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CUSTOMER SENT ME A POWER SUPPLY BOARD TO TEST 

NorCal715
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Testing a customers power supply board. The smoke at the end is from the lamp with both elements of the lamp lit melting the rubber mat that it was sitting on. The Variac I am using has a built in isolation transformer. It is a sencore PR57. Here is a link to it. akdatabase.org/...
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@bobbyk6585
@bobbyk6585 Год назад
Clever use of the incandescent bulbs for a load. I might have come up with the same option.
@henrikloiske8572
@henrikloiske8572 5 лет назад
Im glad you are back...you are by far the best tv repair man on RU-vid...i have learned alot from you....considering that i am almost 50 years old ...keep them videos coming...you are the champ :)
@NunYa953
@NunYa953 5 лет назад
I can tell you without all of that testing what's wrong with that TV: ITS A HISENSE! 🤦‍♂️😂
@mannyfernandez7028
@mannyfernandez7028 5 лет назад
i have a clicker press with an end of life pcb..I got it fixed for about $80US.They changed a cap and a relay.I was very relieved they got it fixed .Its really a very old Italian made machine Atom G999..You Electronic guys are the greatest..sorry for my english im not a native speaker.Have an awesome day!
@frankpitochelli6786
@frankpitochelli6786 5 лет назад
Great work as usual. I had the cap problem in that power supply, took me three days of back and fourth on the chassis, I saw your video and bingo, it was fixed. Of course, that was a few years ago .
@saddle1940
@saddle1940 5 лет назад
Good video as usual. I'll be leaving it on for a while and looking for dry joints before sending it back though. Mounting in the chassis might also cause the issues that the customer has mentioned. I like your smoke machine with the bulbs and pad! Last supply I got in was from a Sami 46A650 (old but nice image) where the owner tried to fix the fuses that kept blowing by wrapping a dead one in aluminium foil. There was a short in the power fets, you wouldn't believe the damage that board suffered when he turned it back on.
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 5 лет назад
I have never needed to deal with a base load for the standby. However, it has been a common issue that the MAIN output ( 5 V because it provides the feedback ) has needed a minimum load. That has been listed in the data sheet. But generally that covers all worst case situations regarding line voltages and ambient temperatures. The data sheet specified value has been more than the necessary minimum load. Our experience has been that 50 to 60% of the specified minimum load has always worked. But definitely only occasionally does some power supply start without at least some load on the main output.
@carloscortez7930
@carloscortez7930 5 лет назад
Hey Norcal great video, its been a while since I seen a new video. Miss your very informative and professional skill trade videos.
@gortnewton4765
@gortnewton4765 5 лет назад
Mate! A Variac does NOT isolate you!!! Only an isolation transformer isolates you and ONLY if it is explicitly made for the purpose. A Variac is connected to Active and Neutral, all that is happening is that you have a variable voltage out from the Variac. You are NOT isolated from the mains. Also, that alligator clip connection on to the mains pins is NOT secure. I fixed switch modes and you are NOT doing it the save way. Also, that switch mode is old. First thing to do is check all capacitors with power off. Switch modes can BLOW UP if you are not careful.
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
I added a comment in the description. It is isolated via the Sencore PR57 powerite . it has a variac and an isolation transformer all in one.
@gortnewton4765
@gortnewton4765 5 лет назад
@@norcal715 Good, that is a relief to know. Nice video by the way.
@GlennHamblin
@GlennHamblin 5 лет назад
All switchers need a minimum load to operate. Sometimes an active load is built on the supply to ensure startup. Obviously that is not the case here. However, you can probably get away with a small load on one of the rails because it looks like they are all generated by the same switcher. What I'm saying is that you probably could have put two lamps in series on the 24V rail and the entire supply would have come up. Just a suggestion, not in any way a criticism. Good video, thanks.
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
You are probably correct. I am planning on ordering some high-wattage low-value resistors to accurately load the supplies in the future. Thank you for your support.
@GlennHamblin
@GlennHamblin 5 лет назад
@@norcal715 You can probably pick up a power resistance decade box for not too much on eBay. Very handy for power supply trouble shooting and repair when an electronic load is out of the budget.
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT 5 лет назад
I am in NorCal/Shingletown near Redding...My son has 1000W switching supply sodium lamp driver that delivers between 300 and 400V to the lamp for variable output. the unit runs on 220VAC supply but it was wired incorrectly, where ground got 1 of the 110V lines, and 1 of the line inputs got ground with the other getting 110V line as it's supposed to. the unit no longer works. As expected the case (ground) has only 2 references to the circuit board. Each of the 2 only go from the ground plane/case through flat capacitors to each Line connection after induction coils but before bridge rectification, I know this to be for surge protection. This should not have caused a failure. . I was thinking that maybe driving the 220V lines with 110V (ground is referenced to neutral back at the electrical panel) may have cause the mosfet switcher to lock "on" instead of oscillating which would send solid current through the mosfet via one of the primary windings of the main transformer and burning it. I call it the "exciter" winding because the other primary winding gets constant filtered DC from the line input via a bridge rectifier. (actually they parallel two of them and heatsink.) What else could be wrong? P.S. they poured a black goop all over the board and components that melts at about 200F, how nice of them :-) If you have any ideas, you can PM me because I don't get notifications to replies.
@karimimohamed
@karimimohamed 5 лет назад
thank you sir
@josephcote6120
@josephcote6120 5 лет назад
Just a safety issue. If all you're using is a plain variac, then you're NOT isolated. Variacs are autotransformers, there is only one winding. If any part of it connected to mains, the output is too. Not trying to get on anyone's case about it, just don't want folks to think a variac protects them. An actual isolation transformer is needed.
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
I am using a Sencore PR57 variac with built in isolation transformer. I will make a note of it in the description. Thanks
@josephcote6120
@josephcote6120 5 лет назад
@@norcal715 That's a nice machine. I have an old Heathkit IP-5220. Lifesavers.
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 5 лет назад
Thanks! I saw some smoke there at the end...
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
the lamp was heating the rubber mat it was sitting on
@airgliderz
@airgliderz 5 лет назад
Helpful, fixing my TV now.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 5 лет назад
NorCal715, You might wish to save some time and effort by recapping the supply. It's a cheap fix and prevents problems later.
@electronicartis
@electronicartis 5 лет назад
Sometime the 4.7volt need to be exactly 5.0 are something you may have intimated starting on the TV
@mixinginthebox
@mixinginthebox 5 лет назад
Thank you..
@EastCoastScott
@EastCoastScott 5 лет назад
OMG your back with new videos!!!
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 года назад
I was going to get a HiSense , low cost , but CHEAPED-OUT ON ELECTRONICS ? I mean It isn't going to have Nichicon caps in it.🤣
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays 5 лет назад
It's my understanding that a variac does not provide isolation. Do you have some special power input arrangement?
@paultucker2027
@paultucker2027 5 лет назад
Correct, a standard variac is NOT Isolated
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
The variac I have is a sencore PR57 and it has an isolation transformer built in as well as a variac. A standard variac transformer does not provide isolation. Here is a link to the pdf owners manual and schematic. akdatabase.org/AKview/albums/userpics/10007/Sencore%20PR-57%20Manual.pdf
@leozendo3500
@leozendo3500 5 лет назад
Smoke at the end of the video.
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 5 лет назад
I noticed it too at about 9:37.
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
It's in the description. Melted the rubber mat I had it on.
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 5 лет назад
@@norcal715 You need a proper anti-static rubber mat that won't melt so easily. :)
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 года назад
But was there fire ?😍
@chemlung5368
@chemlung5368 3 года назад
Is it true that if display panel is bad it’s useless to repair as cost of available is as much as a replacement tv
@norcal715
@norcal715 3 года назад
In most cases yes, if you can even find a display. Most companies do not supply them as a replacement part.
@leonjohnsonjr3331
@leonjohnsonjr3331 4 года назад
I had the same power supply and the 2 caps on the top corner 10uf 25v was dead
@newls1
@newls1 5 лет назад
so smart
@mrsemifixit
@mrsemifixit 5 лет назад
How did you have the power supply connected to get past the in-rush current needed by the bulbs?
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
Just connected in parallel to the bulb, and completely isolated from main supply or earth connections. the power supply is isolated and the variac is isolated also. Make sure to watch part 2 of this saga also. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e5__hNFu0h4.html Thanks for watching
@uricohen5463
@uricohen5463 5 лет назад
hello sir what soldering iron do you use and what temperature thank you
@kaunisiapa
@kaunisiapa 5 лет назад
I love ur watch.. 😁😁😁
@hardscorerockkssss
@hardscorerockkssss 5 лет назад
i see failed cap with out needs measure?how did did video maker miss it??
@joshuabest100
@joshuabest100 5 лет назад
Where
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
Right. Which one? I will look at again.
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 5 лет назад
No ESR cap testing or ripple test with a oscilloscope when under load?
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
Maybe at a future time
@abeleski
@abeleski 5 лет назад
great video. The resistor from STBY to PSON ...is that to limit current?
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
Yes exactly. just in case the manufacturer of the board didn't put current limiting to the relay drive transistor.
@leonjohnsonjr3331
@leonjohnsonjr3331 5 лет назад
Yes i remember u had 2 tvs with the same problem in your shop
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
good memory
@cradeal-comboardss-com6651
@cradeal-comboardss-com6651 5 лет назад
replace parts from www.boardss.com
@anthonywalker7908
@anthonywalker7908 5 лет назад
You say a variac provides mains isolation. Well they don't. What on earth, no pun intended, are you telling us it does for? You sound to be a dangerous person.
@norcal715
@norcal715 5 лет назад
Read the video description it has an isolation transformer in it
@jimhibert
@jimhibert 5 лет назад
Z
@wingmaster012
@wingmaster012 5 лет назад
Great Video. Lets Fight against obsulation and the crap the big Players produce so that you wont have to buy a new Set because of parts for 50cents. More of these repair Stuff.
@jerryspann8713
@jerryspann8713 3 года назад
It's these damn switching pos power supplies they keep using. Why can't they use a linear power supply.
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