Current meta is miserable for Sadako... 😰 | Dead by Daylight 

If you play Sadako, what do you find most infuriating to go against in your matches? Boons, exhaustion perks, map offerings, medkits...?

I think this game really lost something when chasing people with a chainsaw became more stressful than being chased by someone with a chainsaw.

"I'm not cheating. I just happened to go out of my way to change this obscure thing outside the game to gain an advantage in game. But I didn't download anything. Oh and ignore the VAC ban I received for cheating." Cheater mental gymnastics right here. Sad.

I feel like Sadako should be able to intsadown anyone with a full tape meter since it would match her lore better and gives a true punishment for not getting rid of the tapes

i feel like over time plague becomes better and better just due to her being able to counter the circle of healing meta

"Current meta is miserable for X" is a working title for almost everything right now lol. Looking forward to the next big patch!

I was having so much fun with this killer when she came out, thought she’d be my new main and I’d get to complete the rift but playing her against competent survivors and subtle cheaters makes me want to take a walk

Good lord. The cheater admitting it at the end just like "yeah I'm a dirtbag" really pisses me off. That's not cute or quirky, you're just a gross cheater.

"they don't have a cheating program, but they edited the config file to see red stain perfectly through walls"..... So basically cheating just like stretch res.... Gotcha

"no I didn't cheat, I just edited the config file" that's cheating dude

I feel for you, last night as I was learning her survivors sent me to Gideon meat plant. I felt frustrated but I remembered your strat of picking two people and just targeting one another to get them out relatively quickly and i ended up winning! It’s just hard playing killer when you can have a team that want to make the killers life miserable.

One of my early Sadako games, I got a 4 stack who brought a Game offering and boons (loads of pallets, boons get double coverage because of the 2 floors). One had all 4 boon perks, and the other 3 had flashlights, ds, dead hard, etc. (and one other had circle of healing and shadow step to cover if the other one goes down or can’t keep her boon up). Just about every hook required me to down the survivor at least 2 or 3 times because every down had 3 possible outcomes: 1.) I pick up and they get a flashlight save (unless I get lucky and they mess up, which was not likely) 2.) I try to push away the flashlights, in which case the survivor picks themself up with Exponential. 3.) I remove the boon, which even though I knew where they were putting it took long enough that the survivor is back up thanks to having at least one teammate nearby to pick up with Circle of Healing. Needless to say, they were teabagging, clicking, etc. to brag about giving themselves every possible advantage. What fun.

The match at 14:30 kind of exemplifies how I feel about playing killer in the current meta - lower tier killers don't win matches, survivors lose them. Against 4 GOOD survivors with strong builds, solo queue or SWF doesn't matter, you can play as efficiently as possible but lower tier killers feel absolutely powerless without survs misplaying a decent amount or sweating so hard your hair turns grey. So many of my survivor games now end up with 1-2 hooks by the time all 5 gens are done and it literally feels like I did nothing, casual game, but from the killer POV I know they have to be STRESSED. I don't even bother playing killer anymore with how bad it's gotten.

This shows how stressfull is to play killer, 0 mistakes allowed.

42:51 Thats not exploting, thats cheating. Its not 180 flicks with Oni or hugtech with Blight, its literally modifing the game files.

Games like these are what killed my motivation to keep playing. I just wanna play doctor and have a 400 meter terror radius, not sweat my heart out every game. Its more stressful than it is fun.

I still think map offerings shouldn't be in the game. Being able to force the opposing side to a map that benefits you is just stupid. It should be random for all, and if you happen to get a bad map for you, you at least know it's not the opposing side controlling it.

That seeming panic you have is exactly why i dont play this very often, soo god damn stressful. I feel like im the one being tortured by the entity.

Said this in all the videos . The kill streak videos are the best . When seeing a 45min-1h30min video . I get my dinner ready and watch it like a movie . Great entertainment! Thanks Otz for keeping the content coming ! Love from Cape Town, South Africa ! I edited and lost my like/heart from Otz :( but now hopefully he knows he has fans in South Africa too 😁

Sadako, like Freddy, demonstrates the difference between coordinated and uncoordinated survivors. She will werck your whole team when you are solo queue or just playing casually with friends, but against coordinated survivors that are just trying to win she stands no chance.

28:47 *and then a leatherface main was born*

Really putting the “sad” in Sadako 😔

Imagine losing on a gigantic map with 4 brand new parts while all running meta perks and body blocking against a non top tier killer. Crazy

His explanation of his experience is why I don't play the game anymore 😔

1st chase: over 3 gens: done Survivors: most affected

Maybe they should make it so that when you're demanifested you can do through walls and objects of sort? She just feels very weak otherwise

I can't believe that the vengeful ghost of a powerful psychic that can kill people by willing them dead is outclassed by a tour manager with a gear

Killer mains like myself simply don't enjoy the game anymore. In my last session I waited 40+ mins to get into a round only for RPD offerings, 3 people having toolboxes, one having a flashlight, all meta perks maxed out, and all Mikaelas. All gens were popped in 3 mins and 4 escapes. I got 1 hook.

One thing I haven’t seen many people talk about is the fact that survivors see a black circle around their character on the hud so they know as soon as they load in that it is a sadako which really hurts the first hit or two

If even for a titan of a killer player like Otz with 7k+ hours there a so much struggle, imagine what an average killer player (me included) must feel most of a time. This is ruthless bro.

If only Hawkins wasn't removed ;w; sadako would destroy on that map (I think)

I don't own Sadako, so I can't say for sure, but as a survivor, being inflicted with a pip of condemned after having at least one pip and are more than one away from being full seems to be exclusively beneficial to the survivors. It lets them know what TV she teleported to and lets them play around her power so much.

All my favorite killers to play are the C and D list ones so this is rough lmao

30:18 it is f*cking impossible that she saved her dead hard for so long and timed it so perfectly without a cheat...

As someone with pretty heavy anxiety, killer has become almost impossible to play without feeling miserable. I don’t see the fun in survivor, so I don’t want to play that either. The current meta is so fucking shit and favoring survivors that I think it’s just time for me to move on to a better game.

Honestly, this video pretty much showed why I haven't been playing killer much at all the past few months besides archive challenges. It just is not worth the stress and toxicity you get thrown at you for playing killer since gens fly by so quick unless you play in the most unfun way possible or survivors just make mistakes or play very relaxed/chill. Playing solo que survivor is way more fun/chill in comparison even if the matches don't go so well. Its probably at the worst it has ever been and has seriously made me consider just not playing killer anymore. Constantly running into the same survivor perks, constantly having survivors burn for the most survivor sided maps, etc. You actively get punished for playing anything other then the best killers and it just isn't fun anymore. Devs really need to come up with a way to shake the meta up for survivors without just introducing something busted like boons that require multiple nerfs until it becomes balanced again.

Editing the config file to see undetectable killers is cheating and should be banned.

the fact that the 50 wins series is a long time thing now I feel old

I swear I can't play a killer match without being anxious, as soon as I see those map offerings a panic attack sets in and makes me not want to play killer for the rest of the week.

The first game was suuper fun to watch (even though it didnt look fun to play😅). It was really cool to see you getting pretty much 100% out of what is for the most part just an m1 killer. And for what its worth: Things getting harder just makes the achievements greater 💪💪 (Would be nicer without so much cheating bs around tho ._.)

The current meta is miserable for all unless you're a god-nurse, a legend-blight or plague savant.

The fact one of the latest updates tp this game mentioned how they improved ways of finding players with altered config files... and NOW they have found a way to always see red stains through walls really tells me they haven't done anything at all to combat this cheater epidemic.

The fact you were able to secure a 4K in that 2nd match was just incredible. Big props to you my guy💪 love you’re content huge fan keep up the great work

14:03 the problem of dbd, its a minigame, lets imagine I get tunneled for no reason when gens aren't even flying, im inclined to run dead hard and a instaheal medkit. The next game i go against a chill billy or wraith, who get destroyed, they will play turbosweat blight / nurse, the survivors then go for brand new parts against for instance otz here.

Adding the perk timers to your vids has been really great, appreciate it

i’m getting stressed out just watching this

Sadako's an M1 killer with absolutely nothing in chase. Nothing whatsoever. "She's short and the manifesting/invis can help you mindgame-" nope. It's like Artist, the second you start doing that, they just leave the loop and hold W and then you're only mindgaming yourself. It's pure fucking misery to play her. Why would I ever want to inflict that on myself, when I can just play Blight? Use whatever perks I want, be effective on every map, and actually have some measure of control over the game? Why should I play her? No point.

Yesterday, I had decided to play some Blight and just run some cool, fun perks because I didn't feel like running massive amounts of slowdown or anything. (For the match concerned, I was running Spirit Fury, Enduring, Floods of Rage, and I'm All Ears. Nothing amazing, just some cool perks that I enjoy.) I got Eyrie against a team with all the best perks and items (including 2 CoH, on Eyrie. Oof.) And only ended up getting 1 kill, which I don't entirely mind but it did definetly put a massive damper on my spirits. Instead, one of the guys who ESCAPED messaged me and tried to trash talk me, saying how bad I was. He was super mad about the way I "played" (returning to hooks when he just unhooked right next to me all the time.) I just kinda screwed around with him in PMs for a bit and left him, because I really couldn't be bothered with it. But I agree, the meta in this game is just miserable to face, not only on Sadako but anyone wanting to run more casual perks. It is just a miserable experience for everyone.

Last tier list video I commented about Sadako deserving to be on a higher tier... but now I agree with her being where she is. If the killer got no chase power then it's pretty hard for them to be on a good tier because of how survivors can bully you and just do gens while you waste time on a long chase. Still unfortunate since her design and gameplay are pretty awesome.

otz i think you are the best influence on this community i love you :)

I'm surprised you recovered from the first 2 matches, i would have cracked under the pressure.

This video is a pretty complete picture of the frustrations from killers about 1 year ago. I do have to say, it's actually fun to go through and see all the things they fixed (or at least neutralized) and thus are no longer problems anymore. Boon: Circle of Healing, Dead Hard, Spine Chill (almost forgot about that one!), and Medkits are examples; even Borrowed Time (being required) and Pain Res on Otz's side which were probably quite frustrating for the survivors. Now they just need to fix Toolboxes and Sadako herself and we can officially write this video off as a thing of the past! Still just think they should make it so she can go through pallets while demanafested and if she gets stunned (most likely by a pallet) she instantly manifests (with probably a longer stun), but honestly, like Otz says, any chase power will do; just give her *something*.

Some of the highest tension matches of DBD I've ever seen I hope they buff Sadako because I wanna get back into DBD and play her soon

I really felt this playing on Trickster today. Prestiged him a while back, and so I'm currently still rebuilding my perks on him. Had one kill going into gates powered and only got a 3K because of someone deciding to try and basement rescue after the gates were opened. Was running jolt, corrupt, starstruck, and no way out.

Large open maps with strong loops and boon areas, boons, and all the second chance perks make it a nightmare for sadako. That being said a good insta down perk with two gen regression/ protect and an info perk on indoor maps is a nightmare for survivors

I just started playing DBD last week because it was on sale for Switch and I really could not have started playing killer at a worse time :”) I won a few low ranked matches as Wraith but I keep seeing toolboxes and dead hards now

Since the ring is the series that got me into horror I've been maining sadoka since she came out. And the biggest thing for me that kills sadako is the fact the tvs stay off for way too long compared to what they actually do which means most of the time you are just a failed child of wraith and spirit. And while I believe sadako easily has one of the best mindgame potential of all killers her tvs long cooldown stop her from being played at her full potential as a hit and run killer.

I feel like this video perfectly encapsulates how if you aren't playing a top tier killer and running the best perks, you're basically asking to have a miserable match. It feels like creative and fun builds have gone out the window for both sides, because you're either griefing your teammates if you aren't running the best perks on survivor or are about to spend multiple minutes chasing one survivor while 3 gens pop if you pick something off-meta on killer. And that's not even touching on subtle cheaters, poor sportsmanship, etc. Honestly I'm think I'm done with dbd for a while until the game gets to a healthier place, games are meant to be fun and there are points playing dead by daylight where I'd literally rather be at work than playing some of the matches I get stuck in.

Haven't played DbDL since I subtle speed cheaters appeared. First one I ever noticed turned the shack into an infinite without using pallet or window. The speed increase was exactly enough to prevent me EVER catching them.

Thank you for putting this video out. Having grinded her out to P3 Lvl 50 with all her best rated perks I can very much relate to this. When I initially started with her and for a long time after I was getting 4ks back to back with her. Played her pretty fair against mixes of casual and experienced survivors. Chased survivors evenly and made good use of her map pressure and stealth. Probably got a 30 win streak or something ridiculous with usually an average of 2 very decent loopers per game. But even while I was dominating them at that level I could tell that once my MMR peaked with her, my games were going to become miserable. And then it happened... I started being paired with averages of 3-5k+ hours always running DH,DS,UB,BT across the team with the best items and the games became horrible sweat fests against perfect looping survivors and forcing me to play nasty. I endured... I remained commited to getting her to P3-50 with optimal perks. However almost every match from that point I felt forced to turn to a vicious return to hook & tunnel or MYC playstyle to even try balance the game in my favor. I really don't want to play like that and then have to explain myself in endgame chat when I get questioned WHY DID U TUNNEL ME BRO? My initial concerns around her at release were confirmed and my conclusion reached is that playing an M1 hit-and-run oriented killer with no chase power at high MMR is just simply not viable. Teleporting & stealth is mostly useless as everyone at that level knows the audio cues and grindy sounds when demanifested as she approaches. You don't even need spine chill at that stage to know shes coming. I wanted to prove myself wrong. That Dowsey was right in recognizing her A tier potential... But you can only endure so much miserable matches before accepting the facts. At high MMR you're probably better off playing trapper.... RIP Sadako. Was fun while it lasted sweetheart.

Not that it would fix the state of the game, but do you ever wonder how much of a less-stressful time killers would have if Dead Hard was removed from the game? I've seen that perk extend so many chases that I've lost count. It almost always adds at least an extra 20 seconds of chase time on average. In a game where every second counts, one good dead hard, or just being able to dead hard to the next pallet/window to extend the chase can be the difference between the killer maintaining some semblance of pressure, and losing the game outright and getting t-bagged at the exit. And then you get survs with inflated egos being toxic, thinking they're good at the game when they're being carried by meta perks like DH/DS/BT/Unbreakable. The 2nd chance perks have really cultivated a toxic/bullying atmosphere in the game and it's just sad to witness all the time, whether I'm playing or watching someone's stream.

editing config files to see red stains through walls . . . damn that is hella scummy

The problem is that every other stealth Killer either has a method of ending chases quickly or punishes Survivors for working on generators. Sadako just has map mobility and inconsistent stealth and thus gets absolutely destroyed when the survivors play smart and/or bring toolboxes.

4 toolboxes with prove thyself and 4 brand new parts and map offerings. All with dead hard These are the same survivors who complain about camping and tunneling lol That's miserable for everyone. Your team should be limited to one brand new part per team

I’ve been a killer main since I started playing in the flesh and mud update and when boons were announced I was skeptical but I trusted that the devs knew what they were doing and that changes to the meta and giving survivors more to do other than just gens would never be a bad thing. However playing red ranks against cheaters, swf teams and boons/dead hard on every survivor has made the current meta miserable as a killer main. I still get wins and 4ks but even the games that I win on burn me out and make me not wanna play another. I have always found DBD the most fun when I can play weird builds on my favourite killers such as pyramid head and pinhead. But i’m currently stuck at rank 1 where if I don’t play my nurse or blight gonna have a bad time and struggle to keep my MMR. So for the first time in years i’m maining survivor against try hard blights and nurses who I honestly feel bad for and respect when they proxy to confirm a kill.

I’ve been playing the game for a long time and I’ve played on both sides (around 1,500 hours) and I think that medkits, flashlights, and tool boxes are survivors iridescent add ons in a sense. They should definitely be nerfed but in the sense of making them much rarer in the blood web. Iridescents are meant to be powerful and sort of unfair on killer and if those exist survivors should have their equivalent.

I love the addition of the little DS timer in the corner, editor! Even if it doesn't get used, it's interesting to see how they play as their clocks runs out...

That first match is hands down one of the most exciting I have ever witnessed

It's a sad day when the survivor meta is so strong that even Otz, a man who goes out of his way to play well and fairly, is forced to camp and tunnel just to maintain momentum.

Very happy most of the community is coming around to how I’ve felt for months. Can only benefit us if we have the same message

Watching Otz take off his anime training weights made me so happy and the full focus otz was crazy to watch

seeing this is super reassuring tbh, sometimes i struggle so much when playing killer (i like playing sadako, twins, and trapper), and it just feels like the survivors i go against are just better than me, and thats fine, but it gets frustrating when its match after match. Its nice to hear from someone who is so experienced that you struggle too, and to know that hackers are becoming more common. Im bad at spotting subtle hackers, maybe u can make a video on how to spot them? :o

its so fun to see when Otz goes tryhard and do so well- Much love Otz

When one of the best DBD killer streamers had enough of the BS you find in this game, well that speaks for it self.

Play with your food and/or save the best for last have been working well for me, mainly STBFL. Play with your food for the chase and STBFL because it helps deal with body blocking which is something that Sadako really can't deal with. I've tried running the Make your Choice build and I've had more total headache than success. Sadly Sadako is a character that heavily relies on shareable perks at higher levels.

That moment at 1:11 that shows a map offering, dead hard, and a flashlight is basically the high mmr games lmao

Good grief they could see your red stain through walls!?! There no end to the things PC players will do to get an advantage and it's disgusting. I really wanna just turn cross play off and chill out in my PlayStation lobbies these days. It's already bad enough survivors stack all their second chance perks and play really well but it's always in the back of your mind that they can and probably are in fact cheating... These days I just go into every game expecting to lost and get tbags at the exit gate.

map offerings should be removed altogether imo, most of the item system should be changed actually. It is flawed from the very core

All i got to say is how in the hell are the sacrificial wards so hard to find but literally every blood web theres at least two or more map offerings to get. I wouldnt mind using a ward every time for my offering if i could just FIND them. And even when i do use em then someone decides to finally NOT send me somewhere it's just ridiculous

I haven't played dead by daylight for a while but have almost 1k hours so i don't thoroughly understand the new meta but I wonder whether the devs could make it that the survivors could only take 1 of a class of item (Item classes being Flahlights, Toolboxes, Medkits etc...) this means that the survivors can't take 4 toolboxes or 4 flashlights and could balance those prove thyself gen-rush builds whilst also keeping them as a viable tactic.

Man just watching these games are stressful. I wish they buff her basekit by turning on 1 tv when attacking a survivor when manifesting, like her red tape add-on. Adding yellow and green versions of this would be nice too. The whole condemned feature needs a buff too. I think tapes should be held items or make it take slightly longer to receive a tape

I faced a killer last night that was supposedly a "bot" program (or so it declared in the endgame chat) that was pretty clearly seeing me through walls and corn at great distances. It literally had a TTV username, and when I looked into it more, they also had a hack that insta kills everyone right once the final gen completes. They've been streaming these types of games for 4 days, 12 hour streams. If such blatant hackers aren't being stopped, then it feels like we have almost no protection against these people. It really disheartened me from playing, and it may lead to me taking a break from the game for a while.

Hey Otz, been playing lots of Sadako lately! My worst maps so far have been Dead Dawg and Lary’s, one map too small and open while other too big and enclosed which is kind of ironic when you say indoor maps are the best. Midwich and Ormond have been great for me. My build is ruin for the gen pressure, fearmonger to potentially block exhaustion perks and to keep people on their toes with blindness. Bitter murmur for information and noed for that cheeky endgame. I’ve been having so much fun playing Sadako and I’ve been told how spooky it is to play against her :) I like to demanifest at every chance I get during a chase to confuse my opponents. My preferred add-ons are the fingernail and well water for those super fast undetectable projections.

Otz, here are my rules for playing as Onyro: Onyro plays somewhere between wraith and hag. 1. Stay demanifested until you are ready to M1. Add a Distorted Photo to make survivors scream as you manifest (blocks the pallet stun for a second). 2. Become a teleporting fool, avoiding the in-chase except if you know the survivor is in that next television's range. I run the iri-tape add-on. My core build is: pop+jolt+call of brine. 4th perk alternates between blood warden or spies of the darkness (surprisingly good on her). My style: Teleport, start the chase for a hit within 8s, deman and drop chase, spies go off, teleport and get the surprise down hit.

From my experience I find that opening up with a hit and run playstyle then adjusting to the survivors play style is the best. For example, if there are two or more med kits then I know I can't abandon chases after a hit lightly. Circle of healing is variable depending on how many and how efficiently a team uses them. But if a team's healing is low then I can comfortably hit a person, break a pallet or two then be off to defend gens with a teleport. Repeat the process until chases become harder for survivors than you. Once the bulk of pallets are gone it dosent matter how good a survivor is if there's no resources around. So yeah, she is pretty slow burn in terms of reaching full efficiency. Compounded by the fact there are measures survivors can take to outpace her. Toolboxes, med kits spine chill, CoH. It isn't hard for survivors to hurt or overtake your building pressure.

You always amaze me how you can manage to turn around a game. I remember when i played killer i tried to dont get demotivated when loosing too many gens at first, because i can win it regardlous. But its hard. Every game it gets even harder.

I think Sadako's biggest weakness is that she absolutely needs Iri Videotape. Without it you'll teleport once or twice, survivors will turn off all your tvs and you're stuck without a power for the next 3 minutes

Remember how BHVR said that there are not enough killers for matchmaking compared to survivors, despite the fact that you only need a quarter as many killers? This is why.

I have approximately 1.5k hours on dbd. And my experience has been difficult. I'm a main killer, but I play as a survivor sometimes, and the situation for assassins has been sad, it's incredibly frustrating that you have to depend on how stupid the enemy team is so that you have any chance of winning the game every time. If I want to play with a specific killer, like Piggy or Legion, instead of having fun, I end leaving frustrated and angry, because I need to tryhard to get at least 2 kills. The survivor meta is annoying, and the meta assassins are borring for me. I don't see myself playing dbd as much as I used to, it's incredibly frustrating and irritating, and I believe that with the competition that will be coming, I hope BHVR starts to rethink their decisions regarding the game, it is not fair to killers, and also frustrating for survivors, in case the killers need to camp or tunnel to have any chance of victory. I still like dbd, but yeah thats it.

It`s really hard to win with M1 killers without antiloop power. :(

Honest question, what do you use in place of Dead hard that helps in chases against killers?

i love killers, i pour all my bloodpoints into killers but every time i open the menu i just feel dread. super stressfull games with flashlight spam and 0 mistakes allowed. being a killer shouldn't be scarier than being a survivor

Hopefully Sadako will get some buff and rework in the future, because despite her very fun power, she is nothing but weak.

What's funny is that blatant cheaters have now become less annoying than the subtle cheaters.

I'm wondering if a trapper style plan would work better for sadako. Find 3-4 gens to camp early and hold the line.

Holy moly that was close, intense and sweaty games. I would just gave up if I was in these situations

I almost went insane last night. I was in iridescent 4 with 4 points playing my main, Oni. Last 2 seasons I had no trouble reaching iridescent 1 with Oni when tryharding, but last night I could barely kill 1 survivor in 4 consecutive matches. I was playing so damn well but everytime I was sent either to Gideon Meat Plant or Badham Preschool. What saved me were the 800k bp which got me 14 offerings that counter map offerings and I ended up ranking up to iridescent 2. Ben playing for a year now and I swear that in my almost 20 matches I have played last night, there have been 5 games in which I couldn't hook more than twice in a game. I felt so useless after these games considering that I have 400+ hours on Oni. Moreover, I have counted how many people did not have dead hard and ds paired in the same game. In 18 games, only 3 of them didn't have them both, out of which only 1 didn't have either of them...

Hey Otz. Just wanted to leave a message saying thank you for all the content and that I am sorry you have to deal with this in a game you have devoted so much time to. I enjoyed watching your win streaks and I hope the devs fix the issues soon so maybe you can do them again in the future. Just wanted to leave a positive message for you seeing how much just these games had been stressing you.

23:08 the TV on the far left side of the screen just get turned off as you're moving, typically the kind of detail you always see when you watch a video but never would catch that on the very exact moment it happens

Honestly I had a lot of success playing as Sadako, I ran BBQ, Tinkerer, Her storm perk ( Can't remember the name) and NOED. I very rarely needed to use NOED and honestly swtched it out for other perks quite frequently. I know this is kind of a sweaty build but she can be strong. bbq to see where they are (Teleport to them) Tinkerer for no terror and invis is pretty OP. and if you get to the gen that popped tinkerer when they get it to 90% the storm perk pops when you scare them off of it.