Timestamps ⏱ and Glueboy's video! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H0q_rhzrJsg.html 0:00 Intro 1:31 Audio Warning 1:55 Design Breakdown The Vlad 5:34 Design Analysis The Vlad 7:55 Design vs Lore The Vlad 14:49 Redesign The Vlad 8:56 Design Breakdown Black Witch 23:16 Design Analysis Black Witch 25:11 Design vs Lore Black Witch 29:19 Redesign Black Witch 32:05 Final Notes Black Witch 32:49 Design Breakdown Hydra 35:23 Design Analysis Hydra 37:42 Design vs Lore Hydra 44:52 Design Breakdown Sunzi 47:38 Design Analysis Sunzi 49:19 Design vs Lore Sunzi 55:25 Redesign/ Final notes Sunzi 58:24 Outro 58:57 End Credit Joke Note: Since this all being done before the release Glueboy's video won't be available to watch until the official release of this video. Please go ahead and watch his video as well please!!! He was very kind, giving himself fully and his time to this project infact that was going to be on our channel the only reason we changed our minds is because we stuffed our audio (somehow!!!) and we thought it would be unfair to inflict that on his channel. Please give him a watch I am sure you will enjoy it!
At the moment it's one our least successful videos, and we are hoping we can turn that around with help from people like you. If you could please share this with people who might like this sort of thing, we can hopefully do this again. AND please, please, please check out the video of our collaborator without them this video wouldn't be possible - Cal Edit: I meant to say wouldn't but I said would
Hey Netter! great to see you here, yes it took me a whole week to get this done with long nights but I had a lot of fun with the memes and finding art for this. Most time that's why I look forward to design vs lore videos because of getting to look for really awesome art to show you guys aside from of course breaking down the design elements ~Sunny
one feature on the blackwitch I don't think was mentioned is the cables on the torso resemble shibiri, japanese rope bondage which could indicate that this mech's pilots submit to the rich important barons which they serve the man catcher is also the "ferrous lash" from LL1 of the licence, those ringsI think are I think added to other frames and then black witch can more easily control them
I love Lancer and this was an amazing video! Now I really want a sequel because theres so many awesome and varied mechs to talk about! The Pegasus is a particular favoruite of mine. Not to mention it has a thriving homebrew community with personal mechs, lore and even custom manufacturers!
Well as I said in another comment, currently this is one our least successful videos but hopefully with the help of people like you we can change that. If you could please share this with people who you think may like this sort of thing it might start shooting it infront of people who like this sort of thing. And if you could please check our collaborators video, we would be eternally thankful because without them this video never happens - Cal
@@Kiyokoghurt Not as niche as some people may think it was the fastest selling RPG ever, and it's reddit is in the top 3% of all Reddits so its not doing too badly. But you are right in that 40k is starting to become mainstream as much as Star Wars or Marvel But thank you very much for sharing it, the algorithm counts that more highly than anything else anyone can do, higher than 100 comments or anything else, it 100% makes a difference so once again thank you- Cal
Hey everyone! Like we mentioned the other video we did is over on my channel! This was a blast to make and if you want some more fun tabletop in your life like Lancer, 40k, Vampire the Masquerade, or Pathfinder 2e come swing on by! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H0q_rhzrJsg.htmlsi=0j2sKIKdZrz_eo_c
Great episode guys, hope it does well for you. I have no interest in lancer mechs, but I found the discussion around the expectations for a unit based on the design vs the actual in game/lore use really interesting. Hope you get to do more of these in future.
Thank you very much, but currently at the moment this is one of our least successful videos however we are hoping to change that with people like you. If you can share this with people who enjoy this sort of content hopefully we can kick this video up a notch and it will get in front of the right people. And hopefully it will go up from there and we can do more content like this - Cal
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow I can imagine, smaller TtRPGs can really struggle to get any content going because well, you’re talking about a niche segment of a niche hobby. But shout out to y’all for taking the time to work with LANCER, it’s the only way for it to get in front of more people and I really enjoyed your thoughts on the Mechs presented! I hope the video’s performance doesn’t discourage y’all from exploring other more niche designs in the future. It’s something that drew me to the channel that while y’all do talk about Warhammer a lot, it’s not the only thing.
I’ve always thought the metal rings on the Black Witch fit well with the magnetic abilities. I kind of like the non-standard design for its “gun” too, definitely gives it a caster vibe.
i would love more of this, in my opinion some of the best lore/design synced mechs would be the 0.5 sized ones with napoleon as an exception, definietely would love more of such breakdowns of lancer and its designs.
Unfortunately this wasn't very successful and we don't know that much about the setting so we would have to collaborate again with someone or put in a lot of research and we just don't have the time for the research it deserves 😞 - Cal
Thanks so much for subscribing! It's one of our least successful videos, let's hope that turns around in the next few days. But we haven't given up on trying new things yet ~Sunny
Now I know how it feels to watch your videos to people who don't know anything about warhammer but watch your videos lol. It's still hella interesting. Sorta like what archeologists do when they find some ancient artifacts and try to figure out what the culture of the ancient people was like. While also having someone who timetraveled from that time to actually explain that stuff. Also I've been with warhammer for at least 15 years now, gotta look at other stuff too
I couldn't help but laugh at your explanation 😂 it's so oddly specific but also makes perfect sense WAYPN Archaeologists: this jug was likely use to store wine and ferment things Time traveller: it was a pee jug ~Sunny
What a good video, very entertaining. Also nice to be introduced to a cool mech game. Shame RU-vid never notified me and I found out about this later through a community post. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lancer is my jam, and I loved hearing your opinions on those mechs! Honestly, I would love to hear what you think about the 4 "main" mechs from the 4 manufacturers: Tortuga Monarch Goblin & Sherman Although I love ALL the mechs the Lancer team crafted, it is so incredibly awesome.
Those are definitely the best mainline mechs of each. I had 2 ideas going into this in my mech picks. 1st, I was asked to pick mechs that I didn't use in my Lancer overview video to ensure there was real design vs lore blindness. And 2nd, the mechs here help introduce base world concepts! Vlad for non standard mech design, Black Witch for setting factions, Hydra for RA and Deimos, and Sunzi for FTL/Blinkspace.
@@glueboy Oh I loved the choices, especially the Hydra, which has cemented further my love for Horus, I am just stoked for even more of these analysis!
@glueboy forgot to mention the best part of the Hydra...The Hydra OS/AI sometimes forgets it has a pilot and detaches the "cockpit" to use as a drone ripping the pilot apart. :D
Good video overall, but if you'll permit me to☝🤓 Uhhmm ackhtually a few things because I'm a pedant who can't handle the idea of people not being perfectly accurate at all times: I'm pretty sure the gun in Vlad's art is the Impaler Nailgun, which immobilizes opponents on a failed save. black witch has ONE line in its description which mentions gravity manipulation, nothing in the actual license references this, it's all magnets. The staff looking like a mancatcher is *definitely* intentional given how Black Witch's whole thing is locking down opponents. If it's not supposed to be that, then it's almost certainly a Monk's Spade (Alternatively, Crescent Moon Spade). If I had to tell you what it does, I'd say it's what that Witch uses for its Mag Parry trait. Black witch is also not exactly fragile, with innate 1 armor, resistance to kinetic damage, and tools to protect it against tech attacks. It wouldn't have a *good* time against vlad, but vlad wouldn't have a good time either. It's not beefy either, 6hp is still very little and you still take full damage from anything that isn't kinetic. RA isn't AI, and honestly "eldritch math" isn't the best descriptor, it's a bit fuzzier than that. Unfortunately, Sunzi is size 1, so legally not a dwarf :( I hope this got mentioned off camera at least because I love it, Sunzi's lore is that it uses hand-motions to control its blinkspace abilities (probably why they used a napoleon, so you can do the motions and still have a gun). So less ATLA and more Naruto. Again, good video. I hope I didn't come off as harsh, annoying, or nitpicky, proper phrasing isn't my strong suit. Design analysis videos are very interesting to me, doubly so given that I'm currently learning how to draw. It's nice to see the more unspoken things brought to the forefront and examined.
A lot of this game's art straight up doesn't fit its lore, and a lot of its lore also communicates some extremely mixed messages. The art direction must have been very "hands off" when producing the art for this game because if you put all the pictures and paintings within the core rule-book's pages next to each-other, you might not be able to tell this all comes from the same intellectual property. There are black and white very comic-booky art pieces reminiscent of early Judge Dredd panels printed next to manga-inspired art that would fit inside the pages of Gundam or Neon Genesis Evangelion, and those are next to amateurish character portraits made by people who can't even color within the lines who wouldn't feel out of place if they were magnetized on a fridge somewhere next to a little kid's drawings. Then there are also highly detailed technical schematic drawings placed next to surreal pencil drawings that make less sense the more you look at them, next to breath-taking impressionistic vistas of alien worlds, its ALL over the place. Some of the robots are in fact giant robots but there are also many that are just slightly taller than a regular person and are more like an Iron-man suit, but you can't tell just by looking at the art for them because a lot of the pictures do not properly communicate size. Some of the mechs are properly large and look futuristic while others just look like they're fantasy medieval characters or alien monsters made of metal or like the cowboy you mentioned, there is a robot that looks like a werewolf with two heads, yellow teeth a tail and it has claws...Is it a robot or an armored Animal?! Some mechs look massive and well built for combat while others look like a strong gust of wind might blow them down and in many cases their statistics DO NOT reflect their look. The game's art direction suffers from a lack of a unified vision. In fact if you look at the credits for the book you'll notice there was no Art Director. The Artists had no supervision, there was like 20 of them, all doing their own thing and then the poor book's editor had to put all these disparate visions in one product. I know I should not judge a book by its cover, but in the case of LANCER the book is done a huge disservice by its lack of art direction.
I'd like to also add that my opinion of LANCER is not good. I had a "friend" who would take every opportunity to quote the lore to me and insert it into random conversations and none of it made sense. He described a post-scarcity socialist utopia in one breath and in the next he would tell me about how people were oppressed by corporations and there is terrorism, space-pirates and evil religious cults. The art meanwhile shows both peaceful space-colonial life on alien planets and a couple of pages later there are images of dead soldiers being stepped on by machines and huge Titans looming in the background, that looks like something out of Warhammer 40k. In one conversation he would tell me that the giant robots were free-thinking A.I. who had the status of being sentient on the same level as humans, and later he told me that the A.I. were not free thinking and were in fact "chained" and each time an A.I. would become "unchained" it would go rogue. When I pointed out that that's literally slavery he'd say "no, because when the A.I.s are chained they are happy to follow orders", my brother in Christ its called "chained" as in "in chains" you know, like a person held against their will. He also said that "there are no aliens in this sci-fi setting" but then he would show me the robots that are made by outsider entities and also there is a literal campaign where you fight aliens. The dude would contradict himself constantly which makes me think that either the Lore of the Game contradicts itself constantly, or this man was an idiot who did not understand what he was reading. Either way it put me off playing the game forever because he wasn't a very good friend at all. I don't even know if Lancer is a good game or not, I just don't even want to look into it because this guy was a fan and he's an idiot and an asshole. Imagine if your entire idea of what football is came from a hooligan with no charisma.
