Saw arrived yesterday ru-vid.comUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and today I cut about 3/4 cord of wood with it. Make sure you get an extension chord that is at least 12 gauge wire, minimum. This is my first electric in about 10 years, and things sure have improved. The self-sharpener works great, and it just kept cutting through some pretty decent logs. Wear your eye protection, and ear protection. Excellent saw.
Thanks Jake for being part of that job it was definitely a once in a lifetime thing for me to climb on the same job as the Tom Brady of tree climbing 🤟
@Pèék - Well that was an exceptionally thorough response, and I do appreciate it! The part about how so many people are against using a saw with one hand, I am already familiar with; the whole "Akimbo" stylistic aspect is completely new to me. Thanks for taking the time!!
“The more arborist videos I watch, the more I realise how good August Hunicke is” posted on your video, you gotta admit that is funny, 😂 you do ok too jake 🙂👍
@@j.debolt Dave Colman is a good climber, he never puts any videos out. One video a year, no one will talk about you. Jacob is just as good of a climber
The 200T is 35.2 cc The cs 355t is 35.8 the echo is around $350 muffler mod and timing advance they do good. It would be a shoot out of the cheep saws. I have had my echo over a year it is a runner, toss the stock chain. Anyway keep climbing have fun. Catch ya later.
@@Billster1955 that other guy who I will not mention out of respect for Jacob(lol) has been running the 2511? with Panther bar and it seems to be doing good. I am running a 355T but I am a nobody.
I was going to comment the same thing. I have a 355T and it's only 35 bucks more and made in Japan. I'd be curious how it stacks up to this Chinese one.
@John Dunbar @Blister1955 broken a 355T yet? I run one that I ported, with a panther 16” bar and chain from august. Rips. But the forward screw mount of the top handle breaks off the crankcase REALLY easily. Don’t drop it and don’t haul like a gorilla on a pinched saw.
I run a old 020t and about to get a 201t for a pruning and back up saw I know I'll be disappointed in the power but I'm not paying new prices for second hand saws
I’ve owned a 201tc for a few weeks now, so far I really like it. Admittedly I’m not running it every day all day in a tree, but it’s got solid power and cuts fast. It was a huge improvement over our previous 194t.
@@backwoodslogging8443 open up the muffler and advance the timing and the 201 does great. Buy new like you said you would; later ones come with a pop-up piston for more compression and make noticeably more power. The original ones were EPA-saddled dogs and gave the model a bad rep.
Dude you are really good at what you do. It definitely takes skill and climbing is not for the faint of heart. I did tree service for about a year and learned a lot in that year, it was some of the most physically demanding work I have ever done. I am a carpenter by trade and I’ve been a carpenter for over 20 years but always enjoy being able to take on some smaller tree work on the side. I have a lot if respect for what you guys do. Your channel is awesome, you put out great content and I love learning new shit from watching your videos. Keep on keeping on brother
The intro hinge-wood moan! I’m gonna get the Holzfforma 660 clone and use it for milling (run it a little fat and hope it lasts). It’s a better plan than strapping a 36inch bar to my 42cc craftsman 🤣
Just got a 660 clone myself, have quite a few large hardwoods on the property and i figured its ok to splurge sometimes. So far its been awesome, book says to run some ungodly mix but on the 40:1 mix like all the other saws i own its been good to me! Hope you enjoy it !
Much respect for what you do, after most of the branches would swing back and hit me in the face, I’d cut my rope and take the express way down. Keep up the good work and thanks for the reviews. 👍🏾
I've wanted to buy a saw so I don't have to keep borrowing my father-in-law's. But I couldn't justify spending the money on a brand new Stihl that I'll only use a few times a year. These Holtzforma knockoffs look like a great solution. I can spend a few more bucks on mods and end up with a solid saw, at least for homeowner use. Thanks for the reviews!
"But I couldn't justify spending the money on a brand new Stihl that I'll only use a few times a year." There are several real Stihl models that are significantly cheaper than the $289 Holtzforma knockoff in this video. The MS 170 is only $180 right now on Stihl's official website (usually $200) for example and should be more than sufficient for "homeowner use a few times a year."
I did a Douglas Fir tree like that in the late 80's in a town called Carver, Oregon. It too was about 170 feet tall, or more. I put a pull line about 15 feet from the top and then dropped down around 15 feet to top it. After I did the cut and the top toppled off there, it seemed like it took forever to hit the ground. I needed the pull line because the tree was about 10 feet from a home, so I wanted to do my best to not let it go the wrong way. I took another 50 feet out of it the same way. After that I quit climbing because it was too exciting. All these years later I just can't think about it. I wasn't strong enough to get even that tiny mac 10 up the tree, so I got up there and used a rope to pull it up. I was foolish to do that job but I had a hard time with NO.
i think auto-correct struck, and highjacked the authors "exhausted" to "excited". thats the nice thing about old school work, none of this computer nonsense!
Jake I am retired from Marine Construction and live in Maine. I found your channel a couple of months ago and had to tell you that I really enjoy the videos. When I started following channels on You Tube years ago the first one was doing tree work. I have always been fascinated by you guys rigging limbs to get huge trees down in extremely tight places. I am enjoying you channel because you travel around so we can see challenges with different type trees in areas we usually don’t see and you work with some awesome people using different methods,gear and equipment. Just had to let you know I appreciate your channel and glad I subscribed. Keep up the good work! 👍👍👍
In 1975 I bought a Stihl 020 as a firewood saw for us and others. It was worked hard but kept clean and serviced. From 1985 to 1995 I ran it on Amsoil @ 100:1 and it "loved" it, even though such a lean mix sort of went against the grain and against ardent doom prophets' advice. I no longer used firewood after '95 so the saw was passed on to a friend. I'd be interested in an arborist's take on that matter as chainsaws are your tools of trade whereas mine was largely seasonal and intermittent. (I learned the hard way NEVER lend your saw to another, even a friend!) Col, NZ
There was a product (here-U.S.) called "Optimol" that we ran 40 years ago. Never burned any saws up from that (used skidder-oil in the oiler with metal bits crashed the crank once) but if it oils enough, they do like the lean mix-
Jake you are an amazing young man. I like how you handle yourself in the different kinds of trees you climb. Your work ethic is spot on. Your teaching methods are appropriated and your jokes makes others smile. You are a unique man and I enjoy watching you work. Keep it up, you will go far and wide!
Amazing video! You make the entire process look so easy which I know, it is not. I don't see any smoke from your saws. If you don't mind sharing, what brand 2cycle oil do you use and at what ratio? Your chains look magnificently sharp throughout the entire process. Do you do the sharpening? Tools used? Can't wait to watch the next video!
Just watched the vids with Reon...this is my 20th year in business in PA. I can't imagine having that big expensive equipment in this area (Philly Suburbs) due to the fact that our tree prices are in the dumps (and always have been) due to the illegal tree companies which pop in and out of existence here. There are no regulations...guys just quit their job after 2 years, take a guy or two with them, buy a chainsaw and a truck and start hustling...nothing wrong there, but they pay their workers cash bc to start a business in this industry, payroll will be hit with 36% workers comp until you prove you aren't a risk (2 - 3 years with SWIF) but when they see that they will be paying another $360 plus around another $100 per $1000 of payroll, they just make the business decision to NOT pay on the books, thereby being able to pay more money to workers, who also get the benefit of not paying taxes, to the point where the equivalent $25/ hour guy for a compliant start up would cost that company $1450/week and the workers takes home around $770... the non-compliant guy can pay the same worker $30/hr under table, it will cost him $1200/week and the worker takes home $1200. The compliant start up would have to pay around $2500/week in their cost in order to get that guy to work for them. I am not a big government guy, in fact, quite the opposite, but the tax and comp cheating isn't the end of it all...not only is the worker at risk if they are injured or maimed, but the homeowner will be responsible as their employer should a non-workers comp covered person be injured on their property, and home owners insurance will not pay for what they will most assuredly call negligence. I don't see what could be done to save the Tree Industry here, as the local government does not seem to care at all...I didn't even mention the topping, crazy elevations and lion tailing - the specialty of these very same illegal companies.
Its bad when the only legal way to run your shop is to 1099 your guys. It’s financially ruinous to have fully legitimate employees when you run a small LLC.
@@WildAcresFarms In my business (once you have things to lose in a lawsuit) 1099ing my workers only gets me around taxes and comp UNTIL something happens...then the lawyers cut right thru the fact that they aren't contractors and my S Corp protections all are dissolved by the judge, who will always side with the injured party, oh, and after that's over, the IRS will want their blood as well.
Another awesome video bro 😎 what a monster! I like how you cut your notch in half I’m gonna have to try that👌I always have trouble when the notch is that big. To bad you could not help me with the big hickory, it went well, there will be more believe that! Keep them coming bro!!!
You're driving the price of these up! It's up to $400!! Love my Monkeybeavered 2511t. She pulls all 16" of Panther 1/4 pitch through cottonwood admirably. (used it for just that last weekend) It's no 50cc beater, but she solidly punches well in the 35-40cc class despite her 25cc size. Minor mods in effect. I was thinking of trying one of these just to see what the 200t hype is about, but not for $400 plus bar and chain, going to get in on your lottery though, been meaning to send some support anyway. Great video series!
I actually just got my g111 in the mail today and it needs to be broken in for sure but it’s pretty impressive for the price. I have 3 of the 2511 for my tree service and I’ve modded one of them and they’ll fly thru pretty big oak tree branches. If I remember this comment I’ll let you know in a few weeks if the saw is worth it lol I’m really hoping it’s a good saw.
@@cortraulston218 Yep, it's hard to tell till you get some time on it and retune for the break-in. Cold out of the box isn't a fair test of any saw. At least if you buy a name brand from a pro dealer, they run it a bit and set the screws initially, something you simply don't get with the Holzforma stuff. I have a G660 "Big Blue" with a 36" Sugahara light bar and Oregon full house chain. It's a beast. Wouldn't want to run it all day though. Thanks for the info!
Jacob, what fuel mix are you running in the g111? Are you running the recommended 25:1 or are you running the stihl 50:1? I have heard many people say so many different mixtures, just curious what you run in all your saws?
Not for the faint of heart, that's for sure. These men must be in incredible shape; he's young now, I wonder how things go as you get older and older? I was fearful just watching it; what if you accidentally cut your support rope with the chainsaw? Does he have two support ropes going at all times? Unbelievable, much respect for these men . . .
I had the same question, saw in some of the videos instances where the branches looked rather close to the rope. I was assuming that isn't the only support being relied on, but couldn't see the whole rig with the head cam view.
What a good job travelling around meeting new people and climbing bloody big tree’s and seeing views that you’d only see from an aircraft or lookout station thanks for sharing your life with us
forget all the skill and precision on the felling and trimming,,,,,im just amazed at the strength, stamina, knowledge, and planning in climbing waaaay up there all the while carrying two saws and lots of extra equipment!! Guys you had me on the edge of my seat here on the couch in alabama the whole time!! i get nervous any time a limb or trunk falls, hoping its not somehow entangled in your equipment and pulls you down also!! Im glad i had a mathematics job doing rocket research for 36 yrs with both my feet on the ground. Im only confident with a small saw, my feet flat on the ground, and a tree that doesnt need limbing before felling!! My complete respects to you and also the ground crew who do an excellent job of supporting you at every moment!! Stay safe!!
I followed you on your old account and was wondering how it took so long for new videos and then you posted the reason why and I following you now back on the new channel and I love the videos
Your videos are great. For the non-techies you are incorrect that it is not an exact clone. The Stihl 200t is a 40mm cylinder and this is 35mm. A lot of difference in power. The 200t is an angry little beaver. You can match part for part with the 200t except the cylinder which is larger, better but it will fit on the farmertec. If I were in your shoes. I would do the math of adding the partS from stihl to the cost of the saw and your mechanics labor to see if can save money using the 200t. In his case you likely would save money. After the virus sthil got real proud. Farmertec used magnesium in the saws back 3 years since I bought any, today that might not be so. A quick burn test will reveal that fact.
@@rdaystrom4540 nope. the g111 is 35mm. i have a channel where i taught people to assemble the kits. it never made sense to me.measure the base. that would be hard to do if you are just reading something.
@the1chainsawguy I believe you. If what you have discovered is true then that means G111 saws are 27cc displacement. A huge difference. Why would they do that when they go to great effort to duplicate the whole saw?
@@rdaystrom4540 who knows. They have kept from getting sued by making certain choices, this must have been one of them. On the blue 660 it's cylinder is the same in the orange 660 kit same on a Stihl 660. I guess it was to keep safe. Honestly that one surprised me. The orange 200t kit is the correct cylinder, go figure. I just did not want anyone to get "taken" so to speak
I was under the impression cottonwood trees were used to make heels for women's shoes. Jake you have balls of steel for climbing. I guess if you have done it as long as you have, you get used to it. Happy New year.
Jake out here dropping straight heat 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 me and my brother who is a fellow climber we love your videos!!! Keep up the great work! My favorite video is your saw collection I thought it was cute and funny with your little girl emmy much love from Pennsylvania!!!!! Tino
Dam shots fired by that guy lol he clearly didnt see the video where you had to climb that super tall tree with august because he couldnt do it by himself.
They’re quality made by people with families. You love seeing communist-produced knockoffs because you’re just as cheap and low-tier as the intellectual thieves who produce these saws.
many people got their saws for a few years with no issues (including myself) or just minor things like chain tensioner or a brake band not seating properly. my g070 is 3 years old, 0 issues, my g372xp 2 years old, 0 issues, my g888 is now almost a year, 0 issues.
Jake I would argue your relevance as an arborist to anyone as the best….and being humble and not arrogant puts you in a different class my friend…your an inspiration brother
In another one of his videos he said that doing this is one of his hobbies. It reminded me of that old saying 'pick a job you love and you never have to work a day in your life'.
i know its not your style but i would like to watch some short videos of how you rig, or why you do what you are doing. kind of like into the mind of ol Jacob. great videos! i just wish there was more of them
I got 372 from Hollzforma. and I had to replace the carburetor to Walbro after a week or so, because the stock one was living it's own life. And since then it work perfect.
Carb and chain adjuster seem to be the two chief complaints on both clones Stihl and Husky. I have had a G444 for about the last year without issue, I have had my Stihl 044s for close to about 28yrs without issue so there is that.
Sure you wouldn't prefer an office job?...................Truly awesome, your skill and ease. I love watching people do things I couldn't do. Thanks for sharing....jk
Tree Surgeon for 16 years here, instead of cutting straight through stubs, do a step cut free fall, the snap pop lets the stub fall of more vertical, than a cut straight through, for smaller stuff, use a "slash" cut, 45-degree angle, fast sharp saw, one cut and the limb will fall at the same angle it is on the tree. I did power line safety clearance, working close or above the power network, needed precise cuts and skill, i held WL1 Scottish Power authorisation, we could get closer to the live lines than most linesmen.
Im sick of manufactures sticking it to everybody while manufactring goes down. they have figured out that selling 5 saws for $200 makes them $1000 BUT they can get people to pay $1000 for 1 saw. this applies to everything. Im sick of it. Pus having taken high falls, it never hurts rigth away just that brethless ugh you let out before you reolise im hurt bad
Is that kind of work a sport, a craft or a skill? You guys are beyond awesome and it's absolutely mesmerizing watching you scale such heights to do your work.
As someone that does a bit of all different trades and as a novice climber, I would say craft and skill. Though some climbers do compete to be the fastest in regulated competitions at which point it does become sport. But it's bar none the hardest thing I've ever taken on in my life. So you are truly watching a master of the craft here.
I’ve had the Holz 372 for a couple years and I have put a couple hundred tanks through it. Their pull ropes are junk, I replaced mine (and all my broken pull ropes) with bulk 550 paracord. The muffler bolts wiggle loose and need loctite. The saw came way too lean for having a completely hollow muffler so I fattened mine up a bit. The chain tensioner is chincy but has held up. The 25:1 recommended mix is WAY too rich after break-in so I’ve run 40:1 with synthetic oil ever since with no issues. Other than a few small things like your buddy said, it is an amazing chainsaw for the $300 I paid for it. Literally pops first pull just like day one! Even had an unlimited coil and a legit Bosch spark plug.
Sitting thinking - why do I like watching trees being cut? Idk I also like seeing where they fall to, even the small branches. I think Jakes personality comes into the mix too. Best wishes & keep safe from 🇬🇧
..really, $300.00 is quite a lot for a Chinese knockoff saw..knockoff of a MS 200T or not (the REAL 200T was really overpriced, too..they just knew people would pay it because..A:..it was a very good climbing saw, probably the best, and B:..it said "STIHL" on it..as far as patents, I think it doesn't matter in Red China..I'm sure the patents are disregarded, not bought..after all, who is going to do anything about it, and what could they do if they tried?...I'm not saying I wouldn't have one, I just think for a pirated China copy, about $149.00 would be more in line...
the long limb you dropped with rigging at 20:11, how many wraps were on the portawrap for that one? any way of finding out? That drop was beautiful. Textbook. Hats off to your groundies! Tell them I said so
The holzfforma saws are pretty badass for how inexpensive they are. Ive done multiple tree jobs with my 372xp clone and never even had to use my backup.
somebody please help... all I can ask is what brand of chain cuts best,longest between sharpenings,and their cost...ALL CHAINSAWS are pretty good,well built and the chain is the main deal. I have a remington with 18 in bar and chain..engine runs great but drive gear on back of clutch is worn out..will not run chain..company says parts are no longer made but they will happily sell me new saw..no way.. if saw and patrs are discontinued after a couple of years then I'm getting diffrent brand..never had that trouble with poulan,or any other stuff...so the chain is what I need info on...forget saw,who has best,longest lasting CHAIN? I really need an answer if anyone knows the best to buy.
Mine is 90$ Chinese made. All I can afford. Gets the job done. Also, in Thailand we are only allowed to use no more than 12" bar. Anything longer you have to apply for permit, which you almost can just forget it unless you have money to pay for the official to do their job.
Great video Jake! I use the same size block (the green one) for most small/medium jobs, and i'm looking to upgrade my sling game... been eyeing the Ultra slings for a while, curious what size and length you're finding to be most useful/versatile? Thanks man, and stay safe!
Just a crazy, good job in the stratosphere cutting those trees down. 👏👏👏 I'm by no means a professional, but I cut a fair number of trees each year managing my property. One of my go to saws is a Stihl 028 Wood Boss. I suspect I bought it before you boys were born. Still purrs like an angry dog. Anyway, my point is no Chinese saws for me despite the initial lower cost. Reliability and longevity are importent to me. Also, if the option exists to buy a product I need that is made in the USA, I prefer that as I want to support American workers.
