So what I'm hearing is there's nothing stopping me from writing a distant isolated colony where the "humans" are just the Grineer. Bad copies of bad copies of bad copies degraded to hell being propped up entirely by what should be super soldier cybernetics. They make good antagonists and interesting allies
Star Wars: The Clone Army is morally questionable. Lancer: The Flesh Abomination Flash Clones yearn for the mines. We know because programed that yearning into them. Thanks for the video.
Ever since your Balor vid I've wanted to make a Lancer whose conscience was consumed by and integrated into a Balor unit but this info is omitted from his memory so he still thinks he's meat n potatoes. Unintentional/unwanted transhuman elevation through the unceasing hunger of a Hellfire Swarm.
Hey, that was my first idea while reading the Core Book as well. Person so entirely incapable of recognizing she's not a human being anymore, even if you cut her arm and point at the gray goo where tissue ought to be. "This isn't normal for a human being!" "Well it's normal for ME! Stop trying to freak me out!"
@@theATLASproject or even scarier the nanomachines have replicated the body so precisely that even cutting off an arm it's hard to tell until you reattach it and it seamlessly comes together like it was nothing at all
My character is from a family Dynasty of Harrison Armory Think-Tank Testers. It is always fun to just make up weird Cybernetics, biomodding and more he has.
I once made a character with an "ontological" birth defect for a friend. See, he had just become a new dad and had a crazy schedule so he was more likely to miss sessions that attend for the forseeable future. So, I made his character a Lich pilot "who technically did not exist as a countable noun." There was always "some Ted" around, and we were always happy when "a proponderance of Ted" could actually fight beside us. And thank's to the Lich's survivability, we got to make the "only mostly dead" joke from the Princess Bride almost constantly.
You skimmed very fast through it. But i feel its important to inform that the subjective years cosmopolitans can experience is insane, especially if they constantly travel around alot near the speed of light, since those cosmopolitans experience 1 of their subjective years to 10 real space years (the core book even references this). Given the opportunity for PC's to encounter human being over 1000 years of age in real time, which would be one hell of an interaction.
Well core worlders and cosmopolitans can live up to 300 years, if I remember correctly, so in theory you could meet someone 3000 years old real time (although 3000 years ago they probably couldn't, so the realistic max is 2000 years.
@@CharliMorganMusic -- It can actually be both. Cosmopolitans that board a ship for a six month trip can miss hundreds of years of history due to relativistic speed. And they have excellent medical care, can upload their minds into younger bodies or even become androids for a while.
Also, let's be honest, basically all of this also translated to "furries are cannon". I love my biopunk, but that's just kind of the reality that has to be accepted when you include it into things without immediately going full Geiger.
Heh, using augments to turn a Pilot into a Warframe would be funny, especially if the frame used is stronger than the chassis. - “Hey, we brought that Lancer down!” - “YOU FOOLS, THAT MECH WAS MY LIMITER!”
Imagine someone’s Body being on par with or better than an SSC Dusk Wing. “I kill mechs by myself.” “You must be an impressive Pilot.” “By myself” “Oh…” Edit: Also people have 1 hit point. Even a light Anti-Mech weapon is very much overkill against people.
Build a mech that's kind of junky, but has the ejection system that is a smaller mech of size 1/2. Then kit that smaller one out to the max. For bonus fun: Describe the size 1-3 mech as seemingly heavily armored, but many of it's vital components are facing outwards instead of inwards, especially when it comes to the cockpit. Use a little remote to do things when not in your mech. Wait until something manages to down the mech and you eject from it. As the smaller inner mech ripping it's way free, starting from a weakness from the damage the enemy did. Complete with ripping the gun free of it's mounting to use for yourself, if you have the same weapon on both. (IIRC that 1/2 suit has one main mounting.)
this is an optional mechanic in daemon x machina! you have the secondary war machine (your arsenal) and when that's totaled you use the primary one i.e YOU.
"The Company provided really comprehensive insurance." "So what, full medical?-" [glances at the very in your face cyberntics] "-Considering the results I think you got screwed over." "Debt insurance is how I got here actually." "How do you ensure against debt?" "Well their logic was pretty simple: The Company invested in training a pilot, a pilot is a control component of a mech. They wanted to get their resources worth, and if you can't win by skill, then you need bigger numbers." "Bigger numbers." "The Company was ultimately ran by spreadsheets, things like 'reaction speed' are a lot easier to quantify than 'good judgement'. Easier to just 'solve the wetware problem' than find the right way to train someone." "Why all the biosculpt for cuteness then?" "Marketing. I asked about it sarcastically, but the marketing guy made some really good points. I kept the longer hair because I liked it."
"That other fourth thing" Zaktact, why are you so afraid of RA? Why do you fear it more than normal? HOW DID YOU GET THE ATTENTION OF RA WHAT DID YOU DO?!
I must make a almost 500 year old dude, who basically uses his Mech Chassie as extra life support, and go full on "Entombed Space Marine" vibes. Either a Ganghis or Drake unit. Either that, or be a "young" 60 year old guy chilling in his fancy Knight-themed mecha looking for adventure.
My first Lancer was an advanced HA flash clone, or a "slow flash" clone, rather. The idea being that they "take their time" hammering out the kinks and they don't grow them quite as fast or sloppy. They take care in their upbringing and social training to ensure the best assassins they can churn out in a reasonable pace, as a long term investment. On a mission in his backstory, J-27 got a taste of freedom, family, and love while integrating into the network of a rebellion run by his new gf's dad. Things went sideways, mission accomplished since gf's dad exploded regardless, and J-27 was assumed kia. Now he's got a new lease on life and is trying to figure out what normal people do with all this free time, other than fight in giant robots that is.
My lancer was born on a core world but when she grew up and saw the chaos that was going on in the orian arm she got out there into cosmopolitan space to use her medical training where it was needed SSC ended up hiring her to a space port that offered full repairs for lancers (both in mech and body) she was of course hired for her excellent medical talent ~~and rare metropolitan genetics~~ I ended up using one of the base character arts from the book who has a cybernetic arm And i feel she fits the example you gave in the video of modified arms and eyes for more precise surgery Anyway she eventually became well known enough among the lancers of the station that SSC sponsored her with an orchis to become a lancer herself she wears the stations crest on her sheild (a kitsune fox) Becoming Callsign: DOC (i know very original for my first character)
My favourite character idea for Lancer is Cybrids and Bioderms from the Metaltech franchise -- If it's possible to upload minds to and from different bodies, then it should be elementary that an entire mind could be built neuron-by-neuron from scratch and installed in a fully organic body, a cyborg, an android, or a mech. The idea of a character with zero existial angest about being military surplus just amuses me for some reason. "Dave, my brain is an SSD in a titanium case. Just stomp open my head and plug the yellow cable into the serial port in my mech. I'll be fine."
"My gift to industry is the genetically engineered worker, or Genejack. Specially designed for labor, the Genejack's muscles and nerves are ideal for his task, and the cerebral cortex has been atrophied so that he can desire nothing except to perform his duties. Tyranny, you say? How can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel pain?" - Chairman Shen-ji Yang - - Essays on Mind and Matter (Sid Meyer's Alpha Centauri)
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
@@camramaster come to think of it, since RA tends to operate through machines but forbid the use of decorp, adherents of ra could reasonably come the conclusion that replacing everything but their brain brings them closer to Ra without violating ra's wishes; A literal techpriest is not only possible but probable.
I have a character that’s a brain and heart in a jar. He got it because HA made a mistake and he has a family connection to SSC. So he has a custom made Robot body.
oh my god same! I had a character that was literally just a brain in a robot body, and was looking to find the "right" body for them. nothing really fit for them, because SPOILERS they were actually an egregorian brain-pattern copied onto a blank human brain!
I took Technophile and made my pilot a super soldier from an experimental program that cloned him from the genetic make up of a few select soldiers and researchers, while at the same time they were trying to craft a new nhp to grow along with him built from coding and programs of other NHPs and AIs they had in their R&D department. Ra made an appearance and shut down the program and very few of the resulting clones were left alive but the ones that survived had cybernetic implants with the nhp inside of them. The mech he is running is being built up to be a hydra and run a bunch of drones and nexus weapons as well as having two NHPs. Dropping drones with 15 hp and just taking over entire zones with nexus and turrets and barricades. William Black and his mech Black Cloud.
So furries are canon in Lancer? Epic Edit: I will now take the trope of suspiciously wealthy furries and add it to some Smith-Shimano Corporation plot.
as a furry, _yesssss._ this is perfect. do it do it do it. suspiciously wealthy furries exist, and despite the fur they can still fall victim to human flaws and human vices - a fact many in reality ought to be aware of if they aren't already.
@@LexYeen SSC Mercenary Foxgirl; her mech's got an audio HUD in additional to a regular one, to take advantage of her directional ears. I'm not sure what the tail would do.
@@Attaxalotl Additional precision aiming for a rear facing weapon. She's got a kinesthetic sense of where her tail is at all times that is just begging to be used. Alternatively, have a built in gimbal turret and the tail is used for that, would take more training but if you've got the limb, you might as well use it. Given SSC's whole 'made specifically for this one person in a bespoke manner' not doing something with the tail would be anathema to them.
One of those levels of extreme with subcultures that I think about is that furries can literally become their sona in Lancer. Sure, the DM can just rule that other species exist alongside humans in their version of the lore, but in lore, a human can change themselves to their fursona with modifications.
im getting whiplash from the fact i can do techpriest to possibly furrydom to a combo of both as a possibility i think my spine just got powderized from this possibility. like Shure its proably a risky expensive thing BUT furries... there's a will there SHALL BE DONE with a way.
the furry fandom existed before the internet, do you _really_ think we wouldn't be on the omninet? where did you think the catgirl variant of the blackbeard came from? some weeb?
@@user-kt4to5xs9lcomrade, the furry fandom is probably older than you, and the mere _concept_ of anthropomorphism is as old as _history itself._ to deny this history is to deny your own humanity.
@@LexYeen from the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh it disgusted me. Being a furry is up to them. I just had bad experiences with furries. So I’ll keep my guard up. Got to make sure they are just furries and not space wolves
The cloning and mind imprinting really remind me of the Devoured Worlds Trilogy by Megan E O’Keefe. Where body printing and consciousness uploading is pretty common but also up to a point
My character figured out how to basically make a human version of Egregorian adaptability and implanted it into himself and now he can evolve like them (if he survives the hard situations that trigger the evolutions of course).
My first idea for a Lancer character was a ship crew member dealing with subjective time issues. Relativistic effects mean you have about a ten to one ratio of passage, So basically he would stop at a planet every few years and meet the adult grandchildren of those he met on the last visit. In turn he ran into this existential crisis of how nobody tells their kids about this one random guy you saw for three days at a space port, and thus he was a living ghost whom no one knew aside from others on the crew. After an accident kills a few of his friends, he became a mech pilot to build a legend so that there would actually people who remember him. (And as a bit of humor, his name was Locke, so he called his mech "keymaster". If I ever actually play Lancer, chances are he'll end up with a Horus Lich for even more time tom-foolery)
I’m going to put a storage container in my characters Thigh or Calves to hold a compact PDW as a last resort item. “You took all of my weapons? Well I still have my compact Thigh Machine Gun so have fun with that.”
... Well, all that excess Mana income from Lancering across multiple lives had to go somewhere, eh? [ *Suspiciously Wealthy SSC Investor Intensifies* ] >)X^D
Be a furry in 5016u, meet Black Templars-like HA company with Genghis mechs.... Union adds a new bullet point to its "Things HA is not allowed to do" documents
I once played a lancer that used to be a journeyman gladiatorial derby pilot. They piloted a modified Charrioteer frame, and with most derbies they'd lose a piece of themselves, eventually leading to them being an android with only their brain left as organic matter. I only got to play them once because scheduling decided to rear its bastard head. I didn't get much of a chance to do any in-character role-playing either, but it was a fun time.
@@raipe125 Basically think Furry, but with scales instead of fur. You know, reptiles such as dragons, dinosaurs, chameleons, tortoises, etc, possibly also fish? Though I'm admittedly a wee bit unsure about that last one...
A robonihilist integrated with a Barbarossa sounds like a mix of ammusing and scary (and well, someone literally integrating with Balor sounds... like a norm) And well, as someone looking to play Lancer- I thought of playing a guy who has a "black box" and set of jurnals to pass on to their either clone or cyborg, taking quite a lot of inspirations from Exos in Destiny 2 and cycles of Morgan Yu in Pray 2016 And well.... you are giving me more ideas to have another character working like that Tabernacle mech drawn by Keith Thompson (tldr: quadruplegic integrated within a mechsuit) or outright making a fkin CRAVER (because I like their design, and having four arms, plus I like the ammount of Craver images you used here)
Great breakdown, loved it... Also makes me think a campaign set in the post-apocalyptic universe that this technology will inevitably usher in would be pretty cool.
Ironically my own mecha-pilot OC, a cyborg catgirl... after watching this video I don't think she'd be able to be imported to Lancer. Short version is she received a near-total cyborg conversion at about the age of 5 (social/economic issues meant her parents had to take a hard bargain to get her medical care at all). Between frequent surgeries to replace cybernetics she's outgrown, the absolute thorough nature of said cybernetics, and being ostracized by her peers for being "a talking calculator", she becomes quite desperate for the validation of her humanity. Validation eventually she find in the cockpit of a mech as a "gladiator," fighting for the entertainment of others and signing autographs from fans. Just... it sounds like cybernetics in Lancer are a bit too commonplace for her to be picked on by her classmates, and genetic modifications too commonplace for such an extreme medical regimen necessary.
One of the fantastic things about the Diaspora is it's many, many, many, many, many..................many worlds. All of which can range widely from each other. On a union Core World the character might be unlikely, but a Diasporan? Works totally fine. Core worlds are were cybernetics are super casual and pervasive, Diasporan they can be as well or extremely rare, loved or hated, new or old. Diasporan worlds are the settings fill in the blank on the galactic map.
Working on one of my goofier lancer characters: Artillery IdolFord aka that time HA’s Think-Tank decided that it was an interesting idea to use their super soldier program to genetically create a corporate idol to rival those of SSC.
If you haven't decided to already, I think you should consider doing a quick overview of the GMS stuff. I guess it might come up with Everest in this series? But I feel you should maybe do it... Earlier? Because the quicker people can get a quick video for all of the stuff at the start of getting into the system, the better. It's not like it fits into the four companies you have up there, as you go through the list, and it's technically not really going alphabetically, so I don't entirely know where it'd fit in as the list goes on... I just think it'd be nice for players to be able to have a nice video for their very first session, before they get any license levels. And I just want to hear you talk about the Cyclone rifle.
The genetic engineering and cybernetics reminds me of Knights of Sidonia. While I think only one character has cybernetics (an arm and a leg,) the genetic engineering and bio-tech is very common and can get pretty wild at times. It's an interesting look at long-term (1000+ years) travel on a generation ship.
Dang you just gave me an idea for a Penal Colonist character "Prisoner, today....you go Free...but freedom has a high cost. You will carry your prison with you"
If i was ever gona make a character in this game it would be about a jail broken construct (cyborg with no rights) trying to survive and figure out its self and place in the universe (basically if you read the murderbot diaries you get the vibe)
one of the lancer campaigns ive played in was mostly about the illegal flash clome trade, the pcs were all (through various means) being sold by a black market body broker to people who are now making them do various missions for ambiguous reasons my character probably has it among the worst, being not really a proper person but a flash clone being stored by someone else as a "backup" that accidentally got woken up during a serious power outage at the facility, and as a result having a pretty messed up subjectivity imprint held together mostly by the nhp she's constantly bridged with (an idea inspired by the weird lore from long rim about horizon figuring out how to have non-insane unshackled nhps by bridging them woth two people)
Absolutely love this vid. It makes me think of the game Negative Atmosphere and now I want to run dead space with Mecha 🤩 Thanks for another really awesome vid Zack 🙏😃
Looking to play a game sometime in the next few months. Seems like the idea for the game is that we're all gonna be on a joint venture from different factions to find something. Had an idea for a character that was a left over from the scientists on Demios during the event and was picked up by SSC. Who had made them into esentially a living NHP casket but is completely unware of any of that and just believes they are a long time agent for SSC dealing mostly in Cyber Security. Will definitely be using this video as a reference for some of the mods that SSC slapped into them.
Now, I had a kind of an interesting Lancer. Because he did get decorped, but it was not a "true" decorp, since the continuity was not held, and thus on the other side was a complete mess of inhuman. After a long process of rebuilding he ended up as a gestalt consciousness of a subjectivity-overridden clone and two NHPs you usually get from talents. Plsying that was... An experience hard to forget, since there was also a Lich licence, and they can hack time flow ten thousand ways and then some. And then there was DIDYMOS... Thank RA ir was play-by-post textual RP, because you can't voice DIDYMOS properly. Because that NHP was talking in two voices two different lines at the same time. And I had to build his sentences that both reading each line and alternating phrases made sense.
Just had the idea to use some sort of octopus DNA to make a shape-shifting mod. Haven't played yet so idk if this exists bust since octopus dna can alter itself you could probably put it in scifi as future tech figured out how to use this. I'm thinking tentacles can can shift into various limbs.
Hey sweet, a video very relevant to my current Lancer! She's a flash cloned super soldier from a region that is still fighting Union's, well, Union. Heavily SecCom influenced. Been fun playing her problems and expected lifespan compared to everyone else. (❁´◡`❁)
"Hey GM, can my Lancer's signature weapon be cyberware?" "...You picked an anti-materiel weapon, but okay, where is it?" "Behind my faceplate. It's my head cannon."
My PC started the campaign waking up in his (illegal) flash-clone backup after a botched Albatross job, only to discover that no actually, they accidentally mixed up the bodies and he's running around with the wrong face. (He hasn't realized yet who's face it is: one of Harrison's nephews)
At sixty, I am certain that I could never have properly "played" a sixty year-old when I was twenty-five. Player "age" may matter in their possessions/talents/knowledge, but I would get really unconfortable being in a room with a twenty-something trying to be a thousand year-old super-wise being. That just can't go well, and it puts all the players in an awkward spot unless you're all playing it for camp (by Vektron!).
Im surprised there isnt a bio-titan type deal, with all this. Well, im not *surprised* that there isnt a corp selling them, more so that Horus hasnt spat any out yet.
What if, you just flash-cloned the brain and spinal cord of a human. And then integrated it into a robot shell? That would be cutting down on just, needing an entire human body.
It is actually mentioned that some of the androidists are just that. A brain and spine in a robotic body. Definitely a fun narrative question as to why that isn't the default case.
HORUS also has a *very* nasty type of Cloning. *Paracausal* Subjectivity Override. After all, why stop at simply overriding the mental faculties of that Homonculus? You've got the *literal* essence of a person you could stick on there. The *Parasubjectivity* of a Person. Why simply clone the original when you can *drag the original kicking and screaming to that new body, whether they like it or not?*
