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The was a wonderful show! I love how each guest explained the REAL conflict: the conflict of not being able to distinguish cultures because Belize is really a beautiful blend and all lines are too blurred to separate one another. Long live Belize- May the rest of the world realize there is only one race: THE HUMAN RACE 💕🇧🇿💕🇧🇿
My mom told me Creoles called Garifunas ugly smh guess because we are not as mixed looking as they are...sounds similar to how it is with in America with the mixed and lighter skin and dark skin blacks...I'm proud of my Garifuna culture ❤❤ Dangriga is the culture capital of Belize for a reason and I am very proud to br Garifuna 😊😁
@@flipsidenation7679 Not something to be proud of because that lighter shade come form having more European blood which came from having a lot of women raped - of course not all the mixing was from race but a lot of it was, enough for me to cringe that this is something to consider as a reason to look down on someone who has less European blood.
Lies not all garifuna is dark my grandmother was fear skinned with gray eyes her husband was very dark with curly hair some of her children came with a mixture of her and some dark as their dad but very beautiful one November my mom went to work in her cultural wear one of her co workers were shocked he said I didn't know you where garifuna you have straight nose and lips that aren't to big. If a garifuna and a creol would sit beside each other you would not know the difference. I am a proud garifuna woman who is married to a creol man.
Your gorgeous sis believe me, we Garifunas though we are a mixture of two seperate groups. We come in different hues and shades. Nevertheless we are a beautiful, hardworking and humble group of people. This is coming from a Garifuna brother out of Brooklyn N.Y. by way of Guatemala.
@@hermanlane9846 I get what you tryna say but not everybody with lighter shade is a product of rape ,not all Africans that were bought on slave ships all had very dark skin like you think they did. Look at the Igbos in Nigeria they look lighter shade with no mixture and ironically most Belizean Creoles are descendents of Igbos. Some mixing did happen but many times you can tell by someones hair texture and phenotype if they are products of raping from slavery.
IN Jamaica, we have being told that Out of Many, One People. (we have our issues across colorism lines) but maybe Belize needs to push a similar campaign. Jamaican's no matter their ethnic/racial background are always noting that they are Jamaican first. Maybe Belizeans need a Belize first campaign. It won't solve all their problems overnight but the focus will put more emphasis on similarity than difference.
Jamaican 'Out of Many one' was a colonial tool to keep the minority non-Africans in power. Over 90 per cent of Jamaicans are African, and look like Africans in West Africa, so how can they be out of many one?
"0ut of many one people "is for the majority Africans, the mullatos half African, half British, the Indian people from India and the Chinese people and the 2% Europeans.
"There is only one race; a human race" is a definite silencing of the actual real racism which lives here in Belize? "Melting Pot" is another glossing over term. Y'all should not have done this. This is bad.
You (like most of us) have been conditioned to believe the lie of "race", rather then the truth of ethnicity. There is only one race, but that doesn't end the need to take action and fight against discrimination based upon skin color or culture (ethnicity). It's no coincidence that those Europeans that invented the pseudo-science of race during the Renaissance period ranked themselves at the top to be more superior than all others. Who would want to promote that understanding of identity, unless they feel superior? Skin color, hair texture, lip and nose shape change from mother to son, so "race" which is based upon skin-color and self-identity is actually very non-science based. It's pure trash so let's stop brainwashing our own kids.
@@djkobafemi i don't have children. i have taught many children over the years and do remember how it was growing up in Belize. Children can handle and prefer honesty. Why not be real? Of course white philosophers invented racialisation and superiority/inferiority during the Enlightenment period, not the renaissance, to justify the transAtlantic Slave trade. but yeah. Honesty is always a good policy.
Disappointing discourse about a serious issue. The discussion ought to have been more focused. Guests seemed not well prepared to adequately discuss the history and dynamics of what has led to the current situation.
Nah... As someone from outside of Belize, this was a very interesting convo for me. Especially not knowing how diverse Belize is and not being aware of some of it's cultural challenges. Not every sociological discourse online will be at a masters degree level. The guests here seemed educated and well-informed.
Someone has to tell that to most of the so called creoles here in Honduras ( Guanaja, Roatan and utila islands) this peolpe have a dislike and hatred against garifunas and only God knows why , it's ridiculous . I hope one day the Lord in his mercy will open their eyes and show them that we are all one people , different shades , languages ect, but in the end one peolpe
Creoles in Honduras are mostly indigenous European blood.Original Europeas were "black" people.Garifuna are indigenous to the Americas.They've been enemies for generations.One is from across the water and one from here.Culture clash
Reference to why Garinagu are called 36 is not because of given 36 hours to work rather it was in reference to 36-mile limit to travel from Dangriga towards Belize City. Also, Garinagu were exiled by the British from their homeland because of its riches, they did not flee from Saint Vincent because of prosecution.
Hi there, I am a proud "Carib" girl living in Canada. My father is a "Black Carib" from st Vincent and the Grenadines. he has always explained to me my background without going into terminology. I think we as a nation should step up and come to terms as what a garifuna is. I do plan on doing much research into my knowing my roots. I guess I will start with a trip to Belize. From what I understood, he Would always say: that "my ancestors were kings and queens and his people would capture the women" this is why I am good looking and have beautiful hair....I have never wanted to be light skinned and I never was racist. And I was also called a "OREO" for my good behaviour. We just have class and good DNA. 😉
Guiou means a black person that is not garifuna. It is not a course!! Mixed people from white and black is called muladu. Diversity is the key word to start creating a national identity.
As a white American living in Belize, it's important to learn the origins and relationships of the various cultural identities there so I can understand how things came to be the way they are and be a productive citizen of my adopted land. I love the land, the people and the way of life here and am trying to replace my NY accent with a Caribbean one.
Divide and conquer - time to support the dismantling of the last empire. I love to learn about different ethnic groups and their histories like the Garifuna (from St. Vincent and their movement throughout Central America), the Maroons (in Jamaica), and the Gullah (in the U.S. Carolina islands) because they are part of the diaspora,. I don't care how much percentage "black" you have in you. To me you are part of the Diaspora which is a fascinating. Hate to say it but anyone in Belize that is breeding a next generation is only leaving behind a slave population for the rising Chinese hegemony.
Sad that Belizean Garifuna just don't stand up and tell the real history, all Belize Garifuna descend from refugees from the wars in Honduras and Guatemala. All the old people could tell you the real history. I heard it myself in the 80s
@@gahfu not sure why you would respond to a 3 yr old comment now. But please refute my statement with facts. 3 of my four grandparents who lived in Stann Creek district Belize were born in Honduras, respectively born in 1910, 1916 and 1923. They all said they came escaping war in Honduras. Theyre story was repeated by many other older people in Dangriga and Hopkins. Please refute their testimony with facts.
@@jasone6576 refugees is the wrong word that’s it. Garinagu were looking for opportunities to expand their horizons, they were good at contraband among these 3 territories now nations
@@gahfu Understood. And I do agree that they were good at smuggling. My great-grandfathers, Francisco Thomas(Miskito from Colon, Honduras) and Marcos Eligio/Elijio (Veracruz Mexico but married Garifuna from Santa Fe, Honduras)were both sailor/smugglers who brought their children to Belize during the many insurrections and wars in Honduras. Since Belize was British at the time it was not under the influence of the corrupt Central American governments and the power of the United Fruit Company which dominated the North Coast and Puerto Barrios in those days. My original statement was made because so many younger Belizean Garifuna believe that they came to Belize directly from St. Vincent, which is not true. This is rewriting of history for political purposes.
What about the Toltecs and Moltecs ? Belize is super interesting country, I remember the craziest bus ride from Belmopan to Dangriga, I went thier specifically to find out about the foklore mix of Maya & Garafuna, but was unprepared, I stayed in the only accomodation available drank some petrol accidently mixed with some garafuna herbal tonic. I survived Belize co'z everypone i met had such big hearts and amaizing stories, Shout to the world "Mouthy" from Cay Cualker, & long live the "Prince of Belize"
I didn't get his point about being black and not speaking an African language. Am I missing something because of the way he is using the word "black". There are black people all over Central, South America and North America and not many of us speak an African language unles they are a recent African immigrant and yet we identify as black.
Wow, I'm fro a Jamaican background and I didn't realize that the term "coolie" was such a bad slur in other parts of the Caribbean. I know in Africa it was used as a slur but in Jamaica it was not used in such a pejorative way. Good to know so that I never use that word again.
I’m from Panama and my great grandparents went to Panama to work on the canal. The Asians and East Asians would be summoned to bring water to the workers by “coolie” ( cool me down)
Good Morning. I would more considered the boil up than thr rice and beans since it's only two ingredients. Belize on a whole, filling out a form, there's a complicated aspect in describing who you are. Are we Latinos, Caribbean, afro Caribbean, central Americans or what, so, just what is our identity??
I went to school in Stann Creek and as a child I had friends that I went to school and played with. It's only my opinion but I think that what truly offended the Caribbean was not really calling them kerubs, it was adding that stigma "BEE" on to it. Forget Africa, I've witnessed Belizeans who will not admit that they're of Belizean descendants or extraction. This racial device have always been there in Belize were a barker skin black was more like to be unemployment unless they would work under some pseudonym. A cousin of mine back in the days us
When my dad visited Belize for the first time to see family him and my mom went into a store noticed an asian woman behind. the counter speaking broad creole and then a child come from the back saying "mami i de hungrey!" Thew him off for a sec.
The garifuna the so call Creole are not they all blacks?come on all you black people. What is a creole any way? At first it was supposed to be the descendants of Europeans born in the new World when did some black people adopted it.
Our people for the lack of knowledge I think the government allow too many people to come in and just use the country to their advantage so, everyone becomes part owner. Need to start the change with the children.
Why they saying calling a garifuna a cribs is disrespectful however Phillip flores a historian saids that garifuna are cribs and he lives on the island today?...
Isn’t crib a short term for the Caribbean homes of the people? I really hope that people will unite and release negativity. Bad people do bad things it doesn’t matter where they are from or what language they speak. I travelled to Belize and Honduras and loved both places and the people! I would choose to live there over Canadian soil as our lands dealing with extreme racism and genocide as equal to what the past of your country is talking about. White colonial infiltration and oppressive white Crimes are still happening. The rise of colour people and tribes all over the world are speaking up about human rights and traditions and having their heritage restored.
Black, afro creole , carifuna , cerob bullshit we are all African decent. No black , afro, Creole, carifuna cerob and what ever. We are all African decent.!
GARIFUNA TRIBES are Benin people of Ñigeria they left Benin kingdom in 1440=1473during a strong forbidden traditional law by king Ewuare the great some of them are in Ghana Call GA TRiBE and some in HONDURAS Call GARIFUNA TRIBES in BELIZEAN may God bless them amen
U kno da prob is ethnicities but u goin dwn da sabotage-slippery slope by cont 2 say ‘race’ ! N u pan-afri! U don kno da tru history? Ur indigenous heritage maks u da land owner! Confused bout ur ethnicity=loss o owmrshp 🌸
