He was "The Actor". He worked with the best of his generation. He had a presence and an amazing charisma. I loved when he was squinting because of the sun then he expressed hardly to someone. He was the boss !
@@Mattea68 I think that in a majority, we agree with you, Darren. Besides, a lot of viewers around the world were embarrassed with this change of actress for the Miss Ellie's character, at the time.
Jim Davis left his mark during the first three years he was on "Dallas". No one can deny that. Strong willed, smart, protective, stubborn and proud, Jock Ewing was THE patriarch of the show. His death left a void that was never completely filled. To his credit, Howard Keel was a solid choice to step into the show as the older male figure to anchor the series. Clayton Farlow was similar to Jock in a number of ways but was more even tempered and measured when dealing with others. It's easy to see why Miss Ellie was drawn to him. Both her husbands were hard working, successful men who commanded the respect of those around them.
@@gregwatson8219 - Ben Cartwright was a widowed man (three times over) during the run of "Bonanza". He remained single throughout the shows fourteen years on the air. So to compare him to either Jock Ewing or Clayton Farrow is odd. I'm talking about Miss Ellie and what qualities she sought in a husband. Both the men she married were successful, strong, smart men who commanded the respect of those around them. In this regard all three men have similar attributes. But that's where it pretty much ends....
I heard stories that the portrait was haunted. On the set, the portrait would sometimes move of its own accord. Someone would straighten the portrait, only for it to move slightly when there was no one in the room.
stig tuneback I agree that's also why the producers cut Donna Reed's contract to return because Larry Hagman wanted her gone. He was actually trying to get his real life mother to be a recast of Miss Ellie but that never happened. Also Barbara missed the show so she came back after this season.
I always thought that portrait was one of the best portraits I have ever seen, of anyone. Actually it is much nicer and more artistic than some of the official presidential portraits hanging in the White House.
the portrait of jock was HUGELY superb done , and it filled its place in that home , jim davis was perfect for the role of jock ewing , may those who passed from the serie rest in peace .
I personally saw the portrait of Jock Ewing, and the magnificent silver Lincoln Continental with blue interior which was used for his television character, at Southfork Ranch in 2010, which allows tours. The portrait of Jock (John Ross Sr.) appears even more majestic when viewed in person.
@@sanjayarman Oh man I LOVED Jock's Continental Mark V. There is a montage video here on RU-vid of clips from the show of him driving it and getting in and out of it.
In real-life, Larry Hagman had the portrait of his TV father (played by Jim Davis), until it was sold, back in 2011, the year before Hagman's own passing. May both Jim Davis & Larry Hagman, R.I.P., along with Donna Reed & Howard Keel.
My grandfather had an oil painting of my grandmother after she died, and some bimbo he dated tried to make it disappear. My mother got it before that could happen. Now that my mother is gone, I have that painting. My grandmother has watched out for me all these years. I believe it.
Mystic Investigations Miss Ellie wouldn’t live anywhere but Southfork. The sensible thing to do, but obviously less dramatic, would have been to build a house on Southfork just for Clayton and Miss Ellie.
nrkgalt or he could’ve kept Southern Cross and he and Miss Ellie could’ve divided their time at each other’s ranch. Miss Ellie used to get on my nerves with always wanting everything to go her way....hardly ever giving someone else what they wanted for a change.
Quite true, Mark. Larry Hagman campaigned for his real-life mother, Mary Martin, to replace Barbara Bel Geddes, so you can imagine how fun he was to be around during that time. The good news for Ms. Reed was that she successfully sued the production company to honor her contract after she was fired.
Cool seeing Donna Reed in 1980s after seeing her in legendary films like it's a wonderful life and from here to eternity where she will be remembered forever. I never watched Dallas but Larry Harman played a good sleazebag in clips I have seen.
Donna Reed does a beautiful job here with her acting. I can see Barbara Bel Geddes doing the exact same thing. I loved Barbara and Donna as Miss Ellie equally.
@@docd2496 It's disturbing to know I typed that even after that end-tribute to Jim, was burned in my head 40yrs ago. What's more disturbing is, it took over 4yrs for someone to notice. 😂👍
As a medical expert, I will say this; Grieving is different for everyone. This scene is a great example of all the emotions one can experience after losing someone whether it's six months, a year, or even a terrible Miss Ellie recast.
@@leeknievel748 The sad truth. Donna Reed was an Oscar winner and was in some of the greatest films ever made. But yup, Dallas didn't do her career any flavours.
@theprinceoftides6836 You're quite wrong. Dallas did Donna's career a huge flavour. Vanilla flavour, topped with chocolate chips and marshmallows. She was sweet as a candy, and Dallas fans loved her.
it's funny how Bobby says Jock's painting has to come down because it's the right thing to do, but in the movie J.R. Returns where J.R. says something about the painting being back, Bobby says Right where it belongs, It never should have come down.
That was obviously different writers that wrote Bobby wrong. He would never have said that. He liked Clayton and respected that he was a member of the family.
Agree, she was wrong as Miss Ellie, but she would have been great as Sue Ellen's mother. Looking at her in this clip, she actually looks a bit (to me) like an older version of Linda Gray.
I’m sorry guys...but I LOVED Donna Reed as Miss Ellie. She was just a better match for the show than Barbara. I never liked Barbara as Miss Ellie. She just never fit the part. She dressed like an old lady and her wardrobe alone ruined it for me. But Donna KILLED it when it came to that wardrobe compared to Barbara. Donna LOOKED like a Ewing. She LOOKED like she belonged, with the clothing and jewelry she wore. And when someone can LOOK the part, then the rest can usually fall into place a little better. I’m not saying she’s a better actress than Barbara. I’m just saying appearance-wise, she looked more believable.
Except Miss Ellie wasn't supposed to "look like a Ewing". She wasn't a Ewing. She was a Southworth, a farm girl who grew up on a ranch during the Depression riding horses and castrating steers. Donna Reed doesn't look as though she's ever touched a horse or a cow in her whole life. She just paraded around in fancy clothes as though her dad was the president of the bank instead of a farmer.
Jock Ewing was a better business man but clayton fawlow was a great man in his own way, did you see him almost killed a man with his powerful punching moves
Larry Hagman cleverly orchestrated this mini-storyline with the intent of further eroding Donna Reed’s standing among Dallas viewers. He was not a supporter of Ms. Reed fulfilling the role of Ms. Ellie, and he was laying the groundwork for the return of Barbara Bel Geddes. Mr. Hagman shared certain tactical qualities with the legendary character he created and so brilliantly portrayed.
One Mistake in the Script , where JR says "Daddy built this House", the way the story goes , you would have to watch the movie on You Tube called Dallas the early years about Old Jock and Digger and Miss Ellie's history. The South Fork Ranch was owned and Operated by Ellie's Father Aaron South Worth. Ellie was Diggers girl. Jock and Digger met out Wild catting and Digger brought Jock home to Dallas with him and introduced Jock to Ellie, she fell in love with Jock. So the Feud Began.
When Garrison Southworth Ellie's brother revealed he was alive but had come home to die in Season 2. He sent Ellie a portrait he painted before arriving only Ellie and Jock knew what the portrait was of and it was the house at Southfork. Why did they only recognize the family home? Because the Southworth house was a smaller building. When Jock married Ellie he saved the ranch from foreclosure and built the current larger house where the original home stood and that was the house the family he and Ellie built lived in so yes Jock built that house.
@dawnyzaguirre8851 Hello......Yes it's true that Miss Ellie inherited Southfork from her father, but it was widely known that Miss Ellie's father had almost lossed Southfork during the Depression of the 1930s..... Then Jock came along with his enormous financial wealth and he saved Southfork from getting auctioned off. Since Jock's hard-earned money saved the ranch, to a major extent that alone caused him to become the new owner of Southfork. That was Jock's hard-earned money that maintained & kept Southfork upgraded, and he raised his family at Southfork throughout the 45 years he lived there. So yes indeed.....Southfork Ranch was Jock Ewing's home!
All I can think of is Designing Women when Julia's new boyfriend told her "keep all of the pictures up you need, I don't think I would want to be with a woman who stopped loving her husband just because he died". JR was right, the picture should have stayed, Clayton should have demanded it.
Donna Reed was a solid Miss Ellie Ewing Farlow. Although she is not better than the original, she still did a great job. She did not try to act like Barbara, she did the role the way she felt like it was supposed to be played.
When jock Ewing was killed off the whole Dallas show was affected. I personally wasn't watching the series as much as I used to. Jock Ewing was an incredible character in this show. A No nonsense man''s man. And Jim Davis was the perfect person to play that role. ❤
Miss Ellie should have said "I wasn't your Father's First Wife, remember that, I had to live with Jock's History with Amanda, and Clayton lives with Jock's Memory, Clayton knows he'll never take Jock's place but he did make Miss Ellie happy in his own way
laminage miss Ellie never had to live with Amanda’s memory because it was over 40 years before she learned about the very brief Union between Jock and Amanda..
Clayton was a rancher at heart. So was Ellie. They had that in common. Jock was an oilman she married to save her father's ranch. He learned to appreciate the ranch and gained his father-in-law's trust eventually. Miss Ellie grew to love him as well.
Donna is a trouble maker,,she has caused so many problems always TRYING TO cause trouble,,,like when she tells ellie out of the blue that jocks painting needed to come down that it upsets clayton,,well to dam bad
The show was never quite the same after Jim Davis died. The Jock character grounded the show. After Jim Davis and the Jock character died, the show became more and more outlandish and over the top.
In many ways, Howard Keel and Jim Davis reminded me, of fraternal twin brothers. I say that, because Clayton reminded me of Jock. I loved it, he and Miss Ellie got married. Yet, I thought it was right, to move Jock's portrait, to Ewing Oil offices. Comparing Jock, to Clayton and vice versa, wasn't fair to either man. Jock was gone and Clayton rightly married Miss Ellie, because they loved each other. Fraternal twin likeness or not, Clayton was his own man.
Bobby’s always willing to give away and give in! JR is the only son that kept Jock Ewing’s memory alive and relevant. In later years when Miss Ellie gives half of Southfork Clayton, Bobby didn’t fight against that decision the way JR did. JR reminded His Mother, who saved the ranch from the sheriff foreclosing. Never understood why the writers always made us think that Bobby was Jock’s favorite. JR was the only one that built Ewing Oil into more of a power after Jock retired. JR once told Sue Ellen that everything that he does, he does for his Daddy and that basically to JR, Ewing oil was his Daddy’s legacy.
@@glorymosbyfloyd3878 Dallas wouldn't be Dallas by moving the Ewings to San Angelo. Furthermore, the show needed the longstanding matriarch of Southfork. Southfork was originally a Southworth ranch and Miss Ellie's birthright. Jock's memory should always live on at Ewing Oil.
The big screw-up here was that they signed her to a three-year contract. If she had been in it for one year, then so much for that, and so on. But to sign her for three years, and then cast her off, was incorrigible, even by Hollywood standards.
And he had tears in his eyes when he, Bobby, and Ray came back from South America to tell Miss Ellie that Jock didn’t make it. He went outside and looked up to the sky with tears in his eyes.
Donna Reed was pretty bland as Miss Ellie at first but she improved with each appearance. Had she had time to grow in the role and make it her own I think the fans would have eventually embraced her version.
Aaron Southworth owned the land that is South Fork Ranch and Jock saved it from foreclosure. Jock actually built the current house on the land. Damn I miss this show!
Jim Davis and Donna Reed definitely knew each other Jim Davis guest starred on The Donna Reed show in 1962. He played an old buddy of Donna's husband Donna's character didn't care for Jim Davis' character very much as he was a bit of a male chauvinist. Jim Davis guest starred on The Lucy Show he played a casino owner when Lucy ( Lucille Ball) and Vivian Vance visited Las Vegas.
Donna Reed got such a bum rap on Dallas, First, it was NOT her choice to drop Barbara Bel Geddes from the role, Lorimar made that choice. Donna did take the role in a new direction and if Barbara had not come back Donna probably would have remained until her own death a short time later. Then they should have just written Mama off the show and concentrated on the younger members of the family. Donna had such grace and was such a wonderful person in real life, Hagman was such a nasty drunk in real life he made life hell for everyone on that set. Donna didn't deserve that treatment after all of the quality entertainment she gave to this country during her lifetime.
Larry did like his alcohol, but life wasn’t hell on that set. If you’ve seen the outtakes and interviews with the cast, they had a blast and loved and respected each other. Donna did her best, but Barbara saw the show through its glory years and was the matriarch on and off the set. Donna was really set up to fail from day one.
I definitely agreed with JR about not understanding why a man would want to live in another man's house Clayton Farlow should've took Miss Ellie to live on his ranch instead
@@glorymosbyfloyd3878 The Southern Cross would've been too big for both Clayton and Miss Ellie alone. Even with Dusty who was always out on the rodeo circuit and recently divorced from his new wife. The Ewings were a big family and no way were the Ewings going to vacate Southfork.
Everyone here is agreeing with JR...because they like the Jock Ewing CHARACTER. But in real life, they wouldn't want to live in a hostile environment with all that tension.
I remember watching this episode as a kid. Miss Ellie and Bobby were right. However, it would have been better if Miss Ellie (Barbara Bel Geddes) would have been the one to take Jocks portrait down. This was a great and emotional scene. I do have empathy for JR here but, we do have to move on with life at some point.
When asked which Ms Ellie he prefered ,Howard snapped "I,II work with whoever walks through that door boy" before calming down & said he liked them both.
It was the right thing to do. Jock was gone and it was time to let life move on. She was remarried and was very happy with Clayton. It didn't matter how JR felt.
Southfork was more than just the ranch. It was land. Miss Ellie should have built a second ranch on the land. Called it farlow ranch .. that way Clayton had his own home and Ellie had 2 ranch's on southfork
J.R., buddy... You reject Wes Parmalee as your father, after Jock disappeared. ... Wes Parmalle passed every test to confirm he was Jock. ... And yet you don't even notice your mother looks completely different. ... What is your problem!
