Current state of Solo Survivor | Dead by Daylight 

Otz saying he wants to have a normal game while chat is saying that is a normal game is just gold

“NONONONONO WHAT ARE YOU DOING, SHE DOESNT HAVE FEELINGS; SHES A NURSE” is my new favorite otz quote

Now that they have implemented BT as base kit to prevent tunneling I have never been tunneled harder in my entire life

Me who has no friends: "I thought everyone was a solo survivor!"

I can say that, at least from killer perspective, the number of DC's and survivors just getting hit once and then just giving up has increased a lot since the update dropped.

The worst part is that I was playing a three stack yesterday and we still had solo teammates throwing at every opportunity they could get just to get out of games they didn't like. It doesn't matter if I'm the soloQ or if I'm playing with the soloQ, the games have been absolutely miserable this patch.

"She doesn't have feelings! She's playing Nurse!"

Solo has been a pain for me when playing. I haven't really used perks like Dead Hard & Decisive for a while even before the update, but the games definitely feel tougher regardless with the killer quicker action speeds & slower gen progress. You really need to be lucky that you get a team that can kill as much time as possible with the killer, otherwise they will end games with 3+ gens to spare assuming the team gets snowball'd.

"SHE DOESNT HAVE FEELINGS SHES PLAYING NURSE" LOL that had me cracking up because gawd damn is it true, every nurse plays with hate in their heart for every moment of pain they've endured at the hands of the survivors lmao. I'm sure the nurse mains are just eating up the salt spewing from all the Survivors about the state of the game rn.

Solo is indeed in a mess right now, it was rarely a great experience but I cant remember the last time it was this bad. So many Survivors throwing the match on the first Hook 3 Gens in. So many killing themselfs/afk/dc. You can literaly run Kindred + open hand and nobody moves. Running Bond or other Perks to show fellow surv auras is a nightmare to behold, self caring for half a gens worth rather than using a BCoH or Medkit. And even though the Point cap got raised, most of the time 2 people in the lobby fall below 10k. What did they do? Totems?

I have survivors giving up almost every. single. game. Happens so often I have started using Wake Up + Sole Survivor to guarantee an exit gate escape. If you have both these two perks I honestly think there is nothing the killer can do unless the exit gates spawn in eyesight of each other.

I had mixed results with my solo queue games. Sometimes I died, sometimes I found hatch. I don't remember a match where we got all 5 gens done. My killer matches felt like easy mode. I had to stop trying in order for the survivors to really accomplish very much.

After this patch 7/10 of my survivor games have been Nurse. At this point I expect a Nurse every game almost. Also using nearly the same exact build.

the only thing that this update did was make killer queues as long as survivor queues used to be

Honestly from killer perspective it's been feeling like we've returned to old DBD where everyone runs sprint burst and disconnects if they go down first

Maybe it's just me but I feel like tunneling got even worse after the update, killers who tunneled before the update now they have even easier time doing that

Devs: "Billy's Chainsaw is a bit overwhelming. So we're going to give him an overheat mechanic, and some useless addons." Billy Mains: "Aww man!" Devs: "Now we're looking at Nurse and..." Nurse Mains: "Oh god... what's happening. What's happening?!" Devs: "We've decided she needs range addons that also increase the speed of which she Blinks. This is intended and not a bug." Billy Mains: "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!"

DBD is a fun game! -As long as your teammates don't suck -As long as the killer isn't broken -As long as you don't get camped -As long as you don't get slugged -As long as you don't get tunneled -As long as you actually have fun somehow

Tbh this video hit hard. I’m a 50+ day (Xbox) survivor who plays solo. Even before the update, 1/3 of my games resulted in a teammate committing on hook or disconnecting; made only worse by the fact other survivors are more inclined on giving up once another leaves. I’m taking a break from the game after a few days of the update. Not because of gen speeds or perk nerfs, but because these unfortunate attitudes have only gotten worse. As a survivor you need to be content even when you lose; however, that is tremendously difficult when you’re at four generators left and two of your teammates have abandoned you.

The devs themselves have acknowledged that as the game evolves the solo queue experience has gotten worse. I have solo queued this game for years but I feel forced to take a break after this update, and until they make some changes that make playing less insufferable I don’t plan on coming back. Enough is enough.

The devs never consider those who solo queue. From the past MMR changes to the new update. Solo survivors typically find themselves matched with people who aren’t near their skill level or those who literally DC or kill themselves on hook after the first down.

Something I really like about the dbd community is that there’s always a conversation going on about how to make the game better. I always look on my feed to hear people talking about the next big thing they want for the game, and they give sound reasons for it

I returned to DbD after 6 months or so and I was having a lot of fun trying different builds. I don't mind dying if I have fun with the match but I started getting the same killers over and over again, not only with their buffs but with iri addons, and the same perks. This video has been my experience last 2 days and I haven't escaped even once, reason is I'm too altruistic, it seems the only way to escape is being selfish and let people die on hook while everyone else does gens. And I play killer too but I feel really bad when survivors start giving up and it's bitter winning like that. I think the update was necessary but it's not over yet, it needs more tweaking with some perks and killers (not all nerfs).

Currently in almost every match I either see Hex: Devour Hope or an Ebony Memento Mori. The amount of matches we as survivors lost bc Devour Hope had 3+ stacks and didnt manage to cleanse it bc it's hidden in the least propable spawnpoint is honestly worth the risk of getting Haunted Grounds by now.

I dunno man, if I'm solo Q and I'm facing a nurse with Lethal, Agi, Starstruck and IF, I don't think I would blame anybody for killing themselves on hook. This isn't THEIR fault, this is a symptom of BHVR ignoring the problem: it's absolutely miserable to play vs a nurse like that while slugged on the floor for 3 minutes straight until she has successfully downed everyone. I don't really think we should be blaming our teammates for wanting to leave ASAP, we should be blaming BHVR for letting this go on for so long, IMO

I've played about 30-ish solo games since the update and only escaped twice. Just over 1k hours in the game, I'm not terrible. The state of the game right now has made me given up playing. Little or no fun to be had in a sea of frustration and pain.

To be fair, solo queue was hit hard with this update. Your teammates may have just had a string of bad matches back-to-back. Since Knock-Out was buffed, Slugging has been far more common. Since Gen regression was buffed to high heaven and gens take longer to do, camping has become an even more viable strategy. That cute "5 seconds of BT" literally does nothing to dissuade tunneling, which has also gotten a lot worse especially since most Killers can easily eat that reduced 3 second stun and keep tunneling without any problem. A lot of solo queue perks (Namely Iron Will, Self-Care & Spine Chill) were butchered while the few "buffed" perks are still as useless or situational as they ever were before. Additionally, I've noticed a lot more nurse players since this update. There is no problem with the Killer buffs, but the fact that BHVR ALSO nerfed solo queue survivor is why you get a lot of people just quitting mid match.

We love nurses who treat whether or not they win as a life or death situation

A nurse slugging at 4 gens…Literally every nurse is the same.💀

wish they’d give us another game mode. maybe a perkless one with some changes or so to make the game more chill. it’s so competitive now I miss being able to get on and just have fun, now it’s ALWAYS sweaty and it’s kind of a chore to play.

After buffing killers, they now need to step up and do something about camping. It has always been effective, but now with longer gen times it's too much of a viable strategy to just facecamp. First step would be removing hookgrabs, second would be some kind of debuff when the killer stays close to the hook. Maybe it should buff gen speeds or something when the killer stays close to the hook without being in a chase.

At the moment it just feels like prove thyself, circle of healing and a toolbox are absolutely necessary. I don't really mind the sped up killer actions, it's just a matter of an adjustment in timing, but gen speeds slowing down is pretty painful. I was playing in a 3 man swf and the only way we were getting gens done was pairing up to do them and one running off once a killer starts chasing.

I dont blame the survivors in the slightest The Nurse players made the game as unfun as possible so its to be expected people wont want to play as a response to the super slugging gameplay

I haven't been able to really have fun playing DBD as survivor in months, and with the recent update It's been even more miserable. DCs, Camping, and Tunneling is more prevelant than ever imo. I was hoping the new update would breath some new life in it for me but damn I open the game and immeditely close it.

Otz is the only streamer that talks about both sides honestly and doesn’t just take everything one sided

The solution has always been clear: increase timer on hook if killer is within 24 meters. Make grouping up auto raise your MMR significantly.

Yeah for me is the same thing…and the nurse I think must be nerfed, the only chance with a good nurse is if you predict future

solo survivor post-update has honestly killed this game for me to a degree. i like a lot of the changes they made with the update but it feels like solo survivors really drew the short stick on this one. i wish there was a way to communicate with your teammates in-game just to make the solo experience a tad better, especially when 4 stacks can have comms and information coming from 3 other people at all times. or maybe i just need friends. who knows.

With most games being thanataphobia + regression legion and/or insta-down nurse, I can't blame anyone for quitting. It's either go next or sit in a game that's going to take a million years of back and forth or just be a game of constant immersion and little progress.

I mostly play Survivor, I always have, and 9.9/10, it’s solo. I have very few friends who have DBD, and following this update, it’s gotten far worse trying to make it through without DCs, people giving up, and sometimes farming. The update is nice and all, but as someone who exclusively plays solo survivor, it’s very challenging to play with the current state we are in.

That Nurse at the end was a real piece of work. I can see why everyone hates them.

3:01 Himself said it, it’s a Nurse that got 3 down in 30 sec at 4 gens, I get that he wants to kill himself on hook

I made a comment about my solo experience in a dbd group. I got attacked for saying the new update had no consideration for solo 😂

For me, I'm getting give-ups while running 0 slowdown on just normal M1 killers. People just seem to throw themselves at me regardless of gamestate, I had 3 people charging my hook just after I put someone on it as an Oni with power up. It genuinely feels that, from a killer's perspective, something like 80% of players are so used to being nigh invulnerable that it doesn't even take a good build to get them to give up. I feel bad for all the survivors who are just playing the game and adapting to the new state of balance instead of going next the moment the killer looks at them.

A big Change I’d love to see is when a Player DCs everyone else can DC without a penalty because when someone DCs at 5 gens, IT IS NOT FUN TO SWEAT AS 3 SURVIVORS ON GENS. Especially since the update gave 4 Base-kit buffs with recovery,Faster pallet breaks,Bloodlust time to active & 10 extra seconds on gens. Survivors got a Base kit buff with 5secs of safe unhook but nerfed the speed boost you get when hit Also ruin & Corrupt don’t deactivate if a player DCs. Now the changes are in good taste with 10 extra seconds on gens and perks changes were very much needed But adding the Hit recovery to being basically 2 stacks of STBFL Base-kit was pretty crazy especially since STBFL can now have a 10 Stack count Since they didn’t touch the actual perk which has 8 Stacks, having this plus the survivors reaching less distance is an insane over look in balance between killers BUT I do now the Boosted survivors MMR is going to go down and I pray that means I finally get teammates who don’t cry and give up on first hook at 3-5 Gens or DC and they also won’t be going down in 20-30 seconds because I still loop for 2-3 Gens EVERY GAME (No matter the killer) however it is made worthless if my team goes down in 20secs or were not on Gens which is a Sad Fact in solo Q. I run Dead hard which is being slept on so hard rn 130 time successful with only 10 Fails & boon healing for my team to have no reason not to be healed the other two perks i have chest perks for farming (Im a horder) so no i don’t use 4 meta perks.I play This game solo and Just Vibe because if you go in solo q to be a “Comp” player you’re probably gonna be a little frustrated just saying, And when people decide this their normally the ones who give up on hook and Are Quick to DC.Now very long comment I would like for Debates I play both killer and survivor for 2HRs each a day so with debating plz don’t be biased

I unfortunately relate too hard to trying to play solo survivor, a bunch of things going wrong immediately, getting my spirit crushed for honestly not much reason, and giving up.

"I just want a normal game" has been what I've been internally screaming. Now if I see everybody dead at 5 gens I just disconnect as well unless I'm feeling like a masochist.

It’s just very demoralizing when the gens take so long on top of slow down perks and it feels like the game isn’t progressing I’d honestly just wanna get on to the next game

I bet it has a great personality

What I've realized in solo queue is that now more than ever, you HAVE to play selfishly to ensure your own escape. This update really has made solo queue abysmal. I usually like play altruistic and help my teammates escape so they feel like they had fun too, but ever since this update, it's been impossible. I've had to play so selfishly and it honestly kinda sucks. Btw, I understand why those guys gave up at the end. Those types of nurses aren't fun to go against at all especially if you just wanna dick around. I would just rather get myself out of the game as quickly as possible lol.

I yelled "What are you doing!?" at the same time as Otz when I saw the survivor just standing there next to the hooked survivor as the nurse was in her 12-second blink and swing recovery animation.

the anti tunneling 5 second BT is nothing to a nurse, blight, or anyone that has a couple stacks of save the best for last😂

I think Nurse should only have one blink equal to the total potential distance of two, but with a scaling cooldown. That way, she can't correct positioning and has to commit to a single blink AND suffer the cooldown while retaining her gameplay style. It would turn her into a more precision-requiring killer and survivors have a miniature grace period after a blink to correct their pathing for optimal chases.

I deinstalled the game. Solo is unplayable with facecamp winning, 2 teammate doing multiple random chests and totems and not do a single gen while I got 3 done alone and some david was pro and ran for the whole time vs the clown (heared by his screams). my friend is offline for at least 3 Months and I can't take more random matches like that. good luck everyone else!

Otz saying "and then it's starstruck and 3 people go down" being immediately followed by someone going down to starstruck and then the nurse blinking directly to him and downing him sent me

After years of maining killer I've finally tried playing survivor and man...it's not fun. I've had no idea that camping was actually so common.

after looking for a long time I finally found the causation, they've also wrote they *tremendously reduced the usefulness of your teammates*

I'm fairly "new" to the game and I just can say that I've experienced more dc's since the patch, the changes are good but only for low tier killers, the meta ones just got even stronger

Honestly I think 50% of the time the tome's probably the only reason your survivor teammate is there. I know I don't play survivor unless I'm doing tome challenges, and I'm not there to "win" I'm there to complete whatever absurd challenge the devs thought up. If they'd just make all challenges survivor OR killer you'd probably be having better games.

I can totally understand wanting to just suicide against a Nurse. Every single nurse out there is just running full exposed/tracking builds and tryharding the game so badly that you'd think their entire family would be killed if they didn't 4k. Usually against SoloQ lobbies with people wanting to do the newly opened archives, running off-meta builds and trying out new stuff. It's insufferable

you can tell survivor morale is on the ground when a legion getting a 5th hit down at the start of the match causes 2 dcs and the other 2 to just stand still till they get killed

I love watching Otzdarva play, but since the MMR update i really, really think of nothing good of this game, and I always ALWAYS wonder how can Otz keep playing this.

I think there is definitely something to be said with Nurse being bad for the game. When someone is a peak nurse there is literally no counterplay. She breaks perks that are perfectly balanced for everyone else, and destroys map design as a concept. She needs a complete redesign.

7:57 my favorite part by far 🤣. Ruin went from the strongest perk in the game forcing people to master skill checks to a literal joke. Literally no need to leave gens to search for it now.

I feel like the tunnel/camping /sluging got to a new level after the last patch...

As a solo-survivor I appreciate you making this video, it's literally been most of my experiences since the new update and it sucks. I don't even know why killers are doing this, like they got buff in the patch so why are they slugging so much. I have always said that I understand camping/tunneling/slugging as a strategy but this slugging just feels different- feels more like a power play and I hate it as its not doing the killers or survivors any better. They need to make unbreakable base kit (one time) then change unbreakable to unlimited times as that would just bring it up to Jonahs perk Boon: Exponential.

You know, despite everyone worrying about killers being stronger in some aspects, I have yet to see a soloQ that's not a disaster where the killer buffs were the reason or even had any effect. The only time the new gen speeds were debatably in effect was against a perma T3 Mikey. But only 2 gens were done that game with me being the one doing them while others kept getting downed and even yoinked. Soloq before was a pain but now it's torture.

That's not solo queue experiences, that's just a nurse experience in general. You showed 2 nurses games, even when im on a swf we just already give up the second she screams at the beggining of the match. This patch was so good for killer mains in general, but with no changes to blights and nurses, they just buffed these 2 who were already the best killers in the game to god-like tier killers now. Its just what it is. So I dont really blame survivors for giving up a game against nurse, honestly i'd do the same and you should too, if you see someone killing themselves on hook against nurse just let them go.

“If you’re not under a pallet and you go down, even with a flashlight, I’m not sticking around” -Otz

I think a great way to unsalt a lot of players is simple thus: If someone dcs within a certain time frame of the start of the match, it resets. Everyone still there goes back to lobby and it matchmakes the missing dcer. Whether that be killer or more likely, survivor. It would make such a huge difference. People that wanna dc, go for it. It eliminates everyone else getting punished. If you dc too often however, you get sent to time out. I don't mean ban, I mean you HAVE to spectate an entire match or you can't play.

I’m not sure if it’s because of rank reset, people not recognizing non-meta perks, or people assuming all survivors are refusing to play properly, but I’ve had a lot of people get mad when I refuse a heal and instead jump in a locker with Inner Strength. I had one person open the locker to let the killer know I was in there just as I healed. I think they realized what happened afterward because they tried to help me later (I guess as an apology), but still, I was annoyed.

I like how most of the problem is literally bad teammates. Nothing more annoying than teammates not doing gens and killing themselves on first hook smh.

worst thing ever is when you have a good, long chase at the start of the game and when you go down you think, "that was good, that was enough time for at least 2 gens to be close to done" ...and then you see the other 3 survivors doing fuck all

"but find the attitude of some solo players right now to be absolutely horrible. People are giving up way too easily, making many games absolutely infuriating." Cuz solo queue players have had enough. Any DBD player that doesn't main solo queue can probably not relate. It's not this update alone that caused alot of players to give up or quit, rather it's the continuous neglect of solo queue that has been building up this frustration, and this update caused that frustration to explode. Killer mains are OUT OF TOUCH with how solo queue players feel like, cuz they have not spent thousands of hours in solo queue, so they are ignorant of this. More and more survivors are quitting, so people will realise sooner or later.

Otz you should definitely make more and longer videos like this (solo survivor experience) it's so freaking funny I can't anymore :D

Genuinely the main reason I’ve had a hard time playing survivor recently is because people just give up. They kill themselves on hook or just don’t do gens. It’s really unfortunate

I rarely play swf with 4 people. I usually play with 1 or 2 friends and games are still so frustrating

It's weird how matchmaking incentives boosted survivor queues so much, and then got disabled.

It's literally just the mindset of survivors. So many have just given up if the early game doesn't go well for them. It's actually crazy, the one time killers get a straight buff and deadhard is removed suddenly people who crutched super hard on second chance perks can't play the game unless it's a baby killer. Weird.

I just feel like if they are going to build the game around the SWF dynamic they really need to add in game chat. I really don't know why they are so stuck on not letting us talk to each other, the game has evolved past that idea-WAY beyond

Before update I rarely ever saw disconnects or suicide on hooks. And most of the time they were either new and didnt know they were suiciding on hook or we were winning and someone DCed I assumed out of a actual system crash. Now after update at least 2 out 4 of my teamates are DCing or suiciding on hook. And I dont blame them, byt the time theyre doing that its usually an apparent loss where the killer is snowballing.

I can feel your frustration on that survivor giving up on first hook, but when everyone is against the ropes vs. a broken killer with a broken build, can you really blame them for not wanting to kid themselves and think there is a chance to come back? That survivor knew only one person could've made it out at that point in the match.

I had 2 matches yesterday while running open handed kindred with a facecamping bubba. I proceeded to watch 2 teammates sit near when i got hooked while the last guy did totems in the corner. Kindred is by far the best killer perk in the game confirmed

One of DbD's main issues always has been and (unless they decide to completely change direction) always will be that SWF and solos aren't treated differently when their respective experiences are like day and night, almost like you play 2 different games. Yes, Killers needed a buff (even the relatively minor ones like we got) to deal with SWF who used to bully most Killer players that a) haven't spent 8k+ hours playing mostly Killer like Otz did (and he also got destroyed during win streak attemps when he was really "tryharding", showing how a strong SWF is the true power role in this game) or b) main Nurse or Blight. The problem is that solos were already on the bottom of the proverbial food chain after the SBMM change 3 months ago finally completely and utterly destroyed matchmaking, pairing people like me (5.5k hours, I'd say I'm of average skill) with a French comp player (who's above my skill level) and a 270 hour Meg whose play style made it obvious that she wasn't smurfing. Buffing Killers to deal with SWF who Shift + W and pre-drop pallets while their teammates rush gens is fine and has been long overdue but it made solo queue absolutely disgusting. I think BHVR needs to do one of two things: a) Come out publicly and tell everyone that DbD has changed over the years and is now meant to be played with others on coms. While solo play remains an option for Survivors everybody should know that it's an afterthought and will be disregarded for future balancing decisions. If the devs did this expectations could be adjusted accordingly and solo players could either look for a group on the official forums, Discord, Steam groups, FB groups etc. - or stop playing. Right now people playing Survivor solo expect the devs to adjust the game for both SWF and them which is just impossible. BHVR failed attempting that for 6 years now - it's time to stop pretending they could pull it off. b) Add limitations to SWF like an action speed debuff OR buff the Killer's base action speed for each member of a pre-made group while keeping solo play at default values. That way Killers could deal with the higher efficiency of SWF easier but solo would remain relatively unaffected. The problem is that the DbD community for some reason refuses to see that SWF and solo need to be treated differently, coming out with emotional responses like "Yeah, punish me for playing with my friends, I guess you don't have friends, so sad" or "SEAL team SWF are super rare, me and my buddies just screw around" (the latter is pure irony btw because if they "screw around" - which actually means "screwing around with the Killer", let's be real - and STILL escape a lot of their games that's just proof how busted SWF is and always has been). I've been playing multiplayer games online for decades (yes, I'm old) - and I've never seen such weird behaviour before. Imagine if in League of Legends people came out in droves to say "Oh, you punish me for having friends" because you can only duo in ranked matches (full pre-made teams of up to 5 players aren't possible, only in unranked) and only in lower ELOs (yes, you're forced to play ranked solo at the highest level, there's no pre-made option at all, only in unranked). Of course this isn't happening because solos would get absolutely wrecked by full pre-made squads and ranked - which is League's prime game mode - would become a total clusterf*ck, bad players would get carried to ELOs they don't belong to by their more skilled friends while skilled solos would keep losing due to the inherent disadvantage they face going against pre-mades of 3-5 people on coms... kinda like DbD now that I think about it. ^^ Sadly I don't see either option happening, instead the devs will try to plasterfix solo like they said they were going to - which obviously won't work. There's no way, no basekit change they could ever implement to give solos the same level of information SWFs have, not even close... unless they finally implemented open voice or at least text chat for everyone but they don't want to do that because some people say mean words on the interwebs that offend others who then "can't even" anymore. So yeah... Killers or solo Survivors will always suffer, SWF is the only way to consistently have fun with this game, always has been, most likely always will be. Buffing the solo Survivor experience means SWF get even stronger, making Killer absolutely miserable while buffing Killers makes playing Survivor solo causing depression. I guess we just have to deal with it or find something else to play... **shrugs**

I just play Lisa Garland with botany, empathy, aftercare and we're gonna live forever. Seems to help keep other solos in the game and help them decide what to do, more easily, when they know if someone's on a gen, going for the save, where to get heals and so on. Still can't do much for people that just give up instntly tho, but it might help with coordonation/longevity for the others.

Just look at the player base… been steady dropping since the update. Says a lot about how the new perk rework is going 😂

Played against nurse last night. Theres literally nothing you can do after getting hit since she can just blink right to you

Otz thank you so much for posting this video this has been the majority of my solo queue games since the update it’s painful. We also have a swf of 3 and we still get wrecked even with coms don’t know how much longer we can put up with this game it’s not enjoyable anymore.

Game as survivor definitely feels a lot harder to me, probably because I am not good at it. Chases can be frustratingly short without dead hard, especially against killer that can catch up quickly like blight or spirit. Together with longer gen times, playing surv feels bad right now.

Why wouldn't people give up honestly? When you see the random Steve go down after a 10 second chase only to be farmed off hook and get immediately hooked again. Then you have the wraith who cloaks a bit besides the hook just so he can't be heard for only to rush straight after the one unhooked again. You say survivors have made the game horrible, well guess what, the killers are equally to blame. I remember only a year back where you might have run into a facecamper/proxycamper now and then, on average once to twice per day. Now NOT having a facecamper/proxycamper is the exception.

BHVR logic: “we’ve heard your complaints about camping, tunneling, and nurse’s broken addons so in an effort to fix that we have removed deadhard and destroyed decisive strike”

Otz:We are not doing that bad The three people bleeding on the ground: Are we a joke to you?

I almost always play Killer, and was happy with most perk changes, I heard solo queue got harder and thought nothing of it until I noticed I was regularly ending matches with a 4K and like 3 gens left. I tried playing some survivor and holy crap, this update is brutal on their side of things.

I not only tend to get dcs every game now, but killers (blights and nurses especially) who exclusively camp and tunnel. It’s really frustrating having to expect one or both outcomes every solo game now which is a shame because I actually really like this update.

My personal experience with playing survivor has not really changed all that much, although I m still learning to play/loop better as a survivor. I really think why some players have a hard time adapting and just give up on hook, because they dont trust the other three players to play as good as they want them to. The focus being shifted more towards doing gens and "selfish" perks (DS, DH, etc.) being nerfed maybe benefits the soloq playerbase, because team perks (and perks to take hits for others) have much more value. This comes from personal experience on a, I assume, not that high MMR. Also it really is a joy to not play against NOEDs every second game.

Otz calling survivors scumbags for killing themselves on hook but won't get crucified like Matthew Santoro 🤣

The increased gen times was the worst change, even if it isn't that noticeable. Bad killers don't actually gain any value from it, good killers have more time to stop gens and even 10 seconds is a huge deal, even makes camping even better. As a solo survivor I need meta perks more than ever, and play more selfish if I want to even dream of escaping or seeing the escape gates

was playing with a friend before and after the update and it definitely has gotten really bad for survivors, I played killer way more before the update and it is miserable as survivor post-update unless you get stellar teammates. Used to be able to squeak it out as duo or solo for fun but now it's extremely difficult

Yeah I've been struggling with this a ton in solo queue as it seems like the majority of my games is just facing extremely strong builds on like nurse, blight, etc and my teammates just give up at 4 gens or do nothing and get destroyed every game.

That ending was so satisfying to watch. Seeing a Nurse play herself that hard.