. I can only speak from my own personal experience. Over the past 14 years, I have found Geshe Kelsang Gyatso to be a non-deceptive person whose intention has been to teach Buddhadharma in a clear, concise and comprehensive way for modern people to integrate into busy life, without losing the purity or original meaning of Buddha’s teachings. Geshe-la asked his own Spiritual Guide, Trijang Rinpoche, if it was ok to change the presentation of Tibetan Buddhism for westerners/modern people, and he said, “Cool, run with it!” or words to that effect. (Sorry I can’t remember his actual words that Gen-la Dekyong has shared in her teachings.) “People have choice,” are Geshe-la’s exact words, as are these words from his book ‘Joyful Path of Good Fortune’: “Reliance upon a Spiritual Guide is called the ‘root of the path’ because all other spiritual realizations of Sutra and Tantra depend upon it. The many branches and fruits of our Dharma practice are sustained and nourished by the root of reliance upon our Spiritual Guide. Just as in our ordinary education we need to rely upon the help of well-qualified teachers to guide us from the level of nursery school to the completion of college or university training, so in the spiritual training that leads to full enlightenment we need to rely upon a well-qualified Spiritual Guide. Such a deep root cannot be planted hastily. We need to become acquainted with someone who has all the qualifications of a Spiritual Guide, and gradually gain confidence through their teaching and example so that we can rely completely upon their guidance. Our relationship with our Spiritual Guide is the very source of all spiritual attainments, therefore we must be sure that he or she possesses all the necessary qualifications…” Geshe-la goes on to list the qualities that a fully qualified Mahayana Spiritual Guide should possess and the qualities that a Mahayana disciple should possess to enable the relationship to work well. I believe that Geshe-la would only want people to rely on him so as to grow their own wisdom to become their own Spiritual Guide eventually, with the ability to solve their own inner problems and to benefit others joyfully and effectively. As a student of Geshe-la, I have found that the encouragement is not to follow blindly, but to develop our own wisdom and discrimination. This would also go for taking vows and receiving empowerments. Spiritual commitments, like any important commitments in life, should surely be made with as good an intention and understanding of what you are doing as possible; not because someone else thinks it’s a good idea or you feel pressured into it - that never turns out well, does it? I think I remember in the programme there was some concern expressed about the teachings on the hell realms, but I think these are common to all forms of Buddhism - perhaps I am wrong? My understanding from Geshe-la’s books is that all the different realms of existence are mere appearance to mind, not separate from the mind perceiving them, so hellish or heavenly experiences are created with our own mind/actions; they are not given to us by some external entity as either a punishment or a reward, and they don’t exist inherently/without depending on the mind. According to the Madhyamika-Prasangika school (one of the four philosophical schools of Buddhism), nothing exists separate from the mind, not even Buddha. This is why Geshe-la says in the programme that if someone has a pure mind they may see him as a Buddha and that this will be beneficial for them. In my view, seeing someone as a Buddha and holding them as your Spiritual Guide is a really personal matter and not something to try and force upon anyone else. And, if one did catch oneself getting fanatical after receiving teachings or empowerment, and going back home and trying to convert everyone, Gen-la Khyenrab’s advice that he once gave in a teaching was just to: “Calm down… have a cup of tea.”

​@@catherinemitchell944 Geshela was just a Fraud & Conman.

Mia, Every story is important. Please DM Carol McQuire & Gabriella Markgraf.

Lauren sorry to hear your story, there a Face book group, called "Exposing the New Kadampa Tradition" also a video series by the same name on Spotify. People with similar stories to yours and may assist in your understanding.

Every story is important. Please DM Carol McQuire & Gabriella Markgraf.

They've got to ya, you've been brainwashed! Worse fucking religion of all time,it's fucking weird as.

NKT is a Con Scam you Cult. Just after your Money & Free Work, For Nothing Service. Watch "An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary, about this Cult.

This chick is just grandstanding she seems like a fraud she’s not saying anything with any value . She doesn’t know what she’s talking about ‘

*Also Search: NKT Cult & NKT SURVIVORS.*

You won't see the effect on your mind until you leave. Also the more you give to the cult the more dramatic the negative effect.

100%

*Search; Dr Michelle Haslam's Psychological Report On The NKT.*

*Search; NKT Cult.*

@@Hector-bfjIy5aiIrn hector. I'm a student at kadampa, NKT don't tell you what to do with your career family, Etc. This is a case of huge miss understanding of the teachings.

@niodaniel Keep studying, the so called teachings, all cults call there stuff teaching. Then move into the centre, then you will learn.

I’m sorry to hear that. Me too. I received the highest tantric yoga initiation in 2016 and developed schizophrenia.

Please Contact, 'Exposing The New Kadampa Tradition, Face book group'.

Every story is important. Please DM Carol McQuire & Gabriella Markgraf.

The NKT Cult will teach him a lesson, he's ex.

Contact, 'Exposing The New Kadampa Tradition, Face book group'.

Mia, Every story is important. Please DM Carol McQuire & Gabriella Markgraf.

@@miasmadmoments of course, it's karma, but NKT don't say, don't do anything with it. You need to react and you need to protect yourself so your understanding that because this Karma you should not do nothing is a very bad understanding of the teachings.

*Search; NKT Cult.*

NKT alert!!

YeaH sure they are the best and the richest budist

…well said…the NKT has been such a blessing in my life!

@robin.sihIp8mz …your statement makes zero sense…as far as your statement about it being a cult, that is just ridiculous…ANY religious environment that someone disagrees with could be labelled a cult by that person…the NKT is a fantastic group of dedicated individuals…I am truly blessed to be part of it!

People don't get involved in this Cult, or give them any money. Once you know it's a dangerous Recruitment Cult the NKT is a money grabbing scam and this shugden they worship a very evil ( Dolgyal ) being. Along with the so called Fraud, conman, expelled monk, fake Geshe geshela, kelsang gyatso they also worship, It's a racket. This NKT Recrutment Cult want's to scam you to move into a Cult centers to pay off for their property, real estate & get money out of you. Where you are then put work like a slave for nothing for them & you give this Cult all your savings, dole, housing benefits, MONEY, and TIME, FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN RETURN - But False Promises. Don't Ruin your life. Please Keep Well Away From This Brainwashing, Exploitative, Do as You Are Ordered, Mind Control, Recrutment Cult. KEEP WELL AWAY, FROM THIS CULT.

Watch; 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary about this NKT Cult.

Nope. Doesn't work like that.

100% agree! I've personally seen it. NKT is absolute RUBBISH!

Prior to telling people how to live there’s an absolute given that there is a right way and a wrong way, good and bad, acceptable and unacceptable. It’s pure duality. All religions are like this.

@@AlexRomero-mj5wi totally argee! 👌👍

Check out the BITE model. This identifies organizations that are about emotional, physical and psychological control. It doesn't always have to be a religion for it to be a cult.

We are not talking about all religion s, we are talking about a dangerous Cult called the NKT. Thousands have ended up with ruined lives or in a Psychiatric hospital because of this Cult over the many years. This New Kadampa Cult is not what it appears to be, AVOID.

'New Kadampa Tradition - NKT aka International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Very Dangerious Cult. Please Watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT also please read the comments.

The GP classes are good and one can gather some great stuff to incorporate into daily life. But if you ever decide to move up to foundation program or teacher training, don't ignore that inner voice that says "something about what he/she just said doesn't sound right," if it should ever arise. It's not self cherishing. It's not delusion. It's your own inner judgement looking after your best interest.

Robert Aspinall • You are also being conned and deceived. The nkt is also a Well Known Dangerious, Mind Control Cult. *Also Search: NKT Cult.*

​@@Xenophanes198 People don't get involved in this NKT RECRUITMENT Cult, or give them any money. Once you know it's a dangerous Recruitment Cult. The NKT is a money grabbing scam and this shugden they worship a very evil ( Dolgyal ) being. Along with the so called Fraud, conman, expelled monk, fake Geshe geshela, kelsang gyatso they also worship, It's a racket. This NKT Recrutment Cult want's to scam you to move into a Cult centers to pay off for their property, real estate & get money out of you. Where you are then put work like a slave for nothing for them & you give this Cult all your savings, dole, housing benefits, MONEY, and TIME, FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN RETURN - But False Promises. Don't Ruin your life. Please Keep Well Away From This Brainwashing, Exploitative, Do as You Are Ordered, Mind Control, Recrutment Cult. KEEP WELL AWAY, FROM THIS CULT.

Thank you for this,I was in Glasgow Kadampa just the other day and had a beautiful experience 🙏💖💙

Yeah I have never seen anything like that.

Same here. 18 years in and nothing culty. Not perfect, but that's people. Kind, reasonable, supportive people.

'New Kadampa Tradition - NKT aka International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Very Dangerious Cult. Please Watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT on many sites across the web.

Totally agree…I find it so dramatic that I have just stopped listening to her…I have NEVER experienced anything like she says and likewise if I did or witnessed anything I would be calling it out…I do find it interesting that she admits to suffering from depression before she even went to live in a centre, there was mental health issues she was addressing it seems…hence her experiences…

It doesn’t mean there is non trauma it’s actually not normal that there is so many people unhappy with this culte I am my self a shugden practitioner and believe me new Kadampa are not Representing shugden did you know that they are even criticizing shugden masters ? Did you know that ? In Tibet you need at lease more than 10years of study to teach darma how come in new kadampa just in few weeks or months someone can gave teaching ?? Did you also know that Kelsang is actually already past way since more than 5 years now ? Don’t you wonder why non one see him ? Anyway I hope you open your eyes one day

Hi Maria. Are you aware that putting quotation marks around the word trauma makes it appear that you are denying that anyone has experienced anything traumatic within the NKT? Those of us who have been harmed find it very invalidating

'New Kadampa Tradition aka NKT / International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Seriously Dangerious Cult. Please watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT also please read all the comments.

I’m with you, Maria. I’ve been studying NKT texts for a good while now. I haven’t witnessed any trauma or experienced it. I think maybe it comes down to whether one has clear understandings of the teachings or not. Like they say…”don’t take my word for it, go find out for yourself.” In my experience, it is a pure and clean teaching of how to understand the mind. It’s very helpful on how to study oneself and improve your own life for the better. I’m truly grateful to have a local center with good people and clear teachings.

*Please Don't Go To This NKT Cult. Don't worship shugden or geshela & don't join or give them any money or your time, it will ruin your life.*

Hi there. If you'd like to talk to me directly you're welcome to do so. Have you seen the screenshots of the defamation website written about me by senior NKT? If so please can you explain why you think I'm exaggerating? I've received legal threats, cyber bullying via character assassinating me as mentally unstable to discredit me. As have many other testimony writers. No one forces people to join, its a myth that this is a characteristic of a cult. You are recruited by clever advertising and claims that your mental health will improve, then told that if you stop practicing your delusions will get worse. So it's all psychological, people are rarely held captive in cults

_"For instance, the notion of "guru devotion" is traditional (cross traditions) and is not a problem per se..."_ - I wonder if guru devotion actually IS a problem, regardless of the culture or tradition it's very often found in. I would imagine that highly useful practices can just as effectively be imparted from a teacher to a student WITHOUT any "devotion" being required as a necessary prerequisite. I've been on the path for decades now, and if I come across a teacher who requires "devotion" from me (rather than a healthy amount of respect/decency/a sincere attitude/gratitude) then I'd run a mile. Devotion is SO easily used to manipulate, and doesn't appear to be AT ALL necessary in order to transmit wisdom.

@@andthereisntone3454 It is good to run a mile away in case a teacher requires devotion. Useful practices don't require there being devotion to be effectively imparted from a teacher to a student. I didn't say otherwise.

@@ffederel _"For instance, the notion of "guru devotion" is traditional (cross traditions) and is not a problem per se"_ - Hi. My point is that perhaps guru devotion IS a problem, per se.

@@andthereisntone3454 I understood that much. My point was that guru devotion as you describe it might very well be a problem per se.

@@ffederel Okay :)

Hi SC. It's deflection to state that all organisations have some problems. Have you read all the testimonies? Did you listen to the part in the video where I explain that they came after my job in order to attempt to discredit me? Are you aware that the senior management send threats to people to silence whistle-blowers?

@@recoveryfromthenewkadampat3445 Hi. Thanks for doing this. I was sincerely thinking of volunteering long-term at their HQ in the NE of England. Your testimony, and that of others I've read in the past two days, has really opened my eyes. Did you stay there? It looks so beautiful and peaceful. Damn shame it's a cult.

@@andthereisntone3454 Hi there thanks for your message. I didn't live at Manjushri but went to a couple of gatherings there. Yes, it is beautiful, and that sadly means that we develop blind spots and can't see what is really happening. Although the exclusive sale of Kelsang Gyatsos books, sale of statues of himself and the high prices are red flags for a lot of people

Yes you also go around all over RU-vid using different names, with your crooked Nkt colleagues saying you've been in the Nkt for 28, 23, 16, 8, years etc in order to deceive people that the Nkt's good & reliable, The best thing since sliced bread. Commenting & Gaslighting us that we are mistaken, self deceived & wrong. But were not wrong, we're RIGHT the Nkt is a Big Scam, a Racket & a Big Deceitful WRONG a CON, a Load of RUBBISH, just like you - SC..

23 years waisted.

Buddhist Beast and that is the tribalistic nature of religion and is one of the nasties that I was talking about.

Buddhist Beast I was raised in a fundamentalist Buddhist cult for over 20 years. I think I’ve seen enough.

Buddhist Beast I hope to start a RU-vid channel soon where I expose that organization (Dhamakaya) as a cult, by doing responses to their propaganda videos and stuff. Going back to what I said earlier I feel that the western version of Buddhism is more philosophical which is what I meant when I said that Buddhism as a philosophy, is fine as it mostly just focuses on the philosophical aspect and not the religious practice. In asian cultures where Buddhism is practiced as a religion, at its best its superstitious pseudoscientific wo, at its worst it’s a fundamentalist cult like Dhamakaya and all the nasties of the Abrahamic religions but with a different branding. This is why I’m an anti theist.

Buddhist Beast I say most are more polytheistic. I personally don’t care what anyone believes, I care more about what they do with that believe. If you decide to be Buddhist, Christian, Muslim, etc fine as long as you don’t violate anyone’s rights I’ll leave you alone. However, I feel Dhamakaya is a cult and most Thai people are forbidden from speaking out against them as they are a Buddhist organization and to speak ill of Buddhism is considered a sin, and most westerners don’t know about them and are therefore easy prey. Also, they like to mask themselves as a meditation center.

No that's not correct.

Hi Judy, is that a question that you'd like me to answer? Are you actually curious or just suggesting I'm stupid?

You trusted your intuition :)

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I've been to classes with this group on and off for years and I've had the same feeling but I can't quite put my finger on why.

I had a close friend from my center who gave up a 65k a year job to work and live at a center making a few hundred dollar stipend a month. Before she left she actually said "am I being brainwashed" as a joke. But I immediately picked up that it wasn't a joke. She was truly concerned and I believe it was the teachings on "self cherishing" that made her go.

Everyone that I knew at my center that was a regular found the NKT while they were at a very vulnerable period in their life. The same was true for me.

"The teachings are used to get you to doubt your own perception, your own intuition, your own reality." 100% correct. I had doubts and red flags repeatedly during my time there but had been brainwashed to think that these were just "delusions." Anyone can be vulnerable to this kind of mind control. My center had doctors, nurses, mental health professionals, business men & women, etc. Very intelligent people.

At the festivals they always read off an "email" from Kelsang Gyatso. They always say that he's alive and well and preserving his energy to write. You'd think in the age of technology they'd be able to record him giving a message. But it's always an "email." I personally think he's dead.

'New Kadampa Tradition - NKT aka International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Very Dangerious Cult. Please Watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT on many sites across the web.

Hello Gail, how are you, are you okay?

Buddhist Beast Spot on. It attracts spiritual narcissists, some benign, some not so much.

*Watch: "What the New Kadampa Tradition Teachers Monks and Nuns Do and don't want you to see close up".* *Then Read.* *Reuters News, Search: "China co opts a Buddhist sect in global effort to smear Dalai Lama".*

Hi there. I'm still battling with the indoctrination at times, for example, when they call me mentally unstable or spiritually inadequate due to having anger, sometimes for a few seconds I believe them. Society really doesn't like an angry woman so I'm fighting against all kinds of misogynistic judgements that I must have subconsciously held myself pre cult. Hope you're doing well these days. Teaching mindfulness to children smacks of teaching them compliance to me. I think it also reinforces the idea that anger is a 'bad' emotion. I think children need more outdoor play time and ways to release tension.

Thousands have ended up with ruined lives or in a Psychiatric hospital because of this Cult over the many years. This New Kadampa RECRUITMENT Cult is not what it appears to be, AVOID.

Yes, the NKT is highly controversial, and I would stay clear of the organization. There are many attendees at the centers who don't realize what the organization is "under the surface." They gained a lot of insights and a better life from following basic Buddhist teachings. Also, Kelsang Gyatso's teachings on emptiness are indeed unparalleled (best out there). Nothing wrong with his general Buddhist teachings. I do think Tibetan Buddhism has a tendency towards cult-like status because of guru worship. You can find a lot of unwholesome things in all organized religions. I wouldn't say that all religious organizations are cults, but all have the tendency. Peace.

People don't get involved in this NKT RECRUITMENT Cult, or give them any money. Once you know it's a dangerous Recruitment Cult. The NKT is a money grabbing scam and this shugden they worship a very evil ( Dolgyal ) being. Along with the so called Fraud, conman, expelled monk, fake Geshe geshela, kelsang gyatso they also worship, It's a racket. This NKT Recrutment Cult want's to scam you to move into a Cult centers to pay off for their property, real estate & get money out of you. Where you are then put work like a slave for nothing for them & you give this Cult all your savings, dole, housing benefits, MONEY, and TIME, FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN RETURN - But False Promises. Don't Ruin your life. PLEASE KEEP WELL AWAY FROM This Brainwashing, Exploitative, Do as You Are Ordered, Mind Control, NKT RECRUITMENT CULT.

Watch: 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary, about this New KT and it's Cult leader. This BBC TV documentary Clearly explains the New KT founded by kelsang gyatso in 1991 is a very dangerous Cult.

They don’t threaten to kill you, they just practic

They just practice shunning which leads to many suicides. This is a continued comment

Susan Brewer I agree with your comment, but tongue in cheek would add the caveat that the GB seem to be longing to personally participate in the killing of billions of people, including all of us, at Armageddon after going to heaven. So in a way that is exactly what they are threatening us with! It’s disturbing that anyone would agree to be part of that, even in exchange for everlasting life.

@@boboak9168 I hear ya brother Oak😂👍

Thanks for your kind comment Danielle

NOTHING WRONG WITH NKT. THE GOVERNMENT IS WORSE.

@@garethgareth8699 well that's not a resounding endorsement

@@dianaross2070 Resounding. I think that means a compliment! Thanks to you too!

​@@garethgareth8699 There's A Lot Wrong With The NKT, Watch: 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary, about this Cult leader & the Nkt.

From my OWN EXPERIENCE the NKT is just an Abusive, Slave labour, Recruitment Cult. kelsang gyatso, geshela was a Fake, Fraud, Conman, Manipulator. shugden an Evil being. You shouldn't worship geshela or shugden. NKT is just after your Money, Time, Control & Free Work for Nothing Service. Dont waist your time & energy in this Mind Control Recruitment Cult. KEEP WELL AWAY - AVOID.

Watch: 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary, about this New KT and it's Cult leader. This BBC TV documentary Clearly explains the New KT founded by kelsang gyatso in 1991 is a very dangerous Cult.

Watch: 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary, about this New KT and it's Cult leader. This BBC TV documentary Clearly explains the New KT founded by kelsang gyatso in 1991 is a very dangerous Cult.

*Search; NKT Cult.*

People don't get involved in this NKT RECRUITMENT Cult, or give them any money. Once you know it's a dangerous Recruitment Cult. The NKT is a money grabbing scam and this shugden they worship a very evil ( Dolgyal ) being. Along with the so called Fraud, conman, expelled monk, fake Geshe geshela, kelsang gyatso they also worship, It's a racket. This NKT Recrutment Cult want's to scam you to move into a Cult centers to pay off for their property, real estate & get money out of you. Where you are then put work like a slave for nothing for them & you give this Cult all your savings, dole, housing benefits, MONEY, and TIME, FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN RETURN - But False Promises. Don't Ruin your life. PLEASE KEEP WELL AWAY FROM This Brainwashing, Exploitative, Do as You Are Ordered, Mind Control, NKT RECRUITMENT CULT.

What is gaslighting?

Kenny Shortcake - Gaslighting is where some1 says something then when you say you said such and such they say no I didn’t and you feel like you’re going mad! Taken from the old B&W film called Gaslight years ago

Un Plugged thanks

People misuse Karma to victim blame because they don't understand Karma. Karma is neutral. You have to study it to understand. Every religion has there faults and have fanatics or extremists or so call false prophets. The Dalai lama is not who you think he is but there are many true practitioners.

@@l.c.3150 Are you into NKT?

Thanks Emmaline. It certainly does make you feel crazy. I've seen lots of evidence now that severe gaslighting occurs in most groups that call themselves Buddhist.

Dr Haslam Phd. is not talking about Any Christian Churches. She's talking specifically about the Well Known Cult called; The NKT/ New Kadampa Tradition aka International Kadampa Buddhist Union / IKBU. Which is An Extremely Well Known and Very Dangerious & Exploitative Cult. Don't take the topic, talk away from the NKT and misrepresent things. PEOPLE BEWARE.

I'm not sure if religious practices cannot be helpful in addressing mental health issues. Loving Kindness meditation for example? Simple things and no pressure. Might be good as addition to any psychiatric treatment.

@@ossian108 it may be helpful in coping if used in the correct way, but belief in a magic guy in the sky won't deal with an imbalance of chemicals in your brain

I've been to the classes with this same tradition on and off for years in the uk. I haven't been for a few years but I was thinking of going back. Can you tell me what happened to make you feel this way? The reason I ask is. there's been a few occasions where I've had an odd feeling about things but I can't quite put my finger on it.

​@@emmawelsh5336 Watch: 'An Unholy Row' BBC Documentary, about this New KT and it's Cult leader. This BBC TV documentary Clearly explains the New KT founded by kelsang gyatso in 1991 is a very dangerous Cult.

You're very welcome

You are not a Buddhist, they only want Buddhists not people looking for cheap rent. That is the reason for attending classes.

I have been a stundent and a Buddhist parctitioner for 30 years now, attending NKT Centers all around the world but I'm Mexican and I live in Mexico and I have never ever seen what you are describing, how is that possible? All the people I have ever known within that organization have proven to be outstanding, and I'm so very grateful that I have the mental freedom to take advantage of the resources they offer, I can tell you for certain that the NKT IS NOT A CULT AT ALL. Many Blessings!

*Search; NKT Cult.*

It's a very one sided interview where he takes everything she says on face value. When accused of things like this there's really no recourse to defend yourself because people say, 'well they would say that'. She's misinterpreted everything she heard but that's clearly not something she's open to hearing. I've been impressed by the Kadampas on here who have responded reasonably without getting upset at her attacking something they personally know to be profoundly beneficial and people they know first hand to be good.

She may have a psychological issue herself. She was depressed when she came. It's clearly in her interest to degrade these religions too, because it helps her business of clinical psychology.

'New Kadampa Tradition - NKT aka International Kadampa Buddhist Union, IKBU' BE WARNED - A Very Dangerious Cult. Please Watch: *"An Unholy Row" BBC Documentary* about this Cult leader & the NKT on many sites across the web.

Stop the victim blaming please

Thanks Elise that's kind of you. The issue is that I was a temporary contractor, meaning I had fewer rights compared to a permanent member of staff. Also because the aim of the attack is to destablise you so that you react and do something that they can then use to character assassinate you further.

Thanks for your comment Alex, I agree it should be shut down for safeguarding reasons. Sadly getting the charity commission to investigate is very difficult. I hope you've found your freedom and have a good support network these days.

I was fortunate enough to find Tony Parsons, and the non dual communication, at which point the whole nonsense of religion, gurus and teachings was seen through for the madness that it is. Anyone reading this can find many of Tony’s recorded meetings on RU-vid. Google Tony Parsons non-duality. Best wishes everyone.

Why were you asked to leave? Interesting that you miss that piece out…you don’t get asked to leave for nothing…always two sides to every coin!…

Thousands have ended up with Ruined lives or in a Psychiatric hospital because of this Cult over the many years. This New Kadampa Cult is not what it appears to be, AVOID.

*Search, NKT Cult.*