Cyberpunk 2077 Ray Tracing Overdrive ON vs OFF 

atleast it runs better than TLOU

*Totally worsen it.

You sure that fire isn't inside your case?

@@hip_check The fire is inside my eyes, watching the poor 4090 break down so hard in fps

FR, the only time my gpu has hit over 70c

I can see cyberpunk looking as good as games a decade newer

Think it's more R&D of CDPR. Not even 4090 can run this at max. And 5000 is not coming soon. No point here.

​@@berkertaskirannot true. 4090 cant handle it In 4k this is undestable. My RTX4070TI can easily run it on Full HD

@@michterion I don't understand what you're saying but at 4K, RT Overdrive, DLSS and FG off, 4090 gets 21 fps average. Even at 1440p it gets 45 fps average. And at 4K DLSS Quality it gets 42. Even balanced gets an average 52 fps.

@@berkertaskiran nvidia is distorting shit with FG; i mean yes improves gaming in titles with terrible FPS but is not actual GPU performance

I also noticed that, but in the environment it doesn't look so different. The thing is, it is worth the HW consumption vs RT Psycho? I mean, RT is really expensive but PT is ridiculous... 40% less FPS just for a couple of shadows in characters? Maybe worth only for photo mode.

@@WeisserAllan Have you seen how it looks at night and indoors? It's a pretty massive difference. And it also replaces nearly all of those rasterized lighting with real-time global illumination, that means objects cast accurate shadows, the world gets accurate lighting, and most importantly, bounce lighting which is by far the most noticeable thing other than reflections.

@@user-le2hu1ct4t Path Tracing for this game is only a preview...so performance isn't at it's best. Also, the reason why the difference is marginal in some areas is because it goes to show how good the devs and artist predicted the look of Cyberpunk.

@@user-le2hu1ct4t UE5's Global Illumination aka Lumen is not cutting edge like Path Tracing but it's convincing enough that most people probably can't really tell between the two and most of them would prefer Lumen because it's way less intensive and gets the job done. I don't see the Cyberpunk Path Tracing update as a preview of future games in terms of performance, the visuals on the other hand...is guaranteed. I expect companies will find a way to have superb visuals with complex simulations while being less intensive than they are now...the only game engine that can provide that for now is probably UE5.

Psyco vs overdrive

It’s using some sort of Path Tracing or what CD call it “full ray tracing”. So that means they have multiple light bounce and much more higher res and accurate reflections, also, this enable shadows to be much more accurate and correct. This Overdrive mode really changes the look of nearly every scene in the game, you will definitely notice the change on character models, indoor areas that have multiple lights and etc. Go watch Digital Foundry as they made a better job showcasing the huge difference it actually makes.

@@CasualG-mer sure, I’ll check it out. I have high hopes, but it just wasn’t shown off well in this video

😂

ok but this is raw performance, with dlss it would be fine digital foundry made a second video

@@ChaddingAroundYT raw overdrive in 4k with 4090 is 16fps.

That's why RTX 4090 shelves were out on the very first day, Nexus Hardware is using intel core I7 10th with DRR4 Ram lol such a joke no wonder why, with everything MAXED out and Path Tracing I'm getting 100+ fps with RTX 4090 and intel core I9 13900k and DDR5 6000mhz with FSR2 Quality which has the highest crispiness and realism even than Native resolution thanks to the Technology and Open AI sourced futuristic Frame Generation which literally has no more artifacts thanks to the recent Update

4090 with DLSS3 Frame gen gives 100+ fps average on 4k Ultra RT Psycho Overdrive

Wise choice

Agreed... sell our kidney instead.

but u can play in 1080p or 1440p, so u would have a much smoother experience

​@@AlienGurke I would still wait for at least 2 generations for overdrive to actually be playable

​@@AlienGurke im getting 120fps locked at 1440p dlss 3 + dlss 2 balanced with path tracing

To my eyes.. lcd screens can still be very accurate and beautiful. However I believe that the difference in lcd and a oled is FARR more noticable than rt and this overdrive. To say it's not worth the performance his is stupid. RT ultra is not worth the performance hit from high much less this insane overdrive.

I have a 4090, and it runs just fine with maxed out everything including path tracing. You have to use DLSS though, and frame generation smoothes out things significantly.

yes and no - the difference on benchmarks is really small BUT the feeling of immersion is realy huge. I played it for some hours and must say that it is difficult to say why I have a feeling of real world - seeing a simple difference between on and off but is there !

I too bought this game practically at d1, but with a 3070 I couldn't fully enjoy it, so after 6 hours I closed the game to postpone it... Now that I've got the 4090, I'm waiting to upgrade the processor to a 7800x3d (now i have a 11700, not good for this performance target) , and i will play it in 4k with overdrive and frame generator... It's really a pity to play this game with not top hardware, especially if you are planning to buy high level hardware, it's definitely worth the wait!

If the 4090 gets 16fps at native 4K, 5090 would get around 26fps, 6090 around 40fps, and 7090 finally 65fps. I calculated it based on average performance difference between 2080ti, 3090 and 4090

No, he just did a benchmark to compare.

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I see almost no difference in visuals, this is a joke considering performance hit

​@@Rivexd You're 100% blind then 😂

@@JagsP95 It looks like it could be achieved by some reshade preset....

​@@SimonMedia666 Holy christ thats a reach

Yes, be cause this is more visible inside the buildings and at night.

true, its always been theirs, but as for now the perf isnt lining though mine is fine haha

i guess you run everything on the very lowest settings then huh?

@@johnniewalker3134 no, that's not necessary at all. it's enough for me if i have +100 fps. in the best case i have a constant 144 fps.

@@DerBaerserker and why do you need 144 fps in a singleplayer game?

The performance cost is worth it for me i mean come one this is fkn real-time path tracing which isn't possible until the 40-series came out and real time ray tracing isn't even possible till rtx 20 series came out.

You’re missing out on the future

@@ytv6770 Not missing out on anything, I can run it and have tried it and while it looks amazing, I would rather 100+ FPS with Psycho RT than a lower FPS experience with artifacting etc as DLSS has to upscale so hard

@@MaTtRoSiTy You can enable DLSS balanced + frame generation (if you're at 4K) and you'll have a 95+ FPS experience. Besides, the performance hit between psycho RT and overdrive isn't really that much

What do you do for a living?

Dlss is frame generation

@@Phat_trick910 No, Quality DLSS Setting is Super Resolution. You can choose DLSS Frame Generation with and without DLSS Super Resolution. Without drops the FPS visible.

I think I only rarely drop below 60 at 1440p it's usually more like 70-80. But I prefer balanced since it never drops below 60 and is in-between 70-90 most of the time (4070ti,7600x)

So i got a 4090 and a ryzen 7 7800x3d and everything is super fine -> 150FPS with rt, and the new thing which was implemented yesterday (11.4) with update 1.6.2

what's the frametime like?

4080 with 1080p monitor is the way to go

I really do not get the negativity seems to be an ego problem to not be able to run a setting. This is great for further development it doesn't reset everything it's build on top of it. Graphical development has always been faster than the hardware to support it. This is nothing new its just another Crysis basically a tech demo of what will be possible in the future.

Bro nobody is forcing you to run games with path tracing, its a technical demo at best 💀💀

You can just disable it. The tech will improve eventually, its better start somewhere.

60+ fps at 4k with dlss performance mode and frame gen on the 4080. See benchmarks before talking trash to get likes. Dlss works amazing in this game, 1080p upscaled 4k using dlss looks better than 1440p native.

Despite the bugs at launch (which now are mostly gone) this game is beautiful

Just wait and see whet they gonna come up with on UE5 🤯

@@Mtrix3345 People will cry in the corner because they cannot launch new games with their 10 year old ancient hardware. They actually claim that the gtx 1080 is a decent card. No its not. Its ancient now. Absoilutly outdated and they should be thankful to run modern games with minimum settings.

@@SaithMasu12 You sir are 100% correct. On the other hand, trends on GPU market are not promising, and its the costumers fault mostly..

go 1080p

or use dlss quality

😂😝 I love my RTX 4090 but I'll play at only 1080p with all max except motion blur disabled because new overdrive (pathtracing) is too heavy but I will get solid 60fps + vsync enabled at 60Hz monitor despite hyperrealism. 😍😁😛

The one on the left is Psycho ray tracing. Not vanilla.

Not every anime is cringe

This what I am saying. Sure.. one day games will be built from the ground up with RT in mine and the RT will look far better than the raster. This is not because raster can't look just as good.. it will come down to the devs designing it to look better on RT. We all be fine and hardly be missing anything at all if RT was not a thing and we just kept designing games to look good with raster. Cp ultra vs RT psycho is hardly noticeable. You would be much better off keeping your 3060 and buying a better monitor to play it on that getting a 4090 to run this crap. 100%

that sucks

Bruh my 2080 n R5 5500 was hitting 80+ with that settings

You can wait little bit and sell ur card and buy a 4060 😅 it’s amazing jump from 2060 to 4060 and u have dass 3 😊

Video or in my pc, looks the same.

I agree, that's not even how puddles work

Yeah every thing looks wet and polished, so fake thats not how buildings are in real life.

But without overdrive the puddles look like they have vaseline smeared over.

Not quite. It's immediately recognizable as rendered. At no point would someone go, "wait, is this real world or computer generated?"

Why don't you shut your ignorant mouth? With frame gen and dlls quality, you play this graphics at 1440P 80FPS... Just test by yourself and don't speak when you don't know.

Shouldve gotten the cheaper 2080 ti instead. It's a better overall product with great memory and oc. Or chosen the superior amd products

@moon I chose the rtx 3070 because the newer generation of Tensor cores and rt cores and it has the same performance in gaming of rtx 2080ti the only downside is the vram but even in hogwarts legacy 1440p ultra I didn't face any drops because of vram its stable just make sure you have 32gb of ram for newer games, I can't ever choose amd cards Bad latency bad drivers a nightmare ray tracing performance even rx 6800xt ray tracing can't compete with rtx 3060 ti and fsr is much worse than dlss and not supported in many games like dlss , Nvidia is the only one in the market right now and that's scary I hope amd and intel take the gpu market seriously because if Nvidia feels no one can compete the rtx prices going to be a hell of nightmare and we saw that in the 4000 series

10GB VRAM is not enough if you play with RT overdrive

@@adamadamx5464 I have 12 GB

Turn it off

I wouldn't worry. You're just seeing the path tracing in action. I actually like the look. Like water running down things. It's just not fully optimised for your 30 card. Hopefully you can put up with it.

@@exert2020 Thanks for the answer!

On always better.

RTX is supposed to simulate in real time traced rays they way i our real eyes see light in specific conditions, its looks that way on purpose its buy design. trust me its supposed to be better looking.

Exactly

wake up dude 😂

Why would you want 240 fps when your eyes can’t see more then 30. Ofc it helps with input but even that drops off a cliff at 60. A maximum of 90 is when professional gamers can’t sense the difference in input anymore. So a 100-120 hz monitor is already beyond what you really need.

@@RealityCheck6969 you're so wrong man...

And me neither. However, the purchase of an RTX 4090 seems to bother those who didn't buy it. I saw the same thing happen with the RTX 3090.

@@letsplayskyrimle9391 i wish i had a 4090 TI, i only have a 3090 :^(

Там уж 60 фпс будет, точно, но только с уберфейковыми кадрами МылоЭсЭс 4 🤣

@@EugeneA89 Нет, 60 будет и без DLSS

No es tan sencillo tampoco. Va mucho más allá. El problema con el RT actual es que lo vemos aplicado como una cosa de última Hora y sin ganas. A un juego ya terminado el ponen 1 solo tipo muy básico de RT como oclusion ambiental Rt Y claro el cambio es mínimo. Podrías tener el juego con la mejor iluminación del mundo , digamos red dead redemption 2 , que tiene muy buena iluminación tradicional. Que si le metiesen auténtico path tracing , se vería mucho mejor. Por muy buenos que sean los artistas no puedes competir contra simular la luz de la misma manera que se dispersa en la vida real. Así que el problema no es que cuando los artistas trabajan poco , Rt vale la pena y cuando trabajan bien no. El problema es que se han hecho muchas implementaciones de RT que dan pena , que son una broma , que están ahí solo por decir que están , y han dañado la imagen de la tecnología. Mira metro exodus, la iluminación que hicieron los artistas está muy bien , fue con la que salió el juego y la que tuvo por años. Cuando sacaron la enhance edition , le añadieron Rt como tiene que ser , bien implementado y mejoró radicalmente la calidad visual del juego , pese a que si tenía una buena iluminación ya. Cyberpunk tampoco está mal iluminado para ser un juego de mundo abierto y con una ciudad tan compleja. Pero Rt lo mejora mucho y pathtracing directamente lo transforma. The Witcher 3 next gen es otro gran ejemplo. Un juego amado por casi todos y que siempre tuvo una presentación visual que todo el mundo disfrutó , especialmente en pc’s potentes. Y sin embargo la actualización que sacaron que añade RT Gi/RT Shadows/RT reflections etc y cambio mucho la imagen del juego. En conclusión , El RT ni depende de que la iluminación tradición esté mal hecha para sobresalir. Depende que la implementación de Rt esté bien hecha.

@@lawyerlawyer1215 Entiendo todo lo dicho ...pero el RT mejorará además de la calidad la productividad de los programadores y el hard hoy no está a la altura ni en desempeño ni en accesibilidad económica de las mayorías .... Son dos puntos de vista ... Que no son totalmente antagónicos , más bien veo algo de complementarios

For the amount of crashes this game experienced at launch I would say pretty terrible

No. This is Sparta!!

yes you can and also Frame generation

If you still have this issue, delete your driver using DDU and re-install

Spoken like a true peasant, OD looks incredible on this game face it

@@arithmetic7105 The only thing I am facing is The gameplay is super boring after like 3 days. Now shove OD up ur A double S and cry in the corner.

The distant future.

@@Atheismo9760 Wdym ? It's playable now and will be even more playable with every next gen of gpus.