WHAT MAFIA AND WATCH DOGS And SAINTS ROW GOT BETTER NPCs THAN GTA CYBERPUNK NPCs Is on the same level as gta 5 but one thing is cyberpunk is a rpg game and gta 5 open world game
that only happens when a game is abandoned by the developer. Cyberpunk just released and will most likely get patched a lot and they are probably going to add some of the features that were cut because of the stupid release schedule.
@@spinnenente Well I'm glad I did not buy on launch. I went through that with Arkham Knight on PC. Maybe players faithfully waiting for the patches might get treated to free dlc, down the road.
I know I'm checking it everyday. There are so many possibilities after things are cleaned both by CDPR and modders. Still a sad ass state that this game is in.
@@Dave_Albright yea.. to be honest.. i would play only games released by them, with a few exceptions, but unfortunately making such a piece of art takes a lot of time and money investment
9:25 - "BUT STILL" Is this what you have to say about the comparison? But still? There is no but still. Cyberpunk has a lifeless world, like a painting in the background that you just look at and pass through. There is no but still. Thanks.
That and PS4/Xbone were.prerty stagnant in gameplay. Most of their focus was on graphics and size. Aside from a few gems, last generation was extremely safe.
@@marsim5044 true, but they don't have a million commercial stunts for their games. They only anouce something when they know they game is almost finished and going to be good.
@@TulioSounds yes that’s why they are the hype. They don’t need advertisement their brand is an advertisement, CDPR was the same thou until they botched the release with their false advertisement,
I feel like that would just lead to creative differences between the studios and wouldn't work out in the long run. Its not as simple as featuring someone in a song. It takes way more time and coordination and both companies use different engines for their games which would complicate things. CDPR is perfectly capable of making their own competent ai if they wanted to, they probably didn't because they didn't expect such a big demand and backlash for not including it.
Same thing happened to me. I could've characters or reloaded a save but a part of me wouldn't give up. So I just kept going forward until I found my way to the subway station.
GTA 5 will always be a masterpiece and it's amazing how it looks better than so many of the current gen games (not talking about cyberpunk). Rockstar will out do itself with GTA 6.
@@Dunny2k At least that game is still a whole lot better than the trash that is Cyberjunk. At least GTA V gives people incentive to go back and play the game.
@@XilentKiller187 well its just cool to compare open worlds , and to see how much progress (or not) that we've gotten in 7 years. im sorry to break it to you but gta 5 is not that good either after u beat the game the city feels lifeless like its just a city there for you to do crimes in it doesnt feel like a living city
@@Dunny2k yup I got griefed by a dumbass but I sent him calm messages and well he really wanted me to get mad but I kept my cool and he literally said "Fuck you trash" and I got his ass banned lol that's a big win for me
I have to agree with you. Not only random street NPCs feel lifeless but the enemies are way too easy to deal with. I'm currently about 50hours in the game and level 30, and I'm an unstoppable machine because the AI is just way too dumb for me. The main story is amazing and some side quests are really really interesting. Keanu Reeves is also absolutely amazing as Silverhand. Game has such a great potential, but it's ruined by inexistant AI.
problem is that AI is usually based off of core systems working together. it's not a simple bug or UI fix. they'd have to rework major portions of the code and test to make sure it would be stable to use.
@@antonyapostolov8252 I don't know man, I'm level 24 and I'm getting one-shot pretty easy while it takes 10 clips to the head to take down 1 enemy. You can run around and eventually find a way to cheese the enemy but that's the only way I can win at all. Maybe I'll get to a point where my stats are high enough but even random street gangs I run into are tough.
@ayaan bazaz thats not what he is saying if gta 5 got dropped today and not back in 2013...it would still be a hella good game it kept up good over the years and highkey better than most open world games today.
Should have also talked about how GTA actually has stuff to do within the city. Barbers, tattoo parlours, arcades, casinos, the list goes on. Night City basically has nothing
@Penetrator Dude i think you are also confused, their both open world games, gta five nails it in the immersion in nearly all aspects. cyberpunk only nails it in the environment not immersion, just look at the AI if you need examples
@@BlackPowerParty Did you pull that out of your ass or do you have proof. Because for some reason people seem to think just because the last Witcher 3 DLC came out in 2016 that it's impossible they were working on anything before that. Like, you do realize DLC does not require as many staff as a brand new IP right?
Cyberpunk shows how depth and detail is overlooked by most fans. GTA 5 works better for sure, it also looks very plain and has very simple textures, while cyberpunk is too complex for it's own good, those 2013 consoles just can't hack it.
And yet somehow even the most lifeless and dull parts of the oceans can still make cyberpunk look like, in Jeremy clarkson said words "an American who decided to go to Brazil for a few months, and now they still look like a fat bloke but they now act like a drug addict"
You can only guess, and i wouldn't be that sure if they can do all the quests design and story telling which is best of the best. GTAV in terms of story is dull
While I think you're onto something, there'd be shark cards and other p2w stuff in the MP. Can't see CDPR pulling something like that. Also, I believe the DLCs will be awesome, CDPR's got a hand for stuff like that.
But mainly, Cyberpunk doesn't have airport/airplanes and indestructible trains Edit : One thing that Cyberpunk has, but the whole GTA series doesn't have are *Kids* Also, there are some parallel parking spaces in NC but they are rare. Both maps are unique in themselves.
@@AverageAlien lazy, little thought? Night City is one of, if not the most meticulously planned and crafted video game cities to ever exist. It's so much more difficult it is to create a city this dense, layered, and detailed rather than the forests of RDR2 or the hollow buildings of Los Santos.
@@berserk1934 people hate it because its fucking unplayable on the current gen and only intel core i9 10th gen with RTX 30 series can enjoy that game without bugs
@@johnmarston1227 I've never had a PS3 so when GTA V came out I was so jealous of the people playing them... So when I got my PS4 that was the first game I bought and I could finally rest in peace... This thing is a masterpiece... Might actually gonna replay it soon
GTA 5 citizens actually protect themselves. If you steal their car, there's a chance one will defend their ride. In Cyberpunk 2077 you barely jump around and everyone crouches down. xD
not the world itself, GTA V is a great game but the world, most houses, buildings etc, you can't go in most of it, there's not a lot of places you can go inside, in cyberpunk there's 100s of times more places to actually go inside, its not even close, in GTA you can't get away from bad guys or the police easily, in any given area you're kinda stuck outside with no nooks and crannies tyo hide in, you can't go in 99.99% of the buildings and houses, in cyberpunk there's lots of nooks and crannies, lots of places to hide and go inside, open stores, buildings etc, its a lot different in that area, cyberpunk has way more interactive places and 100 times more buildings to go inside, hundreds of places, its hard to hide in GTA, fallout 4 did a good job also with places to hide and go inside, not at much as cyberpunk still but thats one problem with rockstar games, even RDR2, rockstar games the buildings etc mostly are not places you can go in, a few sure, but not many, cyberpunk, fallout 4, even dues ex, all have a lot of places to go in and hide from enemies or get away, sneak, use stealth, rockstars games aren't good in that area.
I was playing Cyberpunk yesterday, on a mission to talk to a guy. Couldn't drive my car all the way there even if there was a road. The car just stopped moving forward. After we talked I spawned my vehicle and ofc it got stuck in the ground with only the tail sticking up above ground. Ofc it blew up and I had to walk away from there and ofc the guy I had a mission to talk with drove me over. ALT + F4.
@@maxim196 In san andreas it's fun to just sit and observe the npcs because of their randomness. Watch a dude get hit by a car, guy jumps out and starts to get his ass beat, cops come and start shooting, people speeding off scared as a result of the shooting, crashing their cars, explosions go off, firefighters and paramedics come, none of which I had anything to do with. Cyberpunk they just fucking sit there lmfao
No, the NPCs even from GTA 1 don't just act like it, they are BETTER than cyberpunk AI. Some will fight you, some will run, either way they won't crouch and do fuck all.
@@Dunny2k At least grindable and playable, unlike cyberbug fest 2077 who had 7 years to make the biggest dissapointment of all gaming history. Learn from Rockstar
@@coldpizza2627 There are a lot of buildings you can explore vertically. There are doors you can open later in the game depending on your ability and unmarked buildings on the map
@@coldpizza2627 idk man, some of y'all expectations r too high imo... Y'all really expected a game made by gods huh? Of course you can't go in most of them that's kinda impossible.
@@superkamiguru7985 80% score on PC with lot of bugs :) It will be 93+ for few months after patches. Playstation 4 users are ones who request refund. I don't think so many people actually refunded on PC.
I just realized: GTA V had a first person mode with the PS4 and XBOne. Taken together, GTA is the present and Cyberpunk is the future and they both have a similar feel
One main thing I noticed between the 2 maps is the overall feel of the map. In GTA when im exploring I feel very tall, large, and open. With Night City I feel small, and closed off. This is probably because of the condensness of Night City and the fact you spend most of your time on the ground with giant structures all around you. I dont think i ever felt this feeling of being a small human in a world in any other game. Anyone else feel this way when comparing the 2?
Exactly, if the game works for you it's actually good if not competent at least. Base game does have its issues though, maybe I'm spoiled by other skill trees but Cyberpunk's is very boring. Nothing but basic percentage increases, need to do more things like borderlands honestly. I hope this game doesn't get dumpstered by public opinion so we can have more Cyberpunk themed games. We need a new shadowrun game or two, I'd hate to see it get shelfed like Warhammer
@@TheeOK1 Bro are we playing the same game here? I do like 60K crits with 80-90% chance on normal goons and around 20-30k on enemies that are the so-called bullet sponges(skulls on their heads), playing the game on very hard and it's pretty easy, yes they can sometimes one hit me as well, but with a focus on stealth, reflex, hacking and body I'm usually quite prepared. Started off with stealth mainly though and transitioned it into a hack and slash basically because of how OP I started getting. Those who don't like the RPG mechanics in Cyberpunk are not hardcore RPG gamers or arent really invested into the world and lore. The RPG system is actually a bit broken in a sense as in too OP especially for my melee build. (my machete does 1200DPS, it's not even purple, my legendary shotgun does 400DPS)
@@meassaominea8246 the time between GTA 4 and GTA 5 was 5 years. It has been 7 years since console release of GTA and 5 years since it's PC release. Have a bit of patience so that you actually receive a finished game with lesser bugs
@@deathtrap5556 Sure, time is an essential factor for a good game, but lets be honest here for a sec and just admit that Rockstar is milking the ever-loving shit out of GTA5 and will continue to do so for as long as they can. That thing has been/will be out for literally 3 generations of consoles. That's goddamn ridiculous.
I'd rather have an open world that has quests that are actually written well. GTA's a sandbox for people to just go braindead yolo in, Cyberpunk's an RPG. Apples and oranges.
@@RithikaV You can run over hordes of people walking down the street or just randomly dump ammo into a bunch of targets that don't shoot back. But if what I want is to have an actually deep or thoughtful experience, then no, not really. Hell, if I wanted to have an enjoyable driving experience, I wouldn't be able to do that either. Something like Forza Horizon is better for that.
@@cleanpoop9929 Did I say anything about that? I said a deep, and interesting narrative. When you're reading a good book, you don't 'make choices that effect the outcome.' That doesn't make the experience any worse. And for what it's worth, I've had pretty drastically different dialogue and experiences from how I've handled quests, when I reload and do them differently.
Yea but compared to these 2 games, it's quite boring except for opening 5 and closing 10 hours of the game those hours is where the game shines the most
@@pcpc9710 Imagine buying an OWG set in 1899-1907 in the wild west expecting not to ride horses everywhere 🤦♂️ I mean seriously. How else were you expecting to get to places? By driving or flying??? If you have a problem just use a stage coach, train or fast travel 🙄
I honestly am loving this game I know it’s full of bugs but it’s still a masterpiece. And in my opinion I feel like the world looks way better than los Santos. Even the outskirts look much more realistic than sandy shores.
Funny enough Cyberpunk 2077 looks and feels massive but when driving around it doesn’t feel unbearable going from place to place especially when unlocking some of the super cars in the game. I agree and been here since day one. The game had a rough start no thanks to the “fans” but it’s truly a masterpiece.
Bro, Cyberpunk2077 is an RPG. I don't know why you are complaining. The same happens I skyrim, The Witcher 3, Fallout... And even with that, Cyberpunk2077 is really enjoyable for playing with freedom (except bugs). You can drive. Talk to NPCs. Go to shops.
Ada Alonso I agree with you. I’m not saying people should compare the game to GTA, they should not, rockstar games makes very unique open worlds. This should be compared to RPG’s. Still there are some glaring issues wether it’s performance, framerate, the broken wanted system, some things that are bad
I don't think it's a tower. They did so many things wrong and limited by taking 7 years. Where RockStar nailed everything in RDR 2. And Ubisoft can realease better game than cyberpunk 2077 within 2 year.
Ik is buggy af, but im having so much fkin fun with this game, settings on mid-low 50-70 fps , good with that tbh, i'd like more yeah...but the fun is so much idgaf at this point
Same I have an RTX 2060, and the game is so much fking fun, I understand the anger, but I think people are a little too mad, they can get refunds or wait, those are some decent options. Also the base consoles are 7 years old so I wouldn't expect it to run well on them anyways.
cyberpunks map is maybe smaller, but to me it feels way bigger because there is something everywhere. it is so detailed, you have to explore something everywhere and all the little streets and stuff just feel so big
Denser. GTA 5 has a wider map with more open areas and lots of way to traverse it. Night City is dense and closed though. But it allows for more sightseeing and appreciation.
Does it really matter though? As impressive as GTA 5's map size is, some parts felt like empty wasted spaces. CDPR had the right idea to make their map size smaller but more dense and personal. I rather spend more time in Cyberpunk 2077, if only the AI wasn't so trash.
@Knownvibes 1 I get that, just imagine if night city was the same size of Los Santos? I'm getting fatigue with these giant open world games with little to no shit to do in them.
@@pessiescobar4707 Disclaimer: I'm definitely not a game expert. However, I know that in older games as far back as 2015, the AI is less one dimensional. This kinda made me assume that the reason the AI on this 2020 game may be because it was neglected or just rushed. Ot both. But in short, I know it would have been possible since we've seen it on lesser games. Or I could be wrong and it could be that an enhanced AI would break the game if overlapped with the already complex coding and world.
@@8015908 I never played fallout so can't comment there. All I know is it's just a game and I'm having fun, and that's all that matters. Hope you have a merry Christmas mate, and a good new year.
I like Night City more in terms of looks, but in terms of actual stuff to do it's basically empty. GTA had so many things to do, from barber shops and tattoo parlours to arcades and casinos. Night City is just bounties, boring as hell
@@XiaNingTian those side-quests are what I hate about open world games. Fetch quests that feel like chores. Outside of these boring chores there is no real way to interact with the world or the lifeless NPCs in it.
@@strawhatsgear5th yeah but cdpr has the option to keep adding dlc content to fill out some of the buildings that aren't accessible. I think it's pretty likely, given that there doesn't seem much scope to expand outwards for DLCs.
@@strawhatsgear5th Can't enter most of the buildings in RDR2 either. 2 year old game. Making every building in an open-world city visitable is insane - we're not there yet.
I'm pretty obsessed with cyberpunk at the moment, bugs aren't great but I'm on a mid-tier pc so it's working well enough. But yeah, really enjoying the exploration and side missions.
@@treynolds94 - I have no idea. It says I have 22 hours with 7 % completed. There is other stuff to do besides the campaign missions. How much time should you expect to get out of a $60.00 game?
@@kummakummakummakummakummac8606 Its different if people were given what they were promissed an open world immersive game. You cant even get into a police chase or interact with AI or go to a store get a hair cut customize cars. Nothing just stealing a car driving and going to a mission.
@@treynolds94 - I was only saying I liked the game. I wasn't trying to defend CDPR or Cyberpunk. They fucked up bad. They have only have themselves to blame.
Same! Even following traffic instructions is fun in GTA and I only go full rage road rampage when someone would crash into me (things I fantasize about doing IRL but will never do) lmaoo
@@jacobedwards4747 If you're playing the game then the AI doesn't matter. It's not a sandbox game after all. The AI is there as set dressing for the main story and side quests, and if you play the game as an RPG then you don't even interact with the AI. I don't get why people are so obsessed with something that doesn't matter. Should we also complain that food vendors don't cook the food when you buy it, instead you buy it from an interactive menu? Should we complain cars don't need servicing? Beside ticking an irrelevant box, what would more in depth AI add to the story?
@@----.__ but if you’re playing the game, you should care about the AI because of more in-depth combat, and just general immersion. You’re the one pulling non existent things out of your ass.
But like seriously, just walking the sidewalks in Night City, there's always a murder happening. You're less likely to see someone stealing a tanker truck with a helicopter, but the "someone's getting shot but I can't even be bothered to look" factor is off the chart. If GTA is The Simpsons, Cyberpunk is South Park.
Although i love design and architecture of Night City,no other open world game city gave me the same feeling that Los Santos did,especially vibing across the city while listening to radio.I miss good old days.
I literally have been down every street in gta v and I could get anywhere easily without a map. But night city seams sooo deep that I’m not sure I’ll get to that level
Why GTA 5 is great: Because it literally lets you do anything, it’s beautiful, it’s got a great story, it isn’t very buggy, it’s more immersive, you can realistically do realistic crap, it still manages to destroy games released 7 YEARS after it, not to mention so much more, and of course…Trevor is a character. Why Cyberpunk is great: It has a story that isn’t terrible, and on PC it is actually a nearly decent game.
In my opinion, GTA V has a terrible story that doesn't give me any dialogue choice, character creation or even simple RPG mechanics whatsoever (does it have branching storylines? I don't know because GTA never interested me). And I liked the world-building and aesthetics of Cyberpunk 2077 a lot more. It definitely could have used more interactivity but I didn't mind because I don't bother with those things anyway.
Got to remember it is Rockstar we are talking about and they are masters of open worlds now.. CDPR this is there first FPS rpg open world like this so, give em a break they still did an amazing job even thought the NPCs have absolutly no life in them
@@whothou Yeah that true also it rockstar cdpr tho remember witcher 3 was bugged and fail launched as until it got massive patches later as well so cyberpunk is kinda turning the next witcher 3 when it comes to fixes where it after the game drops
@@Kamikazibroadcast but instead of focusing on developing a good game they preferred to focus on marketing lol that's why everybody is so disappointed, because of the hype this game caused...
Daniel Lopes true I kept seeing so many people excited for this game having no clue who the developers were and what an RPG actually is. Comparing it, feature by feature, to GTA isn’t acceptable just because they are both open world games with guns and cars. Meaning expecting features that were never promised is kinda unacceptable
@@rockon609 depends what you're comparing, comparing the gameplay etc sure, a comparison to GTA is questionable, but this isn't a comparison of gameplay bit setting in which case GTA names far more sense than Skyrim because they are similar worlds: California centred on a major city and broadly based on the modern world. Skyrim on the other hand is a medieval fantasy world in a scandinavian environment
@@PuppetMaster-Blade lol the CEO of CDPR is literally a billionaire ( or was until their stock price plummeted for obvious reasons), do you know what is an indie dev?
