Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder and Daisy Model 105B Buck 

If you find a current production Buck that can hit 350 FPS out of the box, please let me know. I've converted quite a few of those guns and normally find they run 250-260-ish FPS. Subbing in a Cobalt mainspring and a 7/64" overbore airtube will add 50-60 FPS. Due to the integrated shot tube assembly, you can not add a Model 25 shot tube to these guns without major mods.

@@RestOModDaisy thanks for helping me understand. I thought I could trust daisy’s word on saying 350fps now that I know they are 250fps how much of a difference is adding upgraded spring is it noticeable power? And why hasn’t anyone try to sue daisy for false advertisement? I just bought a buck 105. I remember finding a old lever action daisy in my uncles garage it was loads of fun. Don’t know much about these that’s why I assumed they did 350 like the package says

@@gotnitro4329 I think the 350 FPS myth is a remnant of Daisy's advertising dating back to the 1940's-50's. The original #111 Model 40 Red Ryder's were certainly more powerful than the guns made today as a result of much stiffer mainsprings. I've worked on several that could hit 315-325 FPS that had thier original leather seals and unsacked mainsprings. Remarkable for an 80+ year old BB gun. I do believe that Daisy started dropping the power output on these toy guns around 1978 when they redesigned the Red Ryder and other products to incorporate a trigger mounted safety as a result of losing a law suit on the issue. Product liability issues drive corporate decisions. However, the current production guns are still fun to shoot and do fill a need in that they can introduce new shooters to the art of marksmanship.

Sure do, a generous coat of 30 wt non detergent motor oil.

Everybody loves a Mare's Leg.

@@RestOModDaisy I would love to cut the barrel down some but I am not too comfortable cutting the tube and all. Plus I would lose the loading port.

@@henrycems Things to consider. When I cut one I use a plumbers tool made for cutting copper tubing and it works pretty well for the barrel shroud, then I drive the barrel and abutment assembly out of the gun after marking the barrel so it's about 1/4" longer than the cut I made on the shroud. The tricky part is getting a square cut on the barrel itself and then crowning it so the gun will shoot straight. I then reinstall the assembly and use the plastic front sight/muzzle as a loading port because you will be able to dismount it easily as it will not fit flush anymore but will not fall off either. Things to consider.

@@RestOModDaisy I do have a pipe cutter I have used on copper pipe. Have you done a video of this process? I have a 105 buck and the front sight fell off one day in the field so I ordered one and supper glued that thing in. That is the reason I did not want to lose the BB loading port but if you have a way to fit it so it will not fall off but still be able to take it off to load BBs then I might be looking into doing this.

@@henrycems I don't think I've done a video on that process but I should. It's on the list of stuff to do.

Thanks for the serial number info Mark!

My pleasure Max. Now go get another one so you'll have two!

@@RestOModDaisy i just got one to day and put a light on it. The light has hight beam low beam and strobe.

I've read up on rust bluing but have yet to try it.

There is. Lots of folks do their own maintenance on their legacy Daisy's and there's quite a few that prefer to send their guns out. I like working on them and I really like upgrading old rust buckets whose next stop would have been the dump. They are not in the same league as golf or powder burners or street racers but none of those hobbies can be pursued with a modest handful of tools and won't be suitable for back yard use and casual plinking. Think about it, what other toy from the turn of the century in 1900 is still around today and still works as designed? Did you get a set of golf clubs for christmas in 1957 or did you get a Daisy?

Cowboy, Most likely an oversize BB is trapped in the barrel shroud. Open the loading port and shake the beejeezus out of it to see if anything falls out. If nothing does then whatever debris you've got in there might be in the receiver section.

I don't get that. Gamo owns Daisy as far as I know and Gamo is a big Euro corporation with a huge line of pneumatics and PCP style airguns. I'm surprised at the numbers of inquiries I've gotten from England and the EU for parts, stocks and complete guns that I won't commit to fill until I figure out how to get them shipped and through customs without costing 2 or 3 times the purchase price of the product. It's crazy!

Michael, I get most of my parts from Cobalt 327 over at Ebay. He's the developer of the Cobalt 327 Super Spring which I use in most of my builds and also carries other new production Daisy parts. You can find his store page here: www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754 Head over and check out his listings. You can get what you're looking for there.

Made a cut down 105B eh? Are you gonna fix that?

@@RestOModDaisy at this point, nah, the stock was too short for me im the first place, ill probably attatch a new homemade stock with more than one screw this time.

Daisy says a couple of drops every 500 rounds and specs 30 weight non-detergent oil. I've used about every motor oil under the sun and have had no problems with seals and such.

CapnJoe, That's an nice looking SBRR/Buck Quick Skill clone you got there. Did you use the stock mainspring?

@@RestOModDaisy No sir. I went all out with Mark's spring and overboard airtube. It's scary. Easily goes through a soup can. .

@@mistercapnjoe How far out are you tossing the aerial targets? I know you're deadly with a slingshot.

@@RestOModDaisy 20' or so I'd guess. The bb's are harder to follow than the white tracer marbles so I try to toss 'em up into the blue sky. I received a rocket shot in the mail from Daisy recently. I'll give that a go soon. If I use the "parlor gun" I built for Patti I might be able to cock and shoot fast enough to get the paddle then the can. We'll see... I'm enjoying the adventure.

I have to admit that they are pretty surprising little guns. I'm biased towards the older models but these Bucks great platforms for Mare's Legs and the ones I've restocked with mini forearms get rave reviews from customers.

@@RestOModDaisy tndeed!

Cool. Can you share the knowledge about how you decoded the register number with the viewership?

@@RestOModDaisy Sure I Googled it and JG Airguns has an article about the Dating. Letters A thru M are the months respectfully.Not using I to not confuse it with 1 I guess and first number is year. Article explains it much better.

@@russellhorner4950 I shall poke about and find it. Thanks!

Yes, I'm going to do a video about attaching a forearm to it.

@@RestOModDaisy I'd love to see the the spring and tube install also. I've been thinking about doing this to a few of the new bucks for my steps sons.

@@jonathononeal2570 I covered that in other videos but I'll do another that has that in the title.

John, I actually have one in the remuda! It's painted sorta brownish with a gold lever and still goes "Poot" when you pull the trigger. I've also got one of Daisy's Model 660 Ricochet Rifles that sadly, does not go "ZIIIIiiiinnnng" when you pull the trigger.

@@RestOModDaisy Can they be made to shoot?

@@user-he6nj1zv9f John, I really don't know. I'll check the two I've got and see if there is a treaded abutment washer in them. I do know the plunger assemblies are identical to other small frame Daisy's and plunger heads on the 960 are not equipped with airtubes but have a flat face plunger head. Got one you want to convert?

@@RestOModDaisy I bought it thinking it was a bb gun. looking down the barrel I see the abutment washer has no hole in it.Let's get my model 111 done first. I could send it to you if you would like to look at it. The gun is riveted not bolted,.

@@user-he6nj1zv9f Never a bad idea as the shop load right now is about at max. I'll still check the one I have to see if it's threaded or if a threaded abutment can be installed. The toy guns were normally assembled with rivets on the lever and a couple of other spots but it's something that can be solved with a drill press. On the Model 111 I've got some ballistic info I'll send tomorrow as the mechanical work is done and the fire blued Model 111 receiver in this video is yours. Stock work next!