Great review of the bar and chain, Tinman! I think your advice is really great regarding folks who want to do some longer bar cutting but don't want to take the plunge price wise 👍
They eat! It’s nice to see your thoughts on cheaper/aftermarket parts. I really enjoyed listening to your thoughts on this bar/chain and also the hyway cylinder earlier in the series.
The 268 is running good! I have had the best luck with carlton and Husqvarna x-cut chain in hardwoods so far. They consistently cut 3x the amount of trees before needing to be sharpened. They last longer and cut back on time spent sharpening which saves $.
I'd love to see you buy a holzfforma or build one of their kits as a series and let us new or curious guys know what you think the Chinese saws are missing on....and then you could orangutan it and not feel bad messing with an old saw?
@@KT-et5vn I want to see him go all mad scientist on a big cc saw like to where we see him rubbing his hands together with a goofy grin in excitement....lol maybe he can finish the videos with "well you could definitely run this saw..for 2 months until it blows hahaha"
@Playingwithwood I built one a few months ago with all the original parts and it doesn't have any issues all the videos you find had. 9 tanks in. I'm building another ms660 right now with oem bearings
Love it as soon as you say you don't burn hardwood in the shop, the haters come out, but like you say "it what it is" and there sure is a time and place for softwoods even pine.
Just fixed 2 huskys (353 and 345) for small jobs! Your Videos realy helped me understanding how to do stuff!😎👍... not a carb tuning expert yet took me 1h to dial them in!
ive used them and they just seem abit flimsy. i wouldnt use them for treework but for a guy cuttin some firewood youd be fine. but if your workin em hard and trying to stump a 4 foot oak stump they can get messed up in a hurry. the weak spot i noticed was where the tip meets the bar. also a good choice to let a guy who hasnt cut as much use and not have to worry about a 200 dollar bar get bent by someone who doesnt know any better. my boss puts em on a few saws that the ground guys use because they are were always tearing bars up and he was tired of brand new stihl bars getting messed up by the ground guys by getting them pinched or hiting the dirt then trying to horse the bar and bend it cuz a dull chain and they get in a hurry. not as much of a problem as it was cause we quit letting guys run the bigger saws that didnt know what they were doing and let them use the joncutter 5800s which for the money are great litle saws in my opinion
That 268 is a beauty those bars and chains look very passable for the average firewood guy, definitely some qc issues but I think for just a cheap bar and chain for the average guy, or as a low cost option for project saws I dig 'em well enough.
I been running the archer bars and chains with pretty good success price is about the same the bars are tighter and stiffer just from watching the video the chain stretches some the first use but after that it's good for me I buy spools that way I can make my own loops it works for me because its 30 miles just to get a chain made up thanks for doing this because alot of us just cut our own firewood and we don't really need pro level bars and chains.
I noticed the last holtzforma chain I got was a different profile from the previous ones. It won't be just the chain stretch, the imperfections on the bar would be flattening out making less tension. The chains I find are good the bars are good for the price but a little soft. When you have a limited budget and too many saws to put bars on what are you going to do. Cheers Tinman
The initial bar wear is extra on those painted bars. So yeah the stretch is a bit exaggerated on a new bar and chain combo. Edit: the holtzforma bars are not painted but I meant painted bars in general.
Hi Tinman!!😀😀 Go back to the beginning of the video and look. You didn't have the chain very tight before you started. So I don't think the chain stretched that much for the first run. I've been running them and all the ones I have been using haven't stretched any more than any Oregon chain I have had. For the money I feel they are a great deal. Those chains are square ground from the factory. That's why they don't have much of a hook in them. When you are tightening the chain you need to hold up on the bar while adjusting the chain and tightening the bar and the chain will stay tight longer. Take care my friend!!😀😀 Logger Al
Man, I could go for some of that snow. Been stuck in Singapore since COVID kicked off and while I’m not ungrateful for permanent BBQ weather it’d be real nice to feel a cold wind on the face. I know this mainly about the bars and chains but that 268 is the star of the show - sounds good and raspy 👍🏻
Thank you. Very informative. Especially appreciated the comparison of the two saws and the way they behave for you. Also thanks for informing us of the flex on those Holzfforma bars. Take care.
Goodness sakes Tinman. Both those saws are just sweeeet. That 268 is probably the best starting saw I have seen , you have the touch brother. Great throttle response and still breaking in. Love the Ole 630 super man she's snappy. Great review on the Holz bars and chain. Lovin it. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
Tinman you absolutely need one of them pulp hooks, I welded my own and it works wonders, really makes the loading and unloading a pleasure instead of a chore
Really interesting. Especially the stretch. My first port was a 25cc certa (cheap chinese), it had a 10" bar and was great for pruning/small stuff, the initial stretch on the chain after about half a tank was amazing and I was thinking about checking chain stretch when it came off the bar and the catcher grabbed it. Amazing amount of stretch like this one (but much smaller). Good learning exercise. Nice video. Wish I was there to help.
Tinman I am on overload keep it up. The 268 I found on eBay runs ok could be better. But I think with what you are doing. I will get it right thanks for your help. Just gives me confidence.
Both saws sound good, but that 630 really screams. I appreciate you testing these bars/chains. I personally like the buy once, cry once method; I always buy the best bar/chain I can afford.
I ran some 3/8 LGX one time on a Homelite XL925 with a 32" bar and idk if it was just the low speed grunt of an XL925 or if Oregons steel wasn't that hard that day but it stretched so bad I had to adjust tension 3 times to get a face cut and back cut in a tree that was a little bigger than bar length haha
Hi Tinman. I strongly encourage you to run about ten tanks and then check the bar. My experience is that the steel is very soft and bar is trashed after what I would consider less than a year homeowner firewood usage. If you rarely use the big bar maybe that is ok. GB 32” bar for $72 seems like a better option to me.
I bought a holzforma for my little saw, works as I expected for an inexpensive bar and chain combo. For the price I cannot complain but I had low expectations to begin with. It does what it is intended to.
Wow, nice work on that power saw she start to come alive, but I think it still needs a better muffler mod on the give away, thanks on the bar and chain info. Alway be safe brother to you and your family and friends
I like to get cheap chains as a backup to an Oregon or Stihl, great to have with in case something happens. I also tend to put them on whenever I have to cut wood that's dirty or close to the ground. I'd rather cry over 10-15 euros instead of 30-35 for a 20" chain (I live in Greece). These long bars get me drooling, but they are tough to run on my 52cc....
I've been using these for awhile n a great option for me as the price is perfect..im hard on my equipment n these are easily replaceable..yea they stretch a bit but I do like their chain n they hold up decently well
In my experience the chain does eventually stop stretching, and they are an acceptable bar and chain for the average guy. They are worth what you pay for them.
Did the same job today! In a snowy, and cold Sweden! I used a 550XPG, and autotune works fine, but i want to be in control😀 The 268, really starts to wake up! Good test, by the way!
Gday mate. I love my pm 570. I like the look of them. How do you come up with numbers on this sort of saw that you’ve ported before. Bit of a guide from buckin?
Hi Tinman , cheers for all the good info ! Over here in uk the 357xp is a popular little saw could you do a idiots guide to porting one with a hyway head ? I’ve a few a would love to squeeze a few more beans out of it Many thanks James
Tinman that is a beautiful saw . Its nice to see how easy its starts up. Oh 1 last thing I never seen anyone load wood that fast sir , your an animal . Lol , take care sir
timing have you decked a cylinder head on a ported chainsaw w bigger piston and carb I seen buckin run 1 its very hot cutting big like butter 1127 2021
Most chains I've ever run have stretched like that out of the box. The question is if they are done stretching.... if so, then they are good value for money. If they stretch like that every time then they are a waste.
The holz bars do look good👍 so, first impressions are not looking too terrible for the price! I also agree with you about oregon exl having virtually no stretch, least in the 2 loops I've installed so far!
Excellent video as always. I put my 254 back together and it was running sweet but now it won't idle its reving high then trouble starting after watching you'r videos i think it's the crankshaft seals am i right or am i missing something ???
