No way could a Jock Ewing ever have a wife other than Ellie. He’s intimidating and powerful. JR scares a whole state with one phone call...doesn’t even try to talk back to Jock. Bobby stands up to Jock, but even he knows when to quit. Ellie isn’t afraid of him, and a man like that HAS to have a woman like that, or their egos will run rampant
I wish I knew as a kid just how lucky we were to have Barbara Bel Geddes on our screen every Friday night. There was nothing more powerful than throwing Bel Geddes and Larry Hagman against one another in a scene. Beautiful writing for this scene.
One of the things I miss most about my mother is when she told me off like this. There is something incredlbly purifying about being told the truth by a person who loves you unconditionally.
JR was a real bastard but Larry Hagman played the part so well that he also gave him a human quality that could make the viewer feel empathy for him from time to time. That's why the fans loved to hate JR.
That's what made him such a memorable character. Also if Dallas had one thing in common with UK Soaps is that there's always a Scene with Liquor. Either at Home, or the Neighborhood Pub whether it's on Eastenders, Coronation Street or Emmerdale. I call this The "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof Salute". Remember when Big Momma said to Maggie "When A Marriage Is On The Rocks, The Rocks Are There Right There!" Miss Ellie bought it into this Scene and as you know she Played Maggie on Broadway in one of the earlier productions back in the day.
When Larry Hagman played the lovable, bumbling, fumbling Major Nelson on "I dream of Jeannie" people didn't watch the show because of him, they watched it for Barbara Eden. (In my opinion) her and Donna Douglas (Ellie May Clampett) were 2 of the most beautiful women in the world. Having said that when Larry Hagman became JR Ewing his popularity with the females literally went through the ROOF. I heard a female make the comment that the reason he was so popular among the women was because even though he was a PRICK, and ruthless he was very powerful. Women are attracted to that kind of personality, not so much the placid, easygoing types. They love the POWER, and the materialism. That is why so many are willing to put up with the Machiavellian personality traits, and the cheating, and knowing that they have their eye's on other females.
Jock knew how wicked JR was but Miss Ellie was the only one who called him on it. In The Old School Books after JR Bankrupted their Associates, Bobby told him how much trouble he was in and JR said "I don't need you to protect me Bobby" but Jock had a premonition that something bad was going to happen and he got shot.
Thank you for posting this! Barbara Bel Geddes- she had a matronly way, but a real power about her, and was a force of nature. She could stand on her own, and I for one wouldn't want to be on her bad side, any more than JR's!!
Missy Ellie is a prime example of a parent judging her son for being exactly the type of person his father and she raised him to be someone without morals who doesn’t feel guilt.
Listen to the scene carefully. She let JR go to be raised solely by Jock, and he turned JR into a ruthless robber baron with no soul. That’s why he is an even more ruthless version of Jock. The opposite was true of Gary. Jock had almost nothing to do with his upbringing, and he turned out to be weaker than dishwater because of it. Bobby had attention from both, so he turned out to be a balanced person who can reign in JR. That’s the underlying theme of the entire show while Jock is alive.
It's interesting how people who grew up like this can turn out different, like Bobby and JR. My dad is like Bobby even though he is the oldest son. He always put family before money, thank God
JR's hypocrisy knew no bounds. Whether as you said in interfering in his brother's marriages or calling Sue Ellen a slut while he himself starts sleeping with other women and out right neglecting her.
@@dereklangley8582 It was like a modern Bonanza just with booze & coffee in every scene. Bobby was little Joe, Ray was Haus & J.R. like the oldest brother. Jock was Mr. Cartwright. Those early episodes, they drank hard liquor in every scene.
very good scene btw miss.ellie n jr....solid writing,directing n delivery....dallas was great back it its early years...just was not the same after jim davis (jock) died....just seem to go left from there n the casting was lighting in a bottle.....miss.ellie n Jr actually favor each other as did jock n bobby......
Ellie was RIGHT. They have similarity in terms of business but Jock was different to JR in terms of Family. Jock was a much better man than JR. Jock was much more loving and respectful to his wife.
Thank you very much, Ome, for uploading this interesting video so that we can see it again sometime soon. Please have a nice day today. ™ August 27, 2023 @ 3:05 am ™
Jock reminds me of my Grandad, successful business man, filled a room with his presence and his word was final, but to us grandchildren he was just grandad who always was there to support us
No doubt about it, JR was a crappy husband to Sue Ellen and not just the adultery. I remember that first episode where Sue Ellen tells Ellie how Jock was constantly in her face as to why she was no pregnant yet and Ellie says she would speak to him. It should have been JR, Sue Ellen's husband. who should have been the one to tell Jock to back off.
here is a fun fact I found out about a year and a half ago. lorimar originally wanted john wayne to play jock but he was fighting cancer at the time and recommended his good friend jim davis who was homeless at the time and living in his car the same car jock drove on dallas.
It happens alot. For example on Orange Is The New Black, The Actress who plays Daya is only Six Years "Younger" than The Actress that played her Mother. On The Bold & The Beautiful John McCook who plays Eric Forrester was only Seven Years Older than Ronn Moss (Ridge Forrester #1), and on The Cosby Show Sabrina Lebeuf (Sondra) is only Ten Years Younger than Phylicia Rashad (Clair).
Jock never "Loved" His Sons equally. He "Loved" JR for bringing in Business Deals, He "Loved" Bobby because he was the youngest. He "Cared" but had no use for Gary because he was such a weakling, and he "Loved" Ray because he did a great job in handling Southfork.
Hagman looked pretty good in the first 9 seasons. But then his drinking made him age terribly. Funny how Barbara was born in 1922 and Hagman was born in 1931. But you really could not tell by watching Dallas.
Saxon C Yes, and I believe Barbara Bel Geddes actually won an Emmy for her role. Actually, Hagman got nominated a couple of times for J.R., but never won, which is a shame.
Also what the Family didn't realize is that for her Alcohol is a "Coping" mechanism. She was such a fragile woman that JR made her think that everything that was wrong in her life was "Her" fault. No matter how horrible he was to her, she always stayed because she felt without him, she was nothing. Remember in Winds Of Vengeance after the Cowboys left, JR looked at Sue Ellen who shot him daggers of anger. In that scene you saw how narcisstic he was.
@@rolltide9547The money and the prestige of being a Ewing. That was just as important to her. Without that name, she felt insignificant and unimportant.
@@chandlerwhite8302Yes. In Hollywood, it's alot like that with Women or even these Real Life Housewives.. Also The Swans that Truman Capote backstabbed, measured their self worth by their Husbands and the like.
Miss Ellie also knows that she is responsible for JR and the way he is. So long as he works closely with his Daddy and makes Ewing Oil & The Family the most important and powerful that's all that counts. Also Jock never allowed JR to "relax". He and Sue Ellen never did a Vacation or had any "Private Time" to themselves.
One of my favorite episodes, the birth of John Ross. Sue Ellen drank because of JR's philandering and his callowness. Loved when Miss Ellie read the riot act on JR for his wicked ways, and not being there for Sue Ellen during their marriage, but at the same time regretting that she didn't intervene when JR was growing up, that was why she had a say in raising Gary and Bobby. It's understandable why John Ross became the way he was in the reboot, seeing his parents fighting and using him as a pawn over the years, not seeing how it affected him and his decision to revive Ewing Oil (Energies).
J.R. never received the nurturing he needed at a young age. That’s bad parenting. That’s not his fault. Jock created and raised an aggressive, ruthless, unemotional alpha male. It’s like he had no mother or feminine qualities.
Dallas is alsp one of my favorite tv shows and I have the whole box set series but I no longer have a dvd machine because it is olf and broke down on me and I will ecentually buy a 20 inch portable dvd player to watch them in my room with my earphones
God Miss Ellie really realizes now that "giving JR To Jock" as a littl eboy was a very bad thing. As for his love for his Sons, he loved them all but never equally. Bobby was the apple of his eye, Gary reminded him too much of Garrison and Aaron Southworth, who ran or died and JR was the "Heir Apparent" to the Ewing Throne and as the "Eldest" he was supposed to be a proper example to his Brothers. Jock taught to win at all costs and when he did do "things" Jock would get upset because it was wrong, but it was a bundle of contradictions. The Ewings talked but never effectively communicated.
No wonder Sue Ellen was a drunk the family was always drinking. Stop by the office and sign a deal, lets have a drink. Before dinner, lets have a drink. All they ever did on that show was drink booze.
Yes, on UK Soaps most notably Coronation Street, Eastenders, & Emmerdale the bulk of the Action takes place at a Bar. The Rovers Return, The Queen Victoria aka The Vic, and The Woolpack. They could have mixed Non Alcoholic like Cranberry & Seven Ups, Shirley Temples, or Cream Soda.
Miss Ellie always had a way to speak to JR Ewing this particular way and to teach him some additional values. Please post only positive comments over here. ™ August 27, 2023 @ 3:00 am ™
haha....maybe Miss Ellie should consider the ramifications of having a drink cart in every room of the house, including out by the pool. Then people wonder why someone has a drinking problem?
They should have had some more happy scenes between JR and Sue Ellen. They would have provided contrast and made the bad times more tragic than predictable.
I also feel that JR felt that Jock, Miss Ellie and Bobby had no place to tell him how to run his personal life. Deep down he only married Sue Ellen because Jock put so much pressure to marry the "Right" woman after the debacle with Valene.
These episodes were the best with Jim Davis as Jock and Barbara Bel Geddes as Miss Ellie more than once Miss Ellie had it out with JR over Sue Ellen and I don’t blame her for doing it.
Jock's approval meant the most to J.R. than anything. If Jock had the same one on one with J.R., it would've made a lot more of a difference. At least he'd have been home w/ Sue Ellen more and more discreet about seeing other women.
what kind of mother lets go of her child at 5 yr old....for whatever reasons...that is just ridiculous....not guiding him or reprimanding him when he acts up...what did she expect...now its a bit too late woman..he is a grown man.
They were a fun, cool family. They had a lot of love for each other and passion. Even if they weren’t oil tycoons they would still be kind of interesting.
Ares99999 You could tell in his face it hurt more than he would let on. Despite all the dirty deeds he just wanted to make his parents proud of him and nothing he did could do that. He was a pretty despicable human being, but to say he has no redeeming qualities was cruel and wrong.
crassyfrake The problem I had with that is that some of the other characters weren't much better than JR, only they were less overt about it. Bobby, honestly, often let his fists do the talking a bit too easily. Jock was often an ass, Pam could be one hell of a bitch when she wanted to. Even Ellie, like in this scene, could be really cruel. But while JR gets called out on every single thing he did - and some he didn't - the other members of the family are rarely called out for their own behaviour. In a sense, its very unfair treatment. And honestly, JR worshipped his parents. If he turned out that way, its because Jock and Ellie let him turn out that way.
Ares99999 " Your father has redeeming qualities." Umm ... not really. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Yes JR is pure evil. So was Jock. Miss Ellie has her evil moments.
Mrs. Ellie a powerful wife of jock ally with him love of family and friends so perceptine of j.rs motivations j.r like your father you are power wise yet he had redeeming qualities
