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It so amazing to see how k-dramas are slowly changing into more than just toxic romance. Dramas like D.P. and It’s Okay to Not be Okay are taking on real challenges and issues and I’m excited to see more.
Absolutely the way forward is education and communication. We have to be able to talk about the hard uncomfortable topics before we can begin to make change. It's been a long, long time coming for Korean citizens.
I like how most of the recent kdramas tackled taboos of lives like Sky Castle or Save Me which tackled about school pressure or fascism in their culture
I don’t think the D.P is the problem. Either way they still gonna have someone to catch those deserters. The problem is what they do to the deserters after they catch them & what made the deserters want to run away from their post. Is it from bullying, unnecessary torture, mental health issues etc. South Korea need to find measures to reduce the numbers of deserters.
@@paulandersbullecer3152 no kidding. I did my 2 years serving the nation in my country. The problem for Korea is the bullying, abuse of power & seniority.
Why not abolish mandatory enlistment like most developed countries have? Korea is a first world country yet one of the few that still have mandatory enlistment. Europe, America and Canada don’t have mandatory enlistment with the exception of a few EU countries and even in Asia, China, Taiwan, Japan don’t have a mandatory military service. Korea should modernize in this aspect too.
This is scary af, that national player's leg got necrosed because of lack of disinfectant and now nobody will take responsibility??? The government want the civilians to protect the country but who will protect these injured men who have to return to the society?
@James Henry Smith Sounds to me like Koreans need to start making their way into America for a better life. Especially since I know what I know. Life is tough there. Many Koreans are forfeiting having children since it is so expensive to just survive. That's sad 😔
@James Henry Smith well maybe 🤔, I don't live there, so I wouldn't know. However I myself wouldn't want to live there since there are a ton of poisonous creatures there, no bueno for me!
Umm they decided to shut down the DP system before airing of the show so..the series have no strong correlation but totally agree on your point. Plays, cinemas and shows here represent our current situation and sometimes make improvements like abolition of statute of limitation for rape, murder and other severe crimes. But I also like to point out Koreans are pessimistic toward their the government, want a lot from them, always crave for more moral and justice from the political leaders.
@@kimes2329 yes actually i think im wrong lol but it got a lot likes that's why i decided not to delete it but i believe the stories of societal problems in korea are actually the one's that influence film maker to make films like this
@@kimes2329 shows do make a great difference. I remember a show Gong Yoo has starred which tackles Child molestation and with that movie, law was changd, and a lot of things were looked into. There are artists who create and make use of the media play to make things right, and I hope it continues to grow.
Korea has serious bullying culture due to unnecessary importance given to hierarchy. People should be respected equally regardless of age or rank. Even in kpop this used to be very evident between the members of the group. The young ones were expected to do the chores for the older ones and that’s BS. I know the newer generation of kpop is better now from what i see. The male members dont make it strict for the younger ones to call them ‘hyung’ . And they still can respect each other.
'Hyung' or 'Oppa' is like 'Mum' or 'Dad'. They aren't voluntary nicknames anyone can use just whenever they feel like it. Will calling your parents directly by their name change the dynamics between you and them in anyway? If so, then we live in different worlds and I have nothing more to say but my understanding is that the problem lies within the attitude and perception of age differences in Korea, not mere titles or cultural norms. I've known many mature Koreans that would treat everyone equally regardless of their age and how they address him or her.
@@if8172 why not voluntary? If between biological familial relationships I’d understand. But between friends who are just a year apart and to demand that, i feel like that’s kinda messed up. DP has just proven how this entitlement can escalate. But then again, it’s wrong of me to just pin Korea at the center of this. Bullying happens in every corner of the world and bullies exist because the people around them allow them to. We feel the need to fight for our rights but we treat other humans like trash.
It's called a difference in culture and if you can't abide by it you're simply not respecting it and it just doesn't work like that. You don't see Koreans going to America or whatnot and demanding Americans should be eating burgers with chopsticks. That's just pure narcissism. When in Rome mate.
I don't know how you managed to end up correlating a show about military insubordination with Korean social customs but DP aspects result from rotten military traditions that somehow managed to uphold it's way even up until now which undoubtedly needs to be fixed. How Koreans address each other is simply a customary way of showing respect towards your elders, nothing less and nothing more. I've known 'hyung's I've treated exactly like my same aged friend and vice versa. If they end up bullying someone, it's on their personality and character, not a tradition as those type of people exist universally regardless of culture.
I agree..Professional soldiers who wont leak this kind of information to the general public and therefore it will appear resolved but not actually BE resolved… Im worried for when BTS enlist 😭
@@gailjkbiasot7141 they'll just make it into a bts show or something.. The korean government needs a positive spin on thier mandatory military.. If they dont serve together, the band will be forgotten, or diminish their impact. I mean if they serve one by one, it will take a long time to get them back together again and tour, and maybe then they wont be as famous anymore, their army would move to another boy band. There has been actors that went to the military and when they got out, they weren't on the top anymore.
@@WarRior-rn4kb most likely they will all go in together voluntarily when Jin's age makes it mandatory and cant be postponed. But i doubt if they will allow all round special treatment or cameras. I dont think bangtan boys would the spl treatment too.
@@radhikacsa3585 right, it wont be like big brother 24 hours. I've seen military jobs featured. They're not all infantrymen, some become botanists 😂🤣. Still they can make a show of military jobs. They're still technically at war with kim jung un.
We need dramas like DP that criticizes the society. I'm Korean and i asked my friends abt the reality bc i was quite scared. They said it depends on the place. They said reality of millitary could be worse or better. They deserve more
Once it got exposed 😶 now the government is embarassed. Imagine if it produced not by netflix but by a national television, the show would have been canceled by the government itself because they dont like to critisized, and it would never got exposed
As someone who worked in Korea for a while I gotta say it’s not a military only issue. It’s just Korean society is like that. It’s ridiculous, i personally witnessed numerous times how grown up ppl put up with school-level bullying. Junior employees would bow down to seniors every time they meet them, do chores(buy drinks lol) stay after work to do someone else’s work. I was like “WTF do you have no self respect” but was told to mind my own business, ppl are too afraid of losing jobs. So yeah. Korea
Korea is a great place when it comes to education and healthcare, but their work culture is not healthy. Youre expected to overwork yourself or else you wont make it living in Korea. Reasons why people have to decide carefully whether they want kids or not because financially kids are expensive.
@@chohyunil3804 bro Korea has the highest literacy rate in opec countries with around 97% and their healthcare is the top in the world , even crossing USA and Canada
I love a lot about the Korean culture; but not that crap, that sucks! That is why I am so thankful to be a hispanic woman, LATINAS don't put up with a damn thang! We teach our kids the same way. Respectfully so, but no one is gonna stop on me or mine. It's to bad they don't speak up for themselves.
In the military forces of Korea: People died of accident - make it look like it was suicide People died of incident - make it look like it was accident Dead men never speak. Was a joke among my peer from bootcamp in Nonsan..until it really happened irl.
Even outside of the military, seniority is such a big thing. I'm not even Korean but am here for a semester of school and I am always scared of offending someone older than me or in a higher position for me. Can't imagine if they had weapons or tools. They definitely need to fix the system first before change people
Yee seniority culture here is so fucking toxic and irritating. I mean, I'm not saying the concept of seniority doesn't excist in any other countries, but It really is idiotic culture. Like why do you need a damn seniority before you become an actual senior citizen. I would understand if the age gap between the person and me was like over 5-7 years, But even if you are like damn a year younger you have to use all the dumb honorifics like come oON
@@thiccthirdleg8610 I agree, it's toxic when people take advantage of it. Being a year older than me should not mean you can treat me worse than someone the same age or older. It has its advantages and disadvantages
@@thiccthirdleg8610 The 'senority culture' is definitely toxic but I think your complaint on having to use honorifics towards those a older, even if a little by your standards, is completely irrelevant towards to topic. That is simply a cultural consensus between Koreans as is bowing when greeting. What you said is simply that the culture is 'dumb' and should be accustomed to my personal preferences. That is just pure ignorance, rude and highly ethnocentric in nature. I'm not sure why you're so invested in Korea if that's your perspective as I can't think of any other reason you're commenting here.
@Ashley Chu I'm sorry you feel that way and I do empathise but from your comment what I can tell is that this prejudice of how Koreans might react is all an accumulation in your head from what you saw or read prior to interacting with actual Koreans. If you've actually had a bad experience then I'll take back what I said but I think the best way forward is for you to just continue being yourself without thinking everyone's a brittle little snowflake. Most young Koreans are quite lenient in that manner especially towards non-Koreans so I would hardly worry about offending them as long as what you do is at least rational.
Well it could be just a different kind of DP maybe like a spitroast or something. On a more serious note i think its more on a cycle of power trip the junior's get bullied so when they become senoir's they want others to feel what they did so they continue the cycle when they are the ones in power.
They are using the drama as a scapegoat. What they need to do is a total reform. Other countries also have their own mandatory military service not only for men but women as well. They dont have issues like this.
I watch that drama,for me my heart goes to those trainee that is experiencing hard physical training that is not included in their required standard of training..
The Korean netizens comment was what I was thinking too. Instead of abolishing DP, they should've changed rules and conduct so that bullying won't occur. Plus how are they gonna deal with people who else from the army without DP? I thought it's kinda dumb when its inevitable that people will flee when army life is too difficult
I have always said that Entertainment (Films, TV and Music) always opens up topics of discussion! This is what THE ARTS is for! SUPPORT ARTISTS because Artists are essential to ALL CULTURES!
The dramas reflect a lot of social issues especially discrimination, sexism, classism, bullying and sexual harassment as long as people learn to look beyond the visuals. Your point is valid.
That last comment makes so much sense. There wouldn't be deserters or at least not that many if the soldiers were getting treated properly. I love that Nextflix gives them a chance to speak up about real social issues without fear of being blacklisted
There are a lot of bright side of SK.. and .. of course there are also plenty dark side of SK... but its good to see that media such as drama able to describe the dark thing and make it into national attention
Some Korean men I know were jealous of how Americans treated us US Soldiers. I never did it for them to be grateful and never thought of it much, but when my Korean friends said "I envy you, your country is greatful for your service and let's you know, while mine doesn't care about us and treats us like crap". I felt so bad. US Army SSG Lee (Ret.) served 2 tours in Korea.
Just hearing from this video it makes me really upset. I’m a US Army soldier and I joined to serve and protect our country. That was my choice. Inside military bullying is not tolerated and THATS not who we are, we trained together as brothers, we have this saying YOU WATCH MY BACK AND I WATCH YOUR BACK, it all brotherhood. Trainers they trained you to be tough to fight the enemy not to freaking bully your brothers. Military is my second family so why bully your family. Seniors helps the new recruits to go through their training to be a fighting soldiers. That’s why every US military show pride, respect, and honor to their uniform. Their are some deserters too, that’s showing respect and helping each other become Army strong. Bullying is just a very disrespectful and very hateful way of showing to this new recruits and I’m sure they don’t to be part of this military organization. Over here in America you bully someone your done and your out. SHOW YOUR TOUGHT ON YOUR ENEMIES NOT TO YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE MILITARY FAMILY. SHOW THEM RESPECT AS YOUR BROTHERS, AS YOUR MOTHER LAND NEEDS THEM TO PROTECT THEIR FREEDOM. WHAT A SHAME THAT I THOUGHT SOUTH KOREA IS VERY WELL PROGRESSED COUNTRY, SPECIALLY AFTER KOREAN WAR. DONT BULLY YOUR BROTHERS OR SISTERS IN THE MILITARY, STAND STRONG AS ONE.. EMBRACED EACH OTHER, BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL THE PROTECTOR OF YOUR MOTHER LAND. REMEMBER WHAT THE ALLIES DID TO YOUR COUNTRY, THEY DIED AND FACE YOUR ENEMIES FOR YOUR FREEDOM. IF YOUR A BULLY ONE YOU THINK YOUR BAD ASS, GUESS WHAT YOUR NOT, YOU ARE A COWARD, BECAUSE YOU ONLY BULLY THE WEAKEST. STOP THAT WAY TREATING YOUR BROTHERS, BELIEVE ME THEY WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE SOMEDAY. STAY STRONG AS ONE. LIKE IN THE US ARMY, WE WILL NEVER LEAVE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS BEHIND HOOOOOAAAAH ARMY STRONG.
I think a lot of people turn to “toxic” romantic K Dramas to escape their crappy lives. Not a lot of people are searching for shows to watch that are dark, unhappy, and filled with high anxiety and despair. We get an overdose of those feelings in our own realities.
agreed, I prefer watch romcom or slice of life Kdrama because I watch netflix as escapism. But I'm not agree if the genre called "toxic". I'm aware that romcom kdrama is unreal.
@@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod watching Kdramas whatever genre is not mean ignoring reality. It's just a matter of preference for relaxation. Like some people prefer tea or coffee. How can ignoring reality when everyday we must face a lot of problem. People who prefer romcom genre usually just want to feel good after watched it, while others prefer thriller or horror for adrenalin rush.
Bullying culture in Korea is at fault and this culture exists through out all the social structures whether it's in schools, offices and military is no exception. And in a way the Korean society accepts this. So abandoning DP will not end anything really. The Korean society needs to have a broader perspective. They even bully their own people for having tanned skin which is considered as a sign of poverty in Korea. Times are changing few section of the younger generation are open minded. But there is still a long long way to go. And these bullying culture have now crept into Korean cyber space and as a result we have witnessed the suicides of Idols and many other youths. Dear Korea, the world loves you and respects you but there are things that needs to be changed for your own good. Be the change!
I don't understand why there are bullies in army? They all an adult, the military environment already harsh, shouldn't ppl become more down to earth and kind? Even the higher officer should be blame
it's the same why there are bullies in real life. Don't forget that EVERY male has to go to the army, so they don't pick and choose the "nice" people. So sometimes, more than often, you will have assholes in the army as well :-(
there are bullies everywhere. they can be in schools, colleges, workplaces, social media, etc. it isn’t singular to a certain age group, children, race, ethnicity, gender, etc. bullies can be anywhere.
I see this as the beginning of an all volunteer force like the United States has. If they pay the Military members better and provide a retirement after 20 yrs like in the US they will fill their void of recruits and have a more lethal and stable Military force.
I respect military of any country because they deserve the respect they protect us but this kind of treatment with them really broke my heart. There is no use of development when there is harsh treatment especially with soldiers. I will pray for them 🙏
its so sad how most koreans would agree thatmen should serve and have there mandatory service but atthe same time fail and neglect the abuse that happens to mwn while in such service as well as the fact that there is soany desserters....truth is nobody wants to be forced into something they shouldent half
Korea has access to one of the highest standards of healthcare. Still their military has the worst of the worst only. There is so much wrong with their military.
If all that bullying system is true, korea is no more my favorite country as it was before. All dreams i had related to korea are vanished. I'm glad i don't live in such a country. ..
I watched a video of a korean girl who is now a RU-vidr living in Mexico, she said that she left Korea because she couldn't live there anymore, the culture and social pressure almost kill her...So imagine!
The bullyingnculture is in their blood, they cannot escape it. The smallest fact that you have to be extremely polite to someone who is even 12 older than you proves how vulnerable they are to bullying. Politeness is highly practice in my country too, but not to that extent.
Are you Japanese? It's ok to respect others but they took it to another level. In my opinion when someone is rude or cross the line that is when my respect is gone away. But I'm from another culture, so...
Well you got bigger problems when rich people and their kids don't do their duty. And acknowledge some people are gentle souls and not cut out for the military unless you change it
LOL , they are funny .Do they really think D.P. is the real problem ? They should find out the reason behind desertion , they should make better place for their soldiers.Since it's compulsory military job , they should make a better place there.
True, I can't blame those who deserted. They are forced to do military service (it isn't their decision) and to make things worst they are bullied an abused regularly. Who would want that?! Nobody.
Why not abolish mandatory enlistment like most developed countries have? Korea is a first world country yet one of the few that still have mandatory enlistment. Europe, America and Canada don’t have mandatory enlistment with the exception of a few EU countries and even in Asia, China, Taiwan, Japan don’t have a mandatory military service. Korea should modernize in this aspect too.
I agree with you that it would be nicer to get rid of it but in their case, modernization has nothing to do with it. Because even now, in "modern" days, the political situation in south korea is very different to the one in all those other countries. They're balancing a very fickle peace with the north and for that reason they don't dare getting rid of the mandatory service yet. Even if it doesn't seem acute, they can't rule out the possibility of another conflict and then the fact that almost every man above the age of 20 has gone through military training can make a huge difference for them. I'm very anti military but I don't think south koreas situation is really comparable in that aspect
@@eden_v3133 Not to offend you but I think your understanding is a bit limited in that regard. Today's wars aren't fought with guns and soldiers, not in the slightest. You could have a every single Korean man knowing how to use a gun and they all could be taken out by a few drone pilots. Today's wars aren't decided by who has more soldiers, they're decided by who has better diplomatic and economic ties, more resources and better technology. The amount of soldiers or whether or not the average Korean man can use a weapon is completely irrelevant in modern times.
Are you forgetting that Korea is still literally in the middle of war with the north? They never signed a peace treaty fyi... Blame the foreign westerners and the CCP for separating Korea in the first place. If it wasn't for the USSR and the US to fight over dumb political ideologies this wouldn't be a problem.
@@quecksilber4976 You say that and yet the U.S has been doing drone strikes against terrorists for over 20 years now, only to leave Afghanistan under the Taliban's control. Also, Vietnam is an example that raid bombing doesn't work.
The laws imposing the responsibility, and action of the soldier or any officer in the future that will arrest D.P. are the real traits of a traitor. Physical assault, accident, and other injuries that a D.P. or any military suffering is worst than beating up any potential colonials or terrorist. Its a mental illness of the military culture started way back from ancient times. Military should protect the citizens and fellow military not hurt, kill or push them to death. Time and effort should be spend about defending one own's country. Military pride and dignity have become the same face of an abuser, terrorist and criminal when inflicting pain and death over D.P. There are a million tasks to accomplish in defending one's country against colonials or terrorist. Why spend time to assault or kill fellow military soldier, unless a criminal soldier? Or the law makers who defined D.P. lost their mind in defining D.P? They are the real D.P.!
꽤 많은 사람들이 한국 문화의 문제만으로 생각한다. 하지만 이런 비슷한 문제는 어느 곳에나 존재한다. 때때로 사람들이 저런 영상을 보고 걱정하지만 저런 작품이 세상으로 자꾸 나와야 조금씩 변화할 수 있다. 부디 모두들 주위를 둘러보길. 보이지 않는 무엇인가가 존재할 수도.
My Korean friend watched it with me, he said he was a "high level soldier" there or special soldier (I didn't ask* about that) and never saw stuff like that during his service. But yeah this isn't the type of work low level soldiers should be doing, they're not trained to investigate stuff, there should be a special training at least
tats funny, but I understand why its implemented because technically both koreas are still at war. so they need its population to at least have some form of military knowledge. In the US, if you desert your post, they won't actively look for you, but if local law enforcement catches you; you're fucked.
Yeah, but seniority is always number 1 for them, so it's hard for someone who have inferiority complex don't do that, and will use that opportunity to abuse someone
@@zahrafarhanah5908 yeah and for a lot of people that's been go through abuse, they will do the same to their juniors to take revenge. the cycle continues and sometimes become tradition.
I do not understand how a developed country doesn't have a professional army only, with human rights studies, and where they can pursue a professional career (medicine,engineering, laws etc)
The case of South Korea, as with Israel, is actually pretty special as they are both currently engaged in real-time conflict in their borders (Israel with Palestine, and SK with NK), so the condition is at any given time war could happen and the more able-bodied people able to defend the country the better. Nowadays, most of us don't live with war looming in our horizons, but usually when war breaks, there is the need for more military personnel than what is available and you'd have to conscript from civilians - But civilian conscription takes time and a LOT of training, something you can't afford in a state of war. Hence, SK training as many men as they could just in case the unthinkable happens!
dont worry, they close DP down now - the government will create a new department to continue the pursuit. It happens everywhere, but this time round they will be smarter.
I think making men server 3 now 2 years in the military along with readiness training over three generations is a bit much. Not only do they have american’s there why not expand the Korean career military? I’m sure a lot of young people who can’t find jobs or don’t have money to marry and start a family would love a system similar to US career military. Housing and other parents. Or they could just take out Kim.. ?
Pretty sure the numbers would be quite low for their situation, specially since you are comparing 2 countries with a huge difference in population. Both Koreas are not in a friendly situation obviously, so being at risk of a war breaking out in their border makes it necessary for them to do this mandatory service. Is not just about having active personnel ready, but also people in reserve with some kind of training, just in case it is necessary. The "just take Kim out" its quite a naive statement. If it was that easy it would've been done already.
@@13dg the conflict was unpopular so it ended with a ceasefire. We will be very ashamed we waited so long to stop the suffering there. But whatever. Only 1% of the population is currently serving the US. But they are career soldiers however most leave around 40. They manage to have spouses and kids all while serving. Housing is provided and everyone is able to eat. Veterans very sought out after for employment in the private sector and many work a job after they are retired or discharged for those not signing up again for another 6-8-10 years. Many who leave at 40 work another 20 years doing something else. Perhaps after getting a certificate or degree. Yet for some reason we have surplus people to send everywhere with just 1% serving. We do have selective service you have to sign up for when 18, males can be drafted. There is talk of extending that to females as well. Last time was needed was 50 years ago. Since they know they can draft 200K a year they don’t have to treat their soldier’s decent in Korea. If they did they would have 60K a year deciding on military and staying in for several years or decades. They would have skilled and young people all in one. Soon there will only be 100K entering a year.
In states of peace why you need to reserve soo much military while there is no war. Its is such a waste of government fund while there is more developement and infrastructur can be build. Infact most fulltime soldiers are just wasting their times and money on eating and other leisures budget. So serving for militaries training is just a preparations for the country if any war breakout. South Korean not just have to face north korea if the war breakout, they also have to face China and maybe Japanesse will take advantages too.
@@Im_Who_Im it is essential for all countries to have a ready trained force as a deterrent to invasion. Military serves other purpose such as responding to natural disaster and I know US National Guard manned the mass covid immunization center near me. How about the military evacuating their citizens abroad when that nation falls to warlords, etc… Those in the military are not wasting their time.
i'm curious. any Koreans here mind explaining, after the 2 years of service do you guys go back every other year for X amount of years? or do you just serve the 2 years and that's that?
@마리화나 , oh really? I was under the impression that there was actually some form of training to keep the soldiers up to some standard. That's really easy then, nothing as troublesome as where I come from.
@Tralala_Beez not me, if war breaks out i am running away to another country with my famaly. War always breaks out and normal people die for the ultra rich to profit and win their agendas. I will be no1 slave, not going to die for rich people pleasure
The bullies will just runaway like coward because they can only abused their strength, power and position on poor and weak person. but actually the bullies will be scares if they face more stronger and powerfull enemies. Only the poor and common peoples will be left behind to fight in battles if war breakout.
Coward people run away from their country becoz of war.Not all is about rich people or poor people.My ancestors didn't run away ,they didn't even had military training or equipment but they fought for their country and their next generations.269000 people died in that war .we are grateful that they didn't runaway with their families.
El título estaría mal, por qué no desaparece este departamento sino que solo los soldados permanentes o profesionales serán quienes lo harán y ya no los que están temporalmente realizando su servicio solamente.
At 2:46, isn't that he should've been exempted from the conscription since he and his team won a medal in handball at the Asian games? Or handball wasn't included from the list?
But in korea sometimes if you use that privilege, knetz will bully you too like they did to some idol or actor (yoo hae in, seo in guk etc) who have injuries or can't join military service because sick
DP or not it narrows down to mentality. Hierarchical system is too strong to bring a sudden change. Military judgement are never brought to light of public We civilians have no idea what happens in army neither full thing ll be known bcoz the high-up are bound by their code .
Frankly they should've just provide ongoing support for accidents. That's better than make it easier coz War could happen at anytime in S.K. Plus, they are near China, who know when they will be back crap crazy and start an invasion. Yea I guess it's costly. But definitely a better direction to follow.
China already make slow move for invasion, now the CCP are claiming the Sea of South East Asia to expend their border. Their reason is the sea was named after their country, the South China Sea. While the sea is a share border internationally between ASEAN countries thats never be claim before by any of these ASEAN countries. The Chinesse militaries also illegally plants a base camp in one of the island outside their border in the sea to stalk others countries marine forces. There will be possibility thats China will start war at any moment because after the peace they have many times and resources to strength their militaries force.
En todos los ejércitos del mundo se producen malos tratos y apremios ilegítimos a los soldados temporales y si no se presentan sin excusarse es peor. Se disculpan diciendo que los están preparando para una guerra pero no es justo que sus propios compatriotas los lesionen hasta el punto que los dejen discapacitados o los hagan preferir el suicidio. Sólo cuando los casos salen a la luz y se hacen públicos el ejército se pronuncia para disculparse y excusarse pero luego todo sigue igual. 💜🇨🇱
Only thing I couldn't understand is, individually we all do not like to have harassments. then why some are doing that shitty things even they also not like to experience by themselves.
I'm not going to argue but google works wonders. For the people who want to search and research how the hierarchy is abused in Korean society by seniors, superiors or higher class the information is there. It's ridiculous to comment on ones opinion because every culture is different and therefore ones worldview will differ. However you can easily research how Koreans feel about this system. I know first hand from studying in Korea and having communication classes, diplomacy classes and cultural classes where many of the Koreans I came in contact with stood on this topic and how they felt about it.
Military life is not easy and the choice to go awol must be avoided at all cost. The damage is not worth the risk. It’s amazing once enlisted, having passed all physicals, newbies begin to scheme and plot their escape. Who in their right mind, escapes from the military lol as if, you won’t get caught. It’s a great drama it shows what not to do and the consequences. Yes, basic training is boot camp and the treatment was harsh. If you don’t salute, do your chores correctly you may get chastised. But it isn’t all horrible and it strengthens the warrior within.
Ok.....what a perfect clickbait!....not over exaggerated ...but still gives u more curiosity......I click instantly after seeing the thumbnails....I used to watch D.P. and I love it but I haven't finished it yet..seeing this..I thought it'll be added to the lists of Kdrama canceled.....
I watch school kids being bullied in some of these kdrama and Hollywood and I will be seriously, you can't try this sh*ts in my country (Ghana). You the bully kid would have scores to settle with bullied kid parents Some parents even go to the extent of beating the bully kid, some even fight the teachers and the school authorities for allowing that to happen. Funny most of these bullies are those of broken homes, less cared and depressed kids. You can't take ur depression out on my child, this is not allow in my country and I don't hear such incidents whereby a kid commit suicide because he's being bullied
I’m not a korean, but i think mandatory 2 years as army for all men is a waste of time, energy and money. Why not just increased the permanent army post? Why they need to prepare for a war that’s seems not gonna happen anytime soon as long as the US military is there? I couldn’t imagine if I’m a korean man and have to do a 2 years army training for nothing. This is just my opinion btw
@Tralala_Beez they could always have mandatory for women aswell like other contries and reduce the time for 1 year for both genders. That way they have double the manpower and less time means people are more open to it aswell. And it will help with gender equality, no way gender equality can exist in a country if one of the gender is forced to go thro hell and the other doesnt.
Its required lot of funds to raise permanent armies and just sitting there to standby for war breakout. There are more wasting of money and food supplies if you keep many soldiers in base camp without doing proper jobs and anything necessaries. Infact they trained the citizen just to be prepared to defend the country in case war breakout any time, but im sure the militaries already have many strong elites armies thats was trained specially as task force. So after training they still can live as normal citizen with basic militaries knowledge incase of emergency. And its most cost effective because when you need to raise soldiers in sudden war breakout, the citizen already prepared to jump in the battle and the government dont need just to relies on help from other countries militaries force. Its mean the citizen have the basic to save their own life and their familiy.
@Tralala_Beez 1. South Korea has actually around twice the population of North Korea and is the 27th most populous country so that's definitely not small. I wonder why men might be disinterested in joining the military, maybe because the military is a highly abusive and gruesome institution? Meaning, the problem is not with the men but with the military. If they want people to join on their own free will (which they should) they'll have to improve the institution. Furthermore, they also don't need a lot of manpower (more in point 4). 2. Regardless of whether the US would side with South Korea or not (which is highly likely for the foreseeable future). It's almost guaranteed that nobody would side with North Korea. North Korea is an isolationist country with no real allies. South Korea is a globalized economy which means that they have established economic co-dependencies with almost all other globally relevant nations. Typically, counties will not side or go to war with other countries that they have diplomatic bounds or economic ties with or that are important trading partners. That's also why the the best means of peace keeping and avoiding war are diplomacy and trade - not militaries... that's a child's way of seeing the world. 3. South and North Korea might de jure still be at war but de facto they really aren't. You're making it seem as if North Korea is just seething at the mouth, waiting to burst into South Korea, but they really are not. There's no evidence for that. Infact, recent development has generally been quite positive between the two. Even if they attacked though... by means of having vastly more resources, much better technology and strong international ties both economically and diplomatic South Korea and it's allies would win that war without the need of millions of conscripted soldiers. 4. I hope one day you also realize that we aren't in the 19th century anymore and arrive in reality: Today's wars aren't fought with guns and soldiers, not in the slightest. You could have a every single Korean man knowing how to use a gun and they all could be taken out by a few drone pilots. Today's wars aren't decided by who has more soldiers, they're decided by who has better diplomatic status, more resources and better technology. The amount of soldiers or whether or not the average Korean man can use a weapon is completely irrelevant in modern times. Your understanding of these topics is that of a toddler. In conclusion: Mandatory service is probably not necessary at all and it would do a great good to abolish it (see for example suicide numbers talked about in this video).
